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phi may just say, i have spoken with several young people carde, key aria, they're stay with me a long time. once we pack up it's the stories of these youth, how they feel on these streets, how they need to feel invested in how things need to change, how they want a sense of hope. how they feel they are now experiencing history here in baltimore. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you so much for being with me. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. breaking news right now. a press conference from baltimore. police union representatives set to begin at any moment. this will be the first time we hear from police since this morning's massive developments. we will bring those press statements to you live as they happen. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. live, again, from baltimore, maryland. today for the first time in weeks we actually saw smiles on
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the streets of baltimore. some of the people in this town are celebrating. they're shouting that justice is winning. today, 19 days after police tossed freddie gray in the back of that police van, the baltimore city state's attorney shocked the citizens of this city say she has found probable cause to charge six police officers in the death of 25-year-old freddie gray saying his arrest was illegal, and his death was a homicide. state's attorney marilyn mosby saying four of the six officers will be charged with manslaughter among other charges, but the driver of the van, officer caesar goodson, faces the most serious, the most damning. he stands accused of second-degree murder. others say this move by the prosecutor may have been rushed and the facts do not bear out what she's charged. live to the press conference at fraternal order of police headquarters right now. >> frustrated this morning as
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events and information announced by the state's attorney. we are disappointed in the apparent rush to judgment given the fact the investigation into this matter has not been concluded. our officers like every other american citizen, are entitled to due process. we will continue to support them throughout this judicial process which we believe will result in a finding of innocence. we also promise all active duty officers that we will continue to work diligently to ensure that you will receive the necessary support from the fop to enable you to complete your mission safely. at this time i will turn it over to our attorney, mike davy. >> good afternoon. my name is michael davy. i'm an attorney representing baltimore city fraternal order of police lodge 3. myfirm has been retained to represent lieutenant rice and i'm here today to speak on behalf of all of the officers and their legal representation.
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in my 20 years career as a law enforcement officer and 16 years as an attorney i have never seen such a hurdried rush to file criminal charges i believe are driven by forces separate and apart from the application of law and the facts of this case as we know them. no one condones police misconduct. this is especially true of the entire fop membership including my client who was a 17-year veteran of this department, who is has dedicated his life to serving the public. let me state in no uncertain terms that lieutenant rice and all of the officers involved at all times acted reasonably and in accordance with their training as baltimore police officers. no officer injured mr. gray caused harm to mr. gray and they are truly saddened by his death. these officers did nothing wrong. as all of the facts surrounding this case come out in the
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appropriate forum, the officers lack of wrongdoing will be made abundantly clear. we believe the actions taken today by the state's attorney are an egregious rush to judgment and grave concerns about the fairness in prosecution of our officers. let me reiterate two things. lieutenant rice and all of the officers are deeply affected by mr. gray's passing, and that his injuries did not occur as a result of any action or inaction on the part of these officers. it is our intention to try this case in the courtroom and not the media. these statements have been made in an effort to protect all of the officers from undue prejudicial effective publicity surrounding this case. we believe that these officers will be vindicated as they have done nothing wrong. at this time i'd turn it over to lieutenant kenneth butler president of the vanguard
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justice tote. society. >> good afternoon. my name is kenneth butler. i'm a lieutenant with baltimore city police. as a member of the baltimore city police department for 29 years i should begin by saying that we are extremely frustrated and shocked by the circumstances that have transpired today. as baltimore police officers we are not at odds with the community. let me repeat that. we are not at odds with the community. in fact we are sworn to protect the community and those who are protesting against the six officers involved in this case. our organization has supported these officers since the beginning of this difficult situation and we will continue to do so. thank you. >> at this time, we'll take very limited questions. >> a special prosecutor this morning, is that -- are you
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still hoping the state's attorney will appoint a special prosecutor? >> we're still hoping that is reviewed by an independent prosecutor. >> what kind of conflicts do you see, mr. -- that you outlined in your letter between -- [ inaudible ] and the attorney in [ inaudible ]. >> i already made my statement. and the statement speaks for itself. i have no further comments on that. >> conflicts -- >> i have no further comments. i already put a statement out. >> you say the officer did nothing. [ inaudible ] they should have buckled him in nap. that was not a failure -- >> i'm saying there may well be a failure in the policy and the facts will come out as we move forward. >> mr. davy there is a report just tweeted out. according to baltimore police department sources they're telling a reporter [ inaudible ] said the medical examiner switched the ruling on gray's death from accidental to homicide after quote/unquote -- [ inaudible ]. >> i have no information about
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that. i have no knowledge of that. we have yet to see a preliminary autopsy report we've never seen the final autopsy report interviewed and spoke with anybody at the interviewer's office so i can't comment on that an exhaustive investigation really it's ongoing, what elements are not [ inaudible ]. >> until we see what they've done, i can't answer that. i can't speculate as to what they did or didn't do. i just find it very difficult that it's not a rush to judgment when conducting a case in which someone has been charged with second-degree murder they can wrap it up in two weeks. that's all i can say. >> responsible to mr. gray's death? >> until i see the investigative file until we get the discovery in this case i can't answer that question. >> president ryan can you speak to the mood of the reports that officers the morale is very low? criticism of the mayor -- [ inaudible ] can you speak to the mood of the officers and how they're doing? >> like i said, i'm sure they're disappointed.
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i haven't been out and talked with them yet. to see exactly what the mood is. with that i can tell you they're not happy. this is going to -- this decision to charge them officers is going to make our job even harder. i can say that. >> mr. davy just this morn the state's attorney said that the knife found on freddie gray was legal. it wasn't a switch blade. you said, a week ago had had not had a knife or legal weapon on him he would have been released after the proper pa paperwork was done. >> i have not seen the nice and that determination will be made by a judge and jury as to whether or not there was probable cause. >> that statement was premature? >> i don't believe it was premature. based on information that i knew then and i knee now. >> have the officers been forthcoming with nnks because we just learned about this additional stop on thursday? >> the officers have been forthcoming and cooperating in this investigation. that's all i can say about that
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at this point. >> the officers races and addresses? >> no. for their own safety, i will not do that. >> what about this -- protestors basically they [ inaudible ]. >> i'm not going to get caught up into the politics. that's what's getting us i believe, here today. >> do you believe that it's politically motivated, that the medical examiner [ inaudible ] do you think he has -- >> i cannot even think about commenting on that nor would i. >> what's the problem of [ inaudible ]. >> i'm sorry? >> what then is the political motivation? >> i believe that the publicity in this case is driving force to a rush to judgment and causing this prosecution to move so quickly. that's it. thank you very much. >> you just heard from baltimore police union representatives, specifically gene ryan of fop lodge 3, attorney michael davy and then lieutenant kenneth butler of the vanguard justice society. three representatives of the police force here in baltimore saying they've never seen such a
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rush to bring charges against police. the attorney there, mr. davy suggesting it was politics that resulted in what happened today, in the announcement from the state's attorney that the officers in his view, did nothing wrong. no officer caused harm to mr. gray, he said. bring in cnn justice reporter evan perez and also cnn's senior washington correspondent joe johns at the police staging area, also here in baltimore. evan, let me start with you. it may not be a rush to judgment but this announcement from the state's attorney did come quicker than a lot of people expected. >> you know 24 hours ago, jake the police commissioner anthony batts, in his press conference said that he expected more investigation to take place, that this case was far from over. we now know that this state attorney was doing her own work, that she brought in outside investigators on her own, and that frankly, she was ready to bring charges. she barely got these, the
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evidence from the police yesterday, and this morning she gets the, she got the autopsy report from the medical examiner, and she was ready to go. so she clearly, you know she'd been doing all her work all along. >> evan what is the status of the six officers being charged with these crimes that range up to second-degree murder? earlier today five of them were in custody. the other one was not. what's the status now? >> we were just over at the booking central here in baltimore. we're told all six have been brought in, being processed, and we should hear whether or not they're going to be released immediately, or whether or not they're going to have further bail hearing. jake? >> all right. and one other note. while the charges the state's attorney brought forward today pleased a lot of people in this town, we should note convicting these officers is a whole other matter. some of the charges, you and i were talking, may even have been brought in an attempt to get officers to flip on their fellow
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officers in the case? >> you know, that's often, you know, what happens in these cases. you have six officers. some of them charged with lesser charges. that's certainly encouraging them. if you're a lawyer for some of the officers charged with some of the lesser crimes, that's your strategy. you want to get separated from certainly from officer caesar goodson, the driver, and who's the one facing the second-degree murder charge. 30 years if convicted. >> much more on the legal status of this case but let me go to joe johns who's at the police staging area here in baltimore. what more can you tell us about the specific charges? what are the particulars of what each officer stands accused of having done? >> reporter: right. so let's go through it. the charges against officer caesar goodson, the driver of the transport van, are the most serious. he's charged with second-degree depraved heart murder which means indifference to human life. it does as of i said carry a
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possible sentence of 30 years, evan said and also charged with involuntary manslaughter. manslaughter by vehicle which is is a criminal negligence count add well as misconduct in office. of the three bicycle officers lieutenant brian rice was charged with involuntary manslaughter rice and officers garrett miller as well as ed werd nero charged with illegally arresting gray. the prosecutor said the officers who arrived on the scene, william porter and sergeant alicia white failed to give gray medical assistance and failed to strap him in to the police van. both of them are charged with involuntary manslaughter and misconduct in office. so these are very serious charges, jake. >> all right. joe johns, evan perez, thank you both. so much. i want to go now to cnn justice correspondent pamela brown. pamela, this morning most of us
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in the media thought the state's attorney would come out and say the investigation is ongoing. instead, she dropped a bombshell and sent a very clear message in her words, no swun aone is above the law. justice does not discriminate even against police officers. >> right, jake. it really was a bombshell announcement from baltimore the chief prosecutor. she came out said all six officers involved were complicit in freddie gray's death, first failing to seat belt gray in the van and second denying him medical help multiple times. even before he was put 2349 van, prosecutors said they committed a crime. >> we have probable cause to file criminal charges. >> reporter: baltimore state's attorney marilyn mosby not mincing words, saying even before police officers placed freddie gray inside the police van -- he never should have been arrested. >> no crime has been committed by mr. gray.
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>> reporter: gray was found carrying a knife, but the prosecutor said it was legal. >> mr. gray was then placed in a prone position with his arms handcuffed behind his back. it was at this time that mr. gray indicated that he could not breathe. and requested an inhaler to no avail. >> reporter: mosby says they no longer got medical help made a grave mistake putting him in this police van. >> at no point secured by a seat belt in the wagon. >> reporter: the van drove away from the scene. while the exact route is unknown, made its first stop here. where officers took gray out of the van to put shackles on his legs and flex cuffs on his wrists. >> officer miller officer nero and lieutenant rice then loaded mr. gray back into the wagon. placing him on his stomach, head first on to the floor of the wagon. once again, mr. gray was not secured by a seat belt in the wagon. >> reporter: the officer driving the van made another stop here.
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>> despite stopping for the purpose of checking on mr. gray's condition, and at no point did he seek nor did he render any medical assistance for mr. gray. >> reporter: several blocks later, the driver stopped for a third time and three other officers arrived to check on gray. >> mr. gray at that time requested help. and indicated that he could not breathe. officer porter asked mr. gray if he need add medic, at which time mr. gray indicated, at least twice, that he was in need of a medic. >> reporter: mosby says the officers did not call a medic, and once again failed to seat belt gray. the van's driver decided to move on. at this fourth stop donte allen put on the other side of a metal partition. >> the only thing i heard, little banging. i thought someone was over there banging his head or something. >> reporter: modesby says gray was once again neglected. >> sargent alicia white, officer
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porter and officer goodson observed mr. gray unresponsive on the floor of the wagon. >> reporter: but it wasn't until 25 minutes later when the van reached the police station that a medic was called. at that point, she says gray was in cardiac arrest and not breathing. the medical examiner and prosecutor concluded gray's death was a homicide. >> mr. gray suffered a severe and critical neck injury as a result of being handcuffed shackled by his feet and unrestrained inside of the bpd wagon. >> all six officers are facing criminal charges we've learned, including assault and misconduct. all six in police custody. jake, far from over. we heard earlier from the attorney of one of the officers who said this was an egregious rush to judgment by the prosecutor and plans to fight the charges. jake? >> all right. pamela brown, thank you so much. today's announcement inbaltimore of are the charge of six police officers charged in freddie gray's death came quickly.
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welcome back to "the lead." live from baltimore, you're looking at images from all over this city. not a riot, a revolution, says one. just a few near city hall. a lot of protests. in the minutes after state's attorney marilyn mosby unveiled the charges against the six police officers in the death, homicide she said of freddie gray those who have been marching in the name of justice for gray demonstrated a mixture of emotions. there was surprise.
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there was relief. excitement, exhilaration but raw angst, too, misgivings concern that beyond this case much in baltimore, indeed much in the united states, still needs to change. cnn's brian todd is swimming in a sea of marchers right now. brian, what are the people saying in your crowd? >> reporter: well jake right now we're more than five hours into what has been a very peaceful very joyous celebration of the announcement of those charges today. these people have been out here since just before maybe 11:00 this morning. celebrating, giving -- across the street giving test monnial ialtestimonials on a loud speaker. positive and celebratory. the police have i'd say, a large presence out here but are not kind of in their face with it. they're giving people their space. they are allowing them to even come out into a lane of this street of north avenue here and celebrate, and express themselves and right now
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they've, what they've done try to keep this a functioning intersection and set up cones to, you know, to have police officers be more able to direct traffic and just keep the traffic rolling through here. so that's what they have done. jake, a lot of these protestors have been out here we've seen a lot of the same people coming out here. some of the same people who have taken part in the marches that have just gone throughout this city for miles and miles at a time. i see some of those same people out here expressing relief, but also saying they're not quite satisfied yet. they won't be completely satisfied unless there are convictions in this case but for now, right now, on this friday, they are celebrating, jake. >> all right, brian todd. thank you so much. i want to go right now to cnn's miguel marquez,alities out there in the thick of it all. miguel where you are in baltimore, how are people reacting? what is the mood? >> reporter: yeah this is the
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neighborhood where mr. gray was arrested and eventually basically died at the police station. what started off as a riot and looting this week it has literally become a street party here. but make no mistake about it. i want to show you this. these are police officers from montgomery county who i rived and they are still on patrol as well. for this group here today's charges -- let me ask you guys. the charges today. are you happy about the charges today? >> oh yes. >> yeah. >> we satisfied. >> reporter: satisfied with the charges, but do you think these officers will be convicted? >> they? custody. >> go to break. after the break. >> and -- >> reporter: but do you think they'll be convicted? >> throw away the key! throw away the key, man. >> lil kris on the radio. over here. justice. >> this is the concern i hear across the neighborhood. people are very very happy for the charges today. do they think a conviction will happen? they are very doubtful. they are hoping that at some
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point they will see that conviction as well. you know how these things go. always very difficult to tell but for now literally, a street party. the mood has completely changed from one of lockdown and curfew to absolute celebration. jake? >> all right, miguel marquez in west baltimore. thank you so much. a quick break. coming up a change in tone for demonstrations of course but her stern announcement to charge six officers set off a social media avalanche, and also had many asking just who is this state's attorney? who is marilyn mosby? at 35 years old, the youngest chief prosecutor in the major u.s. city. we'll take a closer look at her and her story coming up.
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper and live from baltimore. looking at that's basically my view right to my right here. a peaceful rally. not a protest, more of a celebration. many residents of baltimore, used to frustration, stubnned pleasantly stunned by the state's attorney to charge six police officers in the death of freddie gray. in the next 24 hour the
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officers will be processed at central bookinging and have their bail hearings. and keith haines represents some of the city including western baltimore and southwest baltimore. sir, thank you so much for being here. were you surprised by the state's attorney announcement this morning? >> surprised number one with the times. >> it was so quick? >> very quick and i think one of the reasons for that is the availability of the medical examiner's autopsy report. that report came back i think, much quicker than many people expected, and with the medical examiner's report ruling death by homicide i think that was the linchpin that the state's attorney needed to go ahead and make the ultimate decision to file charges against the officers in the case. >> in addition to being a delegate you're an attorney. >> yes. >> this won't necessarily be the easiest case in the world to get convictions of all six officers? >> well i think you have to look at a couple of things. number one the charges in the
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case. all six officers are not charged with the same crimes so to speak. >> right. >> and i think the most serious one is probably the braveheart murder. >> second-degree murder for the driver. >> yeah. down to some of the assault charges as well. so it's going to depend upon the evidence. pts going to depend upon the level of charges, but i can tell you that based on the information that we are seeing that has not been a lot, per se because it has been an ongoing investigation, but apparently she has reviewed that information, and believed that she has enough evidence for a conviction in this case. >> now we've heard a lot of negligence charges being used by the state's attorney but then second-degree murder depraved heart murder, she didn't use the term, a rough ride. these infamous occurrences when
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police put people in a van and then start and stop, start and stop and banging them up. is that your impression may have happened the case she's trying to build? >> based on the information so far, i would look at first of all the definition of depraved heart murder. that in layman's terms it's also called willful and wanton murder meaning number one you have to realize you're engaged in such behavior that carries a high risk and then you have a disregard for the value of human life and continue to engage in that conduct. so the evidence must rise to that level, whether it's continuing to -- the ride in the vehicle, or other things that may not have come out in the report or in the investigation that is sufficient to meet that level of conduct. >> and we'll see. we'll see when they brings it out and we see more evidence. delegate haynes, thank you so much.
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you can hear the crowd chanting no justice, no peace, to my right. outside city hall here in baltimore. it took marilyn mosby 20 minutes to announce the charge against the six police officers allegedly arrested in freddie gray's prosecution and death. how did this come at the same time she got the report an expedited review of evidence may have worked in her favor and who this woman is, coming up next. financial noise financial noise financial noise financial noise
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welcome book to "the lead." live from baltimore, where we have been witnessing a wide rangs of emotions in reaction to the news that six police officers have been charged in the homicide of 25-year-old freddie gray. not long after baltimore state's attorney marilyn mosby made they nounsment her name started trending in social media. along with the newfound celebrity will come public scrutiny for the 35-year-old city prosecutor barely 100 days
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into her new job. on the job for fewer than four months baltimore state attorney marilyn mosby was hailed on the streets of baltimore friday. for confronting one of the ugliest cases this city has seen in recent memory. >> the findings of our comprehensive, thorough and independent investigation coupled with the medical examiner's dermantermination that mr. gray's death wag a homicide which we received today led us to believe we have probable cause to file criminal charges. >> reporter: only 35 years old, the youngest chief prosecutor of any major american city mosby spoke directly to a region still very much on edge and coming to terms with the events of the past few weeks, after the death of freddie gray. >> to the people of baltimore, and the demonstrators across america, i heard your call for no justice, no peace. your peace is sincerely needed
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as i work to deliver justice on behalf of this young man. >> reporter: mosby knows the world of being a police officer. >> i come five generations of law enforcement. my father was an officer. my mother was an officer. several of my aunts and uncles. my recently departed and beloved grandfather was one of the founding members of the first black police organization in massachusetts. >> reporter: after a brief stand as council for an insurance company, many surprised many beating in the democratic primary pt mosby is married to her college sweetheart a city councilman representing the neighborhood where freddie gray was arrested. >> she's my wife. she's a strong woman. she was built for this. >> reporter: despite that connection mosby does not see a conflict of interest prosecuting the case.
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a special prosecutor has been called to be appointed because of a connection. >> he works on the legislative side. i am a public servants and upold the laws. he makes the laws. i will prosecute any case within my jurisdiction. >> mosby did not mince words today saying it was about more than justice for freddie gray but preventing any future freddie grays. >> what do you think needs to be done to make sure what happened to freddie gray doesn't happen again? >> accountability. you're getting it today. >> reporter: it should be noted the fraternal odor of police in baltimore has called for marilyn mosby to recuse herself from the case. not only because of her husband, but because of her ties to a family attorney for the gray family, billy murphy. let's talk about this case now. we have a microphone because the protest here is growing a lot louder. the rally. i'm joined by cnn legal analyst sunny hosten and cnn senior
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legal analyst jeffrey touchen along with pathologist serialcyril wecht. suggesting charges came unusually quick in case of this nature and accusations politics motivated the decision we heard today. is it unusual, jeffrey, for a case like this to already have resulted in charges not even two weeks after the death? >> yes. it is unusual. it was surprising to me. i certainly was expecting a longer wait. but that doesn't mean the charges don't have validity. this was a very quick action by the prosecutor and i think only when we see these charges tested in court will we know whether there was an inappropriate rush to judgment. certainly her statement today was a summary of the evidence she has, but we'll only know when it's tested in court. >> sunny, the driver of the
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transport van was charged not only with second-degree murder but manslaughter by vehicle. we assume that the prosecutor is leaning in to the idea that freddie gray got a so-called rough ride in philadelphia. they're calmed nickel rides. other sides, joyrides these jerky, violent rides that bang prisoners up. how can that be proved? >> you know, i think that you're right. i think when you look at the charges, because she charged not only manslaughter by vehicle, she also charged him with second-degree depraved heart murder which tells me that she believes that he is one of the worst actors here because the depraved heart means that he intentionally will fully, deliberately acted with depraved indifference to human life in his actions, and so i think that she's got to prove, certainly, there was this rough ride and the way you prove that is not
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only through testimony. i suspect she's going to get one or two or perhaps even more of the officers to turn state's evidence and testify against the driver. she can also use a lot of the forensic information garnered from the medical examiner's reports and experts to prove that a rough ride existed. >> cyril, could anything in the autopsy prove that freddie gray's injuries were not sustained by the result of his own actions? as some police leaks to the media seem to be suggesting? there seem to be a suggestion a few days ago in a different media outlet perhaps he was banging his own head against the van's walls. how could that be proven or disproven? >> well, i've read the statements from the officials. this man had his legs shackled and his hands cuffed and he was placed in a prone position. pray tell how was he running
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around and banging himself in the van? i've been saying this for 48 hours or more before i even learned about this. this is the most egregious case in modern times that i can think of from the very beginning. they placed him in a hard-type position. prone, and brought his hands back behind him. they briefly sat him up and then placed him in that position again. when they put him into the van, they placed him again into a full hog-tied position prone, face down legs shackled hands brought -- that procedure was banned more than 20 years ago. where have these officers been? the international association of police chiefs, the royal canadian police force, of police force in every metropolitan city has talked about not having the hog-tied position. he's in that position yelling, screaming for help and his body inert. there's the velocity.
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you have asked, how will this be proven? those injuries are not pathological fractures, not brittle bones and osteoporosis. these injuries came as that body fraught back and forth breaking vertebrae in the neck and eventually severing the spinal cord. this is an open and shut case and you'll have no problem, i guarantee you, the prosecution, in finding police expert procedure people around and forensic pathologists to put this together. there is no alternative explanation for how these injuries were sustained, and when they were incurred. >> wow. wow. jake, can i just say that cyril, i think, is getting a little ahead of the game here, calling this an open and shut case. these officers may well be convicted, and we will see this in court, but we have not heard their side of the story. we have not heard the explanation for what sort of injuries he may have suffered outside the police van, before he got in. so i just think it's worth
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pausing, recognize how serious these charges are, but to say that this is an open and shut case at this point, i'm certainly not willing to go there, though i defer to the great cyril wecht on many things. >> one comment if i may make sir, about -- >> thank you. >> when the injuries occurred but the injuries had not oh you are canoccurred when mr. gray was running away. if the injuries were sustained, they were sustained again by the police in their stopping him and then you get back to the whole business why was he stopped and why was it necessary to place him in a prone position? and if they did produce injuries and they well may have it would have been because they were compressing and they will leaning into his back producing quite possibly the initial fractures of a lineal non-displaced nature then significantly aggravated by that inert body flopping around in the van. >> all right. gentlemen, we'll continue this conversation in my chambers.
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i want to thank cyril wecht and jeffrey toobin and sunny hostin here in boston. much more to talk about this in the days and weeks ahead. coming up just what are the conditions for prisoner in police vans? turns out so-called rough rides not all that unusual. plus the crowd around me growing larger and more jubilant by the minute. what is expected tonight? stay with us. here at friskies, cats are in charge of approving every new recipe. because it's cats who know best what cats like to eat.
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welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper reporting live from baltimore. just a few feet away from a large group. it's not a group of protestors, but they're rallying, they're happy. they're celebratory. they're excited about the fact that six police officers now face charges in the death, the homicide according to the state's attorney, of freddie gray. cell phone video, of course captured what appears to be a badly injured gray being loaded into a police van on april 12th, but what caused his spinal cord to server in police custody?
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specifically what action happened to cause that remain as mystery. some suggested he was subject to a prohibitive ride, in philadelphia calm add nickel ride. other cities call it a joy ride when a handcuffed prisoner is placed in a police vehicle, not buckled in and taken for an intentionally jerky and bumpy drive with a series of stops and starts causing potentially serious harm. cnn's tom foreman is live in washington with that part of the story. tom, how common are these so-called rough rides? >> reporter: jake, there are no statistics. you can imagine the police under the circumstances don't want to talk about it much, but plenty of other people are. >> ah! >> reporter: after so much focus on video of what happened outside the police van, the state's attorney is now saying freddie gray was fatally injured inside when officers failed to take his safety into account. >> placing him on his stomach, head first on to the floor of the wagon. once again, mr. gray was not secured by a seat belt.
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>> reporter: no seat belt. something the police department says was unacceptable. metal seats, little padding, with both arms and lengths restrained the back of a police wagon can be a deadly holding cell. >> you can hit potholes and bump somebody around, or you can, you know take it up a notch or two and you know maneuver the van in a way to really hurt someone. >> reporter: trips like this are called rough rides, and former nypd detective harold thomas says they have a long history as a hands-off way for police to punish unruly passengers. >> i guess you could say i gave someone a rough ride. this is -- things that are just tort. >> manslaughter by vehicle. >> reporter: driving the vehicle colour manslaughter in baltimore are allegations that officers failed to safely and properly restrain gray at least five times over the span of four separate stops. >> they didn't want to reach over him. >> reporter: one of the officers relatives who wishes to remain
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anonymous told cnn securing gray reportedly very agitated, would have been dangerous. >> he still has his teeth, and he still has -- in order to seat belt somebody you have to get in their personal space. they're not going to get in his personal space if he's already irate. >> reporter: still, rough rides can have horrendous consequences. >> i'm imprisoned my my own body. >> reporter: this man broke his neck riding with police in 1997 awarded $39 million after a jury found officers were responsible and ended up settling with the city for $6 million. donde johnson seen here in a eerily similar to grg grg. -of-freddie gray. an appeals court reduced the award to $219,000. >> just sliding around in there.
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it was all metal, you know, nothing -- i couldn't hold on toing in. my hands behind my back. >> reporter: christine abbott 27-year-old librarian shows her injuries after a 2012 arrest and ride in a police wagon. she's now suing in federal court. >> very bumpy and quite scary. >> reporter: and in the case of freddie gray if that's what happened, it may also have been fatal. and you can bet we're going to hear those words, rough ride, many times as all of this heads into the court. jake? >> okay. we're going to do it all? thank you, tom foreman. appreciate it. you may recall earlier this week at the height of tensions with riots erupts here in baltimore we met a vietnam veteran by the name of robert valentine, had the courage to put himself sbeenbetween a crowd of protestors, rioters and police. he calmed it a dishonor to his memory and mr. valentine joins me live. also here someone we've met this week and last week reverend
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jamal bryant a key figure leading protests pushing for peaceful protests. first off, mr. valentine, thank you for your service and your service in vietnam for our country and elsewhere. >> thank you. >> what do you make of the announcement today and for you what's the most important thing that baltimore keeps in mind going forward? >> that they have not let this make them fall down but to stand um and bind together and unite. now, you have doing that thing with her son. moi toyas need to come home get their children and take them home out of this. my generation, it's time for us to take a vacation. we got to pass it on to the next generation, to the generation after them. this generation behind me has to step up lead and show the young ones behind how to come up and be better than them and the generation now needs to be better than me and succeed further. >> reverend, what's your reaction to the news from the state's attorney that they're going to be charges against these six police officers? >> i'm in shock therapy.
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nobody was looking for this to happen on today. and it's really mixed emotions if you really look at it from a panoramic perspective. one, a sigh of relief for the community, but it ought to be a disappointment to america that we're shocked that the system actually works. and it really says that the protesting is not in vain, because had not the incident been videotaped had we not con verpg converged and drawn national attention, another faceless, nameless victim. we're thankful it's finally disposed and on the road to healing. >> in other words, you think that the marches had an effect? that there was political pressure in your view for good? >> if it weren't for the marches, none of you all would be here. we've been dealing with it last year. there were 211 holds. 187 of those were black men, to no fanfare, no hash tags and no background stories. so it's bigger than just freddie gray as an individual. it's symbolic and that's why you're seeing people marching in
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philadelphia chicago, new york because we all cannot -- and d.c. -- we all can identify with the issue. >> reverend thank you for being here and as always, mr. valentine valentine, thanks for your service again. we'll going toend the show. the family of freddie gray will have a press conference any second. and that over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." have is a great and peaceful weekend. happening now murder charge in a stunning announcement. baltimore's prosecutor says the death of freddie gray was a homicide. six police officers face serious charges, and for one of them that includes second-degree murder. we want to welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we are standing by for a news conference. the first time freddie gray's family and the family attorney will be making a statement
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reacting to the stunning news today that six police officers in baltimore, they have been arrested and are about to be charged with complicity various aspects in connection with the death of freddie gray. the 25-year-old who died in police custody. a stunning development today. the family getting ready for this statement. the attorney as well. they're about to walk in to this news conference. this will be the beginning of their reaction. we see family members and others walking to the microphones right now. we're going to hear what they have to say. among those who will be speaking including freddie gray's stepfather, richard shipley. and billy murphy jr., the attorney for the family. let's get ready. let's listen in. there's the stepfather, richard shipley.