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. hillary clinton isn't the only one getting help from a star on the campaign trail. this is "cnn tonight with don lemon." ivanka trump stepping up for her father, the candidate and helping him roll out his child care plan tonight in pennsylvania. >> my father has created a plan that is designed to bring relief and to provide working parents with options so that they can make the decisions that are in the best interests of their families. meanwhile, president obama takes to the trail as hillary clinton recovers from pneumonia. >> we cannot afford suddenly to
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treat this like a reality show. we can't afford to act as if there's some equivalence here. to be president you have to do your homework and you have to know what you're talking about. >> so here to discuss a busy day on the campaign trail, philip bump, manager of time and cnn politics executive editor in mark preston. they all join me here in the studio. it is a pleasure having you all on. hillary clinton is off the campaign trail, barak obama stepping in today. the president stepping in today to help her in the key battleground state of pennsylvania. mark, i am coming to you but i want you to listen to a bit of what the president had to say. >> so you want debate transparency, you've got one candidate in this race who has
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released decades worth of her tax returns. the other candidate is the first in decades who refuses to release any at all. you want to debate foundations and charities? one candidate's family foundation has saved countless lives around the world. the other candidate's foundation took money other people gave to his charity and then bought a six-foot tall painting of himself. >> i think you will agree as others, even on the other side that say that president obama is a gifted campaigner, but how much do you think this is going to impact her campaign? is it going to help her? >> quite a bit. look, he is one of the most gifted politicians of our time. now, let's go back and who was that person before barak obama?
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was bill clinton, right? somebody who could deliver a speech, be serious yet intertwine and weave in parables and stories and also take subtle jabs. >> i was walking nima henderson watching the president saying that barak obama is now hillary clinton's bill clinton. >> and kneea is right. here is the thing about barak obama, he will not be on the campaign trail the next couple of weeks. he is still president of the united states, but come october he will be on the campaign trail, out there for her, in states such as north carolina and florida, and a lot of people don't realize there are african-american americans in key states such as ohio, michigan and in pennsylvania. we saw him in philadelphia today. barak obama could be a great help. someone said this earlier and they're right, when is the last time we have seen a sitting president campaign so hard on behalf of their nominee? >> smart move to have him out
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there? >> unquestionably. the guy is popular, which is not always common for barak obama much less presidents. you know, the new post abc poll had 58% approval which i think is a little high, but everybody else has 50%. he is well liked, a good campaigner. we saw chick data that showed incomes rose by 2% across the country. there's good news behind barak obama and barak obama is a good advocate. there's a strong correlation between having a. lar president and the party doing well in a presidential election. it is win, win, win. >> watching and listening to him today i was thinking this man is going to do whatever it takes to get hillary clinton elect because it is personal for him, and not only that it is legacy as well. >> it is absolute legacy. going to your point about the economic data, you can look and say we have just had the biggest jump in median incomes in this country in 50 years. that's a nice piece of economic data to go out with. >> does it help or hurt -- for legacy, but does it help or hurt in this campaign when you look
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at the economic data and people say, well, i don't feel it? >> well, you know, it is interesting because this last bit of data shows that incomes are finally starting to rise at the bottom and at the middle. so you're finally starting to get a little bit of that, you know, gap starting to shrink. i think people this year did start to feel a little different than they have certainly in the past six or seven years. i think we are at a turning point. >> and it would be interesting for him to have donald trump be the recipient of that if this continues to go in that direction instead of hillary clinton, which would help his legacy. so it means even more to him. >> that's right. >> philip bump, ivanka trump was on the campaign trail with her dad tonight and they were talking about promoting middle class families, how to help middle class families, especially to pay for child care. listen to this. >> the united states is the only industrialized nation in the world that does not provide new mothers with paid maternity leave. my father's policy will give
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paid leave to mother's whose employers are among the 90% of businesses who do not offer this benefit. >> this is straight politics. he needs women, he is going after them. >> he has ivanka out there who is a great representative, fairly well liked, especially by standards of this ee lk shon cycle. it is one of fist times we saw donald trump layout a concrete policy proposal with details. he hasn't done it at all. he of course said hillary clinton hasn't released a child care plan, which she had, which is trumpy, but it is a unique thing for him and his candidacy. obviously we could talk about the policy itself, and i'm sure they will, but they are detailed and nuanced. it is unusual. >>s he said it is very trumpy, i like that expression. isn't the ironony about the details it is supposed to be her policy, it was her driving force
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behind her father to put this policy into place? >> yes. >> and to make sure the building blocks were there. >> and it is in line with a lot of other policies. it does favor middle class and upper middle class people. it is not a policy that's going to help -- >> how so? >> it is regressive, but most benefits from the kind of plan that they're proposing would flow to the people with the most income. so it is not really going to help working class americans, middle class americans, lower middle class americans who really do need child care the most. >> what do we know, mark, if anything about how he handled these similar issues in his own companies, paid family leave, child care, that sort of thing? >> well, they put a statement out today and they said the trump corporation, that they feel very good about the policies that they have done. look at, i'm not a labor expert so, you know, i'm not one to speak of that. i do think it would be very difficult, and let's assume there are holes in it. it would be difficult for him to be talking about this without them having some buttoned up approach for their own company. >> the question is always, ron,
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how are gug to pay for this. you know, people running for president propose, how is he going to pay for this? >> that's what we haven't heard enough about. to your point, this is sort of classic trickle down economics, a lot of this stuff, tax cuts, tax breaks, without plans about how to pay for them. and a lot of economists think that spending and the deficit would go way up based on what little we've seen so far of some of the trump -- >> is it an issue that conservatives and republicans take on? how is this going to be received? >> i was looking at a tweet before i came out here, at bright which has been strongly pro trump had a story in 2015 lamenting barak obama was proposing paid child leave. and then they had an article saying how great it was. it is not typical -- >> are you surprised? >> no comment on that. it is not typical. it is an area where both ivanka got her father to make a change, but also an area where he can be sort of a different type of candidate because he's not
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behold ento the republican party, to the traditional republican politics. had he been doing stuff like this all along he would be in a slightly better position. >> let's talk more about the economy. here's the president. >> let's face it, republicans don't like to hear good news right now, but it is important just to understand this is a big deal. more americans are working. more have health insurance. incomes are rising. poverty is falling. and gas is $2 a gallon. thank you for reminding me. thanks, obama. >> he was saying thanks, obama because earlier on they were saying, thank you, obama, what have you during this piece. they were chanting that. you know, donald trump has said the economy is a mess, and he did say -- he said that economic
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statistics are rigged, he accused federal reserve janet yellen of keeping interest rates low to help obama. how is all of this income and all of that, how is it going to play out in public? because it is actually good news. >> exactly. what is kind of ironic is if you look at really who has done the most for the economy in the last eight years, it's been the fed. it is funny trump was taking on janet yellen because if anybody has done anything for the economy, fed kept rates low. the fact we have low inflation is one of the reasons median incomes have been rising. i think it is hard to say this news is not good news. that said there are some nuances. the data is better because there are more jobs out there, but wages as a whole are really not growing as fast as they should at this stage in a recovery. that's been true for the last few rekoefrs, each one has taken longer and been weaker than the last. >> thank you all. i appreciate it. when we come back new york attorney's general says he is investigating the trump foundation. the campaign calls it a left
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. new york's attorney general tells cnn he is investigating the trump foundation to make sure it is complying with state law. the campaign calling that, quote, a left wing hit job. it all comes amid reports that are rising -- raising questions about how the charity spends its money. cnn's senior investigative correspondent has been looking into the foundation and here is what he found. >> reporter: it is a sticky little thing called a fact, tens of millions of them. dollars that the trump campaign continuously says donald trump has given away without specifically providing any of the sticky little facts to back it all up. >> anyone who knows about donald trump and his career knows that this is a man who has given away tens of millions of dollars to charitable causes. >> joining us now is trump's
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campaign manager kellyanne conway. >> reporter: on cnn's new day it was trump's campaign manager's job to dodge the question. >> part of the reason people are calling on him to release taxes is so people know how much he has given to charity. will you or the campaign release what that number is? the reason -- why would you doubt it? >> i doubt it because it is like badgering. i don't see it as journalism, i see it as badgering. >> reporter: here is the journalism as we know it pulled from the donald trump foundation own tax filings. first thing you notice it is small. in 2014 it had just $1.3 million in the bank and donald trump hasn't given to his own foundation since he gave his last donation in 2008. the foundation instead relies on donations, mostly it appears from companies who have had business or tv appearances with him. nbc, comedy central, world
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wrestling entertainment. trump then uses those donated funds to give it away in his own name. cnn has found evidence this year where trump personally has given his own money, one million to the marine corps law enforcement association in may, another $100,000 to a botton rouge, louisiana church to help flood victims. and there is evidence trump's campaign allegations that some of the reporting on trump's charity has been inaccurate may have something to them. "washington post," which has done an exhaustive review of trump's giving, reported a $10,000 donation trump's foundation said it gave to latino commission on aids was never received. today the director of the latino commission on aids told us the same thing, and then actually checked and changed his story. it turns out trump did give $10,000. >> i'm grateful that the story come up because i was able to clarify the confusion that
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happened when they were putting this story together. >> reporter: in a second instance "the washington post" reported trump's foundation failed to give a $10,000 donation to the giving back fund, a fund devoted to professional athletes charitable causes. it turns out trump in fact did give money to that charity as well. we just did an exhaustive search, the charity wrote to cnn, and did finally find a record of it. >> don, we found a third example tonight where a trump donation was made to a charity that "the washington post" claims was not made. this is called a friends of veterans down in palm beach, florida, but this looks more like an error in the accounting by the trump foundation itself. theyer rantly charted that off to a vermont charity with the same exact name. but this is only going to feed into the fire that the trump campaign is trying to raise, that there are lots of inaccuracies in the reporting about trump's charitable
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givings, but it still doesn't excuse the fact we have no evidence, no evidence whatsoever from the campaign or the trump organization where these tens of millions of dollars that donald trump has supposedly given out over the years, where they actually are. don. >> drew griffin, thank you very much. up next, the trump campaign has choice words for new york attorney general who is investigating the foundation. comfort food, you've had a good long run.
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the donald j. trump foundation under investigation by the state of new york. i want to talk about it with corey lone do you sky, trump's former campaign manager, and david collins and the author of the making of donald trump. here is what eric schneiderman said on cnn earlier. >> we have been concerned that the trump foundation may have engaged in impropriety from that point of view and we inquired into it and had correspondence with him and didn't make a big deal or hold a press conference, but we've been looking into the trump foundation to make sure it is compliant with the laws that govern charities in new york. >> corey, does it concern you? >> it doesn't concern me. but it does concern me you have
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a highly politically motivated attorney general who sees his sights as the next governor of the state of new york trying to with eight weeks to go in a presidential campaign, trying to make a political story out of something that doesn't exist. what is very important here is this is all premised on "the washington post" story which was originally written, and that "washington post" story specifically outlined three foundations that claimed donald trump made a contribution to and those foundations said they didn't receive the money until cnn went back and did research and found they actually received the money on each of those occasions, and "the washington post" says we stand by our story. now you have schneiderman who solicited contributions from donald trump and ivanka and his son-in-law to help his campaign in the future now using his  office for political purposes to go after a foundation. >> the attorney general is actually harsher, it says the attorney general is a part san who has turned a blind eye to
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the clinton foundation for years and endorsed hillary clinton for president. this is nothing more than another left wing hit job designed to distract from crooked hillary clinton's disastrous week. why are you not surprised they're opening an investigation into the trump foundation? >> well, there have been three known illegal acts by the trump foundation, the use of charitable funds to buy a tim tebow helmet for donald, the use of $20,000 of foundation money to buy a six-foot painting that barak obama talked about today of donald trump. those are improper expenditures. the $25,000 given to pam bondi's election campaign when she was considering investigating this fraud of trump university. the last one is very important because the trump organization has tried to explain that away in a way that suggests a coverup. well, we meant it to go to a group in wichita which says it has never gotten any money. no, no, it was a group in california. and the fact is charitable
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foundations operate under rules set by congress and they're not allowed -- you are not allowed to use that money for your own benefit. so on those three issues alone i think there's plenty for the attorney general, who is the guardian of charitable assets, to look into what's happening at the trump foundation. and if there's nothing there, then they won't find anything, but we do know of these three illegal acts. >> so, corey, here is the thing, mike pence said donald trump has given away tens of millions of dollars, but as you saw in the investigation of drew griffin there was no proof of it. tens of millions. where is the proof of it? >> look, donald trump has said very clearly that he gives personal, he gives personal donations. what we saw this year alone is when donald trump raised $6 million for the veterans he wrote a personal one mr. doll$1 account to the marine corps foundation, and he will agree that has been received. we know donald trump has not donated to his charity since
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2008 because he has chosen to give the money personally, tens of millions of dollars. >> unless his returns are released you don't see that. this is a year he is running for president so he's going to make a big deal that he has given to charity. there is no proof. >> he said he will release his taxes as soon as the audit is completed but we know he has given millions of dollars personally, and we know that "the washington post" story which says he didn't give to the -- >> you made your point, but let's say this. we have been discussing transparency and we talked about it last night, especially in light of what happened this weekend with secretary clinton. we have compiled a list of her charitable filings because she released her. in 2013 and 2014 she donated $3 million and so on and so on. if he wants to be transparent, shouldn't he detail his charitable gifgs through his tax returns? >> i don't think he needs to do
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that. i don't think he is going to release his tax returns until the audit is completed. when you look at the attorney general of the state of new york -- >> where he is not audited. >> that's eight years ago, ten years ago. it is completely irrelevant. >> not really. >> you know what we learned from mike pence's taxes, absolutely nothing. >> he released them. >> he released ten years of taxes. >> he released them because there's nothing in there. the question is -- >> and i respect mike pence. >> but people are saying donald trump is not releasing tax returns even though the irs and attorneys said if there's nothing he can release them. that's bull to say that, that's a talking point to say he can't. >> his accountant and attorneys have said our best advice to you is as you are under audit from the irs you should not release your tax returns. that's a fair point to make. >> that's not an excuse, not true though. maybe they said that but it is not true. >> that's the counsel he received. >> don. >> david, go ahead. >> first of all, all donald trump has to do if he is under audit is release the form letter
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you get when you're under edit. he said he has been audited every year so he should have ten or twelve of these telling us he is under audit. nothing disclosed personal about it. prove he is under audit. in 1990 with trump claimed he was giving away millions of dollars, i called about 60 charities not one of whom said they got a dollar from donald trump. there is exactly zero evidence. when corey says it is a fact, that's not true. what is a fact is donald and his surrogates say he made these donations, but there's no record of them. the donations we do know about work out to be a tiny fraction of 1% of what he says is his wealth whereas his opponent has made gifts that are publicly disclosed that are at least a third of her and her husband's wealth. so a tiny fraction of 1%, a third. >> donald trump is worth $10 billion, that is $100 million, that's what he said he gave away. >> we don't know he is worth $10 billion because there's no
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tax returns. >> he has filed financial disclosure. >> it doesn't show. >> it shows his assets and liabilities are. >> one more point, if i can finish instead of being interrupted, one last point. donald trump has a long, well-established history of using different sets of numbers and tax filings. we know he took part in the tax -- sales tax fraud in new york city at bulgari's. he has made statements in the public record that are in my book that don't line up with reality in terms of his property tax matters. so i don't think there's any reason to trust donald trump when he says that he made these gifts. where's the record of it? and donald trump, you know, puts his name on everything. he is going to tell us, oh, no, i don't want my name anywhere. where are the giflts to the university of pennsylvania, his alma mater? there's no record to support the claim being made and the unwillingness to produce it suggests that in fact there's nothing there just as there's no proof he is under audit. one last point, if trump by his
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own standard says i can't release returns under audit, let's get donald's returns from 1978 to 2008. the audits are closed. by his own standard there is no reason to withhold those tax returns. >> yes. so where are the receipts, corey? that's the question. >> i think you should contact the marine corps law enforcement foundation who received a million dollars from his personal wealth this year. >> release from 2014, 2013, 2012. >> he was recipient of an award, he gave money to that foundation. you can make a call. from his personal checkbook he wrote a million dollars to this year. >> that these use. >> last year $125,000 from his personal checkbook. what he has said and continues to say and is unequivocal is that he does not give money to his foundation, he writes it personally. you can contact the marine corps law enforcement foundation which is tasked with helping people
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whose individuals have died. >> wouldn't it be easier if he said here is the receipt, here is the check, the bank transfer. >> contact the foundation. >> if he did it, it is very easy. if i wrote a check to you, corey lone down sky i could say here is the cancelled check, called the bank and get a cop glue. >> he outlined a significant list. >> it is easy, takes a phone call. >> he has outlined a list of the charitable contributionse made givenen to "the washington post." >> but there's no proof it. >> call the foundations. >> that's what our investigators did. >> and found three examples specifically where "washington post" said not there. >> if you look at drew griffin's report there's no proof except for a $10,000 foundation, there's no proof. >> there was three $10,000 foundations that were originally said weren't receased but it was. and then "the washington post" said, we stand by our story. when the ceo of the foundation
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says we have in our records we received a $10,000 contribution from donald trump, you know what "the washington post" said, that's okay, nothing to see here, move on. >> have the people in his campaign seen his tax returns? >> i don't know. but i do know he has produced a letters from his cpas saying he is under audit. >> that letter -- >> david, i will let you get in, but the reason i ask you that is because when -- his campaign manager would come on before when she was a surrogate for ted cruise she would say, i think donald trump needs to release his tax returns, on more than one occasion. when she came back as his campaign manager she said, i have since learned new information since i didn't support donald trump. so what is that new information? why can't that be revealed? have you seen those tax returns? >> the information is he is under audit from the irs. >> but that was said before. that's all been said from the very beginning. >> maybe she was aware of that information and now she understands and she understands under the audit and by advice by
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his attorneys and accountants they said you should not release your taxes until the audit is complete. that's clear. >> that's not an excuse. that is like saying my tailor told me i couldn't wear black with blue where if i wanted to i could. >> if you are tasking someone to file your taxes on your behalf which is your accountants and attorneys and they're giving you the best professional advise which i are paying for, you should listen to it. >> everyone we asked said that's not true. but go ahead, david. >> notice corey avoids the basic issues here, well, what about the returns no longer under audit from 1978 to 2008 by donald trump's own standard there's no reason to hold those back. we have hillary clinton's for all of those years. secondly, what about just producing the auld i think letter? it is a form letter you get that says we're auditing your return. the letter written that corey refers to is one of the most artfully written letters i have ever read. it could be it is a gift tax, it could be that it is a matter totally unrelated to the issues that we care about. let's keep in mind, we had a tax
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crook in the white house who released his tax returns while under audit. we had a man one heartbeat away who resigned and confessed and admitted to a tax felony back in 1974. we don't want to risk having a tax cheat in the white house, and there is no excuse for donald trump not to release the audit letters and to release his 2008 and earlier tax returns, and that he won't do it is very good evidence together with the other signs of fraud that i have written about that there's something he needs to hide. >> all right. that's got to be the last word. thank you very much for that, david johnson. corey, you're going to stay with me. we're pea going to continue to come back. when we come back president obama says he wants hillary clinton to win. he is the shot in the arm she needs as she recovers from pneumonia?
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clinton supporter corey lewandowski back with us and also a trump supporter with me. hopefully i can get my mouth to work in this segment. so, kayleigh, president obama out solo on the campaign trail. he is stumping for hillary clinton today. clearly he has disdain for donald trump. listen to this? >> this is the guy you want to be championing working people? this guy who spent 70 years on this earth showing no concern for working people. this guy is suddenly going to be your champion? i mean he spent most of his life trying to stay as far away from working people as he could. >> so no doubt donald trump has a lot of support from working people as part of his biggest supporters. but the president's question is why would people believe that a wealthy businessman from
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new york who is readily admitted in some ways gaming the system saying, you know, i had to do what i had to do as a businessman, why do they think he's going to advocate in the white house? >> i suppose you should ask them because they turned out in droves for him. independent voters turned other for donald trump and he is winning them by three times what mitt romney did. we heard donald trump jr. talking about being on the construction sites with donald trump. he got down in the dirt, talked to the workers, that's the kind of man he will be and wasn't out there doing construction work. >> he talked to the people that worked for him, they were his peers and friends. >> why are you smirking? you are sitting there like the cat that ate the canary. >> i think it has been one of the better tricks of this campaign cycle where somehow, some way that donald trump has been converted into a working class hero when donald trump very fundamentally on his face
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opposes minimum wage. he opposeds the minimum wage and said, quote, unquote, wages are too high. i don't understand how you can take someone whose policy rhetoric doesn't match up with this plea he is making to working class americans, but to get to the genesis of your question, the most popular elected official we have in the united states of america right now is barak obama. well, it may be michelle obama but it is barak obama. >> she's not elected. >> she's not elected, bakari. >> officially she is the first lady, so a public official. >> bakari, this is where -- >> i think these people are going to roll out for hillary clinton and supplement her. >> you talk about policies, but this is where clinton should look in the mirror, for nafta, for tpp, but now against it. i heard donald trump, anchors on 30 years ago talking about how bad nafta. >> if we want to have a policy conversation, hillary clinton
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campaign has over 112,000 words of policy on the website. donald trump has 9,000. donald trump does not want to have a policy debate because he hasn't put forth policy proposals. >> he has put forth many. >> name one. >> factories from mexico coming back. >> how are you bringing them back. >> if you send your companies to mexico. >> he also said apple is going to produce phones here. how is that going to work? that makes no sense. >> the clinton campaign always wants to get -- >> don. >> angela. >> don, hello, i'm over here in tv timeout. i just want to time in quickly to say, listen, donald trump is selling americans a dream, and part of the issue is there's a book that's now pretty old called "what's the matter with kansas" and we know for years republicans have been pushing the american dream, pedaling the american dream to people who will never achieve it base odd the policies and priorities that they have. donald trump has not just fallen into that, he has embraced that. in fact, created a monster out
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of this situation. he basically is calling republicans to the carpet and saying, if you really believe all of the things you've been saying for all of these decades, if you really believe this dog whistle politics, let me use them and see what i get from them. that's what we're seeing in this election cycle. that's why when we talked about in the earlier segment it is us, versus them, very divided electorate because people are mad and need someone to blame. unfortunately the people they're blaming look like me and other black and brown people in this country. >> i agree with angela people are mad. >> you don't agree with me. >> i do agree with you. >> no, you don't because you go off on a tangent that is crazy. you don't agree with me. >> let me tell you, i think the american people are frustrated, republicans and dems have gone to washington and promised things and we have gotten $21 in debt and jobs shipped overseas. if you want to have another 10,
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20, or eight more years of exactly what the country had which is broken promises, we promise one thing and do something different because the washington, d.c. establishment and special interests control you because of how much money they have donated to your campaign, great, hillary clinton is your candidate. donald trump put $60 million of his own money into the race unlike hillary clinton and he can't be bought, won't be bought. he is the only candidate. >> but he is buying. you know what, corey -- >> when you can't produce them. >> let me knock you off your fill buster trump speech, the pitch you continue to give and continue to say a couple of things. one thing, your candidate is an insider, just on the other side. instead of cashing the check he is writing the check. >> he is a friend -- >> based on the news week piece about to come out we are finding the reason trump can continue to make this allegations about crooked hillary is because he is crooked as hell donald. we are going to see how crooked
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and conflict he is. no wonder he has so much to say about clinton foundation. >> how many jobs did she create? zero. >> corey, i can't go down that rabbit hole today, nont going to do it. >> you know what happened, she hasn't done any of that. and the american people know that. >> she's been too busy in public service and you wouldn't know about that. >> she hasn't created one job in the private sector. >> she's been busy in the public sector. >> we will continue this j conversation when we come back. they're going to fight on the break. be right back. if you have medicare
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all right. we are back now with the panel. bacari, this is for you, the president who is a democrat seemed worried today about the state of the republican party. listen to this. >> and think about what's happened in the republican party. right. they used to be opposed to russia and authoritarianism and fighting for freedom and democracy, and now their nominee is out there praising a guy, saying he is a strong leader because he invades smaller countries, jails his opponents,
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controls the press, and drives his economy into a long recession. >> it has really been a baffling issue and upsetting not just democrats but republicans as well. is this resonating to voters overall? >> i think so. one of the things that voters, maybe not just in the weeds details about trump and his relationship with putin per se, but i do think it makes a lot of voters really, really leery, and a lot of voters not understanding much about donald trump. we talked about his taxes, his largest debt holder is bank of china, about $350 million, you don't want your president to have those type of relationships, but for donald trump to get on tv, with matt lauer and say president putin has an 80% approval rating. you know why? because if you disagree you will end up in jail or dead. i think it is baffling the lack of knowledge donald trump has
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about foreign policy, but the fact he is not willing to learn is even more baffling. >> listening to the president, he made the same point about him being a dictator and having a high approval rating because if you don't support him you end up in jail or worse. i have to say john mccain according to "new york times," mike pence got a lot of push back on capitol hill about trump's support of putin. >> it doesn't support putin. he realizes in order to be an effective leader on the world stage and the agenda, you have to work with other countries. in fact, let's look at the cease fire which we are all happy we reached a cease fire and democrats are extolling it as they should. that included negotiating with, guess who, putin. that's what democrats have done. that's what hillary clinton tried to do when she glee submitted the red button as a reset button to the foreign minister of russia. >> are you putting yourself in a position that you know more of john mccain who is a war hero and knows a ton about foreign
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policy? if he has a question and is concerned about what donald trump is saying about someone like putin, shund it concern all of us. >> no. >> it is not concerning to you. >> what concerns me is a lot of these folks, hillary clinton being number one, have had the wrong judgment on every foreign policy area and yet we should all hold her up as being the most experienced. >> no, no, let's fact check that. >> let's get -- >> the iraq war. >> wrong on iraq war. >> libya, he was for that. no he's not on record opposing it. he's not on record opposing it. >> my democratic friends drive me nuts base because they resist facts as if they're the plague. >> it is a lie. >> let me give you a fact. >> stop, stop, stop. there is no -- >> let me give you a fact. >> there's no proof that donald trump opposed the war before the war started. maybe personally he did. >> may i give it to you? >> there's nothing on record that shows that. >> on record with neil cavuto where he says -- maybe we shouldn't do it right now. he is on record the day of the
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war saying it is a mess. guess who was for the war until two years ago? hillary clinton, hillary clinton. >> hold on, stop, stop, i have a commitment to the american people and the viewers watching that is not true. if you look at the kneel cavuto interview he does not specifically say he opposes the war. >> maybe we shouldn't do this now. >> there is nowhere. >> hillary clinton was a war amonger, going to war. >> let me finish my point, kayleigh. that's indeed false. >> true. >> he is nowhere on the record. >> he is on the record with neil cavuto. >> you know what the difference is. >> she wanted a fact check so we're fact checking. >> hillary clinton served on the senate armed services committee. she had access to classified information that she was aware of prior to going to making a vote in support of a war which she favored. you know what donald trump was at the time? a private businessman who was reading the "new york times" and "the washington post" and saying, i don't think. >> we know, corey.
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>> the difference is -- >> it doesn't mean that you can't tell the truth about it. >> the difference is when you have access to information that the general public doesn't have, you should be able to make a better decision before -- >> you're absolutely right about that. >> and hillary clinton -- >> i would say indeed that is true, but to say donald trump is on record opposing the war before it started is not true. >> i know democrats resisting convenient facts but i'll put up the video. >> wait a minute, wait a minute. hold on, bakari, hold on one second. i can't -- >> go on. >> don, i can't deal with this. kayleigh, you know i love you dearly. you cannot continue to say the democrats resist facts. that is laughable. your candidate is actually allergic -- >> i'm sitting here with the facts. >> he is allergic to facts. there's a cnn pie chart they just put out where trump's pie chart is two-thirds false. >> fact checkers -- i'm giving you a quote, angela. i'm not sure how it is not a
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quote. quotes are fact. i will give you a quote, before the iraq war, quote, maybe we shouldn't do this right now. that is a fact. >> kayleigh, maybe you shouldn't. >> it happened, you can say it didn't happen. >> maybe we shouldn't go down the rabbit hole. doesn't mean i'm committed to it. i'm telling you cnn demonstrated, the network we are paid by, has demonstrated donald trump lies most of the time, and hillary clinton's numbers are almost exactly the opposite. >> let me read this. >> it is not a liberal fact check. this is the network we work. >> stand by everyone. we are talking about facts here. all right. here is the thing. trump dialed back -- dial that back a bit in another interview, january of 2003. cavuto asked whether bush should be more focused on iraq or the economy. here is a kwet, well, he has to do something or not do something perhaps, because perhaps shouldn't be doing it yet. >> doing it right now, what i said. >> in fact we should be waiting for the united nation.
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trump said he is under a lot of pressure, doing a good job, but if you look at the polls a lot of people are getting a little tired. i think the iraq situation is a problem and the economy is a bigger problem as far as the president is concerned. and so that is not -- >> that is what i said. perhaps we shouldn't do this right now, that's fact. >> perhaps is not saying we shouldn't be doing it right now. >> can i finish? . of? did i finish going through the litany of bad decisions you like to say hillary clinton has made? because libya. >> i have to go, bakari. >> he was before -- we are into the next show now. we are in the next show now. thanks everybody. thank you, good night.
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