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this point in time appears to be going in the way of bashar al assad and, of course, his backers from iran, russia and hezbollah. wolf? >> fred pleitgen, be careful. we'll stay in close touch. thanks for that report. that's it for me. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room. for our international viewers, "amanpour" is next. for our viewers in north america "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. very . thank you for being with me on this friday, i'm brooke baldwin. you are watching cnn. we are watching the gold elevators inside the lobby of trump tower where day by day, meeting by meeting a new presidency, a new administration is taking shape. according to our sources telling cnn, john bolton is being considered for secretary of state.
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mr. trump is meeting with senator heidi heitkamp. the president-elect resurrecting some of his campaign rhetoric saying, "we had a lot of money fighting hillary." and in the thick of that speech making one major announcement that was supposed to wait for a couple days donald trump wants retired marine corps general james mattis to serve as his secretary of defense. >> we are going to appoint mad dog mattis. [ cheers and applause ] as our secretary of defense. but we're not announcing it till monday so don't tell anybody. >> well, the secret is out, now we know. jessica schneider is standing by outside of trump tower. we talked about these individuals as potential picks. what about policy announcement, jessica? did trump make any policy
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announcements today? >> reporter: brooke, this was all really reminiscent of candidate trump where he riffed on a multitude of subjects going in every which direction. it was part teleprompter, part off the cuff but it was all signature donald trump and he honed in on his message that he honed in throughout the campaign on putting america first. he says he wants to put america first to american workers cutting taxes and when it comes to immigration, suspending immigration from countries he says are compromised by terror but also talking about a number of subjects as he tends to do in these large rallies where he sometimes does go off the prompter. he even lashed out at the media calling it "the dishonest media." he even took a few jabs at ohio governor john kasich saying, of course, john kasich not endorsing donald trump during the campaign but donald trump said john kasich called him after the election to congratulate him. and donald trump also talking about unity, talking about this
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country coming together and working together to enact a lot of his policy proposals so it was classic donald trump in that big rally that we know that he feeds off of, of course, though, today is it back to business at trump tower but donald trump's really hop skiching through two different states yesterday talking about his platforms, talking about his priorities as he gets ready to assume the presidency. brooke? >> jessica schneider, thank you so much. 49 days to go until inauguration day. lots more to talk about. the people behind his campaign and hillary clinton's campaign were revealing their true feelings about what led to mr. trump's stunning upset. since 1972 -- just a little background -- the harvard institute of politics has hosted a forum where top campaign aides meet for a post-mortem discussion. discussing what went so right and what went so wrong. this is supposed to be an educational initiative.
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it's an opportunity for the campaigns to show respect for the process and the outcome. this year it was kind of bitter and heated. let me play this for you. this is an exchange between trump campaign manager kellyanne conway and clinton's chief jennifer palmieri. >> if providing a platform for white supremacists makes me a brilliant tactician, i'm glad to have lost. i would rather lose than win the way you guys did. >> do you think i ran a campaign where white supremacists had a platform. will you look me in the face and tell me? >> you did, kellyanne. >> absolutely. >> do you think you could have had a message for the white working class voters? do you think this woman who has nothing in common with anybody -- >> i'm not saying why you won, but that's the campaign. >> you think that's because of what you just said or because people aren't ready for a woman president? really? how about it's hillary clinton? she doesn't connect with people. how about they have nothing in common with her. guys i can tell you're angry but
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wow. hashtag he's your president. how's that? >> hashtag, if he's going to be my president then he needs to show me white supremacy is not acceptable steps from the oval office. >> he's said it a million times and you know it. >> wow, that was a piece of it. let's talk more about with susan page, washington bureau chief for "usa today." cnn political commentator van jones with us who used to work in the obama white house. barry bennett and trump biography michael dantonio. welcome to all of you. susan page, you were there in cambridge through that. can you set the scene for me and tell me when it took a turn? >> just note that very last quote that was attributed to jennifer palmieri was said by karen finney. at that point -- very hard to figure out who's talking in those conversations but that was a quote by karen finney, not jennifer palmieri talking about
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hashtag i don't want a president who doesn't reach out to different groups. i've gone to this forum before and it's not that it's so friendly usually because these are partisans but it's pretty civil and respectful and this was fierce. this was much like the campaign that we've just seen, it was bitter and divided and you get the feeling that it's not over yet. >> what to you -- and then i want to move on to folks who see things differently, though -- what to you was the most, i don't know if it's inflammatory, rude or just but if you hadding thing you heard in all of that. >> well, they have totally different perspectives, i think, on why -- what happened in this campaign. in some ways they have the same perspecti perspective. both agreed it was a change election and that was a big force but the reasons for trump's rise, the reasons for hillary clinton's problems in losing an election that i think most of the people in that room thought she was probably going to win. and the most inflamed moment was the one you just played when
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they talked about whether steve bannon and the trump campaign provided a platform for the alt-right, for white supremacists and anti-semitics to be energized and feel empowered. that was the most angry divide between the two sides. is. >> let me turn to van jones. watching you on "the view," i know how you feel about steve bannon, i want you to weigh in on the white supremacist piece of the conversation, but also on the flip side when you heard kellyanne conway over and over saying why can't you acknowledge that hillary clinton was a bad candidate. >> i have been clear throughout -- i think both political parties are in real trouble and neither wants the challenges. we both believe we are the champion of the working class. it's also true we have elitist, highly educated people who look down their noses at red state
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voters and it shows. so democrats had to deal with our elitism. it's also true the republican party sees itself as the party of color blind meritocracy, and that's beautiful. but they have opened the back door and some serious bigots have come in and have not been thrown out. the alt-right, the white nationalists. both parties, therefore have a problem because neither party seems to respect all the voters. right now we say we're not elitists, we're not racists and everybody knows both parties and candidates were flawed. >> barry bennett, how do you see it? >> i was in cambridge as well and it was largely -- i spent a lot of time with my democratic counterparts and we had a good time exchanging information is but if people believe that white supremacists are part of the republican party, let me go ahead and boldly speak for the republican party, they're not welcome here.
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leave. hillary clinton didn't lose because of white supremacist. i don't understand that logic. she lost because she couldn't connect with people, she made a bad mistake about the server in her house and then not -- >> there was a lot of discussion about that joechl letter last night. >> butsy understand they don't like the comey letter and i can agree but it was all self-inflicted. if they had turned over the laptop then it wouldn't have happened but they didn't. >> self-inflicted, van? >> first of all, i want to say appreciate what you just said that they're not welcome. and i think that in a year -- we live in our different bubbles. in a year where you had -- well 18 months you had nine african-americans killed by a white supremacist, where trump has been retweeting white supremacists, it is a real wound for us and so we just want people to acknowledge that's a
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problem and do what you just said. i think the reason that liberals are shocked is because for us any kind of bigoted statement is automatically disqualifying and so we feel that anybody who can overlook that must have some bias. i think liberals are wrong on this point. i think there are some trump voters who saw those comments as distasteful but not disqualifying and they held their nose and voted and they don't -- they shouldn't be lumped in with the alt-right. but the fact that we're having to parse through the alt-right over here and elitism over there shows how both parties are in real trouble as far as i'm concerned. >> and who sets the tone and who should be delivering the message, i think barry just did, is the next president of the united states. michael, i want you to weigh in because a huge piece of this is the beginning of his thank you tour. watching him, we watched him yesterday during the show there in indianapolis which is the first time we heard from mr. trump in that way in months so now we heard from him again from cincinnati.
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let me play a clip. we don't have any sound from trump last night? okay. >> i can tell you what he said. >> let's all paraphrase. >> i can, too. >> michael d' antonio. to you there was a lot. it was everything from, you know, he's obviously grateful to win, democrats would say he was gloating a bitened n talking about hillary clinton. there was the lock them up -- i see you van, the lock them up chant. thousands of people who packed into this arena and it was a wide ranging between -- on teleprompter and off. michael d'antonio, this is vintage trump. is this the trump we will see for the next four years? >> well, i think it very much is and this is the thing that we should really be focusing on is not the bitterness at that harvard meeting, those people will be fighting for a long time. it's really the wound that is opened in our body politic and how divided the country is.
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i've always been concerned that president-elect trump doesn't have the ability to show grace and help us heal and he's doing the opposite so far. someone could get to him, i hope someone does get to him and explain there's a role for the president to play here and that it's not about lock her up or reprising his campaign greatest hits. there's a job to be done here, it's a serious job that needs to be done with deliberate care and that's not what's happening right now. >> barry, before you jump in, we should give donald trump credit for especially seeing him in indianapolis yesterday and what he did when you say no grace, i think that was incredibly gracious. but i hear your point on your perspective. we do now magically have the sound from trump last night. roll it. >> we spend too much time
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focusing on what divides us. now is the time to embrace the one thing that truly unites us. you know what that is? america. america. although we did have a lot of fun fighting hillary, didn't we? [ cheers and applause ] right? [ crowd chanting "lock her up" ] >> barry ben nnett, my questiono you is this. it's wonderful, the message of unity, but when you have an audience cheering "lock her up," he's won, stock? saying what he did and the fist pump in the end, does that say unity to you? >> well, remember, those words didn't come out of his mouth. those words came out of about 15,000 americans. >> could she have shut it down?
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>> how do you shut down that? i don't think that's his responsibility, to tell you the truth. he's already said he's not going to appoint a special prosecutor to look into her server, the lies she's told about her server. that's over. the campaign has passed. but there are plenty of problems. van and i could work everyday for the rest of the year trying to solve these problems and make a dent in them. >> go ahead, michael, you're on skype so it's tricky to jump in. go ahead. >> i think if we want to see how to shut something down we can recall president obama shutting down the hecklers who were going after a veteran who stood up to talk at one of his rallies. a president or president-elect has to take command of a room like that and demonstrate the true spirit that trump was attempting, i guess, to bring to the moment which is not about lock her up. even if he has said "i'm not going to prosecute her" this is the middle of that arena was the
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moment and donald lost the chance to show us he was bigger than that moment. >> go ahead, van. >> brooke, donald trump never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity when it comes to building real unity. that would have been a perfect home for him to say "you know what? we're not doing that, we'll move forward" and i think he would have gotten real applause for doing that hi has a following that will follow him anywhere. there are two donald trumps. there is teleprompter donald trump and then there is terrible donald trump and wherever he comes off that teleprompter when somebody wrote something good for him an he starts riffing somebody is going to get insulted. he has to stop doing that, he's president-elect. >> appreciate all of you. we have to go but there will be more from the thank you tour, perhaps who knows who we'll see. michael and barry and van and susan, appreciate all your vices very much. coming up here, though, the president-elect's pick for secretary of defense. who is general james mattis, also known as mad dog in the warrior monk.
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where he stands on foreign policy and some of his eye-popping quotes. we'll talk to a marine who served three deployments under the general and is a big, big fan. also ahead, following breaking news out of north charleston where police officer michael slager is facing charges in the murder of walter scott. developments right now in the courtroom. we're back in a moment. this is cnn. you pay your car insurance premium like clockwork. month after month. year after year. then one night, you hydroplane into a ditch. yeah... surprise... your insurance company tells you to pay up again. why pay for insurance if you have to pay even more for using it? if you have liberty mutual deductible fund™, you could pay no deductible at all. sign up to immediately lower your deductible by $100. and keep lowering it $100 annually, until it's gone.
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a former police officer named michael slager has been on trial for murder for the shooting death of walter scott. the jury has been deliberating for multiple days. the jury has returned to the courtroom. they had a question. let me be precise in my language. they came to ask a question they simply cannot agree. i want to play the sound from the judge addressing the court moments ago. >> ladies and gentlemen, you have stated that you've been unable to reach a verdict in
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this case. as i instructed you earlier, the verdict of the jury must be unanimous. now, when a matter is in dispute, it isn't always easy for even two people to agree so when 12 people must agree, it becomes even more difficult. in most cases, absolute certainty cannot be reached or expected. however, you have a duty. you have a duty to make every reasonable everyday to reach a unanimous verdict. in doing so, you should consult with one another, express your own views and listen to the opinions of your fellow jurors. tell each other how you feel and why you feel that way.
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discuss your differences with an open mind. . although the verdict of the jury must be unanimous, every one of you has the right to your own opinion. the verdict you agree to must be your own verdict, the result of your own convictions, and you should not give up your firmly held beliefs merely to be in agreement with your fellow jurors. the majority should consider the minority's position and the minority should consider the majority's position. you should carefully consider and respect the opinions of each other and re-evaluate your position for reasonableness,
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correctness and impartiality. you must lay aside all outside matters and reexamine the questions before you based on the law and the evidence in this case. if you do not agree on a verdict, i must declare a mistrial. in that case, it does not mean that anybody wins, it just means that at some future time i will try this case with some other jury sitting where you now sit. the same participants will come and the same lawyers will likely ask basically the same questions and get basically the same
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answers waend will go through this whole process again. you were selected in the same manner and from the same source any future jury will be and there's no reason for me to suppose that the case will ever be submitted to 12 more intelligence, conscientious and competent jurors than you. or that more clear evidence will be produced on one side or the other. i therefore ask that you return to your deliberations, if you will. >> okay, so let's walk through exactly what we heard, the significance here. i have paul callan, he is on the
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phone, cnn legal analyst, danny cevallos was just seated and boris sanchez has been following this in north charleston. paul callan, let me begin with you because i know you were throng this from the beginning. what was the judge doing there? >> well, the judge was giving what is called in the federal system an allen charge, sometimes it's called the dynamite charge and it's a charge the judge always gives when a jury reports they're deadlocked. obviously after a lengthy controversial trial we don't want to have to start over again so this is the instruction -- go back out and make another serious effort at reaching a verdict. honor each other's views, listen to the minority, listen to the majority but get back to work and take another shot. it's almost always given when that first note comes in saying "we're deadlocked." we know they asked the question the night before what's the difference between fear and
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passion. you have these 12 jurors, danny cevallos, this south carolina paroleman char patrolman charged with murder. what are they struggling with? >> they're struggling with a couple different things. first is the definition of murder in south carolina which doesn't always require a specific spent two "i want to kill that person." if you have some highly reckless behavior, some malignant heart, that can rise to the level of murder. they're probably also grappling with the state's definition of voluntary manslaughter which is a killing committed under extreme provocation and i can imagine they are debating in the jury room about whether or not this is something that happened under extreme provocation, you just see the video there of the decedent running away and i think they're battling with that. i think because slager testified in his defense, slager did a very good job with the facts that he had which are generally bad, creating an image of imminent fear of immediate harm
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in the minds of the jury. he spoke in the present tense. i'm standing there, i'm thinking he's going to turn around. he was well coached and remember police officers are the best testifying witnesses because they do it everyday in court just on the other side. >> let's take five steps back for all of you joining us here. we're getting the latest twist in this murder trial involving a south carolina patrolman, michael slager in regard to the death of walter scott. it was something we covered extensively because of the cell phone that was released because of a passer-by during the shooting. boris seine chazz, let me go to you. if you can, remind us. he was pulled over because of a broken taillight and it evolved into his death. >> right, brooke. and what happened from there is really the most contentious point of this entire trial. the police officer says that there was a scuffle and during that scuffle walter scott grabbed ahold of his taser and
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aimed it at him and in the moments after that his training kicked in and that's when he opened fire. the prosecution says that that is not precisely what happened, that walter scott was able to get a significant distance away. they've made it a point to point out walter scott was 18 feet away when michael slager opened fire. you mentioned the questions they had yesterday about fear and passion. yesterday they also had a question from the judge for two transcripts, first the transcript of michael slager's testimony, then the transcript of angela peterson's testimony. she was the lead investigator in the case that said on the stand that the story that she got from michael slager when she interviewed him was not what she saw on the video. that there were inaccuracies, inconsistencies with his story. the defense has gone on to say those inkconsistencies were due to the fact that he'd just gone through something traumatic. that his memory was not in perfect shape because he was still in shock.
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fast forward to today just a few moments ago. it was interesting the way this came down. first we get the request from the jury asking for a santana's testimony, the witness that caught the last of the shuffle on video. then 12 minutes later there's the note from the jury saying it is clear the jurors will not be able to reach a consensus. the judge then came back, asked the jury to come out and asked them if having fayden santana's testimony might sway anyone. it took two minutes, maybe three minutes for the jury to come back out and say "if we listen to this it will not change." so a very heated debate during deliberations. the judge pulling the allen charge as it's called trying to force these jurors to deliberate and as he said, you have a duty to reach a verdict. essentially saying if this is a mistrial, if it's retried you're going to get the same questions
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from the same attorneys, potentially the same answers and you'll end up with another 12 jurors that will likely be in another heated debate about the facts of this case so it's not as if they will be able to reach a decision themselves. that's what the judge wants from them in this case, brooke. >> keep us apprised, of course, if the jurors have more questions today. we'll stay in close contact with you. boris sanchez thank you so much here as this story absolutely gripped that community in north charleston and the nation. paul and danny, thank you as well. quick break, we'll be right back.
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welcome back, you're watching cnn, i'm brooke
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baldwin. he's known as "mad dog" or the warrior monk. he's the chosen defense secretary. the president-elect revealed his pick of retired marine corps general james mattis. >> i don't want to tell you this because i want to save the suspense for next week. we are going to appoint mad dog mattis -- [ cheers and applause ] as our secretary of defense. >> how about this for a resume? the four-star general has served 44 years in the military. he is known for some colorful language, apparently 11 years ago he said "it's fun to shoot them, you know, it's a hell of a hoot. it's fun to shoot some people." but he's credited for his leadership in the battle of fallujah and cherished words of encouragement to his troops. he wrote this letter to marines one day before beginning the 2003 assault into iraq. he wrote in part "you are part of the world's most feared and
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trusted force. engage your brain before you engage your weapon. fight with a happy heart and strong spirit, demonstrate to the world there is no better friend, no worse enemy than a u.s. marine." with me now, staff sergeant richard ammandor, he served three deployments under general mattis and has called mattis the real deal. also elise labott, cnn global affairs correspondent. but sergeant first and foremost thank you so much for your service to this country and, please, just tell me about your experience with general mattis. >> well, first of all, thank you for having me on, i'm honored to be able to speak on behalf of general mattis. my experience that the marine corps, he instilled a leader's leader mentality. never did he separate enlisted
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from commission. never broke down ranks for us. always pushes on to us be polite, to be professional but to have a plan to kill everybody we meet and as harsh as that sounds, it was true, we had to, especially when we in iraq for the initial push then fallujah and then my third tour into fallujah as well. we always had to have that plan "b" just in case because they didn't give us forewarning that something was going to come down, the enemy, that is, so we -- it was something we learned to live by and, you know, he always motivated us and pushed us to be brilliant at the basics, everybody had their job and as long as we did it we were a machine and machines couldn't be stopped if we were doing our part. so i think he doesn't get the
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best rap because, you know, certain quotes that he may have said but i don't have any issue with explaining how compassionate of a man he is as well. on a personal level a couple years ago my wife and i lost our seven-month-old daughter. >> oh, i'm so sorry. >> suddenly. i had been out of the marine corps for a couple years and he had already been retired as well and i get a phone call from general mattis and he left me a left message, demanded i call him back. we played phone tag a couple times and we finally connected and for him to take the time out of his day to assure me that, you know, things are going to be okay it just proved to me what kind of man he really is.
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and to have that balance of compassion plus the leadership he has, he's going to do great in a position that he's going to be in. >> appreciate you sharing that story sergeants. i'm sorry for your loss but that does show the measure of a man. i have more for you but elise labott, general mattis will be the highest ranking officer to become secretary of defense in more than half a century. his appointment hinges on congress. congress has to waive a rule prohibiting those who have been in active duty for the past seven years and he's only been out, what, three? >> that's right, brooke, and this would be historic, not since george marshall has someone of this rank been serving as secretary of defense and certainly someone who's so recently in the military and it's so interesting that general mattis recently came out with a book with corey shanky of the hoover institution where general mattis has been working for several years about the relationship between the civilian population and the
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military and i want to read a quick quote. he was really talking about how he complained that politicians had relied too much on military commanders to make the case for policies. he was writing in this book that, you know, a lot of times military commanders have a responsibility to carry out and advocate the president's policies and a lot of times politicians rely too much on the military so it's very interesting that general mattis has been thinking a lot about these questions. he's known as someone who not only as the sergeant said talking about military leaders but also someone who's studied about military thinking, military history, someone who's seen as strategic in the region. i don't think he'll have any problem getting this waiver from congress. you've heard several congressmen talk about how this shouldn't be a problem. there are some democrats and others that are worried about
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civilian control of the military but certainly general mattis is seen as someone who could provide the kind of leadership that president-elect trump is looking for. >> we did hear a bit of opposition from senator gillibrand saying she would vote against the waiver saying civilian control of our military is a fundamental principle of american democracy. sergeant, i want to get back to you. we know president-elect trump we know his research is surprised when he told him he never found torture useful. the quote was "i've always found give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and i do better than that with torture." how has he dealt with complex issues like that? >> well, to be completely honest with you, i'm not even sure i understand your question so i think i'll keep that opinion to
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myself without just muddying the waters, to be completely honest with you. >> i think the quote is significant when they had an on-the-record meeting at the "new york times" because of what we heard from mr. trump on the campaign trail about torture. and what the general is saying maybe you don't need it, i'm pretty powerful paraphrasing. give me cigarettes and a couple beers and i can do much better. perhaps even changing mr. trump's views on torture. let me move off that and ask you a final, just a final comment or story with your experience in battle with the general. >> well, just go back to what you were just talking about and i'm glad you paraphrased that, made me understand better. >> no problem. >> i agree. i think he is so intelligence and well spoken that he could -- he could do it with the a bag of cigarettes and a six pack of beer and convince somebody to give the information needed
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versus having to torture. so i have confidence in that statement. now you quoted him earlier and it's always stuck with me is he always pushed on to us to use our brains before our weapons. we always had to train for that ch. know what's in our sight but beyond our sights and that always made us engage in -- engage our brains before making a decision on the battlefield. and that just goes to show how intelligent the man really is if he can do that to such a spread wide core and get everybody thinking along the same line and truly believe that or make us believe that. we were there to help and when we went into -- when we went
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into iraq during the initial push one of the things i do remember him telling us when we were at rct-7 was that we were there to liberate, help a people, we were not to conquer so he made it clear to us that -- what the mission was so there was no blurred line there, so i think it speaks volumes of him on how he can get his point across and make others understand it to buy into the program and make sure that we all came back and one piece. and his mission was to get the job done and bring everybody back home to their families. >> engage your brain before you engage your weapon. fight with a happy heart and strong spirit. words of general mattis, the next potential secretary of defense in this administration. staff sergeant, i cannot thank you enough for your service. thank you. and elise labott, thank you very much as well. >> thank you very much.
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that's right for you. we're following news that it was road rage that may have led to the death of a former nfl football player. joe mcknight was shot and killed during an argument at an intersection outside of new orleans.
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police say when they arrived on the scene, ronald gasser, a 54-year-old man, pulled the trigger, he was still there. is he turned his weapon over to police. mcknight was still barely clinging to life and no gun was found on his body. he died at the scene. the sheriff holding a news conference just a little while ago. >> mr. gasser did not stand over mr. mcknight and fire shots into him. the three casings were located within the vehicle. mr. gasser was in the vehicle, in his vehicle when he fired three shots. >> that news has sent shock waves throughout the nfl community. reggie bush, running back for the buffalo bills and also knows joe mcknight, knew joe mcknight, they graduated usc.
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reggie's tweet reads "he didn't deserve to die that way. and then this man stands over him and shoots him again like some kind of wild animal, sickening." there's a lot of information we don't know, you heard from the sheriff's department but let me bring reggie in. reggie bush is on the phone with me. reggie, i am so sorry that this has happened to joe, can you first just tell me how you found out? >> well, i first found out through some friends. i stay in exact a lot of my buddies that i played with and that i went to school with at usc and right when i found out through one of my friends and it sent shock waves through everybody else, all of our teammate, coaches, people that play with him, that knew him, rex ryan, our head coach at buffalo, i think they drafted him so he knew him very well. our offensive coordinator was his running back coach so a lot
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of people knew him and it sent shock waves, i think, through a lot of us because we knew who he was, we knew the type of person that he was and it's just disheartening. it's saddening to hear that a young man, 28 years old, who had a lot -- a bright future whether on or off the football field to die in the way he died. >> will you tell me about him? >>. >> i'm sorry, can you say that again? >> tell me about him, reggie. tell me a story, tell me what kind of man he was. >> well, joe mcknight came into usc after me. i was already gone so i didn't get a chance to play with him but from meeting him and talking to him, he was an exceptional young man who loved football. he played very well at usc and
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obviously had a good nfl career. i know he had a son. me and joe weren't extremely close but in the times that i got a chance to talk to him and hang out with him a little bit just a very down to earth kind of soft spoken young man and just a great kid. i'd always been a fan of his watching what he did on the football field at usc and also with new york jets and it's funny today i got a chance to speak with the running back coach about him and just talk about some stories and it's just a great kid and it's very sad. obviously sad about it and hurt. i wouldn't ask everybody to pray for his parents and his son who's going to have to grow up
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without a father and his brothers and sisters and cousins and all the people who helped raise him. those are the ones that i'm praying for. >> lastly, reggie, and there's still so many blanks in this whole story. we know the guy who shot and killed him hasn't been charged. the sheriff's department still investigating. apparently the shooter fired his gun from within his car all over road rage, broad daylight. >> yeah, it makes no sense and i think one of my tweets that i posted last night was how can two men not come to an agreement on something or not be able to just talk out their differences like men using their words so that both people go home safely? to their families. to their kids or their wives or whomever, you know? and it just seems unreal because
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for me we just had to bury one of my ex-teammates, will smith, who went through a very similar situation because of road rage and will was shot and killed, his wife raquel was shot i think twice and this was just six, seven months ago we had to bury will and that was tough for all of us so to see this happen again in the same city. there's something that needs to be done because it's not okay to for road rage or whatever happens between people and somebody ends up losing their life. that's not okay. and i have to admit when i heard today that the guy was released without charges i was pretty angry. and i still am pretty angry. and i'm not sure what all the
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details of the situation are but i know that it just doesn't make sense. >> it doesn't at all. reggie, thank you for your voice and taking the time. i am sorry, you're right, prayers to the family, thoughts for the family on an extraordinarily tough day and to his son. reggie bush, thank you. we'll be right back.
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you are watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for being with me. we are keeping a close watch, live pictures of those gold elevators. this is trump tower on fifth avenue in manhattan where the careers of some politicians and a number of non-politicians could change after one important meeting. today the president-elect has welcomed a number of potential advisers and cabinet appointees. sources say john bolton is being considered for secretary of state. mr. trump is meeting today with a democrat, north dakota senator heidi heitkamp. all of this on the heels of trump's beginningf