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there, straight out of facebook and the ceo mark zuckerberg. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you very much for being with me here in new york. we're going to send it to washington now. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. thanks, brooke. president trump saying today, quote, it's frankly disgusting the way the press is able to write whatever they want to write and people should look into it. well, i have looked into it and you might want to start looking into it, too, mr. president. "the lead" starts right now. breaking news. north korea making a direct threat to the u.s., saying an insane president trump, quote, lit the wick of war, and now the world brace for the next tweet. how do powerful accused sexual predators such as harvey weinstein keep getting away with their despicable acts? the author of the possibly culture changing "new yorker" expo expose -- wildfires that have now
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killed 21 people across the state of california as families frantically search for the hundreds reported missing. good afternoon, everyone. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin this afternoon with the world lead. the nuclear standoff with north korea reaching another alarming level just a short time ago. north korea's foreign minister declaring that president trump's, quote, insane warning at the united nations, quote, lit the wick of war. moments ago, president trump denied that he wants to increase the u.s. nuclear stockpile as had been reported, but he did say the stockpile must be in perfect condition. >> we won't need an increase, but i want modernization and i want total rehabilitation. it's got to be in tip top shape. >> briefed yet again by defense secretary james mattis and joseph dunford. meanwhile, american b-1 bombers
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conducted mock missile launches along the korean peninsula yesterday. cnn's barbara starr begins our coverage live from the pentagon. >> reporter: b-1 bombers flying in a show of force over the pacific. sending the message just one more time to kim jong-un that the u.s. is ready to move against him if it comes to that. president trump met again with national security officials to review what the white house calls a range of options to respond to any form of north korean aggression or, if necessary, to prevent north korea from threatening the united states and its allies with nuclear weapons. but when asked if he is on the same page as secretary of state rex tillerson -- >> i think i have a little bit different attitude on north korea than other people might have. and i listen to everybody, but ultimately my attitude is the one that matters, isn't it? >> reporter: the north korean foreign policy minister telling
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the russian state run tass news agency president trump lit the wick of war when he spoke to the u.n. >> rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. >> pentagon officials say there will be more u.s. military shows of force. three aircraft carries could be training together in the region as early as next month. as president-elect donald trump called for expanding the nuclear arsenal in a tweet last december. the united states must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes. but increasing the nuclear fleet would be hindered by arms control limits and the billions of dollars in costs, and many say it's just not needed. >> there is really no difference between delivering one nuclear device or ten nuclear devices on the same target. that target will be obliterated
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regardless. >> reporter: experts say it's more important to fix the weapons on-hand. >> what should have been addressed by the president is the quality of the nuclear weaponry that we have right now. we have some issues when it comes to sustainability, reliability, and kwaecquite fra usability. >> reporter: several defense officials tell the cnn the pentagon is working on highly classified cyber war plans against the regime. north korea may already be fighting back. the north allegedly hack flood south korean systems holding the critical war plans involving the u.s., including destroying the north's regime leadership. the pentagon will only say current war plans are secure. >> and also in cyber space, a u.s. cyber security firm is reporting that hackers affiliated with north korea tried to get into the u.s.
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electric power companies last month. the reports are that they were not successful in disrupting the power supply, but it does underscore the path north korea is on. jake? >> barbara starr, thank you so much. this all comes as we're learning new details about a tense meeting over the summer between president trump and his national security team, after which sources say secretary of state rex tillerson called the president a, quote, moron. cnn's jeff zeleny has that story from the white house. >> reporter: president trump welcoming canadian prime minister justin trudeau to the white house today. >> thank you all very much. i very much appreciate it. we are here with a man who has become a friend of mine. >> reporter: the president and the prime minister were all smiles, unlike mr. trump has been with some of his own top advisers, like secretary of state rex tillerson. it's been one week since reports first surfaced that tillerson referred to the president as a moron after a national security meeting this summer. cnn has learned the president was infuriated when he learned about the remark and has been
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fuming behind closed doors ever since. today, the president had this to say about his top diplomat. >> we have a very good relationship. the press really doesn't understand that, but that's okay. we actually have a very good relationship. >> reporter: yet, in the next breath, the president also made clear he sees the nuclear threat with north korea differently, particularly in balancing a diplomatic and military response. asked if he was on the same page as tillerson, the president said this. >> i think i have a little bit different attitude on north korea than other people might have. and i listen to everybody, but ultimately my attitude is the one that matters, isn't it? that's the way it works. that's the way the system is. >> reporter: it's that attitude that worries some of the president's advisers and members of congress, like senate foreign relations committee chairman bob corker, who said he fears trump was leading the u.s. on a path to world war iii. >> i think i might have a somewhat different attitude and a different way than other people. i think perhaps i feel stronger
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and tougher on that subject than other people. >> reporter: the president also dismissed an nbc news report today that said he called for increasing the u.s. nuclear arsenal by ten times the amount of current levels. >> no, i never discussed -- i think somebody said i want ten times the nuclear weapons that we have right now. right now, we have so many nuclear weapons. i want them in perfect condition, perfect shape. that's the only thing i've ever discussed. >> reporter: but cnn has learned the july 20th meeting at the pentagon that led to the moron comment was difficult and tense. today, the president said he hasn't called for expanding nuclear capacity, which he actually has done several times. during the transition, he tweeted, the united states must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time the world comes to its senses regarding nukes. now, jake, that is one of the underlying issues here. some white house advisers and elsewhere throughout the government wonder if the president has a grasp on nuclear weapons, among other things, particularly what would be
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involved in increasing them. those are guided by international guidelines and they've been reducing them, you know, over the last decades or so, but the president in that meeting in the oval office today said i understand this. was making clear that he knows them. jake, that tense meeting at the white house, that is -- the pentagon this summer on july 20th, that is one of the reasons here that led to that comment. it's one of the reasons that people still question his grasp of all of this. y jake? >> jeff zeleny at the white house. thank you so much. so should congress be concerned about president trump's, quote, different attitude on north korea from his own administration officials? we'll talk to one republican lawmaker next. stay with us. when you're close to the people you love, does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, you can embrace the chance of completely clear skin with taltz.
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adam kinzinger. he service on the house foreign affairs committee and fought if both iraq and afghanistan. congressman, good to see you. the foreign relations chairman in the senate, senator bob corker question the president's fitness for office essentially and said mr. trump, in his view is taking us, the nation, down the path of world war iii. he expressed this is a sentiment privately expressed by almost every senator. is this something you've heard from your colleagues in the house? >> no, actually i haven't, to be honest with you. i think this trump/corker feud is weird to me. i don't know what it sparked from. i don't agree with bob corker, though, we're on a path to world war iii. i don't agree with all of his statements and tweets necessarily on this, but think the way he's handling north korea is actually really good because you finally have a stick being shown, a stick option to back up the potential for a carrot and get a diplomatic solution to this thing. up until now and his audience, frankly, isn't kim jong-un, his audience is the chinese, the russians, the people that use
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basically the slave labor from north the that import material to them and buy goods from them, is that this is serious. we're taking it seriously. and we need to handle this diplomatically. >> we've heard republicans say that there really isn't a military option that is viable without tens of thousands if not millions of people being killed in both north korea and south korea. steve bannon said something like that to the american prospect on his way out the door from the white house. the chief of staff of the u.s. army said this week, quote, there are no good, easy, you know, risk-free options here. you have served in combat kbat. you have visited south korea recently. at what point do you think any, if any, military intervention would be justified? just a threat to the u.s. or its allies, an actual attack, what would north korea need to do for you to think that it was okay for there to be military intervention by the u.s.? >> well, i think it's tough, like, what's the trigger point? i think firing rockets over
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japan, we can, you know, figure out their trajectory when it's shot. putting rockets over our allies and saying you have the ability to miniaturize a nuclear warhead now and they do. they haven't perfected reentry on intercontinental ballistic missiles yet, but that's coming. what you have here is different than what you had in india and pakistan. you have nuclear weapons. you have a regime that says they're going to use them and a regime that throws them all over the place, making us think they might be willing to use it. what is that trigger point? it's hard to put out there. i think the national security establishment that knows way more details than i do can pick that. the very worst case scenario, military is a bad case scenario, the worst case scenario is a nuclear north korea with the ability to shoot more missiles than we can handle in terms of defending an intercept. >> cnn has learned that north korean hackers or hackers affiliated with north korea stole classified military documents from a south korean debate base in december, 2016. the stolen documents included
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the south korea/u.s. war time plans and a document that includes procedures to, quote, decapitate the north korean leadership. that must be very concerning for you. >> yeah, absolutely. all of these hacks, whether it's into our security establishment, south korea, the north koreans are good at cyber, cyber attacks, cyber offense. we saw this with the stealing of the hacking in hollywood they did. yeah, it's very concerning. we can move war plans, we can change them, we can put new plans in place, i assume that's been done and being done, but it does give the enemy an insight into, you know, how we would go about a military option potentially. so i think, look, on all of these things, you know, why we continue to have hacks and how adversaries can continue to get into what should be very secure servers and information storage is something that a government, we've got to quit saying we're going to look into it, we've got to really do something. i'm not a security expect, so i don't know what that thing is, but we've got to do something to make sure we're not going to continually have our national security apparatus of us or or allies interfered with.
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>> tomorrow, president trump's expected to decertify the nuclear deal with iran. the chairman of the house foreign relaces committee, ed royce, says that the deal, although he had issues with it when it was started, should stay in place. just need to have it be enforced. what's your position? do you agree with chairman royce or are you ready to vote for new sanctions on iran, thus invalidating the whole deal? >> so the president from what i understand is not going to tear up the deal and pull out. he's going to decertify and that gives us an opportunity to reimpose sanctions or hopefully bring the europeans or potentially iranians on board for a better deal that makes sense. the iaea is getting samples from iran that they send in themselves. the russians are demanding they be present or we can't inspect military sites. there are a lot of loopholes to this. i want to see what the president lays out. i've been briefed on some of it. i think you're going to see a comprehensive strategy from iran that is more than the this nuclear deal. from what i understand, think
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the whole thing makes sense. i'll be interested to see how the president articulates that when he does. we can have real conversations. right now, it's just pieces coming out. >> all right. republican congressman adam kinzinger, always good to see you, thanks. a growing death toll, hundreds reported missing and entire neighborhoods turning into charred wreckage. and high winds could ignite more danger. the wildfires of california, that story's next.
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find your awesome with xfinity xfi and change the way you wifi. and we're back with some breaking news in the national lead. hundreds are now reported missing. home after home almost vapor rise. shifting winds making it difficult for firefighters to get the upper hand as they battle those horrific wildfires in california. the state of california now reporting 21 deaths relate to these fires. look what first responders are up against. this is the view from a deputy's dash cam earlier this week in sonoma county. this is what's left of some
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neighborhood, practically nothing. this is the coffey park neighborhood in santa rosa, california. destroyed everything that wasn't steel, concrete or brick. cnn's miguel marquez is live for us in napa. as evacuations expand, are californians heeding the warnings to leave? >> reporter: they are heeding the warnings, and those warnings are only getting bigger. you were talking about coffey park in santa rosa. that's about 30 miles from where i'm standing right here. this is one of 3,500 businesses or homes that have been destroyed across a swath of california from just north of san francisco to the oregon border. i want to give you a sense of what it sounds like as i walk through this stuff. it is terrible the way all of this stuff has been absolutely destroyed. here's the problem, 607 people in sonoma county alone, this is napa county, sonoma county is just over there, 607 people reported missing there. they reported they found 110 so far, but the problem is people had to get out so quickly. the winds blowing around 75 miles per hour. people didn't have time to
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think. they grabbed what they could and left. the police are only finding people who have died because they happen to be in the neighborhood, not when somebody has called, not because they got a call, or heard someone is there, they happened upon them. there is great concern the death toll in this fire will go up and up. here is even the bigger problem, while we had a respite yesterday, this afternoon, they are predicting winds up to 45-mile-per-hour gusts in this area. the fire is just in the hills back there. it is coming this way. any place that is south of those fires, they are starting to evacuate now. there is great concern that the lines they've been building, the attempts to protect structures in the area will not hold. they are completely in this part of the world at the mercy of the wind tonight. jake? >> horrific story. miguel marquez, thank you so much. multiple women have now come forward accusing harvey weinstein, the film producer, of everything from sexual
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book now. we're back with our pop culture lead now. the fallout from the harvey weinstein sexual assault scandal continues to widen today as we hear from even more accusers whose allegations suggest a staggering wide-ranging reign of harassment and even rape by the film producer. the new york district attorney is defending his decision not to press charges against weinstein back if 2015 after an actress accused him of groping her and wore a wire to record another encounter with weinstein. cy vance telling reporters today, that wire was not enough. >> i understand that folks are outraged by his behavior. i understand that there are many other allegations that have surfaced, but in our case, we really did i think what the law obligates us to do. if we had a case we felt we could prosecute and my experts
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felt we could prosecute against harvey weinstein, we would have. >> weinstein's wife, moreover, has issued a statement say she is leaving him, while the board of the weinstein company says it will soon have a new name for the company. bob weinstein called his brother, quote, a very sick man and a world class liar who is looking to blame others. here to talk more about the story is ronan farrow, he's the author of the expose that ran in "the new yorker" in which 13 women told him they had been sexually assaulted, harassed or even raped by roan. thanks for being here. >> good to be here. >> we know for decades reporters have been trying to get this story into print. you finally did. how is it that a story with such enormous a scope, such horrific really human rights violations didn't come to public light until now because of you and "the new york times"? >> i mean, look, these women describe obviously horrific allegations. they really tore their guts out,
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jake, telling these stories. they had nothing to gain and everything to lose. they were all terrified to do this. that terror, i think, speaks to the question you're asking. again and again, they said they feared retaliation. they talked about a vast machine, a legal apparatus that locked them into restrictive nondisclosure agreements in return for payouts, a pr apparatus that smeared some of these women. it is perhaps not coincidental several of them said in the case you highlighted of ms. gutierrez, several items began to appear as the d.a. was considering this case about her sexual history, her past in italy. >> yeah. these stories, they're really human rights abuses. as the reporter that uncovered so many of them, what was the most horrific part of this for you? >> you know, i want to highlight one story in particular. this italian actress told a really horrific story of a rape, and, you know, very credible. wouldn't be reading this in "the new yorker" if it hadn't checked
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out to the ennth degree. she went back afterwards. she went back to her alleged attacker. that was a source of tremendous shame for a lot of these women, that he was immeshed in their professional lives. they continued to be afraid that made them submit to him. that is a facet of sexual assault and harassment that often is very real. >> and speaking of her, i want to play a clip of a movie directed by her. she is one of the people, as you note, who accuses weinstein of ra rape, weinstein saw this clip and recognized this as based on what happened between them. let's run a little bit of that. >> it would be great if you give me a massage. a little massage to make me just relax. then i can read that little story of yours, you know, the scarlet diva thing. >> little massage? >> yeah, yeah, just a couple of minutes. come on, please? >> i'm sorry, i don't understand. >> no, no, it will be fine.
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just a couple of minutes. >> so he tries to entice these women into just an innocent massage and then from there gets horrific. >> and, jake, you know, she talked about how not only did weinstein she said come up to her and say, i recognize myself, haha, very funny. she said woman after woman, including other actresses came up to her and said they recognized that pattern of behavior. that's how she came to the conclusion in her words that this was a modus operandi. >> you know, the board of the weinstein company, which includes harvey's brother, bob, said the allegations were an utter surprise to them. but when you read your story and "the new york times" story and it's part of the culture obviously at the weinstein company. staff members were clearly part of it. do you buy it? do you believe that bob weinstein and the board of directors had no idea this was going on? >> there were 16 former and current executives and assistants who spoke to me who
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corroborated these allegations. said they personally witnessed things they were troubled by or participated in what they described as a pattern of meetings which were thin cover for predatory advances on young women. this was very immeshed in company business. again and again they said everybody knew, you know? and, you know, i can't speak to what bob weinstein knew or didn't know without extensive reporting about that, but i can say there were a lot of people in this piece saying they knew and felt guilty about not speaking out. >> an attorney for mr. weinstein released an article saying, quote, any allegations of nonconsensual sex are unequivocally denied by harvey weinstein. never any acts of retaliation against any women for refusing his advances. with respect to women who madals on the record, mr. weinstein believes all of these relationship were consensual, unquote. might weinstein, do you think, face some legal action in the wake of this story. >> look, this was a "new yorker" piece. he had a very fair opportunity to comment and give input and
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begin discussions about this piece. he said this was not consensual, the women tell a very different story, and we have seen in previous cases of this kind that, you know, at this point, after the revelations come, there are decisions in the hands of these women. i'm not going to speak to specific legal or other remedies that are available to them. i know i'm still talking to a large number of these women and that they continue to be committed to, you know, exposing a culture of silence around this. >> you mentioned earlier the smearing of the italian model who went to the police after he allegedly assaulted her. i want to talk to you about the media complicity in this outrageous story. in 2015, specifically "the new york post" dedicated its cover to smearing the actress i mentioned earlier, ambra gutierrez, accusing harvey weinstein of molestation tried to score a movie role. we ran a picture of the tabloid
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cover. that's one of the many, many attacks on her that appeared in the press after she accused weinstein. the media, some in the media, not everyone in the media, but the media really played a role in serving as harvey weinstein's enforcer and some of the media are responsible for this happening, this continuing to happen. they have -- they have assault and rape on their hands, in my view. >> so, you know, in the story itself there is a young woman named emily nester who did a very brave thing going on the record, and she said she actually witnessed a case of this transpiring in realtime, where mr. weinstein was enraged about a dispute that was happening with one of his -- an actress in one of his films in the press and was, you know, talking about planting stories, she said. in a threatening way, she felt, told her, watch the news cycle. there will be negative items about my opponents in this. indeed, there were. he came by her desk at the company after this alleged sexual harassment and said, did you see? and that is something that was
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tremendously frightening to a lot of these women, jake, and absolutely is a huge part of this story. >> now, you reported this originally for nbc news, but you ultimately took it to the "the new yorker" to find a media outlet that would run it. an nbc sort told "the daily beast," quote, he brought nbc news early reporting that didn't meet the standard to go forward with the story. at that time, he didn't have one accuser willing to go on the record or identify themselves. the story he published is radically different than nbc news. that seems like a real lie to me. my understanding is why the story was at nbc, you had three named women, the full nypd audio and every one of the quoted executives and employees you referenced in your story, you had them all. what's the truth here? >> look, jake, you understand this, these are human rights abuses, as you said. these are women coming forward with a very, very hard set of stories and i really want the focus to be on them and what they did and continuing their fight.
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you know, look, the media piece of this is a conversation that can unfold over time. i've already spoken as of last night on the rachel maddow show. i was confronted with a question i didn't expect. nbc is no longer claiming i brought this story to them. it was assigned at nbc, they've talked about how long it was there and the fact there was a lot while it was there. i truly do think it's very important for us to stay focused on the women here. >> all right. i can't disagree with that. ronan farrow, thank you so much for your time. thanks for the ebbs lebt reporting. i appreciate it. is president trump taking his media name calling a step further? now he's actually threatening action. that's next. ♪ can i kick it? ♪ yes you can ♪ can i kick it? ♪ yes you can ♪ can i kick it? ♪ yes you can ♪ well i'm gone ♪ can i kick it? ♪ to all the people who can quest like a tribe does... ♪
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we're back with our politics lead. now president trump suggesting earlier that media outlets that report critically on him should be punished. he tweeted today, quote, with all fake news coming out of nbc and the networks, at what point is it time to challenge their license? bad for the country. this comes after an nbc news report that the white house and secretary mattis call false that the president, quote, wanted what amounted to a nearly ten-fold increase in the u.s. nuclear arsenal. my political panel is here to discuss this with me and much, much more. am i overreading this? i'm going to take this seriously but not literally that he actually thinks there should be some sort of way that the media companies can be punished or their licenses can be taken away if they report critically on him. am i being unfair? >> that's what it sounded like. that's now how this works. that's not how any of this works. i suppose he's referring to broadcast licensing. we can all get access to many
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forms. >> people are on the internet now. >> it's not allowed at all to discriminate those licenses based on the content of the programming because of free speech and all that good stuff. >> it's astounding, but it's almost like we don't even -- if president obama said that about fox news and he certainly was harsh about fox news, but if he said something about taking away their licenses, i can't imagine. >> the world would explode. president trump is not really known as a big free speech advocate, actually. he's talked about wanting to change libel laws. he thinks that, you know, yeah, i do think he think if you say something critical about him, he should be able to sue you and has a pretty -- an unusual position for somebody who is in the republican party today, right? this is not the conservative position today on free speech. it's become an issue that conservatives take pretty seriously. >> he has a transactional relationship with freedom of speech, as he does with so many other things. like, if this is bugging me at the moment, i don't like it.
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get it out of here. >> take a listen to president trump this afternoon. >> and it's frankly disgusting the way the press is able to write whatever they want to write. >> now, speaking of people who write whatever they want to right, i mean, president trump was -- he wrote something false on his twitter feed today about the nfl and the reason why they're not imposing -- their stance on the national anthem. he doesn't seem to understand that the biggest purveyor of false news, fake news, is him. and it just blows my mind that he thinks, like, well they shouldn't be able to print this, but i can say and print whatever i want. >> yeah, i think there are two parts here often one side doesn't recognize the other. the president and the press can lose credibility and have credibility to give away and too often are giving it away on both sides. i don't even mind the president as a media critic and taking some shots every now and then. think many in america don't mind that now and again. sometimes we get things wrong
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and sometimes we don't admit it. this is when you go too far. you can't punish them and people can write whatever they want. that's how this works. >> turning to what he said today about the nfl, he tweeted, it is about time that roger goodell of the nfl is finally demanding that all players stand for our great national anthem, respect our country. now, the nfl is disputing that the president's tweet is a correct interpretation of what they're doing. it's not happening. at least not as of now. there is something that they're going to unveil to team owners. but there are those who say that the president by getting team owners and goodell to kind of hug and lean towards the flag and the anthem and against the demonstrations during the anthem, that he's won this chapter in the culture war, the battle in the culture war. do you agree? >> i -- go ahead. >> i think we're all losing. >> just because we're all being divided? >> yeah, but, look, i do think his was -- as often, his gut
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oichkt is corre instinct is correct that people react viscerally to a protest that happens with the flag and the anthem, even though there is another part to it. he is right, a group of people, millions of people he was speaking for in part of that. the nfl, think, is probably going to overcorrect and tick off all the people who weren't ticked off already because the nfl is bad at doing things and roger goodell is bad at doing things. >> also, think it's important to remember that donald trump i don't think really cares that much about the patriotism and the flag. we've seen the way he talks about some patriots in our country, john mccain -- >> like john mccain, yeah. >> that's not really what this is about. this is a culture war he saw he could get in the middle of and he could, you know, win over his base and make his base happy. i don't believe he personally cares one way or the other about the fact that -- about the national anthem. and i also think there is no -- there is no way that these players could protest, even if it didn't involve the national anthem, that donald trump would be okay with, right? if they waited and did it after the anthem and say they decided to come out and just put their
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fists up and say something, are we supposed to believe donald trump would say, that's great. he would find a way to have another problem with it. >> interesting comments from mr. barrack, a close friend to mr. trump. he's been called the trump whisperer. he spoke at the convention. he said this to the "washington post," quote, trump things he has to be loyal to his base. i keep saying, who is your base, you don't have a natural base, the base is now the world and america. show them who you really are. in my opinion, he's better than this. meaning he's better than what we're seeing. barrack also said he was shocked and stunned by some of the president's rhetoric and tweets. this is one of the president's closest friends. he's been talked about theoretically as possibly a new chief of staff, if kelly leaves. do you see this as something of an intervention? what is this? >> well, it does seem interesting that a lot of these folks are going to the press and saying these kinds of things and he's, of course, a very close friend. he's famous for the fact he can disagree with the president and remain a close friend. i guess we'll see because the end of that is that he's better
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than this, seems like something that might tick president trump off. but i think he's a valuable person to have if he can indeed disagree with him and stay a close friend. he needs someone like that. >> it seems like a pretty shocking thing for a good pretend to say to the "washington post." not to be overheard saying it, not saying to president trump. he's better than this. >> i have to ask myself, is he better than this? what's the evidence he's better than this? d in the article i don't feel he offered anything. he referred to donald trump being seen as this selfish, self-involved person, how did he manage to be friends with him for so long? he doesn't need anything to minimum and always subservient to him. i didn't see him painting another picture. who is the real donald trump that we're not seeing? i don't understand. >> that's a good question. >> will the real slim shady, please, stand up. >> barrack said, quote, i tell him all the time, i don't like the rhetoric. if the president is not listening presumably to ivanka trump and not listening to tom
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barrack, one of his oldest and dearest friends. not listening to former marine general john kelly quite often. is there anyone he listens to? >> i think that's been the question. when kelly came into the administration, get was, look, can he put some more order into different ways that the administration does something? sure. can you fundamentally change this human being? i doubt it. and the key is to have somebody in the room who can disagree with him and that he might actually listen to. i'm not convinced there is that person, even tom barrack. >> final thought? >> yeah, i think that he -- he's doing what he does to get his hit from his base, right? and so something has to change. where someone can convince him he can get the attention he craves from someone else. right now there is a certain part of the population that likes what he's doing and a certain part of the population that doesn't. he's going to continue to cater to those people. >> the majority of the population is the majority that doesn't like what he's doing. all right. great job. thanks so much, mary katherine and kirsten powers. a major change coming to the
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boy scouts of america. kyle: mom! mom!
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kyle, we talked about this. there's no monsters. but you said they'd be watching us all the time. no, no. no, honey, we meant that progressive would be protecting us 24/7. we just bundled home and auto and saved money. that's nothing to be afraid of. -but -- -good night, kyle. [ switch clicks, door closes ] ♪ i told you i was just checking the wiring in here, kyle. he's never like this. i think something's going on at school. -[ sighs ] -he's not engaging.
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we're back with our national lead. and just into cnn, the haunting radio call to hotel dispatch the night of the las vegas massacre. mgm hotel stephen schuck describing shots fired as he hides. take a listen. >> call the police. someone's firing a gun up here. someone's firing a rifle on the 32nd floor down the hallway. >> base to 106 stephen. they want know if you know a room? >> it's at the end of the hallway. i can't -- i can't tell you what room. he looked like he fired down the hallway when i got close to the door. >> the casino released this audio to cnn on the heels of a
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potential face-off between mgm and law enforcement over recent shift in the timeline by law enforcement. earlier this week, police said a hotel security guard discovered and was shot by the shooter six minutes before he opened fire into the concert crowd, not as was originally reported as the shooting was started. saying, we cannot be certain about the most recent timeline that has been communicated publicly and we believe what is currently being expressed may not be accurate, unquote. law enforcement pushing back now with a source close to the investigation telling cnn's kyung lah, quote, our timeline is pretty accurate with all the facts known, unquote. now to politics, and the government now resting its federal corruption case against democratic senator bob menendez of new jersey. private jet rides and swanky vacations to the dominican republic and paris from a wealthy eye doctor friend. in exchange, prosecutors say menendez used his position to
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push the federal government to take actions that would benefit the doctor, whom the federal government alleges owed them almost $9 million in a billing dispute. cnn's laura jarrett has been following this trial from the beginning. she joins me live from the white house in newark, new jersey. laura, what's the most damning evidence as they g into make their case. >> reporter: well, jake, after 18 days of testimony and 35 different witnesses, some of the most striking evidence to date has been the senator's own words. as you mentioned, the prosecutor's theory here is that menendez put his thumb on the scale, trying to pressure different federal officials to weigh in on this $8.9 million billing dispute to help mehim o. worked with his staff behind the scenes, including a 2009 e-mail in which menendez directed his then chief of staff to, quote, find out and determine who has
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the best juice at the department of health and human services. now, prosecutors love this e-mail because they say it shows his corrupt intent in this whole bribery scheme. the defense attorneys say he did nothing wrong here and this was actually part of a larger concern that menendez had about policy issues concerning overbilling practices at the department of health and human services. >> you know, what's interesting in this trial and others like it is what is legal and what isn't legal in a system where politicians are constantly grubbing for money and doing favors for donors and constituents and where does a quid pro quo happen and where does it not? where can one not be proven? the jong last week suggested he was being careful to not repeat the bob mcdonald case, the former virginia governor, where the supreme court threw out mcdonald's bribery conviction. how could this case resemble that in a real concrete way?
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>> reporter: yeah, jake. the judge has really zeroed in on the mcdonald decision, which has proved to be somewhat of a legal bogeyman, if you will, for prosecutors. because what it did is it raised the bar on what's now required to get someone on the hook in a bribery case. and as you mentioned, setting up a meeting or, you know, trying to get a friend to get a phone call is now not enough, said the supreme court, and instead what you need to show is that a federal official, a politician, put his thumb on the scale or pressured somebody else to act on an ongoing proceeding or a lawsuit. now, prosecutors say that's exactly what menendez did by reaching out to then senate majority leader harry reid or kathleen sebelius, but the defense lawyers say, no, that's not what he did, he didn't target subordinates. >> all right, laura jarrett, thank you so much. finally in our national lead, astronaut kneel armstrong, former secretary of defense donald rumsfeld, stephen spielberg earned the right to be called eagle scouts.
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stood girls can officially earn their ranks. the boy scouts board of directors voted unanimously to welcome girls into their program starting in 2018, allowing girls to eventually earn the highest honor of eagle scott scout. that's it for "the lead." turning you over now to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." happening now, breaking news. spreading flames. california's wildfires now are blamed for at least 21 deaths, hundreds more are misses, thousands have been forced to flee. with winds picking up, the flames remain out of control. when will firefighters and homeowners get a break? the wick of war. as u.s. bombers conduct drills over the korean peninsula, president trump says he's stronger and did you ever than his top advisers. a top north korean official accuses the president of lighting the wick of war. will either side tone down the dangerous rhetoric? tip-top shape. president trump also says he wants the