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whether trips or how they conduct their social media have created cordial but not close situation between the first daughter and first lady. >> kate bennett, the book is "free, melania," and it's a fascinating read. thanks so much for discussing it with us. >> thank you. >> thank you to our international viewers. for you cnn newsroom is next. for u.s. viewers, the house intelligence panel's impeachment report goes public shortly. "new day" continues right now. this is cnn breaking news. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day." tuesday, december 3rd, 8:00 in the east. we have breaking news. president trump is thinking about impeachment. even while on the world stage. the president is in london right now for a meeting of nato leaders. this morning he answered questions for almost an hour with the alliance's leader, secretary-general of nato. president trump once again attacked the impeachment inquiry
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proclaiming his innocence and insisting he'll not accept any form of punishment. >> i bhrd it. now they want to go to censure because they have no case for impeachment. so they want to go to censure. i don't want them to go to censure. i don't mind being censured if you did something wrong. i did nothing wrong. i had a great conversation. very respectful conversation with the president, a good person, by the way. with the president of ukraine. it was flawless. >> president trump, interestingly, also attacked france's president ahead of their one-on-one meeting. that happens in the next hour. that's quite a departure, john, from the body language we used to see among those two men. >> we're just hours away from the american people getting to see the house intelligence committee report which lays out that committee's case, really, to impeach president trump. the document is expected to conclude the president abused his power by pushing ukraine to investigate his rival for political gain. the committee will vote tonight
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to approve the report. they'll send it to the judiciary committee. that panel will hold its first public hearing tomorrow. house republicans are already fighting back. they have a rebuttal to that report, ignoring incriminating evidence against the president. joining me now is independent senator angus king. i have a friend named angus heinz. i've done that to you before. listen. the house republicans put out this report, not just sort of denying the evidence, but also suggesting that it was ukraine. ukraine attacked the united states in the 2016 election. you were more than a bystander here. the senate intelligence committee investigated this. what did you in fact, find on that matter? >> i want to clear one thing up right away. there was no specific hearing or
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briefing on ukraine per se. there's been some reporting on that. i want to clarify that. on the other hand, we must -- i bet i sat through 25 hearings, briefings, meetings, probably more on the question of what happened in 2016. in none of those meetings was there ever a hint, a breath, a suggestion, a word that somehow ukraine was involved in the 2016 election in the interference or the influence campaign. it was russia. and it was russia in a systematic, widespread way, and i think thatwhat's happening ise people in ukraine acted negatively when the president during the campaign said maybe crimea should remain part of russia. that would be like us being angry that somebody else took florida. i mean, it was understandable, but that's been blown up into this somehow that ukraine was involved in the 2016
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interference campaign. it wasn't. >> let me put a fine point on this. which country attacked the united states election system in 2016? >> russia. >> is there any evidence that you saw that there was a top-down effort by ukraine to attack the 2016 election. >> no. >> what do you make of republicans, including the chair of the senate intelligence committee, richard burr, suggesting, and this was to nbc last night, i don't think there's any question that elected officials in ukraine had a favorite in the election. why would they say that? >> because some elected officials in ukraine, as i mentioned, reacted publicly saying they didn't like candidate trump because he suggested that crimea should be left with russia. they were stating their views. that's a lot different than hacking a server, distributing emails through wikileaks and a concerted social media campaign that was run out of moscow and st. petersburg. so, yes, there were ukrainians
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who said they weren't crazy about this guy because he essentially countenanced the dismemberment of their country by russia. but that's a lot different than the campaign that the russians undertook. >> no top-down effort. no systematic effort by the ukrainian government to attack the united states election. such a big difference there, senator. thank you for helping us understand what that difference is. you also have an op-ed in "usa today" which quotes a sherlock holmes story about the dog that didn't bark. explain to me what you mean by that. >> i love -- that's one of my favorite sherlock holmes stories. there was a crime committed at a farm house. sherlock holmes visited. the dog in the barn barked like crazy and then they determined the night of the crime, the dog didn't bark which holmes deduced meant the crime was an inside job. the dog knew who the intruder was. the dog that's not barking in this case are the major figures in the trump administration that could set this matter to rest in
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a matter of minutes. and i'm talking about mick mulvaney, secretary pompeo, john bolton, rudolph giuliani, all of whom if they would go under oath and testify, subject to examination, that nothing happened, nothing of what has been suggested about the president using his office for personal or political gain, they could clear this up. so the point of my op-ed was sometimes silence tells you a lot, and the fact they're not coming forward, and the president won't let them come forward, i think is a matter that needs to be reckoned with. >> in the sherlock holmes story, the silence pointed to an inside job. pointed to guilt. are you suggesting their silence in and of itself is incriminating? >> well, it's certainly raises a serious question. i'm not sure i'd use the word incriminating, but when you add the silence to the fact that they are being told not to come, that raises a question. i know of no legal forum where
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an accused person is allowed to control the witnesses coming before the fact-finding body. in fact, in most situations, an accused person trying to control witnesses is a crime in itself. in this case, the president, he just did it again this morning. said i'm innocent, i did nothing wrong. it was perfect. if that's the case, he should be insisting these people come forward because they could clear him in five minutes. the fact that, a, they aren't coming forward and, b, he's told them not to come forward, to not release documents, to control documents at the state department and within the white house, that's, you know, i'm from maine, and we apply common sense, and common sense tells me in this case, there's something that's being hidden here. >> you have been reluctant to talk to us because you'll be a juror in a senate impeachment trial when it comes to that. but, clearly, you think that something is going on now that is worthy of speaking out. >> well, i've been a conservative on this issue from the very beginning.
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a year and a half ago, two years ago, i've been saying, no, we shouldn't do impeachment. we shouldn't even be talking about it. let the election decide in 2020. this ukrainian business and a direct use of the presidential -- president's power to achieve something of a personal, political gain i think is contrary to my oath to ignore. and so i've supported the fact collecting process. and this is just another part of it. and i don't know what those people will say. but i'm saying, if all is innocent here, there are people who know to a certainty what the president said and did and what he was thinking. let them come forward and tell us. >> let me round this up where we beg began. who wants this sgidea? which leader benefits from the idea it wasn't russia who attacked the u.s. election in 2016, that it was some other country? >> there are two people that
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benefit from that idea. one of them is donald trump and the other is vladimir putin. this whole idea that ukraine was behind the interference in the election, the first i saw of it publicly was putin at a press conference with the president of hungary in february of 2017. this was a month -- less than a month after the president was inaugurated. so this is a russian, i believe, it's a russian disinformation campaign which is, that's something they've been doing for 50 years back in the soviet union days. they're trying to misdirect and blame somebody else. if you don't think the russians did it, go and read the indictments that prosecutor mueller filed against the individuals in russia who did it who they have their name. so there's just no question here. so the answer to your question is trump and putin are the two people who benefit from this theory. >> it's being parrotted by elected u.s. officials which is a notable thing. senator angus king from maine,
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today. and then the house judiciary committee will hold its first public hearing tomorrow. joining us now, chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin, david gregory and global affairs analyst bianna golodryga. it's impossible to get into the head of the president about whether or not he's fixated on this or not. if he wants censure. he says so many different things. what he is saying on the world stage is very different than what -- how past presidents have ever dealt with it. he was saying the democrats are unpatriotic. he used language like that on the world stage and is talking about all of it there this morning. >> that's been from the beginning that, you know, other presidents under investigation have said i'm going to cooperate. you're doing your constitutional duty. i don't believe i did anything wrong. and the way i'm going to show i didn't do anything wrong was by cooperating with the investigation. he has discredited, dismissed the investigation from day one. and he has said that over and over again that his phone call
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was perfect. so that hasn't -- that leaves no room for any sort of compromise or any sort of modulation. so we are where we are. >> the phone call was perfect. the evidence notwithstanding. the testimony from two weeks where we heard from administration insider after insider expressing the content of it and we've also heard from senators like rob portman who didn't like the phone call, like francis rooney, will hurd who said it. when you have the president say i did nothing wrong, not even censure, and this house report, the republican report coming out and saying that the president was perfect in all of his action, there was not a single thing he did wrong there, that might put, i think, some of the republicans who want to say this wasn't perfect in a difficult position. >> i don't think you'll hear many republicans say this wasn't perfect anymore. that was an argument you heard late august and september when we heard more about the details of this call and initial reaction.
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now what you're seeing is the president hasn't budged, and it's worked for him. he, since day one, said this was a perfect call and there was nothing wrong with it. behind closed doors, he was also relaying that to republicans and saying you need to defend me more and go out there and say the same thing. you look at how this has sort of flipped. you're now hearing rumbling within democrats saying maybe we should go with censure or not really knowing how to move forward on this given where the president is and given where republicans are. and given that republicans, especially at least some of the more moderate ones and will hurd after the two weeks of testimony did not move at all. they said they do not believe anything the president did was impeachable and they seem to be protecting the president more than they were prior to these two weeks. >> so where does that leave us, david gregory? >> you know, i think what's remarkable about all of this is we knew what happened in the beginning when the president said, yeah, i made this call and
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there was nothing wrong with it. there's not a lot of mystery. all the set pieces have been so immovable. democrats are enthusiastic about moving forward with impeachment and republicans are against it. the president both attacks the process and relies on republicans on capitol hill to make the argument, to say, there's nothing wrong because nothing happened in the end. the aid flowed to ukraine. there was no document of an investigation. the rest of it is just kind of back room maneuvering, not abuse of power. the public isn't moving. i don't know -- what you see on the part of democrats is a really strong effort putting out videos, putting out a report, holding those hear,s to try to move public 00 that would put pressure on republicans. republicans don't seem to be feeling a lot of pressure. >> and if we could just -- again, trying to talk about the facts here. the president keeps saying this phone call was fine. the phone call was fine. what we saw in this hearing, it was not just one phone call. this was a concerted
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administration effort from a lot of different people to tell the president of ukraine, you are not getting this money. these taxpayer authorized money unless you cooperate with this political endeavor of the president. >> if the public is not moving on this, according to the cnn poll, it's still 50% of americans who want the president impeached and removed. that's a high number. 50% of the american people want you impeached and removed. that's not good, whether it's moving or not. you noted tomorrow's hearing in the judiciary will be your people. >> right. >> academics, law professors, your people -- >> who you know. >> i know all four. i know all the celebrities in the world -- law professors. >> what do you expect them to say? >> three of them appointed, named by democrats, and one, jonathan turley, by republicans. and what i expect the democrats will say is that this behavior is exactly what the framers
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intended to be an impeachable offense because it's something only the president can do. you or i can't cut off aid to ukraine. the only person who has that power, who -- in an unauthorized way is the president. it's an abuse of power and what the republican witness will say is that this is not a crime. it is not bribery. it is not extortion. and, thus, is just sort of the normal give and take of foreign policy and not something we should -- >> and the difference is what we saw from the two weeks worth of testimony from the fact witnesses. a few of them were asked specifically like bill taylor and george kent, do you think what the president did was impeachable? they said that's not our decision to make. we are fact witnesses. we are laying out the case for what we saw transpire vis-a-vis ukraine. what's different now is that you are having experts that can answer that question, whether or not what they witnessed, what
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was described was impeachable. >> and to try to educate the public on just because this is a political process doesn't mean it's not grounded in something that as jeffrey is describing as very important which is a high crime or misdemeanor which is abuse of power that only resides within the power of the presidency that must be checked. and i think there's a debate among democrats now when they get to articles of impeachment, if it goes beyond ukraine. they're thinking about the public relations. there's a larger point to be made. nancy pelosi has made it to say, no president can stand up and say basically, i can do whatever i want. that is the check. whether that finds much resonance with the american people, we'll find out. but it's an important argument to make. the balance there is between that check that lawmakers have, that congress has, versus what the american people have which is an election coming up. so again, the pressure that democrats feel to get these hearings done and to get a vote on the books before christmas. >> i was going to say, quickly,
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i want to go back to the president's megaphone and his time and time again attempt to misinterpret or deliver falsehoods in terms of what transpired and even what president zelensky said in this interview with "time" magazine. this is something democrats should be grasping on as well. he said, oh, look, zelensky said nothing happened. there was no quid pro quo. what stands out from that interview is he said you promised me aid and you withheld that. that is not fair. that's not something an ally or friend does. he's not going to say there was a quid pro quo. doesn't look good or make him look like a strong leader. yes, i was begging for that aid. it's important to differentiate that. >> we want to note the president meets shortly with the french president. >> 40 minutes from now. >> president trump just attacked emmanuel macron in public about comments made over nato. so we'll have to see what happens there. and also you just saw nancy pelosi. why?
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well, quick programming note. jake tapper will host a town hall this thursday at 9:00 eastern only on cnn. this could not come at a more important time. house republicans trying to preempt the intelligence report with their own prebuttal of the democrats who will put out their report today. so what does the prebuttal say when they don't know exactly what the report is going to say? >> they don't know the buttal? what are you saying? >> we're down to the buttal now. ♪
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considerable detail a scheme that began actually well before the recall of ambassador yovanovitch, and was designed to further two political objectives of the president. >> house democrats on the intelligence committee will release their report today making their case for the impeachment against president trump. this comes as house republicans issued a prebuttal before the report of democrats comes out. so joining us to discuss all of this, former democratic congresswoman katie hill who resigned in october amid allegations of an improper relationship with a staff member. katie, it's great to have you here. i've been looking forward to this conversation because you're no longer in congress so you don't have to adhere to any party line. >> it's true. >> how do you think democrats are handling this impeachment? >> listen, i think democrats are playing it by the book. we are doing -- i'm going to continue to say we because
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that's still how i kind of identify, but we are going, you know, down the process the way it's supposed to be done and attempting to hold the president accountable. we'd be derelict in our duty if we didn't uphold the checks and balances in the constitution. this is a perfect example of how the republicans are truly gaslighting the american people and are willing to shirk all responsibilities to the cult that is donald trump. >> what about the notion that democrats are rushing this timeline. why do they have to admere to doing this before christmas? first, the republicans say you can't do it in an election year. republicans are saying, democrats are rushing this. why are they racing to before christmas when they haven't heard from some key witnesses. >> i don't think it's being rushed because i don't think that you'll hear from some of those witnesses. the administration has made it clear they're not going to allow
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those key witnesses to show up. they've done this throughout the past two years where it's been impossible for us to get some of those key witnesses to come forward. so what kind of a battle are you going to be buckling in for if it's just going to be this continued going to court and trying to get them to actually testify. >> i am sorry to interrupt. the process is they haven't played that out. we don't know how long a battle that would be. john bolton and mick mulvaney. it's possible the courts could fast track that. >> we know we were not able to get that to happen with bill barr with any of the others that we're trying to get previously in front of the oversight committee. we know it takes a long time and i don't think it's necessary. we have all the evidence we need to show the misconduct so far. i don't think it matters if it continues out into the election. it's whether we decide this is conduct that is acceptable for a
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future president and that's what the role of impeachment is going to play. it's not about removing the president. it's about saying what is okay moving forward. and at some point we're not going to have donald trump as our president. thank god. but are we going to reset the standards that we have had within american history of what is acceptable for a president to do? and we have to set that standard here. hopefully we won't have a congress that is strictly beholden to their party president and will do the right thing. >> what about public sentiment? i hear what you're saying that there's a higher calling for congress. i understand you're tasked with people in congress are tasked with investigating these sorts of things but what about public sentiment and the fact these two weeks of public hearings didn't budge public polling at all. >> well, i think a couple of things. first, it shows you how fixed public opinion is about the president. i think that, you know, and to me that's scary. i really -- to me, that really
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shows that the republicans have been incredibly effective in just stonewalling and lying. and i don't know what the solution is for that, but i know the propaganda network that is fox is furthering that. the fact that can happen. but what i do believe is that, you know, public perception changes over time. and although it might not have happened from these hearings in the way that we would have liked to see this dramatic shift, what i do think will happen is that the congress will do what it believes is right and public perception will agree or disagree with that. and that's just what we have to do as legislators. this is the right thing. this is what i was elected to do. we're elected every two years. the house of representatives is able to turn over every two years. if the american people do not agree, then they're able to elect a new house of representatives. >> i want to ask you about your personal journey. you left congress, i think you resigned on november 1st after a
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scandal involving a relationship and publication of private photos. and so now, a month later, i'm just wondering what your thoughts are, what your next move is. >> sure. well, first of all, i came out saying that i'm not going away. a huge part of that for me is the people that counted on me, the people who invested their time and money and energy and beliefs in saying that what i was fighting for was something that they felt was important, and that continues. so i am going to be working in a variety of different capacities to continue that effort. you know, i think one of the things that we're looking at soon is establishing a pac so i can be involved in elections moving forward into next year. the fight is so, so important for us to flip the senate, to maintain the majority in the house. and local elections up and down the ballot are going to be critical as well. so i'll be playing a role in that exactly to be defined in the coming months but i'm not going away. and, you know, at the end of the day i've made mistakes, but i
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also don't think that that should, you know, inhibit you from being able to do what you think is important. >> congresswoman katie hill, we really appreciate you taking time to be on "new day." thanks so much. dramatic moments inside a wisconsin high school classroom. we'll tell you about the moment that led a police officer to open fire on a student. that's next. you wouldn't do only half of your daily routine so why treat your mouth any differently? listerine® completes the job by preventing plaque, early gum disease, and killing up to 99.9% of germs.
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in just a few hours, embattled california congressman duncan hunter is expected to change his plea to guilty, admitting he used campaign funds to pay for vacations, video games and more. after spending a year denying it. this is a big shift, nick. >> it is, john. let's start with what prosecutors claim hunter spent this more than a quarter million dollars of campaign funds on. first, we have a bunch of extramarital affairs. he allegedly took a young staffer to a bar in d.c., a couple hundred bucks for drinks and snacks. also took a lobbyist he was involved with to a weekend
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getaway in lake tahoe and right there his wife was involved as well by the way in this. right there you were seeing them on vacation in italy. a $14,000 vacation. they also took breaks to vegas, hawaii, london. also lots of golf, lots of beers, lots of trips to the racetrack. also 300 bucks taken out of an atm on his way to the horse racetrack. a lot of meals from jack in the box and wendy's up to $1,000 tabs at fancy restaurants. also quite money tain stuff. more than $11,000 at costcos and school lunches and tuition. 12,000 -- $1200 i'm sorry, for a new garage door and also performance at riverdance at the san diego civic center. he has been denying everything. he kind of threw his wife under the bus. he's been saying this is a deep state plot. now he is coming clean and he explained why to our affiliate
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kusi. >> oh, well, apparently we don't have that. i trust you that he explained it and i will say we're at a time your recitation of the allegations took more time than we have. the show is only three hours long. and that list goes on and on and on. it really is remarkable. and riverdance on top of it all. >> yeah. and so he says, john, that he doesn't want his kids to go through a trial but his wife did already plead guilty. she might have flipped on him at a trial. and also there could be politics at play. he narrowly won in 2018 with all this hanging over his head. doesn't look like he'll stand again and he says president trump right now needs all the support he can get. >> nick watt for us in los angeles. i believe that two republican congressmen who endorsed president trump first, chris collins and duncan hunter pleading guilty to federal crimes. >> who knew that being a congressman could be so lucrative and luxurious.
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>> that list was incredible. new details this morning about a shooting at a wisconsin high school. a student pulled a gun in a classroom and then shot by a police officer. cnn's omar jimenez has the latest. what happened, omar? >> yeah, this was a 17-year-old student who police say pointed a gun at officers before he was shot inside a high school classroom in the milwaukee suburb of waukesha. this happened at waukesha north high school. a school resource officer responded to the classroom after one student reported a classmate with a handgun. that resource officer was trying to get other students to safety as other officers responded. attempting to have a conversation with this student. police say the student would not take his hands out of his pockets and when he did, he pulled a handgun, pointed it at the officers. one of them opened fire. they had to render medical aid shortly after. that student is in stable condition. the entire school pout lout on
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lockdown and no other students injured. just a few hours later, another report of a student with a handgun. this time a 15-year-old at waukesha north high school just across town in that case. now the school was put on lockdown just again like it was before. but the student was not found on the property. officers responded to his home where that student was talken in taken into custody. >> omar, thank you for that reporting. the highly anticipated report on the origins of the russia investigation is expected to be released. is attorney general bill barr again trying to spin the results of a report before it is released? team building the most powerful 5g experience for america. it's 5g ultra wideband-- --for massive capacity-- --and ultra-fast speeds. almost 2 gigs here in minneapolis. that's 25 times faster than today's network in new york city. so people from midtown manhattan-- --to downtown denver-- --can experience what our 5g can deliver. (woman) and if verizon 5g can deliver performance like this in these places...
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associate he's disagrees with the justice department's inspector general on one of the key findings in an upcoming report that the fbi had enough information in july 2016 to justify launching an investigation into members of the trump campaign. in other words, he'll disagree with one of the key findings the inspector general will come out with. joining me is andrew mccabe, the former deputy director of the fbi. i want to make clear to our audience, you cannot talk about the contents of the ig report. the details of what's inside it. you are legally bound not to because you have reviewed portions of it because you were interviewed for it. however, you can talk about "the washington post" story this morning which is that the attorney general of the united states will apparently disagree with one of the key findings that has been reported inside the report that the fbi investigation was properly predicated. what does it mean that the attorney general disagrees with that? >> well, it's really
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fascinating, john. i can say in the course of my -- the entirety of my experience in the fbi, i dealt with many reports from investigators and from the ig's office. and i have never seen an attorney general essentially preempt the conclusions of an ig report. but this attorney general, with this attorney general, it seems oddly familiar. the report in "the washington post" really kind of takes us back to the way the attorney general handled the release of the mueller report last summer. in an effort to kind of, as the military says, prepare the battlefield as it were to plant his own conclusions and impressions about director mueller's work before the country had the opportunity to read the report and consider the conclusions for himself. so in this case, it appears that he's doing the exact same thing with an ig report which is just
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remarkable. as i said, unprecedented in my own experience. >> and we have seen from reports that this is an extensive report. this is hundreds of pages long here. you can't go into the details, but the fact that the attorney general would choose to take issue with something here given the comprehensive nature of it is pretty interesting. >> well, it is. and i can say that the report, at least the portions that i saw, were consistent with what you've described. it's an enormous piece of work. it likely includes the result of hundreds of interviews, probably thousands of man hours of attorneys and investigators' work product. they had extraordinary access to fbi materials, documents to the personal correspondences and communications of all of the individuals involved in the investigation, the russia investigation and the fbi. so for the attorney general to
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try to undermine conclusions that are based on that massive tranche of evidence is going to be a very tough hurdle for him to get over. and i would say he's going to need to produce some contrary evidence, which is almost -- that's going to be a tough thing for him to do. >> he's got a whole other investigation. he's got a backup plan. the dura investigation which is looking into the intelligence communities as well as the fbi. do you think that's where he might be headed? >> it certainly could be. there's a difference between the authority that a special counsel has in the case of mr. durham. he has the authority that's been given to him by the attorney general to kind of include in his inquiry the work of the intelligence community, things like that. it's very different than an ig. the justice department ig is limited in his review only to the decisions and the acts of individuals who are part of the department of justice. so there could be a difference in scope there. but again, it will be really
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interesting to see whatever conclusions are drawn from durham's effort. i find it hard to believe they'll come up with much that the ig hasn't already considered. >> i want to ask you about something else in the news that involves someone that you worked with closely and that's lisa page who came out in this public interview in the daily beast explaining what it has been like to be under the spotlight and under the glare and suffer the ire of president trump. as she writes, my heart drops to my stomach when i realize he has tweeted about me again. the president of the united states is calling me names to the entire world. it's sickening but it's also very intimidating because he's still the president of the united states. when the president accuses you of treason by name, despite the fact i know there's no fathomable way i've committed any crime at all, let alone treason, he is still somebody in a position to actually do something about that. now you haven't spoken to lisa page in a long time for other reasons, correct? >> that's correct. >> but what do you make of her
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comments here? >> so i did read the article. i have to say that her comments about the impact of the president's personal attacks really resonated with me. and you know, john, i think that there are many people that are drawing that same conclusion. the list of government employees, government servants who did their duty and who now have become the focus of the president's personal direct attacks, that list is growing every day. we recently saw colonel vindman and fiona hill and ambassador yovanovitch added to that list. it is striking. i can tell you as someone who has endured those types of attacks for over two years now, it is disorient. it's intimidating, and it really, you know, it shakes your very understanding of how government servants in the executive branch think of and interact with their leader, the
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president of the united states. it's just -- it's impossible even to describe how insane that is. and i would also add, i think lisa's comments also draw another important point that the president frequently saves his most vicious and hurtful attacks for women. i've seen that in my own situation in the way that he's attacked my own wife, called her corrupt and leveled all sorts of baseless lies against her as well. it's really concerning and awful. >> andrew mccabe, thanks for being with us this morning. on a much kinder note, this is "giving tuesday." and we want to show you how easy it is to support this year's top ten cnn heroes as they keep doing their important work. so anderson cooper is here to explain. >> i'm anderson cooper. each of this year's cnn heroes proves that one person really can make a difference.
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very good tuesday morning. i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm poppy harlow. another big week post-thanksgiving. in minutes the president will meet with french president emmanuel macron just hours after he called macron's comments on nato dangerous, nasty and insulting. taking aim at a key ally while seeming to stick up for the organization that he himself has criticize forward years. trump and macron set to speak before cameras. you'll see it here. >> while the president is on the world stage, the impeachment threat ramping up back home. he keeps up his attacks on the process from abroad.


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