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as restitution, not hush money, to sort of pay for the senator's sins. >> that's amazing. listen, we're going to stay on top of this. thanks so much for joining us and brings us the very latest on it. wolf blitzer in washington. rick, thank you. happening now, renewed allegations that the cia lied to congress. democrats reignite a firestorm over top secret briefings and accusations of torture. republicans follow a bizarre attempt to protect the house speaker. also this hour, will michael jackson ever return to neverland? this hour, new inquiries about burying the pop star on the grounds of his dream home. anti-government protesters in iran make a powerful comeback. new clashes and defiance as authorities vow to crush this unrest just as they did last month. i'm wolf blitzer in cnn's command center. for breaking news, pop tilitics extraordinary reports from around the world, you're in the
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situation room. top lessons today for president obama. the limits of his international star power. he made a big push over at the g-8 summit in italy for an agreement on reducing global warming and he got pushed right back by countries that don't have the will or the wallet to worry about pollution. especially in the midst of a global recession. our white house correspondent suzanne malveaux was traveling with the president. >> reporter: among world leaders here at the g-8 economic summit in italy, president obama is the rookie, but also the star. playful applause for mr. obama who showed up late for the class photo. the president's newby status didn't stop him from acting like the class president. arranging this photo op. but the gathered leaders did not move far from their entrenched positions. >> we've made a good start. but i'm the first one to
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acknowledge that progress on this issue will not be easy. >> reporter: after chairing a forum on climate change, a dose of reality. >> it is no small task for 17 leaders to bridge their differences on an issue like climate change. >> reporter: the world leaders watered down the group statement committed to tackling global warming. just the day before the u.s. and other g-8 leaders signed on to the goal of cutting greenhouse gas emissions by 80% by 2050. but today joined by leaders from rapidly developing countries, who are also big polluters like china, india and brazil they had to scrap the commitment. instead adding language that said they'd figure it out later at another summit in december. poorer nations believe the burden of cutting greenhouse gas emissions will unfairly fall on them. >> i think that india and china won't come on board and help us solve global warming unless they see that the people responsible for most of the pollution, the u.s., which has emitted 30% of the world's pollution in the atmosphere today, are actually taking a leadership role in
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getting serious about the problem. >> reporter: president obama says he gets it. >> we have the much larger carbon footprint per capita. and i know that in the past, the united states has sometimes fallen short of meeting our responsibility. so let me be clear, those days are over. >> reporter: the president points to his administration's efforts to promoete fuel efficiency as well as clean energy to try to get the climate bill through congress. all of these points he's going to be making again when he meets with these world leaders the next go-round in september in pittsburgh. >> traveling with the president in italy for us, thank you. whatever successes or setbacks he may face, president obama is big. literally. in italy, check this out. mr. obama's face edged in a field in northern italy. covering about 88 square feet. he calls it a show of respect for the land as well as for the
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american president. the obama administration is looking ahead to a decision that could possibly make or break america's economic recovery. will the federal reserve chairman, ben bernanke, be reappointed when his term expires in january? the bush administration holdover has gotten mixed reviews for his handling of the federal bailout of the financial system. today cnn's fareed zakaria asked the treasury secretary timothy geithner about ben bernanke's future. >> you have any ideas? >> we have an excellent fed chairman now. this is important to underscore. i think what the fed did in this crisis, which was without precedent, subject to enormous controversy, important for people to look back over time and, you know, evaluate this. but what he did this period was salutely essential and helped stave off a much more catastrophic outcome. i think what the fed did was not just essential but extraordinarily helpful this
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helping contain this -- reduce the risk of a more catastrophic -- >> that sounds like a vote for the reappointment of ben bernanke? >> again, i say i think the chairman has done an exceptional job. i think he deserves a lot of confidence. >> pretty strong hint from timothy geithner. you can see the entire interview with fareed zakaria on fare"far zakaria gps" right here on cnn. now to an explosive allegation being leveled once again at the cia. some top democrats now accusing the spy agency of misleading or outright lying to congress. and they say the cia chief leon panetta has admitted it. some republicans say this is the purely political case of democrats trying to protect one of their leaders. let's go to our congressional correspondent, brianna keilar. she's up on capitol hill. this is causing quite a stir up there. >> reporter: sure is, wolf. the house is set to take up a big intelligence agency bill. since this is an opportunity for
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republicans to again attack house speaker nancy pelosi for comments she's made about the ci airks, democrats are launching a preempive strike. to hear democrats tell it, the cia has been keeping congress in the dark for the last eight years. what does this mean? >> it means that something very serious broke down. >> reporter: anna eshoo and six other democrats say leon panetta himself revealed the cia mislead members of congress. in a letter to panetta they say recently you testified you have determined top cia officials have concealed significant actions from all members of congress. and misled members for a number of years. >> he informed us that there was an operation that was in place from 2001 until the tday before he came to notify us.
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>> reporter: the top republican down played it. >> i heard about a concept and a plan and some preparation on a program. a program that was never implemented. so basically we were briefed on a program that never happened. >> reporter: democrats and republicans wouldn't give specifics, because they say the information is classified. the partisan sniping reignites another controversy. nancy pelosi's accusation that the cia essentially lied to her in a 2002 briefing about so-called harsh interrogation tactics such as waterboarding used on terror suspects. after facing weeks of scathing criticism from republicans, pelosi was less than eager to reopen the debate. >> the intelligence committee has the oversight responsibility for intelligence in the house and the equivalent committee in the senate. i'm sure they will be pursuing this in their regular committee
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process and that's the way it will go. >> reporter: house republican leader john boehner said the new information does not vindicate pelosi. >> i do not believe that the cia lied to congress. i'm still waiting for speaker pelosi to either put up the facts or retract her statement and apologize. >> reporter: now, the truth is since we're dealing with a classified briefing here, wolf, it's really hard to make heads or tails of this. not only are you not getting specifics from folks up here on the hill, but the cia doesn't comment on classified briefings, saying only it's not the practice or policy of the agency to mislead congress. >> despite all that classification, you and i know, i suspect in the next few days much of that information will be leaked to the news media. we'll, of course, report it. thanks very much. let's go to jack cafferty. he's got cafferty file. >> it is perhaps the center piece of president obama's agenda for his first term in office. reform the nation's health care system before it bankrupts the country. it also comes with a hefty and
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as yet undetermined price tag which has been estimated as high as $1 trillion. with all the negotiating over who should be taxed and what provisions will stay or go, the plan to provide better health care for all americans is also adding up to billions and billions of dollars in something that's being called health infrastructure. this includes things like walking paths, street lights, jungle gyms, even farmers' markets. some suggest the better name for all of this would be pork. advocates including massachusetts senator edward kennedy say all this stuff's needed to promote healthier lifestyles and cut medical spending down the road with lower obesity rates, less heart disease and other health problems. critics including wyoming senator mike kenzi say it's pork. these are public works projects dressed up and disgised to be stuffed into the health care bill. the way it stands local and state governments would have to submit proposals for these bike
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paths and stuff to the secretary of health and human services, kathleen sebelius. and she would be the final say on who gets what. suppose there would be the potential for any sort of a bottleneck there? it's far from a done deal. with an eye toward next year's mid-term elections, it is never too late, or early i should say, for the folks in congress to think about keeping their constituents back home happy. so get ready to build those bike paths. here's the question. should health care legislation contain billions of dollars for parks, walking paths and farmers' markets? go to cnn.com/caffertyfile. and post a comment on my blog. what do you think, wolf? >> i like bike paths, walking paths, farmers' markets. they're all lovely things. >> do they belong in the health care bill? >> i'm not so sure about that. they belong somewhere. >> i agree. duck du duck. ducks are good. two days after michael jackson's memorial, there's
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mystery surrounding his final resting place. we have new information coming into the situation room. also, why your social security number isn't very secure. researchers say they've cracked the code that could make identity theft even more common. in your strategy session, is sarah palin a renegade or just another politician who won't give up the spotlight? . or just one brita faucet filter. - ( plinks ) - brita-- better water. less waste.
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michael jackson are wondering where the king of pop will finally rest in peace. we all saw his rose covered casket at the memorial on tuesday. but his burial site remains a mystery. a lot of speculation centers around michael jackson's former home, neverland. let's go out to california, cnn's ted rowlands is taking a closer look at this story for us. what are you findi ining out, t? >> reporter: the family continues to be very see kretive about where the body is now and their burial plans. we have learned someone from the family has contacted the state of california about possibly burying michael jackson at neverland ranch. according to the state, an attorney for the jackson family has inquired about burying michael jackson at neverland ranch. something jermaine jackson told cnn's larry king last week he'd like to see happen. >> i would love to see him here. >> do you have a place for him here? >> yes. there's a special place right
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over near the train station, right over there. >> reporter: the bury someone on private land in california, there are two steps. first you need what's called a certificate of authority from a state cemetery and funeral bureau. that's no big deal. fill out this two page application and shell out $400. the other thing you need is approval from the county which in this case is santa barbara. at this point nobody from the jackson family has contacted the county. if someone does, they say it's possible they'll give the okay. >> we have had no formal application either from the jackson family or from the property owner. and at that point in time, we would review the application and make a determination. >> reporter: what's unclear is if everyone in the family wants neverland to be jackson's final resting place. joe jackson seemed to shoot it down when asked about it in the days after jackson's death. >> that's not true. that's not true. >> reporter: the bottom line, in
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terms of the state of california they say it's really no problem if the family wants to pursue this. the only hurdle could be santa barbara county. it just doesn't happen very often. that's the key. the county says if they get a proposal, they'll look at it. the last person to be buried on private land, according to the state, is ronald reagan. >> we'll see if it's done. thanks, ted, very much. the final official word on why michael jackson died may still be a few weeks away. no matter what the outcome, though, michael jackson's death has certainly highlighted deep concerns about prescription drug use and abuse. and joining us now, president obama's drug czar. he's got an important job. it's being underlined right now by the abuse of prescription drugs. the michael jackson death certainly has brought that to
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all of our attention. how big of a problem is this? >> it's very significant across this country. young people are starting more into drug problems through their parents' medicine cabinet than anywhere else. the death rate from drug overdoses or drug induced death is very high. >> how high? >> in fact, it's greater than gunshot wounds. >> how many people a year die in -- >> literally thousands. one of the problems, of course, is the ability of the united states government to collect the data. so we've been looking at 2006 deaths. it's greater, in the 30,000 range, than gunshot wounds. >> we look at celebrities like michael jackson, anna nicole smith, heath ledger. drug abuse. the allegations of addiction. it's going on in part because doctors are not doing what they're supposed to do. >> there are a number of parts. one is that there are doctors that abuse the law and abuse their patients. there are patients that doctor shop. there are drugs that are taken out of extended care facilities
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or parents' medicine cabinets. there's a whole host of these problems. >> how do you punish these doctors who just give prescriptions for really serious drugs they shouldn't be giving? >> the drug enforcement administration does a very good job on that. when i was police chief in seattle we had several cases that we worked with them. the one thing that really looks very bright for that is the prescription drug monitoring programs. 38 states have passed laws. 33 have operations. that gives the public health services and sometimes law enforcement the ability to find out about doctors that are, perhaps, overprescribing. and it also gives the opportunity to find out about patients who are going to multiple doctors. >> if you have money, you can get a prescription, basically. you'll find a doctor who's willing to write a prescription basically for almost anything. >> i wouldn't go that far. i hope the vast majority of physicians, i mean, clearly take care of their patients.
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>> but there are doctors who abuse the system. >> there are. but there are a lot of other ways these drugs, these powerful painkillers, these prescriptions, are getting out and in the hands of young people. >> tell us what you're doing. you're the drug czar. you're in charge of the federal government's program. how do you stop it? >> we're advocates of the prescription drug monitoring programs where the states are passing these laws and we're going to work very closely to make sure that they have the tools to put these into effect. the other is our media campaign. the campaign ran a number of ads both in february of '08 and also in april of '09 to educate parents about, look, be concerned about what's in your medicine cabinet. talk to your kids. >> should parents put a lock on their medicine cabinet? >> you know, there are parents that do put a lock. in fact, i've talked to people that actually before they hold a party, they actually clean out prescription drugs and put them in a different place in their house. these are adults. because, remember, these aren't
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just affecting young people. it can affect all ages. this prescription drug problem doesn't know boundaries of race or ethnicity or economic class. >> is there enough federal regulation of this -- the small prescription drug industry? >> there are a couple things going on. one is there are several pieces of pending legislation about how do you get rid of a drug? one, we don't want people flushing drugs back down the toilet. the epa and others are concerned about that. >> what's the concern? >> the pollution and infection of the chemicals into the water system is very serious. >> if you have drugs in your medicine cabinet that you don't need anymore, what do you do with them? >> there are a couple things that can be done. one is that they can be conceal and not left where they're entirely visible. the other is that a lot of law enforcement agencies are actually holding kind of -- they're authorized to receive these drugs. they're holding local collections and picking them up. when some new legislation is passed by congress, i think
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we'll see some easier ways to do that. >> knowing what we know about the michael jackson death, and you studied all of this, watched it over these past couple weeks, is there anything that jumps out in your mind, what we should be doing, a lesson learned from his tragic death? >> you know, the very sad and untimely loss of michael jackson is a wake-up call to the country about prescription drugs. but i would not be in a position to really comment about any of the specifics. and i really don't know anything more than i have read about this. but if we can save lives and if we can bring to the attention of the people the dangers of prescription drug abuse, i think there is some benefit to this country. >> the director of the office of national drug control policy, better known as the drug czar, thanks very much. good luck. >> thank you. coming up in the next hour, we'll be speaking with brian monroe, more on the investigation into the death of michael jackson.
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a lot more on this story coming up. when we come back, iran. it's erupting once again with protests and more angry demonstrators in the streets. police battling their advances and chants of, quote, death to the dictator. we're getting brand-new video coming into "the situation room" from the streets of tehran. tales of sex, lies and money. the scandal hovering over senator john ensign of nevada takes an unexpected new twist. wait until you find out what the husband of his former mistress says about cash. enjoy one of life's little pleasures. yoplait has a sweetly satisfying taste and creamy texture that you can't resist. yoplait. in 25 delicious flavors. it is so good.
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debra feyerick is monitoring other important stories incoming into "the situation room." >> reporter: new protests erupting in iran. the first in post election crackdown almost two weeks ago. police fired tear gas on hundreds of support eres of the defeated opposition lead per p the protesters took to the streets chanting phrases like death to the dictator. today's protest coinsided with the tenth anniversary of an uprising in tehran where students challenged a regime. one student was killed in the uprising. a white firefighter whose claim of discrimination was rejected by supreme court
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nominee sonia sotomayor will be called by republicans to testify at her confirmation hearing next week. frank richie sued the city of new haven for scrapping the results of a promotion test because not enough minorities qualified. sotomayor was part of an appellate panel that rejected the white firefighter's claim. the supreme court reversed the ruling last week. this in ireland is drawing thousands of catholics to pray. historically religious pilgrimages are a key part of life in rural ireland. some thing the country's economic problems are causing many to lean on religion now. >> we'll get back to you. a new report on lax security at federal buildings raising fears of bombings or other attacks on government property. we'll speak about that and more with the homeland security secretary, janet napolitano. how the government is
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zblrjts you're in "the situation room." happening now, workers at an historic african-american cemetery are accused of digging up graves, throwing out the buried remains, reselling the cemetery spaces and pocketing the cash. we'll have a full report. new developments regarding a disgraced senator's adultery. the husband of republican senator john ensign and his former misstress. they're talking about cash payment. others are asking if there was some sort of cover-up. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." the health and human services secretary tells about 500 officials at a health summit here in washington, plans for the worst-case scenario
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regarding swine flu. the h1n1 virus. kathleen sebelius said the vaccine could be ready in october. but that's the virus that's never actually gone away. the fear is it will reappear with renewed strength in the united states come the flu season in the fall. let's talk about this and more with the homeland security secretary janet napolitano. madam secretary, thanks very much for coming in. >> thank you. >> it looks like it's pretty bitter in argentina, brazil, south america, below the equator right now. is that what we should be gearing up for come the flu season in the northern hemisphere? >> well, we have scientists monitoring what's going on in the southern hemisphere very carefully. also places like australia. to see if that gives us some clue as to what form of the virus we can expect to return to the united states in the fall. the scientists tell us there will be some form of mutation or change, but they can't tell us yet what kind of mutation or
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change. so today's summit was designed to really prepare and begin preparing for a worst-case scenario, even though we hope we don't see that. >> already about 40,000 people in the united states have been diagnosed with the h1n1. almost 100,000 worldwide. and those are the formally diagnosed cases. how concerned are you that it will mutate and become more dangerous, though, as the flu season here approaches? >> wolf, i don't know what numbers you're getting. but, actually, what the scientists tell us is they think about 1 million americans will have h1n1. and there is concern about mutation. we always think about what happened in 1917, '18, where the flu appeared in a new strain in the spring. it was relatively mild. came back in the fall with a vengeance. now, our models and what we're seeing is that we don't think that will happen or it's likely to happen. but what we do think is going to happen is there's going to be a
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return of h1n1 in some form. and we need to be ready. families need to be ready. schools need to be ready. communities need to be ready. businesses need to be ready. let's not get caught by surprise here. >> i was getting those numbers, by the way, from the centers for disease control and prevention. their website, today. a million americans already you're saying have been formally diagnosed or is that the fear of what could happen? >> no. that is -- those who have actually had some form of the flu. i think you're looking at those who've actually gone in and gotten reported. but there's a larger number out there, of course, that probably have had it and haven't reported it directly. why, because it's been a relatively mild, like a seasonal flu. at least in this first iterat n iteration. however, it has gone to the southern hemisphere as we predicted that it would. it's the flu season in the southern hemisphere. we're watching very carefully there to see what it looks like. and as secretary sebelius said at the summit today, plans are
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already being made for a vaccine. >> how confident are you that there will be a vaccine available by the time the flu season arrives here in october? >> well, the flu season may be a little bit in advance of the vaccine. because the vaccine at the earliest won't be available until mid-october. you know, school starts earlier than that. and this flu in particular strikes children, school-age children. so we really want to work with our schools, our school districts to make sure they have plans for what to do if a child arrives who has the flu. and a strategy for keeping a co school open but children at home. >> i want to switch gears and talk about this gao report that came out. apparently federal buildings all across the country are not well prepared to deal with terrorist attacks if you want to smuggle in materials for explosives in a building. what is the department of homeland security doing about this? >> i've ordered an immediate
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review. this is the federal protective service. it actually is a department within the department of homeland security. and the results of that gao report are unacceptable. and so we're grilling down and we're reviewing. and we're going to get to this problem. >> were you as stunned as i was when i read that gao report? >> it was an unpleasant surprise, particularly for someone like me who when i was a u.s. attorney helped participate in the oklahoma city bombing investigation, of course, which took hundreds of lives in oklahoma city. we're going to get to the bottom of this. we're going to fix it. >> i hope so. the secretary of homeland security, janet napolitano joining us from capitol hill. thank you. >> thank you very much. it's been two weeks since the washington metro rail collision killed nine people here in the nation's capital. now passengers are using cell phones and digital cameras to highlight other safety concerns. images that appear to show train operators texting or even dozing off at the controls. wow.
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let's bring in our internet reporter abby tatton. show us some of these videos that average citizens are relaying to us. >> passengers who are still shaken by that deadly june 22nd crash, these videos aren't helping. let me show you what's been posted on youtube. the first one is down in the zaalexandria area of virginia. recorded early june, posted on youtube with a caption that said he appears to be sleeping. he's actually holding a blackberry. then there was a second one that was posted last night. that first video, in fact, a metro rail spokeswoman said that that -- that operator was identified. and then later suspended without pay for five days. the next video that was posted also on youtube was given to washington station wttg by a teen who said this metro rail operator appeared to be sleeping. the metro rail spokeswoman saying i don't want to jump to any conclusion on that one.
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it's hard to tell what's happening there. but he doesn't appear to be paying attention. and they're following up on that one, too. >> i want to be precise. no one is suggesting the operator of that june 22nd train that had that collision was responsible? >> absolutely not. the preliminary investigation there showing that metro rail operator was not at fault. she lost her life during that crash. she's actually been hailed a hero. but because of these videos, because also citing separate incidents around the country, involving texting incidents, because of those, metro rail in d.c. is now saying they've got a zero tolerance policy on drivers texting. they're inviting anyone to send in videos like this. metro's saying they want to see them. >> don't text while you're driving a car, riding a bike or certainly not driving a train or anything like that. all right. thanks very much. it's easier than you might think for crooks to figure out your social security number. a professor revealed how he said he cracked the code and why all
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of us should be even more concerned about identity theft. also coming up, disturbing allegations of racism at a swimming pool. dozens of kids may have been embarrassed or even worse. how much michelle obama is making sure fellow first ladies aren't left out over the g-8 summit in italy. dinner bell sfx: ping ping ping fancy feast elegant medleys tuscany entrées restaurant inspired dishes with long grain rice and garden greens is it love? or is it fancy feast?
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there are things you likely never worry about sharing with friends or others. when you were born, where you were born. what if those innocent things about you could be used to victimize you in an entirely new and very wicked, wicked way. we asked our brian todd to investigate this story. because this as an impact on
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potentially millions of people out there. >> that's right. we all get social security numbers, wolf. a 36-year-old professor from italy has opened a new battle front against identity theft by exposing the predictability of how we currently get assigned our social security numbers. this professor says all he needs to get started in finding your social security number is your date of birth and the state where you were born. information that millions of americans freely give out by registering to vote or buputtin it on facebook or myspace pages. we're going to try to at least get in the ballpark of my social security number. i was born in virginia. leave out the date here. october of 19 [ bleep ]. how would you come across the first digits, three, four, five digits. >> we would know it would be likely between -- the first few digits 223 and 221.
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>> that's right. >> those are the area numbers assigned based on the state you were born. the last six numbers are given in chronological order. to find them, he and researchers used statistical techniques and mined publicly available data from the social security administration's death master file. that shows the patterns in which people who are deceased got their numbers. he says it's much easier to narrow down numbers for people born after 1988. most americans started getting assigned social security numbers at birth. >> the entire nine dij uts we can predict with fewer than 1,000 attempts. >> reporter: and it's even easier to track people born inless populated states. his point in all this? >> social security numbers are very -- they were not designed to be used the way we are using them now. >> reporter: so the social security administration has been cautions people to stop using
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social security numbers as pass words at the bank and other places. officials from the social security administration did not respond to our request for an on-camera interview. but in a statement, a spokesman said, quote, the suggestion that he has cracked a code for predicting an ssn is a dramatic exaggeration. but he says for reasons unrelated to the professor's report, they will start randomly assigning social security numbers next year. the professor says it's about time. they've got to do that. >> the numbers are staggering, the identity theft is going up. >> you don't believe them when you look at them. this firm issued a report recently on social security and -- well, actually identity fraud theft. just in the u.s. last year, here are some of the numbers. 9.9 million victims in the united states last year. about 4.3% of the u.s. population. and the numbers, $48 billion in losses just for identity fraud among americans last year. about $5,000 a person, wolf. this is why you've got to just
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try to think of some random numbers. and the social security administration is going to do its part by issuing random social security numbers not based on where and when you were born starting next week. >> really protect that social security number best as you can. your date of birth, probably, as well. >> that's right. >> thanks very much. you like him personally. but far fewer of you appear to be happy with president obama. your thoughts on his strengths and his weaknesses, toughness. that's coming up. is sarah palin the renegade? she often criticizes the news media for its coverage of her but often appears on magazine covers and gives news media interviews. is there some sort of contradiction. take a look at the new cover of "time" magazine. ( crack of bat, cheering )
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between consuming less and conserving more. there is one important word: how. and it is the how that makes all the difference. to the planet we all share. president obama remains very popular. but guess what? not as popular as he was only a few months ago. what's going on? let's discuss it in our strategy
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session. joining us now, our cnn political contributor the democratic strategist donna brazile and the republican strategist kevin madden. now numbers just out today, donna, our cnn opinion research corporation poll. take a look at these contrasts between -- we asked the question, is president obama a strong leader? back in february, 80% said yes. now down to 70%. is he tough enough? back in february, 83% said yes. 64% said yes now. and does he have a clear plan for the country? in february 64% said yes. 53% said now. i see a trend there that the white house may not be happy. >> i think the white house should be satisfied right now that things seem to be leveling off from the astronomical numbers that he started off with. but, wolf, it's the economy. people are dissatisfied. they're worried. they're worried about their own standards of living, jobs,
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health care. part of the problem with the president's numbers right now is that people are just worried sick. >> if his numbers are going down, i don't see any evidence numbers of republicans are going up. do you, kevin sf. >> not yet. i think with those numbers presents an opportunity. republicans have a chance now on health care, on energy, on the economy to offer our vision for a better future. because i think the numbers are going down on the economy because the president has overpromised and underdelivered. what's most troubles if you're sitting in the white house now and looking at those numbers the trend line. look at places like ohio, virginia, those are leading indicators of where the rest of the country may be going. also what i think is most troubling is the fact that, donna's heard me argue this many, many times, president obama's real base right now is the middle. independents. he's losing independents. they're breaking away at a troubling pace. >> they're deeply worried that the unemployment rate goes nationally to 10%, already above 10% in california, michigan. if it goes nationally up to 10%,
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that's an indication that the president's political popularity could suffer? >> the president said it last week. he's not satisfied. he's not satisfied with the unemployment numbers. that's why the white house is redoubling their efforts right now to make sure that this money is going to the states, going to the people who need it most. i don't think the white house should be worried about their poll numbers. they should be worried about whether our people have food on their tables. that's what the president of the united states should be concerned about. >> folks still admire him a great deal. this question we asked, do you approve or disapprove of the president as a person, as a person. 79% approved. 17% disapproved. personally he's well liked. here's the question. does that translate into getting health care reform done by the end of august as he says he wants to do? >> it helps a little. but it doesn't help enough. i think that a lot of people will afford the president a certain degree of admiration on his personals ary buttes. he's got what they used to
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describe john f. kennedy as vigor. youth and charisma are not going to help very troubling policies. we've seen lots of spending. weave seen the specifics of the health care plan not match up with where the american public wants to see health care go. that's what's creating this deficit between his personal charm and political popularity. >> donna, do you agree he's got to get health care done this year and energy reform done this year because he's got to take advantage of that personal popularity? if he waits until next year, a mid-term election year, the chances are reduced he'll get it done? >> what's unacceptable, wolf, is the notion that somehow or another we have to put these major policy decisions on hold. 14,000 americans losing their health care every day. millions of -- >> this is the moment he's got to do it. if he can't do it between now and the end of the summer he's in deep trouble? >> why accumulate capital if you're not willing to use it. if the critics are only going to sit around and complain and whine and then beg for
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forgiveness next election year because they were not at the table when the president said let's get these -- >> he's got a window right now to do it, right? >> right. i saw somewhere the other day, there's only 22 legislative days left to get something like health care done. that is a very short time. every single day that there's not significant progress made on health care, i think is another day where -- the chance they may not get it. >> democrats will get it done. let's talk about sarah palin, the governor alaska. "time" magazine, our sister publication, the renegade. she's standing there up in alaska. she's giving interviews including an interview to "time" magazine. gave an interview to most of the major television networks earlier in the week. she says she wants to be out of the spotlight. she's in the spotlight, isn't she? a lot of that is her own doing. >> i think so. i think that sarah palin has -- she has what every politician wants. that is options. she has an incredible amount of flexibility what she can do. she could make the argument
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she's no long eer tethered in alaska. the big problem right now is what does her profile look like and whether or not it's going to be for elected office or -- >> never too early to go to iowa. republican leaders in iowa right now, they're inviting her. they're saying, governor, come on down. >> let me tell you, the barbecue there is just as good as in chicago. kevin is absolutely right. she has time now to plan for a more successful future, to rebrand herself and make sure this transition out of public office is smooth and that the next governor will be able to continue her legacy. that's important. also, she needs to have a blockbuster, good-selling book so she can come on the wolf blitzer "situation room." >> expect that book will be a best seller. we're learning of a startling new kind of graverobber. dozens of bodies allegedly were ripped out of the ground over at a cemetery so that the plots could be sold again. what is going on?
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we're investigating. also ahead, anti-government protesters in iran are refusing to stay silent despite the threat. they're back on the streets big time today defying the government's crackdown and possibly risking their lives. a retired football star's final message before he was killed in what police are calling a murder-suicide. wait until you hear what steve mcnair wanted you to know before he died.
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let's check in with jack cafferty for the cafferty file. >> the question this hour, should health care legislation contain billions of dollars for parks, walking paths and farmers markets. marvin in washington, are liberals will goiever going to ? this is the kind of spending that gets them removed from power every time. democrats could rule for decades if they wanted to. when they use taxes to steal from one group and give to another, american voters throw them out of office. joe writes, yes. weight management and good nutrition are critical components of health. walking has one of the lowest dropout rates of any exercise program. farmers markets provide access to fruits and vegetables that may not be ready accessible to inner city stores. they provide a integral part of health management. james, should focus on making quality health care affordable to all citizens, not building parks, playgrounds and fitness center.
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send the lobbyists home. let the congress work for the people who actually voteford them instead of the corporations with the money. if we find a need for such infrastructure, there are a lot of unemployed people who might be happy to have some honest work in the n a ccc type program. that's supposedly what the stimulus package was right to do. ing a -- i don't think it's such a bad idea. during the depression in the 1930s a number of parks and recreational projects were built in and around new york city that are still in use to this day. we say we're concerned about our children. maybe they'll be healthier if they have well-designed recreational areas to play in. is that so bad? alex in washington, please focus on health care. i go to the va for my health care. the government bureaucrats do a fine job of getting me the care i need. on the other hand, i just paid $1,300 for anesthesia for my stepson's wisdom teeth removal.
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evidently my wife's health insurance plan considers anesthesia a luxury while removing impacted wisdom teeth. ouch. wolf? >> literally, ouch. can you imagine? we'll be right back with you. to our viewers, you're in "the situation room." happening now, defiant new showdowns in iran. as many as 3,000 people risking arrest, possibly even death to shout for their demands for a new government. video of their clashes with government forces is now coming in to "the situation room." also, reports that michael jackson's family was so concerned about his alleged drug abuse they tried to stage an intervention. we're going to talk to the last journalist to interview the singer before his death. desecration on a massive scale. hundreds of bodies ripped from their graves at an historic cemetery. dismembered and dumped. then the plots resold to
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unsuspects grieving families. what is going on? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." the outrage is back in full force in the streets of the iranian capital where protesters are right now risking their lives to demonstrate against the government they deem to be illegitimate. as many as 3,000 people facing off with security forces, determined to silence them. a flood of new images is now coming out of iran. monitoring all of it, let's turn to reza. tell our viewers what's going on. >> reporter: it's a little after 1:30 a.m. in the morning local time in iran. things are quiet at this hour. things really heated up earlier in the day. at times things got flat-out ugly. these were the first protests we've seen in about 11 days. let's show you some video that's been coming into the iran desk over the past few hours. really difficult to put a number of on the demonstrators that
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came out today. based on eyewitnesss we've spoken with, they put the number about 3,000 protesters. they started gathering at revolution square in downtown tehran between 4:00 and 5:00 p.m. local time. they were met there with a few thousand security forces. obviously arrested people who were violent. that's what we saw. according to cnn sources on the ground there were numerous occasions where there were clashes. these forces managed to get the protesters out of revolution square. but according to eyewitnesss, the protesters spread out to surrounding streets and neighborhoods, one eyewitness described a man with a bloody face. several eyewitnesss say security forces attacked protesters. also accounts of tear gas and shots being fired into the air. on some of these videos that you're watching right now, some very aggressive chants against the government. we heard "death to the
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dictator", "death to i -- i tole ya khomeini. today, wolf, you heard this. not as many protesters out as we've seen before. certainly a good 3,000 of them coming out of revolution square and surrounding neighborhoods. >> we'll see what happens tomorrow, friday, which is a holy day in the muslim world. thanks very much. i.e.d. attacks. right now they're soaring in afghanistan. what is going on in this front? lots of u.s. troops obviously in harm's way. let's go to our pentagon correspondent, chris lawrence. we've seen a huge spike in these
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ied attacks. what's going on? >> reporter: in all the years american troops have been fighting in afghanistan they have never seen this many ied attacks. these are just some of the 25 people who died when a massive bomb exploded in kabul thursday. the blast sent shrapnel flying a mile away. explosives in afghanistan now have more sheer power and often target american troops. >> the biggest threat is really from ieds. the imp provised explosive devices which have become more and more sophisticated over time. >> reporter: and more common. look at the month of june in afghanistan. in 2005 there were 51 ied incidents. two years later that jumped to 234. then last month, it skyrocketed to 736. that's an increase of more than 1,000%.
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admiral mike mullen saw firsthand the damage inflicted by eeds as he watched the remains of american soldiers return home. four of these men died monday when a roadside bomb ripped their vehicle apart in northern afghanistan. humvees are lightweight and have a flat bottom that absorbs blasts. that's why there's an intense push to get more mine resistant ambush protective gear. >> from an equipment standpoint there's no higher priority than to get these vehicles as rapidly as we can. >> reporter: there are less than 3,000 of them in all of afghanistan. they don't work as well over heat and mountainous terrain. a new version is being built now. the first ones won't arrive until october at the earliest. the pentagon is committed to buy more than 5,000 of the new vehicles. they aren't cheap. a humvee costs less than $200,000. these aremillion.
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how much are they needed? of all the marines getting killed now in afghanistan, ieds are killing 80% of them. >> whatever it costs, they've got to do it to save these lives. obviously that's a no-brainer. let's just do it and do it quickly. thanks very much for that. let's check in with jack cafferty right now. he's got the cafferty file. priority number one. you send troops in harm's way, you've got to do whatever is necessary to make sure they come back safe and sound. >> we've been dealing with the threat from ieds for how many years in iraq? i mean, it seems to me somebody with a little foresight, if we were going to move extra troops into afghanistan and step up operations there, might have made some arrangements to provide additional vehicles for these personnel to travel around in. let's hope they get them there yesterday. at some point, and probably in the not too distant future, this will become president obama and the democrats' recession. not george w. bush's. if the economy doesn't start to show some signs of life, democrats could feel the voters'
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anger in next year's mid-term elections. president obama is traveling a path not unlike the one traveled by president ronald reagan. in a fine piece written by my colleague and friend christine romans for cnn.com, she points out the democrats could learn something from president reagan's experience. both reagan and obama wildly popular early on. but in both cases, unemployment rising. in the 1982 elections reagan's republican party lost 26 seats. experts say the scale tipped when unemployment hit 10%. guess what? president obama currently has 9.5% unemployment. now says that 10% is likely before the year is over. renowned investor warren duff fete on "good morning america" this very morning said unemployment in this country could hit 11%. it seems everyone knows someone who's lost a job while the obama administration is busy pointing the finger at bush. those unemployed americans who
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cannot find work will likely be tempted to take it out on whoever's in power when they go to the polls next fall. what remains to be seen is if voters are ready to start putting republicans back in power so soon after the eight years of the bush administration. here's the question. will the voters blame the democrats for our economic problems in next year's mid-term election? go to cnn.com/caffertyfile. post a comment on my blog. could get very interesting. >> yeah. 10% or more unemployment, you know a lot of those voters will. >> yep. >> okay, jack. thanks very much. michael jackson's body still unburied two weeks after his death. where is it held? where will it be interred? the last journalist to interview michael jackson standing by to share what he knows with us comes up. a lawyer for the embattled senator john ensign of nevada now says his mistress got tens of thousands of dollars from ensign's parents. paul begala and alex castellanos
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standing by with their takes. summer camp students barred from the pool at a private club. is it because they're black and latino? shocking allegations of discrimination and an explanation that's even more stunning.
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two weeks since the death of michael jackson and his body remains unburied. in fact, no one knows for sure where it is right now at least outside of the immediate family and their closest friends. the journalist and cnn
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contributor brian monroe is joining us now to talk a little bit about that and some other issues that are still out there. lots of unanswered questions. have you heard anything specific, brian, about the body, where it is right now, where it might be buried? >> well, it's a little bit unclear from what i'm hearing. it could be in a mos leem near or around -- there are questions about how it made it back from staples center after the ceremony. they've got a little bit of time. i think they're trying to work out, there was application for a temporary internment at forest lawn. that's on file with the state. and they may be holding it there for a while until they can get, perhaps, the legal situation at neverland together with both the state and the -- the owners of the property, the co-owners of the property, trying to clear with the community of neverland. still an option. >> his brother jermaine jackson told larry king, that would be his choice, to see the body
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buried at neverland at that ranch. there's a lot of legal paper work you've got to go through to get permission for that to happen. that could take some time. let's move on and talk about the investigation right now. there are some doctors who the authorities want to question, specifically. give us some context, some perspective of what they want to ask these doctors. >> it's looking at what kind of medications were they prescribing him, and for what causes. and also i think the toxicology report will come out after the autopsy in a few weeks may confirm what, if anything, he had in his system. we know that michael has had issues with prescription drugs. and, in fact, the report that came out that his sister, janet, as well as the other sister and jackie and randy tried even an intervention with him back in the end of 2006, beginning of 2007, and he shut them out in that process. so there was concern about using prescription drugs to sort of -- and he says bring himself down
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after a long day. there was never any sense he was a recreational drug user at all. but there was questions about was there an overuse of certain painkillers and even the latest report about the short-term sedative that was very, very dangerous. >> our investigative reporter drew griffin reported on this intervention at tend of 2006, 2007 that janet jackson when she saw her brother apparently was so concerned she wanted immediate family members to get involved. and she said he rebuffed them. what kind of relationship did michael jackson have with janet jackson? >> they were close. all the brothers and sisters were close on different levels. michael saw at the core his family first. while there were many friends and advisers and legal counsel and health counsel in and out of his life, his family was there forever. so the flip side of that is when he would get tired of them or they would get too close to
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something, he would turn them off and not return phone calls for a while. but he knew they would always come back into his life. they weren't going anywhere. >> the family obviously saw janet jackson at that memorial earlier in the week. she was really comforting those little kids, especially the daughter, paris. i assume, and you know this a lot better than i do, she had a pretty good relationship with those kids? >> yeah. she was a great auntie. you saw the image yesterday when paris leaned against her arm and janet reached out to comfort her. then as paris was beginning the speech, all the sisters, janet, la toy ya were right there to support her as well as all six of the brothers. even the other two children, prince and blanket, taucked in there. right at the center of the family. i think as they work through the custody issues i think they should stay and remain inside that core jackson family with the grandmother, with the brothers and sisters. their uncles and aunts and their
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cousins. they have a whole host of kozens that really love them. >> they have an incredible nanny who's been involved in their lives almost all of their lives as well by all accounts. >> right. >> from hua wrwanda, i think, originally. listen to this exchange larry king had light night on "larry king live" with dr. arnie klein, michael jackson's long-time dermatologist. listen to this. >> this is hypothetical. if you were the parent. this is hypothetical. >> yes. >> larry: would you go and talk to them? >> if i was the parent i would spend every moment of the day with the children. >> larry: you would become their father? >> absolutely. >> a very strange story. he's not completely ruling out that he's the biological father of the two older kids, as you know, bryan. he's saying to the best of his knowledge, he's not. he's leaving some wiggle room. what did you make of it?
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>> that was a fascinating interview he did with larry king last night. he really left a little wiggle room there. he did admit that he had donated sperm at one point but was very ambiguous about it. one thing he was clear about was how much he saw the love that michael had for his children and how supportive he wanted to be in that process no matter what he needed to do. but he explained the relationship and the relationship he had both medically and personally with michael. i thought it was a fascinating conversation. >> i agree. it was an amazing interview, indeed. i watched it. larry did an excellent job. it was just good, good television. thanks very much, bryan, we'll see you back here tomorrow. a looming health crisis prompts president obama to order a flu summit, the h1n1 flu, also known as swine flu expected to come back with a vengeance in the united states in the fall. what's the country doing to prepare? plus, just released. a dash cam video of steve mcnair's girlfriend being arrested for dui.
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only 48 hours before the murder-suicide that took both their lives.
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debra feyerick is monitoring other important stories incoming
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into "the situation room" right now. deb, what's going on? >> reporter: wolf, the sister of an american journalist killed in north korea says her sibling acknowledges breaking the law. lisa ling says she spoke to her sister, laura, from north korea on tuesday. >> i don't know exactly what happened that day on march 17th. the details are still unknown to us. and the only people outside north korea who really do know are laura and euna. she was very, very deliberate and specific when she said, we broke the law in north korea. >> reporter: lauraling and fellow journalist euna lee were detained in north korea while working from a san francisco television station. they were sentenced to 12 years hard labor for illegal entry and hostile acts. fans lining up in nashville to view the casket of steve mcnair ahead of tonight's memorial service. he was shot to death by his
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girlfriend who then killed herself. police released this dash cam video of her dui arrest two days before the murder-suicide. mcnair was allowed to take a taxi home. we just learned shortly before his death mcnair recorded a public service announcement for suicide. investigators just released their findings on the plane crash that killed business tycoon and adventurer steve fosset. he disappeared in december 2007. a hiker found his personal effects in california's sierra nevada's more than a year later. wolf? nearly a month after senator john ensign admitted to an affair with a campaign aide, new allegations of a cover-up. wait until you hear how much his former mistress was allegedly paid and by whom. also, the director of the cia admits under the bush administration, members of the agency weren't always honest with congress. should they have been? what's going on?
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cnn has exclusive access to an historic cemetery near chicago where authorities now say more than 300 graves have been unearthed. we're going to show you the scene.
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you're in "the situation room." happening now, the united states releases five iranians arrested in iraq more than two years ago. but is a secret war being waged between the united states and iran in iraq? guess what, i'll be joined by cnn's michael ware from baghdad. he's got new information. also, researchers say they've cracked the code that could make identity theft even more common. it's the key to your social security number. michael jackson's final resting place. where will it be? some new information about whether a burial at neverland is possible. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." but first, we're getting some new details of payments
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made to senator john ensign's former mistress. let's bring in bryan todd who's working this story for us. the story has taken a new term. >> it keeps getting a little more salacious each time. he apologized publicly last month to the woman he had an affair with and who was a close friend of john ensign's. now the husband is speaking out and accusing the senator of paying off his mistress. three weeks after senator john ensign admitted to an affair with a campaign aide whose husband worked in his office, new information and allegations of a cover-up. speaking publicly for the first time, doug hampton, ensine's former administrative assistant whose wife cindy was treasurer of the senator's re-election campaign, says that his wife received a hefty severance payment when she stopped working for the senator. >> he paid severance to your wife out of his own pocket? >> to my knowledge, that's correct. >> how much? >> that i don't know.
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>> she's your wife. was it more than $25,000? >> absolutely. >> a lot more? >> yes. >> it was a lot more than $25,000? he's got some serious issues, because that was never disclosed. >> reporter: by senator ensign's parents who were concerned about the hamptons' well-being. in a statement on the senator's behalf, his attorney says, in april 2008, senator ensign's parents each made gifts to doug hampton, cindy hampton, and two of their children in the form of a check totalling $96,000. it's not clear at the moment whether campaign finance law has been violated by these payments. but analysts say the reemergence
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by hampton and discussion of money being exchanged do little to put senator ensign's political problems to rest. >> you have allegations, did he pay hush money, how much did he pay, why did it pay it? these are all questions that could -- could develop. and could further engulf him as a political figure. >> reporter: doug hampton also says in the interview that republican senator tom coburn of oklahoma who earlier confronted ensign about the affair to try to stop it believed the hamptons deserved restitution. coburn told us today that he categorically denies suggesting that any payments be made to doug and cynthia hampton, wolf. >> what else does doug hampton, the husband of the mistress, allege in this interview? >> he says one day after senator ensign wrote a letter to cindy hampton saying how remorseful he was about the relationship, he met up with her one day later. the senator's office will not comment on that. >> thanks very much for that.
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let's talk about this and more with cnn political contributors, democratic strategist james carville and republican strategist alex castellanos. >> you'd certainly rather be talking about something else. his popularity ratings, even up to today, have been better than harry reid's and nancy pelosi's ratings. evidently the voters in that state think being promiscuous with our tax money and spending too much is a more serious offense than whatever senator ensign's doing. >> you're laughing, james? >> i'm always amused at republicans who worry about spending after their eight years. maybe hell hath no fury like a man scorned. the husband of this woman is going out there pretty good. i love the language of the law, the gifts to these people.
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you refer to them as gifts. i thought that was pretty amusing, too. i agree this is not going to have a lasting political effect. and i've said this before. it's not likely, it's almost a certainty democrats are going to get caught up in this kind of thing. we don't need to take morality lessons from politicians. that's the real lesson we're learning in all this. this will be the end of politicians preaching to us about family values. everyone is human and we understand that. >> how much damage for the republican party, alex, does the john ensign affair and the governor sanford of south carolina, have? >> i think the failings of one individual, i think, don't necessarily reflect on the -- on the group. in this situation, wolf, these are -- these are failings of a man and not of a -- of a philosophy. with james, i know he'd rather have a democratic party or both parties that are silent about right and wrong and a valueless
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society. but, frankly, precisely because we all fail, because we all make mistakes, it's good to have standards and leaders who will stand up and try to establish them. certainly the democratic party has no problem trying to enforce its values. for example, on education. it says our kids should go to a government-run school and parents shouldn't have the right to choose. the democrats don't seem to have any kind of problem legislating their values. >> go ahead, jimmy. >> of course, i don't think that people need to take their values from politicians. i think they can take it from their family, i think they can take it from their churches, i think they can take it from their ethics. what happens is we see when you have people like this, you know, that sit and say one thing and do another, it leads to sort of a deterioration of respect. i think the best thing that political people can do is to lead the country in a sort of political direction, if you will. again, i think both parties are comprised of human beings. you have political parties that are comprised of human beings, things like this are going to
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happen. it seems to be happening to republicans a little more frequently than democrats. i suspect over a period of time that will balance out. >> you know, james, there's no shortage of democrats that have their own sexual escapades? >> absolutely not. there'll be no shortage of democrats in the future. that's why -- i think come time to vote, i think this stuff will kind of recede. but, you know, again, when something like this happens, we continue to find out in every case that there's always more to it than first meets the eye. i think it's a sort of tragic thing for senator ensign ice family. obviously the husband of this woman is still not very pleased about what happened. i suspect that we've gotten over things like this before. i suspect we'll get over this one, too. >> let's talk about the cia right now and congress, alex. i'll start with you. i'll play a little clip from the speaker, nancy pelosi. she was asked today about these reports that the new cia director has basically told congress, leon panetta, former
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clinton chief of staff, that the cia during the bush administration effectively misled or even lied to congress about sensitive, classified issues. listen to nancy pelosi. >> i've seen the letters from the members. and obviously they have concern. the intelligence committee has the oversight responsibility for intelligence in the house and the equivalent committee in the senate. i'm sure they will be pursuing this in their regular committee process and -- and that's the way it will go. >> i know you remember, a few weeks ago nancy pelosi said the cia routinely lied to her and to congress. she was really severely criticized for that comment by a lot of republicans. here's the question. does leon panetta's letter to the house intelligence committee vindicate the speaker? >> i don't think so, wolf. the charge here really, if you read clearly what is written, is that the cia concealed actions
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from congress. and, therefore, misled and deceived. it's the cia's job to conceal what they're doing. congress, we don't have 435 mini presidents. it's the president's job, not congress, to know details of everything that's going on. so, again, i think politically it's a huge mistake for pelosi. she was a fairly unknown house speaker until she got tangled in this mess a few month ago then became one of the most unpopular democrats in the country by saying the people who defend our country on the front lines, the intelligence community, why those people routinely deceive the people of the united states. bad political mistake. now, of course the pressure is on president obama. does he think the cia routinely misleads? >> james? >> again, you have what the cia director said. you can't -- i think the best thing to do in some of these instances is to try to sit down and go forward. i think there was a lot of deception from the years 2001
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through 2008. and not going to be very hard to find it. i think what we can do now is try to figure a way that we don't have to go back and visit that rather dark time in our nation's history. and that would be sort of a good idea. i think you'd probably flush this out with people in congress and the cia director. it's not unusual that these things happen. best thing to do is to try to figure out a way to reconcile this and sort of move on in a different direction. >> we're going to move on now. i want to point out, alex, you know the most sensitive information the cia shares with only a tiny number of members of the congressional leadership of the house and senate intelligence committees and the leadership in the house and the senate. they don't share it with all 435 members of the house or all 100 senators. >> even president obama acknowledges that there are some things that remain as executive and not congressional. >> they shouldn't even share, you're saying, with the chair and vice chair of the intelligence committees? is that what you're saying? >> i'm saying as the executive
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who's an executive branch function, the cia actually works for the president of the united states. >> but they're funded by the congress. i know a fiscal conservative like alex would want people who hold the pursestrings to also know what's going on. we wouldn't want to overspend now, would we? >> not on every detail. not when it comes to the defense of the united states. the intelligence committee. >> thank v. much. this family vacation is nothing like your family vacation. the first family in russia, now in italy. what are michelle obama and her daughters doing while the president works. stand by. a full report. the race to come up with a swine flu vaccine. will it be ready in time for the coming flu season? possibly millions of new cases this fall.
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. the obama administration is putting states across the country on notice about a potential resurgence of swine flu. the president called in from italy today to a summit meeting
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on the disease being held near washington, d.c., putting an exclamation point on the warning. >> we were fortunate not to see a more furious situation in the spring when we first got news of this outbreak. that the potential for a significant outbreak in the fall is looming. >> let's bring in our senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen. he's working this story for us. lots of concern that when the -- when the flu season starts in the fall, we could have a big problem with the swine flu. >> wolf, that's exactly right. we all know the swine flu really is no longer in the headlines. but it's easy to forget that the number of cases really could go up as cold weather approaches.
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>> reporter: right now, in labs across the country, scientists are preparing a vaccine against the h1n1 virus, also known as swine flu. at a summit today, health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius said the vaccine should be ready when flu season returns this autumn. >> this is a serious virus capable of causing serious disease and even death. it's time to be vigilant. we have to avoid come plplacencd we must be prepared for whatever the fall brings. >> reporter: sebelius said to expect the vaccine in mid-october. at thursday's summit, many gathered to discuss plans. president barack obama spoke over a video link from the g-8 summit in italy. >> i think that if we are all working together in a thoughtful systematic way based on the best science possible, that even if this turns out to be a serious
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situation, we can mitigate the damage and protect our -- our neighbors and our friends and coworkers. >> reporter: there have been 33,000 confirmed and probable cases of swine flu in the u.s. but the cdc estimates there may have actually been about 1 million cases in the u.s. so far. there have been 170 deaths. to help predict what will happen in the upcoming flu season, held officials are looking to the southern hemisphere where flu season is currently under way. in australia from july 3rd to july 6th there were 730 newly confirmed swine flu cases. but just one death. which says something about the h1n1 virus. while it spreads easily, most cases around the world so far have been mild to moderate. so far the u.s. government has spent about $1 billion developing a vaccine against h1n1. wolf? >> let's hope it works. all right, elizabeth. thanks very much. it's not your typical family vacation when it comes to the
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first family. they're in italy right now where president obama is attending the g-8 summit. what are the first lady and the first daughters up to? here's cnn's paula newton. paula? >> reporter: wolf, it's a tough act to pull off. you bring your whole family on vacation and you still have a lot of work to do. and you have to look impeccable throughout. michelle obama certainly doing her best. it's not the easiest family trip to pull off. michelle obama, kids and husband landed in moscow to start their three-country tour, the first lady a focus of attention. for the most part, though, she's trying to keep the spotlight off her girls. mrs. obama looked flawless through a grueling russian schedule and arguably held up better than her husband. >> i don't know if anybody else will meet their future wife or husband in class like i did.
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>> reporter: president obama was apparently so jet lagged during the speech, he said he met his wife at school. he met her at work. oh, well. never mind. it's on to rome. michelle obama is the first lady. but in rome, she's not the only lady. there is a delicate balance to strike here with other spouses. warm and gracious, but don't take too much attention. here in the media filing room we're keeping frak of what some of the other wives are doing. sarah brown, the british prime minister's wife is blogging, tweeting. posing her pictures on the blog. that's her with the pope. that is her with michelle obama when they were touring the earthquake ruins. you'd run your own pr campaign, too, if you had to overcome the british tabloid term for the better half. they call them wag, which stands for wives and girlfriends, but sounds more insulting.
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carla bruni from france has so far been a no-show. for michelle obama, that's not an option. this has hardly been a typical family road trip. though many mothers can relate to the first lady on this one. she's had to be charming to her hosts without imposing. had to keep the kids busy so they never say, i'm bored. and she will try to keep her better half relaxed and stress free. okay, with president obama's intense schedule, that might have to wait. tomorrow the first family meets with the pope. they have an audience with the pope. no doubt, again a lot of media attention. certainly something i'm sure the first family is looking forward to. >> a historic trip for the first family indeed wraps up saturday in ghana which i'm sure the first family will thoroughly enjoy as well. workers at an historic african-american cemetery accused of digging up graves, throwing out the very remains. we'll tell you why. an exclusive report from the
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scene. minority kids from an inner city philadelphia day care center are barred, yes, barred from a suburban swim club after paying for access. is it because of their race? we're going to take a closer look. stick around. you're in "the situation room."
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shocking news from a historic cemetery south of chicago today where authorities historic cemetery where hundreds of graves have been dug up as part of a scheme to resell the plot. cnn is the only network with access to the grounds of the cemetery. an exclusive look at some of the remains closeup. this is truly, cheryl, a shocking story. give us the background and tell us what we know. >> wolf, we have been to the back of the cemetery where there are piles and piles that police say contain human remains. even the too many stones of small children have been tossed around. there are still hundreds of people here trying to figure out whether or not their family members are involved. many are asking, how could this go on for years and nobody do anything about it? what has happened in this historic african-american cemetery is causing sadness and
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outrage. famous african-americans like emmett till and diana washington are found here. >> i want to know, what do you do when you can't find your family member? >> reporter: what do you do? many are asking the same question. at least 300 bodies were ripped from their graves, many crushed into piles with the cement vaults they were buried in all so their graves could be resold. >> he is supposed to be at 10-2, row 9, grave 21. there is nothing over there, not even any too many stones, not even no flowers. it is like they just recut grass. for employees of the burr oak cemetery, they have been charged with felony dismemberment of the
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human body. even police are shocked by the careless treatment of the people who are supposed to be resting here in peace on sacred ground. >> as i was walking around, i came across bones that it was clear they were parts of skulls and legs and arms. they are all laying in different places around here. there are piles that have been dumped here. >> they are not human to me. >> reporter: dora montgomery has more than a dozen family members buried here. >> my brother, my mother, my father, my sister. to me, they don't have no heart. >> reporter: we do know that here at the cemetery tonight, they will be maybe here until 10:00, 11:00 tonight. the sheriff told us earlier that the fbi from around the world would be involved in this investigation. later, he said, the fbi from around the country would be involved and that forensic people from around the world
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would be involved in this investigation. the suspects are all in cook county jail tonight. none of them made bail wechlt don't know whether or not they have attorneys. two of them are cooperating with police. wolf? >> let's go to jack cafferty. >> the question is will the voters blame the democrats for our economic problems by next year's mid-term election? bob in kansas writes, yes, i'm a democrat and i will surely blame my party and my president if they don't utilize the political opportunity that was given them by the populous turnout in the last eyex. many voters believe there is no difference between democrats and republicans. the current democrats are proving the truth of that generalization. willow writes in iowa if things don't start to change, we can be calling my tune hooverville. unemployment is slowly dropping in iowa i read in the paper yesterday. june was much lower than
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january. so there is hope. s in florida writes, depends on what happens the month, the week, the day before the vote. i am patiently wait forth democrats to pass health care reform. if they don't succeed, i see trouble in 2010. jose in mccallen, texas, let's not forget that in 2010, the democrats will be in power in congress. it is time they start taking responsibility for their actions and bad decisions. how long can they keep blaming president bush for all their bone-headed ideas and drunken spending. there aren't enough republicans in congress to block any piece of bad legislation. mark writes, by 2010, the era of george will be forgotten. even if the recession starts a recovery, the negative effects will be here for a long time. yes, a lot of the mud will fall on the democrats, because the ones in power are always to blame. it's always been that way. finally, andy says, unless the
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president and vice president go republican and have affairs with women, the democratic party is in good shape. they are much smarter than the party leadership would ever believe. the only reason the republican exists at all is nobody wants a one-party system. we had that during the last administration. if you didn't see your e-mail, go to my blog and check for yours there. wolf? a new sign that michael jackson's family may still be considering burying him at the neverland ranch. plus, echos of segregation. children of color barred from a private club swimming pool. so what do you think? i think i'll go with the basic package. good choice. only meineke lets you choose the brake service that's right for you. and save 50% on pads and shoes. meineke.
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words of race sim from a swim club. susan candiotti reports. >> reporter: swimming once a week at the spacious valley club in philadelphia. it sounded ideal for 65 kids described as black and hispanic at creative daycare summer camp. when the youngsters showed up at the pool june 29th after the day camp signed and paid a $1,900 contract, this happened. >> the children came running down the hill saying, miss wr e wright, miss wright, those people are saying, what are those black kids getting in the pool? >> he said, why are these black kids here? he didn't say, i'm afraid he might do something to my children. i don't know if they might try to steal my stuff or harm my children.
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i was mazed thamazed they were something like that. >> reporter: mrs. wright says the swim club's director told her he was embarrassed, held an emergency board meeting and called the next day to say they could not come back. >> he said, the membership said, let the chips fall where they may. >> reporter: you know, marcus, i see tears coming down your face. why does this make you cry? >> because it is kind of like sad that people are still thinking like this. i felt like this was over. >> this is 2009. children should not be subjected to that. >> reporter: the swim club director is quoted as saying the day camp children change the atmosphere and complexion of the club. >> i will be asking for the club president's resignation. i think the comment that he made, although taken out of context, was probably one of the
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stupidest comments i ever heard. >> reporter: he claims the club was simply overcrowded, not racist. two other unidentified camps, both nonminority, also got the boot. arlen specter sent a letter to the club and said that he asked the club to invite the daycare center back. also, the pennsylvania human rights commission has opened up its own investigation into allegations of racism and finally, we can tell you the kids are swimming because they already previously contracted some time at the jewish community center. so they are there twice a week and another school has stepped forward to also offer them time there. so they might have some fun this summer. the investigation goes on, wolf. back to you. happening now, five alleged lies and politics. democrats claim new evidence that the cia misled them for years. this hour, top secret accusations of torture in defense of the house speaker.
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he can't always get what he wants so what the global recession is costing president obama at his first g-8 summit. michael jackson, a huge mystery right now, will he be buried at neverland? new inquiries about the pop store's final resting place. i am wolf blitzer and you are in "the situation room." we want to welcome our views from around the world. up first this hour, president obama tests his limits. he may be the superstar at the g-8 submit mmit in italy. that's not stopping other leaders from throwing cold water on his agenda. what happened to his goal of trying to reduce global warming. our white house correspondent, suzanne malveaux is traveling with the president. suzanne? >> reporter: president obama is a popular figure here at the g-8 summit. the larger the meetings get, the harder it is to find consensus
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as he acknowledged and discovered when he held a meeting on climate change. among world leaders, president obama is the rookie but also the star. playful applause for mr. obama who showed up late for the class photo. the president's newly status didn't stop him from acting like the class president, arranging this photo op. but the gathered leaders did not move far from their entrenched positions. we have made a good start i many the first one to acknowledge that progress on this issue will not be easy. >> reporter: after chairing a forum on climate change, a dose of reality. >> it is no small task for 17 leaders to bridge theon their d on climate change. >> reporter: they signed on to the goal of cutting greenhouse gas emissions by 80% by 2050. today, joined by leaders from
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rapidly developing countries who are also big polluters like china, india and brazil, they have to scrap that commitment, instead, adding language they would figure out later. poorer nations believe the burden of culting greenhouse gas emissions will unfairly fall on them. >> i think that india and china won't come on board unless they see that the people responsible for most of the pollution, the u.s., which has emitted 30% of the world's pollution in the atmosphere today, are actually taking a leadership role in getting serious about the problem. >> president obama says he gets it. >> we have the much larger carbon footprint per capita. i know in the past, the united states has sometimes fallen short of meeting our responsibility. let me be clear, those days are over. >> mr. obama points to his administration's efforts to promote fuel efficiency, develop clean energy and to get a
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climate bill before congress. all of these points he will bring up before the world leaders when they meet the next time in pittsburgh before september. >> suzanne malveaux reporting from the g-8 summit. >> check out this close encounter between president obama and the leader of libya, a leader the world once shunned. they shook hands today before a dinner. libya, as you know, emerged from its internationally known pariah status and paying for the bombing over lecherbie, scotland. the two leaders met in italy today. let's get to an explosive allegation being leveled at the cia. top democrats accused the agency of misleading or outright lying
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to congress. they say leon panetta has admitted it. republicans say this is a purely political case of democrats trying to protect one of their leaders. brianna is up on capitol hill with more on this story. >> reporter: wolf, the house is set to take up a big intelligence agency bill. republicans seeing this as an opportunity to attack house speaker nancy pelosi for some comments she made about the cia. knowing that, democrats have staged a pre-emptive strike. the cia has been keeping congress in the dark for the last eight years. >> what does this mean? >> it means that something very serious broke down. >> and six other democrats on the house intelligence committee say c.i.a. director, leon panetta, admitted that the cia misled members of congress.
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they say recently, you testified that you have determined that top cia officials have concealed significant actions from all members of congress and misled members for a number of years. he inform >> he informed us there was an operation in place in 2001 until the day before he came to notify us. >> reporter: pete huk str, the committee's top republican downplayed the significance of his briefing. >> i heard about a concept and a plan and some preparation on a program, a program that was never implemented. so, basically, we were briefed on a program that never happened. >> reporter: democrats and republicans wouldn't give specifics, because they say the information is classified. nancy pelosi's accusation that the cia essentially lied to her in a 2002 briefing about so-called harsh interrogation
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tactics, such as waterboarding used on terror suspects. pelosi was less than eager to reopen the debate. >> the intelligence committee has the oversight responsibility for intelligence in the house and equivalent in the senate. >> i do not believe the cia lied to congress. >> reporter: the truth is, on a story like this, dealing with classified briefings, wolf, it is hard to sort out all of what's going on. not only are we not getting specifics but the cia doesn't comment on these classified matters, saying only that is not the policy or practice of the agency to mislead congress, wolf. >> thanks very much, brianna.
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we will get more on this story. let's check in with jack. >> no doubt about it. the tough economic times call for tough decisions and some thinking outside the box. so in an effort to relieve budget woes, the governor of illinois, not rod blagojevich, the new guy, is proposing the early release of up to 10,000 prisoners. the move would reportedly save illinois taxpayers $125 million a year and result in the layoffs of about 1,000 corrections department employees. it would also put thousands of convicts on the streets. but, have no fear, officials hayesen to assure all of us that these would only be released, those deemed by the state as nonthreatening and who have less than a year left to serve. critics say it is just eight scheme by the governor to frighten people in illinois into supporting an income tax increase. illinois isn't the only state to consider such a move. governor arnold schwarzenegger made a similar proposal in
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california a while back, said it would save $180 million by releasing undox documented inmates, among other things. in the past, mississippi, rhode island and kentucky have considered such plans. mississippi is doing it. critics argue that public safety isn't the place to cut the budget and the issue of whether a governor has the authority to release thousands of inmates whose sentence was posed by a judge after they were convicted. is releasing prisoners early a good way for the state to save money? go to cnn.com/cafferty file and post a comment on my blog. that suspected serial killer in north or south carolina, killed five people. he was let out of jail. >> thank you. our reporter calls it a rare public glimpse between the secret war between the united states and iran in iraq. michael ware is in baghdad,
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about to explain what's going on as the u.s. military sets free five iranians arrested more than two years ago in iraq. what's going on? do you think the economy is being stimulated fast enough or does it need another multibillion dollar boost. there is democratic talk of yet another stimulus package and republican talk of that being a huge mistake. one expert wants to show you how easy it is to rip off your identity. >> social security numbers were not designed to be used the way we are using them now. . taking its rightful place in a long line of amazing performance machines. this is the new e-coupe. this is mercedes-benz.
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at least 35 people were killed in a double suicide bombing. 65 others were wounded separately. another person killed in a bombing. this one apparently targeting a police patrol. seven were killed, more than 30 wounded in a pair of bombings in baghdad. all of this happening amid important new developments that could have a major impact on the relationship between washington and tehran. joining us now from baghdad, our correspondent, michael ware. some significant news potentially today after two years. the u.s. military is now releasing some iranians that were arrested in iraq. what's going on? >> this is truly an extraordinary story. this is a rare public glimpse at
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the murky world of the covert conflict being waged here in battlefield iraq between iran and america. now, these five iranians who were detained 2 1/2 years ago and have been held by the americans ever since, tehran says that they are diplomates, from the beginning. the u.s. military has said, no, they are' leet operatives from the iranian revolutionary call, who were supporting sheer militias. now, this fits into a much broader picture fought by the spies. these iranians were arrested in january, 2007, five of them. nine days later, an iranian-back militia attempted to capture five american soldiers. that went awry. the soldiers were killed or executed. a few months later, five british
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nationals were snatched from within the bowels of the ministry of finance here in the capital baghdad. those five british hot tanlstag marked their second year in captivity back in may. just recently, the americans released two very senior shia militia leaders backed by iran. what happened next? bodies of two of the five british hostages were given to the brits. now, with the release of these five iranians, we wait to see what happens next in this covert war being fought here in the shadows of iraq. >> what is the official explanation they are giving for releasing the five iranians. >> it was a request from the iraqi government, no more, no less. however, i will tell you that in a briefing with a senior u.s. official not so long ago, when i asked about the release of one of the key militia leaders, i was told to take my question up
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with the british. you make of that what you will, wolf. >> the shadow war is obviously continuing. michael ware in baghdad. thanks very much. from national security to economic security, many of you want and need more jobs and prosperity right now. could one idea create jobs more quickly or simply become a huge waste of money? let's go to kate bolduan. she has more on this story. kate, what's going on? >> reporter: hey, there, wolf, there is no dispute how painful the massive job losses have been. there is plenty of disagreement over whether there is a need for another stimulus. it is a tough car. risky politically. some say it is risky not to consider or plan for if the economy doesn't recover. >> the administration seems to think it is too soon to tell. >> our great vice president, joe biden. >> reporter: the man president obama called the sheriff, pounding the pavement from new
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york to high who ohio crisscros country defending the stimulus package. >> remember, we are only 140 days into this. it is supposed to take 18 months. >> reporter: some democrats and republicans are talking about stimulus, round two. republicans say that would be repeating a huge mistake. >> the model is this, the stimulus isn't creating enough jobs. >> reporter: meanwhile, house speaker, nancy pelosi is calling for patience and predicting results. >> i don't think it has been given the time to work. this third quarter is a big quarter for the stimulus i think that people will begin to see more of the results. >> so where do things stand according to the white house budget office. 158 billion of the $787 billion is committed. washington has so far distributed about $57 billion. numbers and a timeline that some
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economists say mean it is still too early to tell if yet another stimulus jolt is needed. economist, mark zandi has advised congress and the administration on the stimulus plan. >> i really think it will be october, november, december, before we have a clear sense of how well this is working. the maximum benefit to the economy really won't occur until later this fall. >> we may have to wait until early next year to gain success there. he suggests the new stimulus could include more money to state government as he predicts budget problems to get worse. also, more help for taxpayers. wolf? >> thanks, kate, very much. they are things you likely never really worry about sharing when you were born, where you were born but what if those innocent things about you could be used to victimize you in an entirely new and wicked way.
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let's bring in brian todd. he has more on the story. >> reporter: a 36-year-old profess or from italy has opened a new battle front against identity theft by exposing the predict ability of how we currently get assigned our social security numbers. all he needs to get started in finding your social security number is your date of birth and the state where you were born. information that millions of americans freel give out by registering to vote or putting it on their facebook or myspace pages. >> i was born in virginia. bleep out the date. how would you come upon the first couple of digits, first three or four or five digits? >> so we would know from private information that it would likely, the first three digits between 223 and 231.
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. >> reporter: that's right. >> the last six numbers are given in chronological order. to find them, they used statistical techniques and mind publicly available data from the social security administration's death master file, showing the patterns in which people who are deceased got their numbers. he said it is much easier to narrow down numbers for people born after 1988 when most americans started getting assigned social security numbers at birth. >> you can see the entire nine digits, we can predict with fewer than 1,000 attempts 85% of all issued after 1988. >> reporter: it is even easier to track people born in less populated states. his noint all this. >> social security numbers are very bad passwords. they were not designed to be used the way we are using them now. >> reporter: so the social
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security administration has been cautioning people to stop using the social security as passwords at the bank and other places. officials at the social security administration did not give an interview but said this is a dramatic exaggeration. they said, they will start randomly assigning social securitys next year. >> good idea. given the fact that identity theft is exploding out there. >> this is a firm called aftjavn strategy and research. 9.9 million victims of identity fraud in the united states last year. how much does it cost? $48 billion in losses for you and me. almost $5,000 per person. wolf, you have to protect your social security number and they
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have to start issuing random numbers. they are going to start doing that next year. >> we are getting new information coming into "the situation room" on michael jackson. stand by for that. jim more will be joining us also. passengers on the washington, d.c. subway system are on the lookout for safety violations after a deadly train crash last month and they are going on line with what they find. mr. us, can the ugly fallout from a coup in honduras be solved simply by talking? how zoo keepers are pandering to a 4-year-old panda?
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it looks like another u.s. senator is not going to seek re-election next year. let's go to deb. she is monitoring the story for us. what's going on? >> reporter: wolf, this just in from illinois. senator roland burris has decided not to run for the seat he was appointed to amitt tremendous controversy. burris was appointed by disgraced governor rod blagojevich to replace president obama in the u.s. senate. he fought to keep the seat despite call force his ousting.
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they have had trouble raising funds for an election campaign and he will announce tomorrow that heel not seek election. gm plans a swift journey in and out of bankruptcy. today, a judge's order cleared the way allowing general motors to sell most of its assets to a new company. once gm closes the sale, it could then emerge from bankruptcy protection. it then hopes to create a company with less debt that can better compete globally. less than two weeks after a military coop, the ousted leader and the provisional president are in costa rica. it is unclear how much will be accomplished. both leaders insist that the other cannot be president. the meet willing will take plays at home of costa rican president. a rather unusual party. the guest of honor, 4-year-old panda tai shan.
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he is on loan to the zoo. sounds like a noncaloric cake. two days after michael jackson's memorial, there is mystery about his final resting place. plus, how the jackson family is coping with grief right now. are they able to put their past differences behind them? sacha baron cohen may be topping himself. the comedian and alleged terrorist and a lot more right here in "the situation room."
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new indications michael jackson's family may be considering burying him in the neverland ranch. how difficult would it be to get that kind of permission? is the family all in agreement? they came together for the memorial. what about infighting that is apparently still going on?
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jim more is here to share what he is learning. >> plus, president obama slip ng some key poll categories. his ratings on leader ship, strength and planning all down. how significant is it? i am wolf blitzer, you are in "the situation room." fans mourning the death of michael jackson are wondering where the king of pop will rest in peace? we saw his rose-covered casket at the memorial service but his burial site remains a mystery. lots of speculation centering around his former home, neverland. let's go to ted rowlands. he is out in california taking a closer look into this mystery. what are you learning, ted? >> reporter: well, we know that michael jackson didn't leave any death instruction in the working will. it is up to the family to decide what to do. they are being very close-lipped about it. we know that a representative from the family has contacted
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the state of california about a possible burial at neverland. according to the state, an attorney for the jackson family has inquired about burying michael jackson at neverland ranch, something jermaine jackson told cnn's larry king last week he would like to see happen. >> i would love to see him here. >> do you have a place for him here? >> there is a special place right over near the train station. >> reporter: do bury someone on private land in california, you need a certificate of authority from the state cemetery and funeral bureau. no big deal, just fill out this two-page application and shell out $4 4u7b. the other thing you need is approval from the county, which, in this case, is santa barbara. nobody from the jackson family has contacted the county. if someone does, they say it is possible they will give the okay. >> we have had no formal application, either from the jackson family or from the
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property owner and at that point in time, with he would review the application and make a determination. >> what's unclear is if everyone in the family wants neverland to be jackson's final resting place. joe jackson seemed to shoot it down when asked about it in the days after jackson's death. >> that's not true, that's not true. >> reporter: bottom line here, bofl, is that this has never happened before in santa barbara county. they are prepared to deal with it if they do get a formal application from the jackson's family. from the state's point of view, they say they are prepared to expedite it if and when they get the $400 and the application. ted rowlands working the story. let's get more on what's going on from jim more. jim, the family came together very beautifully after his death two weeks ago. you think it is likely to stay that way or will there be some
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infighting going on? >> reporter: you still haveish crews to settle. the valid that names two exectors, i think those executors will be in charge of the estate. katherine jackson is a beneficiary under that will and trust. the big question is, whether she will be given custody of the two children. we have yet to hear from debbie rowe in an official capacity. there is a court hearing on monday. at that time, we may hear there is an agreement and the children can stay with katherine jackson. when ted was reporting about neverland, michael jackson left neverland ranch in 2005 and he never wanted to go back. there is a big question about whether he would want to be buried there is word that katherine jackson may be opposed to that idea. >> katherine jackson being his mother. they did go to a cemetery before the memorial. what was that all about? it sounded like they were setting the stage for having him
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buried there. that hasn't happened yet. >> there may have been a ceremony of sorts. inside edition did speak with one expert. he suggested that the casket that was brought to the staple's center may not have had michael jackson in it at all but that michael jackson may, in fact, is, in fact, at forest lawn, either on ice, for storage waiting for a permanent resting place or in berry gordy's crypt, because there is some room there and obviously, michael jackson and berry gordy have a long history together. there is some question. there are several reasons why he may not be in his final resting place. the coroner is looking at the brain, jackson's brain, which was taken out for further examination. that takes time. perhaps you want to rejoin that with the body for a final resting place and the decision as to where that final resting place will be may not have been made. >> you will be filling in for
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larry king. tell us about the show and what you will be doing? >> we will be talking about the any allegations of how michael jackson's body was found, the condition, his potential drug use and what arnie klein, the dermatologist said last night. he made some rather startling revelations last night. >> thanks very much, jim more. "larry king live" airs 9:00 p.m. eastern later tonight. you will want to tune in. the house of representatives will not take up a resolution honoring michael jackson. democratic congressman sheila jackson lee had introduced a resolution honoring him as an american legend. nancy pelosi says a formal one might open congress up to criticism. she says jackson was a great performer. lawmakers can express their
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