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and we have to move faster. to learn more or support the cause, go to huntsmancancer.org. hello, everyone you're in the cnn newsroom. breaking news on cnn right now, more than 1400 people are dead in a massive earthquake and that number will probably rise considerably in the coming hours. it happened in nepal shs the small hymn lay yan country between china and india. the earthquake was massive measuring 7.8 and it continued to send aftershocks for hours and even kill people climbing mount everest. it happened at noon local time. buildings collapsing into rubble
in the capital of kathmandu. roads buckled throughout the country. it is nighttime now and there's no way to know how many people are still trapped. a reporter with abc news australia and a fellow for the international reporting project is in kathmandu right now. it's about 1:45 in the morning. it's dark where you are. can you set the scene for us and what's happening there around you? >> reporter: that's right, it's the dead of night here in nepal. we're still experiencing aftershocks almost -- more than 12 hours after the initial quake, which was 7.9 magnitude. now most of the people are too scared to return to their homes or they don't have homes to return to so around the city of kathmandu there are thousands of people sleeping on the streets
tonight after a traumatizing day. we have seen history crumble in front of our eyes and mount everest itself was shaken by the disaster. the earthquake met to the destruction of several very historic world heritages sites. there was tragedy at base camp where eight trekkers have been pulled from an avalanche dead. there were avalanches at mount everest. and kathmandu, the heavily populated capital of the country has experienced devastation as well. more than 1,000 people have been killed. i watched bodies being pulled from the ruins of a very historic temple complex in the south of the city this afternoon. i was there taking photographs as the earthquake began. it was extremely violent and
sent thousands of people both locals and tourists running for their lives. >> that's just incredible. we're looking at these images. you're reporting that you actually saw bodies being pulled from the rubble. i want to ask you about the resources there. we have been hearing stories about people tourists locals getting in and trying to pull people out themselves because the authorities on the ground are stretched for resources. is that what you're seeing as well? >> reporter: that's absolutely right. in infrastructure is scarce here in nepal. the army and police had a minimal presence. it was kind of apparent in the aftermath of the quake, but essentially it was locals banding together and tourists in some cases as well jumping into the piles of rubble and clearing it with their hands, with picks, shovels and trying to get. through the mess and look to survivors. unfortunately where i was in the royal square historic complex, there were no survivors
discovered at all. it was an extremely violent quake. there were no options in terms of places where people could run to safety. 12 bodies were pulled from that area. it's mostly the historic sites. many of them are world heritage listed. many of them were destroyed previously in 1934 when there was another huge earthquake that killed 10,000 people. >> let me jump in there. if i could ask you more about the people. where is everyone sleeping? obviously, a lot of people scared about these aftershocks. you reported you felt a few already. there's been dozens of large aftershocks thereafter. also the kind of aid that the people need there. there's no power and communication is very difficult to get out. >> that's right, the communications network is not particularly reliable here in kathmandu and other parts away
from the capital it's even more difficult to make any communication at all. the cell network is down power is down outside of the capital. but in kathmandu, people were sleeping in the open any green space, any large open roadway they can find. the public transport network was in complete chaos. there were no taxis or public buss for workers and >> all right, we really appreciate you keeping us
updated. please stay safe. this was a violent earthquake. the people in nepal need help. some of that is on its way right now. thank you. if you want to help head to cnn.com/impact. there you'll find groups working to help the people of nepal. back here in the united states hundreds of protesters have gathered in baltimore. they are marching through the city and calling for the immediate arrests of any officers who played a role in the death of freddie gray. miguel marquez is there with the marchers. what's happening right now? >> reporter: i can tell you this protest has swelled from hundreds to thousands. this is right in front of orioles park where thousands of people are walking through the streets. they had walked through the neighborhood of gilmore holmes for some time and came down toward downtown towards city hall. this is the first time they have
seen police officers, any police presence on this walk. you can see the police here lined up at orioles park. this is as baltimore as it gets. it's a huge symbol and they saw the police officers lined up along the baseball park they headed for it. my guess is they will stay here for some time and then move on. there were police cars parked down the way. they took the chance to pound on them a little bit, but for the most part it is angry, but peaceful. people are marching for the 25-year-old who was killed here in police custody or after he was in police custody. and they say it is time for that to stop. a long storied history, a controversial history between the citizens of this town and its own police force. the people here it must be 2,000 strong at this point will be marching on. we believe they are headed to
city hall and will head back to the western district police station where mr. gray was taken and 911 finally called. >> 2,000 strong there in the crowd. let me ask you about yesterday's news conference. we heard from the pligs commissioner. the officers failed to give the timely medical care he had been asking for. he also said there were no excuses that he was not buck.led into a seat belt. a pretty defiant statement from the baltimore order of police. it says, quote, we are disappointed in the comments made by commissioner bats. they appear to be politically driven and in direct contrast not to jump to any conclusions until the entire. investigation is complete. we stand in support of all of our officers as they continue to protect the citizens of baltimore city. so you have two conflicting opinions here.
miguel are play lining up behind fellow officers? you spent a lot of time withthe protesters. any middle ground emergeing or is there a dividing line between police and the citizens which is getting worse? >> reporter: not yet, everything we hear about the city government and how it is operating right now, the mayor and the police commissioner are concerned because of this. if you could pan off here this crowd has grown throughout the week. this is probably the seventh day now they have taken to the streets. they promise to take the streets every day until they get justice. the investigation into this has been too slow by their standards, by what people here want to see. the government has tried to tell people that they have to go through that process. >> the key is the protests are peaceful. thank you. by now most of us have seen various videos that show bits and pieces of what happened on april 12th, the day freddie gray
was arrested. they stitched the images together to get a better understanding of what exactly happened. nick valencia has a timeline. >> reporter: early morning april 12th 2015. freddie gray is arrested after a police foot pursuit. shown here on cell phone video, gray is in handcuffs as police escort him into the back of a police van. the answer to what kills gray lies in what happens next. >> we found new information and we will continue to find more information as we go. skblr at a news conference this week, baltimore police announced the release of what they say are a series of surveillance cameras that show the incident's time line. gray runs through a housing complex. two minutes later, cameras capture a police van driving towards gray, lighting flashing,
a squad car follows. just before 8:42 a.m. gray is on the concrete under arrest. two bicycle cops hover over him. within seconds, residents casually begin to gatt.her at the scene. by 8:44 a.m., the police van returns to frame. its back-doors open, gray appears to be loaded into the back. at 8:46 a.m. the van drives off. a police union attorney told cnn what may have followed is a so-called rough ride a deliberate tactic used by police to harm unbelted handcuffed passenger passengers. gray was not buckled in, though the police commissioner says he should have been. on its way to the police station, the van makes three stops. at 9:11 a.m. nearly 30 minutes after gray's arrest the police van is seen making one of those stops. its back-doors open as police pick up another prisoner. 15 minutes later, police call an ambulance for gray when they
arrive at a precinct. nearly a week since his death, police have still not released a time line or information about their last interaction with gray. we know more details about the three stops at that police van made. during the first stop gray was placed in leg irons. during the second stop they stopped to deal with gray, though we don't know what that means. that part is also under investigation. during the third stop, according to the police commissioner gray was seen on the floor of the van requesting a medic. they say their investigation is ongoing. nick valencia cnn atlanta. >> the question remains what happened inside that police van and how did gray actually sustain these fatal injuries. joining me now is retired nypd detective harold thomas. great to have you on. you listened to nick's story there. i'm curious to know just how you think the baltimore police department has been handling
there. >> thanks for having me. i don't think they have been handling this correctly at all. first, i want to say that this incident and other incidents that -- other recent incidents in policing has been exposing some of the bad policing that's been going on for years. because of social media, now people can see things that have happened almost in realtime. police don't have time now to come up with a story to cover their behinds. before they would have days weeks, sometimes months before the public found out about such incidents and they would have a good story to explain what happened. now they are being talked to immediately. they can't come up with a story. i think the more you don't -- you're not transparent, the more guilty the officers are looking.
u don't think they handled this correctly. i believe he was given a rough ride. i know what that means. when you have a prisoner and he's in a van and you can slam on the brakes and he will slide to the front or step on the gas they will slide to the back. their body will hit the van very hard. >> how had do these rough rides work? we have heard that there have been several court cases where the suspects were they were paralyzed in these rough rides. how does that take place? is a police officer giving the orders to the driver to drive in such a way to injury the suspect? >> i mean, the suspect could be acting out. you might be angry because you just had to chase this guy and fight with this guy. one of your comrades might have been hurt. i'm not a hypocrite. i have driven a prisoner van
before. i know what it's like. if a person doesn't want to shut up, you step on the gas. you make sure you hit every bump in the road. like i said, if the person is in the front of the van, you step on the gas, they are going to slide all the way to the back and hit the doors very hard. if they are in the back already, you go fast and slam on the brakes they are going to slide to the front, just like a piece -- a box, cargo in a ups van or whatever. and i just think that the police today, they have to get with policing in today's society. the jig is up. stuff that guys got away with 20 30 years ago, you can't do that nowadays. almost immediately if you're caught doing something wrong it's on the internet. when i used to do orientation, i would tell them you have to assume everything you do is on
camera. if you do your job correctly and a video comes out, that video is going to exonerate you. >> we live in a social immediatemedia age and news spreads quickly. a lot of the protesters calling for more transparency and some arrest arrests to happen. harold thomas retired detective, great getting your perspective. thank you for the conversation. >> thank you for having me. ahead bruce jenner has lived in the spotlight for years, but decades after winning his olympic gold medal, he's made a bold stunning statement saying "i am a woman."
interview with abc's diane sawyer. >> here i am stuck, and i hate the word girl stuck in a guy's body. i hate that terminology. >> why? >> i'm me. i'm me, i'm a person and this is who i am. i'm not stuck in anybody's body. it's just who i am as a human being. my brain is much more female than it is male. it's hard for people to understand that but that's what my soul is. i look at it this way. bruce, always telling a lie. he's lived a lie his whole life about who he is. and i can't do that any longer. >> well, after the interview, glad released a statement saying "today, millions of people learned that someone they know is transgender.
by sharing this story, bruce jenner has shined a light on what it means to be transgender and live authentically in the face of public scrutiny. though jenner's journey is one that is deeply personal it is also one that will impact and ip spire countless people around the world. joining me now is a psychotherapist. thank you for your time. i want to first get your reaction to this interview. what stood out to you? >> i think that the network did such a beautiful job of really telling his story from beginning to end and educating the population that was watching. i just think they really captured what it's like to be fitting with someone who is going through such a huge transition in their life. >> i want to bring up something that was brought up to me. she told me that the interview
was quite confusing, especially when jenner said i am not gay. can you help us understand that? some people are confused by that statement and what this means for his sexual orientation. >> since the interview last night, that's the question i have been asked the most by everybody around me. how does he not see himself as gay? i think that what i learned in the interview from his story is that he's at the beginning, in some ways of transitions publicly and privately even though he's felt this way his whole life. so as much as that question was pressed, he by the end of the interview backed away and said it's the public's need to combine it for themselves but for himself, he's not quite sure what it means once he does transition. >> there has been some criticism, but also been a lot of words of support for bruce jenner. by him going public in this way,
what do you hope will come out of this? will there be more acceptance and awareness about the transgender community? >> absolutely i think the point of the story is that we go so intimate with his life and that kind of intimacy when you learn someone else's story you have compassion for what they go through. you have compassion perhaps for an ideology or a lifestyle that maybe you weren't compassionate about before because you didn't understand the human side of the story. i think they did a beautiful job of sharing that part of his soul as he says for people to have more awareness, education and compassion towards the issue for transgender people. >> it does take a lot of courage to make such an announcement. really appreciate your perspective, thank you for the conversation. >> thank you. washington's so-called nerd prom is tonight. meet the woman who has the toughest job of the night.
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this is the scene in baltimore at this hour as protesters vowing to shut down the city in the wake of freddie gray's in-custody death. protesters are marching through the city and calling for the arrests of any officers who played a role in freddie gray's death. and miguel marquez told us that the protests have been largely peaceful. even in death, freddie gray is a statistic. an article in "the new york
times" points out that more than 1 of every 6 black men who today should be between 25 and 54 years old have disappeared from daily life either behind bars or died too soon. according to the analysis of the 2010 census the so-called missing men total 1.5 million nationwide. the disparity is once again being debated after the recent deaths of black men like freddie gray. joining me is ben ferguson. let's first begin with you. these numbers are astounding. 1.5 million missing black men. who is to blame for this? >> i mean who is to blame is a good question but we might even broaden that question and say what is to blame. it's as much about choice and responsibility as it is the broader structural problems. people are caged in prison
facilities all around this country and world and that happens because of poverty, lack of joblessness, lack of access to early literacy. all of these things have been shown statistically to lead to mass incarceration. the problem is we know what works and still don't have the political will to fix it. then large amounts of death, not just at the hands of law enforcement but also at the hands of gang violence, that is a considerable problem we can't e resolve at the level of saying do better act better but having structural repair here. >> there's absolutely no simple answer to this. ben, i want to get your e reaction to this. 1.5 million black men misting because of early death or incarceration. thoughts? >> one of the biggest issues is we have to realize that 74% of all african-american children now are being born into single parent households. the breakdown of the family is one of the biggest causes for this and one of the biggest
tragedies that i think we have to deal with. we also know that among young african-american men the number one reason for death is homicide so there's far too much gang violence and poverty that has to be dealt with. but there's no silver bullet for this. if there's anything, it's got to be that we have to focus on helping these families come together and to have a structure where we have young african-american men that are actually being raised by father who is are in the home and a part of their lives. we know it's so easy r for these young men is because there's no one there that's keeping them on the straight and narrow. i think that's a major part of that issue that has to be talked about. >> i saw you shaking your head. >> i think that -- i agree, fathers not in the home is something we should talk about, but we have to appeal to data and statistics and understand that the relationship between
cause and effect part of the reason they are not in the household is because they are being overcharged and put in prisons. people keep saying people go to prison because they have no fathers. the data shows that. the war on drugs, these movements that were designed to clean up america have helped destroy the very thing we say we're trying to repair. also we have to challenge this notion that black fathers aren't taking care of their children. black noncustodial parents have the most involvement with the children of any race in the country. so black fathers who aren't in the household are more involved. also that you can -- >> no one is saying you can marry your way in. >> let me get. ben have the last word. >> 74% of all children bosh in this country are in a single parent household. that's an epidemic that has to
be corrected because we already know the challenges and the majority of those children are being raised by people in poverty, unfortunately, that are struggling and trying to make it. statistically in the census that's absolutely correct, mark. 74% and then you go -- >> you control for class, it's poverty. middle class people without fathers are just fine. it's not about fathers not being there. >> obviously, there's disagreement over the cause and effect relationship when it comes to family. stay with me. there's one thing that everyone is talking about online and that is bruce jenner and his dramatic announcement. what do you make of it? we'll discuss that, next.
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it's the interview that everyone is talking about. nearly 17 million people tuned in last night to watch former olympian bruce jenner confirm to diane sawyer that he's transitioning to a woman. >> are you a woman? >> i'm me. i'm me. i'm a person. this is who i am. i'm not stuck in anybody's body. it's just who i am as a human being. my brain is much more female than it is male. it's hard for people to understand that but that's what my soul is.
>> a recent study estimates that roughly 700,000 americans are transgender, but jenner is without question the most public and high profile figure so far to come out as transgender. let's bring back our commentators. ben, let's start with you. regarding the interview, you tweeted, two hours of bruce jenner seriously, lol. let me ask did you watch the interview? >> i did watch it. i just couldn't believe that it was two hours. couldn't with have done this in 30 to 45 minutes? it seems like let's milk this for all its worth which seemed sad. it should have been more about is this your decision what are you choosing to do. it was like it was trooiing to draw it out, which is a complete opposite of what he wants. he wants it to be something that people aren't looking at in a weird way or aren't talking about in a weird way. he said last night he wants people to just treat it normal.
when you do two hours on this, it's like a reality tv show an extension of what he's already known for and i didn't understand why it went so long. >> mark don't you think this is something bruce jenner wanted? especially if he granted the interview to diane sawyer. >> yeah i'm pretty sure bruce jenner wanted this. the nation needs to come to terms that had has transgender bodies. we have pretended that transgender people don't exist. bruce jenner is now the most famous trans person in the country and she has an opportunity to be an extraordinary figure. i hate that she has to do this in public with such scrutiny but at the same time it may open the door for many americans to be equally courageous and deal with this with purpose. we see suicide rates very high. maybe they will watch this interview and say, you know what i might be okay.
>>. do you think this is a water shed moment for the transgender community? ben, what do you think about this creating awareness and possibly acceptance for the transgender community? >> i think you saw when you saw glad come out with their statement. the bigger the name the more that they can normalize this the better it's going to be for their cause. so from their perspective, i'm sure this was a big night for them because it is going to be a center of a conversation that a lot of people are going to be talking about. the more people that you have that are famous and come out and talk about this the more normal it will become to others. so i have no doubt that this was a big victory for them and their movement last night. >> mark? >> i agree, but i don't see it as their movement or their cause. it's all our cause. transgender people are in fact people. the more e we see a spotlight on their humanity and story and journey shs the more all of us
can begin to normalize this. i want all of us to normalize this. they have always been here. they are not going anywhere. we need to embrace them to be as fully human as we can be. >> don't go anywhere. put on the boxing gloves for the next segment. hillary clinton has the democratic field all to herself but her campaign is off to a rocky start with more than one controversy. republicans are not holding back. should we expect mud slinging for 18 long months? but first, the nba playoffs test every player but especially one who overcame huge odds to make it on the court. here's this week's human factor. >> seeing jeff green in action it's clear he's a player with heart. but in 2011 his game was interrupted. >> i was in e complete shock. >> a routine physical showed an
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coming up tonight, the biggest party night in washington. the red carpet inside the beltway at the white house correspondents' dinner. all the glamour and jokes start at 7:00 with poppy harlow. watch it here on cnn. let's talk more politics now. ben ferguson and mark hill are back with me. so hillary clinton is already soaking up the spotlight among democratic presidential hopefuls but she's facing questions about money donated to the clinton family foundation by foreign governments at the same time she served as u.s. secretary of state. now clinton has not addressed claims in a new book that the donations were designed to influence u.s. policy but her
spokesman called the reports utterly baseless. this is obviously on top of this private e-mail controversy that hillary had to g through as secretary of state. mark let's start with you. do you think the allegations are going to haunt hillary? >> i think everything hillary clinton does will haunt her. the bur ree toe bowl will also haunt her next year. people are look for excuses to bug out on the clintons. it's unfortunate. there are plenty of reasons not to like the clintons. i wish they would use the legitimate ones instead of drudging up benghazi. she made bad choices. she should be critiqued for that. those are reasonable questions. but the clintons are careful. i don't think that they did anything wrong. not because i believe in their character, but they want to be president so bad they wouldn't do anything so silly. >> do you think hillary clinton is going to survive this?
>> i think the clintons are very careful, as mark just said, careful to cover their tracks careful to make sure e-mails come to their home careful to make share they swipe the hard drive to no one will see the e-mails and make sure they have tens of millions of dollars coming into the clinton foundation from foreign governments while she was at the state department and had influence. her campaign just this week they absolutely misled every voter in this country by claim ing she had nothing to do with the principles in russia that had given money to the foundation. we know now for a fact she did have contact with those people. not only did she have contact, but they came to her house. this isn't some drawn up random scandal or trying to connect dots that aren't there. when you're lying about meetings in your own home this is a big deal. the voters are going to have to look at her and go, do we really trust them and how is this much
money coming in from this many countries that are actually standing for things that are completely against what she claims she stands for. look at how many government. s gave money to hillary clinton's foundation that have no rights for women at all and she claims she's the candidate for women's rights. i think women will have a problem with that too. >> don't all candidates and politicians take money whether it be from foreign governments or domestic people? >> not like this. >> mark take it away. >> republicans take money from everybody. and it's amazing. nothing is more than concern for women's rights and bodies and freedoms except for when it comes to domestic policy here in the united states. it's amazing. there are plenty of reasons to critique the clintons. hillary clinton is not perfect. examine her, scrutinize her, do the same thing on the right. but let's not take a moral high ground on the right.
what they may end up doing is punch themselves out before they even get to a pry mire much less a general election. that's often what happens. they spend all their time beating up on the clintons and may not be able to articulate their own policy. the american public didn't care about e e-mails as much as the republicans did. >> ben, you have the last word. >> i think a lot of people care when you are in a position of power as secretary of state and you have tens of millions of dollars coming in from governments that are getting deals that they need with the united states government that you're involved in. that matters to taxpayers. it also matters that she was in that position and we don't know what the e-mails say about these conversations. it's called being transparent. and the people want to know that the person in the white house is going to be transparent. she has not been. it's going to be a big issue for her. >> i think a lot of people are
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the cnn newsroom joining you from new york, it's 5:00 on the east coast. . thousands of protest rers descending on baltimore's city hall demanding the immediate arrests of any officers involved in freddie gray's final cord injury. we'll have more in just a moment. also ahead, bruce jenner in his own words, the father olympic champion and reality tv star opens up about a part of his life that he's kept away from the cameras until now. the capital of nepal from one minute to the next earlier today the city of 1 million
people turned upside down. a massive earthquake with a magnitude of 7.8 suddenly struck at midday. buldings homes and temples crashed down and the death toll still early on here in the rescue operation. the death toll is more than 1400. joining me on the phone is a surgeon from tulane university who just arrived in nepal today. he was going there on a humanitarian mission. can you hear me, doctor? >> yes, i'm here. >> thank you for being with us. describe the scene on the ground. where you are right now. >> so right now it's nighttime and people are resting easily here on the open ground. the hotel where we were staying is actually open for people to stay inside in their rooms while most people have found it
advisable to stay in an open area underneath the night sky. >> that is because there have been so many aftershocks and people are afraid that another big quake could hit. i know that you have been helping some people on the ground there including a man who had a large gash. someone who is lucky enough to survive this earthquake. who have you been treating and what kind of injuries do they have? >> that's correct. we actually ended up with a gentleman with a large gash in his side. it's very close to communicating with his lungs. we went ahead and fixed him up. he went to the emergency department went to the hospital and got sutures and has returned to the hospital in good condition. additionally there have been people with broken bones, which have been stabilized as well as people basically that have
received water and been stabilized here. >> we're seeing images, as you and i are talking, of one of the hospitals there where doctors are trying to treat the survivors. what are the conditions like where you're treating people out of? >> conditions here are pretty intense. there's a lot of people there's a lot of uncertainty and really we're kind of taking everybody who needs help and trying to get them that help. as said it's kind of the middle of the night right now. things have calmed down a little bit, but we're expecting a very busy day tomorrow here in a couple hours when some light comes up. >> we have heard that the united states government is sending $1 million in aid. also people humans to go and to help as well. what is it that you can tell in
the early stages here the people there need the most? >> well right now the people here need some organization. they need to understand that the worst is behind them and i think the biggest thing we need right now is some clearance of all the rubble and the disaster that has happened. and getting back to the rebuilding process because we all know that that's what happens next. >> doctor thank you very much for joining us. good luck on the ground there. they are lucky to have you on the ground helping out. i appreciate it very much. stay safe. a former navy seal is joining us with training in large scale crisis management. when you look at a situation like this just 12 hours in since this happened. what is the most important thing right now? >> i think the most important thing is now that they are 12 hours into it they need to
pause, if they haven't done that already, and coordinate this rescue. they will simply go in and research and search and research an area and if they are not doing it in a coordinated fashion, eventually people will start to die because they are missing them. and also the people that are actually responding to this can get very tired very quick and then you deplete your resources. >> this is the largest quake in had this e region in 81 years. you have a death toll over 1450 already. that's going to rise. you have said that sometimes you actually have to step back more and wait. the initial surge to help immediately but step back and wait. >> you want to rush in there. that's where people get hurt. especially if there's another quake that happens. what we find when we go rescue operations is that first of all preplanning is the biggest thing. i was just reading up on this. they have a magnitude 5.0 earthquake every year in nepal
pretty much. and. they have had several big ones before so i don't know what their response is if it's coordinated already, but typically if you have -- especially when bigger countries come in if you have good coordination between the u.s. aid and groups coming in, you'll see a little better of a recovery. you can just tell that this is a lot of chaos in there right now. >> when you're dealing with an area, this is not as remote as it could be. this is 50 miles outside of kat man duh. you have people who have died at the base camp of mount everest. what's the biggest challenge when you're dealing with the e remote areas? this earthquake was felt by some as many as 200 miles from the epicenter. >> pi think they are looking at a couple things here. the altitude in some of these places is too great for helicopters to even work in effectively. the other thing is just the structure of these buildings, as
you see it's just pure rubble. that is very difficult when you're actually moving stuff are the other buildings secure to where they are not going to fall over as well. in this type of operation, there has to be coordinate and there has to be a pace set where you're going in and searching these things otherwise you get overwhelmed. >> thank you, i appreciate it. if you want to help go to cnn.com/impact. you can find out ways you can help the people of nepal. also this just into us here. the fbi is investigating an isis-inspired terror plot here in the united states. we'll have details, next. ♪ ♪ when you're living with diabetes steady is exciting. only glucerna has carbsteady
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with the details. you have been working your sources and this is obviously significant because they are telling you about it and it has to do with some areas in california i understand. >> they are tell knot telling a lot about what the threat is but they know it's an isis-inspired or related threat. they are taking it seriously and trying to make sure they avert law enforcement agencies around the country because of the possible threat. now at this point they believe it is something that arose from chalt chatter and other intelligence information were able to get. but they are not being very specific about it and they are still trying to figure out about it. they are trying to figure it out. >> and one of your sources said
this focuses on parts of california where officials have stepped up security. are we talking about big cities here? are we talking about northern or southern california or do we just not have those details? >> we're try not saying at this point. we know they have increased some security. but at this point, officials have asked us not to e reveal too much about it. they do believe it's serious enough that they have asked local police agencies to make sure that they are aware of it and increase their vigilance. >> also i know that some of the officials told you and made a point of telling you that this potential threat and they don't know if it is a real threat ors a operational threat it's not necessarily aviation related. >> that's right. one of the first things we think about is whether or not there's a threat to perhaps aviation.
as you know tsa has increased security in recent months particularly within domestic flights just to make sure nothing could get by. we know that terrorist groups have been looking for ways to hide explosives in ways that are hard to detect. so that's one of the things that is at work here. but they are being very conscious in providing details because i think there's so much to the investigation at a very sensitive stage. >> thank you for the reporting. as you learn more keep us posted. we'll bring it to the viewers. thank you for that. let me bring back in a former navy seal and fbi official here with me in new york. one thing that evan has been reporting is u.s. officials telling him that right now when you look at isis operating trying to recruit people here in the united states, there are more open cases than closed
cases. they are having a very hard time getting a handling on this. what do you make of this this latest threat. >> this is where the joint terrorism task force really shines. we have been able to develop task forces all over the country in major cities. you have a standing joint terrorism task force that has representatives from all the federal agencies and the the local and state agencies. wherever this is going to be located, they are probably standing up a joint operations command and you're going to have representatives from all the law enforcement entities there. what that does is it allows them to coordinate things so much faster than they were ever able to. >> you think they come out publically without a lot of details just to make the public more vigilant? >> i have said this a thousand times and on this show before. eyeballs are the greatest tools we have in securing this country. for them just to come out and release this it just tells everybody that hey, look around and see if you see anything
that's out of the norm. unfortunately, we're under a constant threat but knowing threats heighten it up and amp it up quite a bit more. they know specifics but right now they are probably just telling the public to be aware. >> thank you very much. as we learn more about this, we'll bring it to you right here on cnn. coming up next, the police union calling out the city's police chief. details of what he said and why there's this divide within the police department there. also hear what the protesters are demanding today on the streets of baltimore.
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thousands of protesters have gathered in baltimore. they are marching through the city and calling for the immediate arrest of any officer who played a role in the death of freddie gray. joining me is polo sand volume. i want to begin with marco. you marched with these protesters. what's the sense you're getting from them on the ground? what's it like today? >> reporter: it was loud and angry, but peaceful. there were thousands on the streets. this is city u hall here where probably 5,000 people have gathered. the police department is just behind here. you can see just beyond this traffic here the number of
police officers there blocking off the road. police going into complete defensive mode over the last couple of days. certainly today. they went completely behind barriers and kept individuals from get. ing to the police station or any sort of facilities they were concerned about. the only problems were at orioles park where there were police guards out. when they saw them along the barricades they changed direction, went there, yelled at them for awhile. it was the first time they saw police and then they moved on. it was the only point. they have been very keenly aware that the world is watch inging. >> what about the fact that yesterday the police commissioner and said for the first time they didn't handle this properly. there were mistakes made saying there's no excuse period for the fact that freddie gray was not buckled up in the back of
that carrier van. arguably that he should have gotten medical care immediately and he didn't. how are people reacting to that admission? >> i think they are satisfied to hear the police going part of the way. they want to see charges against those officers though. . there's great unhappiness with the way the police have treated citizens over the years. this police commissioner is ushd great pressure. the mayor is under great pressure. they are moving further toward the concern of the people in this town trying to have it both ways. keep their officers happy, not make waves within the police ranks but not set off the people of baltimore, especially in these very tough neighborhoods. >> thank you for the reporting on this. you'll stay on top of this.
we heard something very different today coming out of basically the head of the police union saying this about what the chief said these comments appear to be politically driven and in direct contrast to the commissioner's own request not to jump to any conclusions until the entire investigation is complete. are you seeing a divide now within the police department there? >> we have seen that divide but mainly between the union and the police department from the statement that you just read there. there seems to be this consensus from the president of the union they wanted this investigation to run its course which is heard what we heard from the commissioner early on. it was a message not only to the police union but thousands of protesters have gathered at the foot of baltimore city hall which is to have patience as the investigation runs its course. they have not determined what happened in that police van
nearly two weeks ago today. however, we have to look back 24 hours ago when the police commissioner and some of the top brass made that statement which was their first admission saying the procedure was not followed the day of the arrest. not that they not strap him into his seat after placed in custody, but also that he did not get that timely medical care that he was asked for. of course, that statement has clearly fuelled concerns here. i can tell you this crowd continues to grow in what is now the largest demonstration since those events happened two weeks. ago. >> the largest demonstration you have seen. i don't know if either of your photo journalists are able to pull out at all so our viewers can see how many people are there. i know it's hard to make an estimate but do you have any sense of how many people have gatthered gathered?
>> look at the crowd here. >> miguel go ahead. >> i'd say 4,000 to 5,000. if you look at the backside of the protests here on the far end of the park from city hall and the number of people who were marching, it was a long march. they did probably five or six miles snaking through the city and have ended up here. it is a very sizable crowd. the biggest we have seen so far. >> good to see it's been very peaceful throughout these two week weeks. thank you very much. we appreciate it. we'll take a quick break. coming up on the other side we'll talk about bruce jenner who has lived in the spotlight for years. but decades of winning that olympic gold medal, he's made a stunning statement saying quote, i am a woman. the details on that, next. but first this. get. ready for brand new season of anthony bourdain. first stop south korea.
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we're different, but we still identify as female. and that's very hard for bruce jenner to say. why? i don't want to disappoint people. >> next bruce jenner is going to be the subject of a reality tv series for the e network. it's going to be eight episodes about his life. a look back at jenner's fascinating life in this spotlight. >> strength speed and stamina powering bruce jenner in the olympics. as he told cnn's larry king ready to launch into stardom. >> i knew once the games were over with i'll pick the pieces up and go on with life. >> a life as a pitch man from wholesome wheaties to orange
juice. aerobics videos followed. then the most athlete became. the actor. >> you can't stop the music. >> not exactlyshake peern roles. the o'limp yan who dazzled on the field bombed on the screen. in his personal life jenner's multimarriages led to six biological children and four stepchildren. his third marriage to chriskris kardashian into a household name. >> we just kind of looked at our family and ours was so much more interesting. >> "keeping up with the kardashians."
>> are you ready? i'm going to feed it to you. >> thank you for that. joining me to talk about all of this is media correspondent brian stelter. also espn senior writer thank you for being here. let me begin with you. you wrote this incredibly moving piece say inging why we need to thereon bruce jenner's story. you spoke really personally. you spoke when you were on a bus 15 years ago and a pair of transgender women boarded the bus and you mocked them. >> yes, i did. one of the things that i try to hold true to myself when i write columns is to be as brutally honest with people as i possibly can and not to hold back. especially when i talk about myself. i thought it was important as me as an openly gay man, people
know as an lgbt advocate talk about my own struggles when it comes to transgender individuals. only by putting myself out there and someone considers himself progressive has a lot of growth and learning to do was an important part of the conversation as we were getting ready to listen to bruce talk about his journey. >> let's remember some of these statistics. you point one out in your article. a recent williams institute study found 50% of respondents who are openly transgender have attempted suicide. this is not something to make light of even if you don't understand it. a lot has been said about the kardashian family the fact that they are in the spotlight. bruce jenner has been in the spotlight. he's going to allow e to film him for this series and some look at this and say, you know is this coming out and making this public at all part of a publicity stunt? he was asked that. let's listen to his answer.
>> oh no we would never do that, diane. are you telling me i'm going to go through a complete gender change and go through everything you need to do that for the show? sorry, diane, it ain't happening. >> very genuine response. >> i thought she was wise to ask the question because it is on people's minds. there will be this reality series. obviously, this is a family very wise about their publicity. they were even on twitter after the special last night congratulating their father. talking about how proud they were. we're going to hear from kim kardashian on monday morning on "today." there's a rollout plan here. bruce jenner also being smart and calculated about how and when he made this announcement. . for now he still wants to be called he. this is a story that journalists have to figure out and have to
learn. i have had to learn how to talk about the story u and what language to use. people still calling bruce a he. a few months from now, maybe that will change. >> don't you think this could absolutely be an opportunity to educate the 17 million people that watched last night? >> i think it's already starting. it's starting right now today. abc started this conversation. glad has a great statistic. only 8% of americans say they know what transgender individual. now we all nodo. >> that's very true. l.s., do you think this is a water shed moment to educate everyone also for the world of sports, a former olympic gold medalist and the fight of now, just like gay rights was the fight 20 years ago and continues to be today, but is this sort of the new frontier for that? >> i appreciate what bruce has
done. i found myself crying several times during the interview with diane sawyer. it's important to remember that this like every other civil rights movement in this country, is just one part of many pieces. one step of many steps that have been taken. renee richards was a former player became a transgender woman and so that. person may have been the one that began the conversation in terms of everyone recognizing the name in sports and watching that person transition into a different gender. so bruce. like many before him, it's just one step of many steps that still needs to be taken in terms of full transgender rights. >> you write at the end your last line is we think jokes are harmless because we're only paying attention to the people who are laughing. if you could have one wish coming out of this when the news headlines aren't about this anymore, what is your wish? >> my wish is that we all
understand that we're different. and to allow each other space to recognize their own differences and then have the patience with others to allow the time to process those differences with each other. what i mean by that is bruce jenner came out at 65 years old. technically about 65 years to fully embrace his full self. we need to be patient with each other as we try to process this and not expect instant understanding of every aspect of what this conversation means. >> i have loved seeing on facebook people saying i don't want to hear about this. then seeing people reply and try to change minds. i think there's some persuading and influencing going on even as we speak. people becoming more open and overall i have been struck by how much positivity and love there is online. i'm not sure i expected so much support as there's been today. >> thank you both very much we
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the investigation followed his february apology for claiming that a helicopter he was in during the iraq war was hit by rocket fire. nbc suspended him for six months. you called all your sources and. got this information. this is your reporting. they haven't made a decision yet on whether brian williams is going to come back to the anchor chair. what do we know about these possible other sbj rations. >> this is a personal drama the country is paying attention to. all of us can imagine being in a situation where you're suspended and don't know if you can go back to work or not. this is playing out on national television. it's been almost three months and it's died down for awhile. but it's now very much. back with a vengeance. partly because there's a new boss at nbc news and this investigation that's going on seems to be getting to point where they are reaching conclusion.
one of the new revelations according to "the new york times" is that brian williams reporting from ta here square doesn't line up. what he said at the time on nbc and the story he told to jon stewart, that version of the story seemed to be more dramatic. maybe it was exaggerated. that's one example of the list of ten discrepancies we know about. the investigation still isn't over. every day this investigation keeps going, it's a bad day for brian williams. >> you analyze the media every day. i wond whaer you think the big picture is of things like this leaking out. a little bit, a little bit, and what it means for brian williams when credibility is everything. >> it seems to a lot of people in the industry the people asking what's going on they are assuming this is lay inging the groundwork for brian williams to leave nbc. they might all be wrong, but the leaks seem to contribute to a drum beat that says how can he possibly return. that might be unfair to brian
williams. . we haven't gotten to hear his side of the story. he hasn't been allowed to defend himself. >> will he be allowed? no matter what's decided, will there be a point in time we'll hear from brian williams perhaps even on the nightly news? >> i do think at some point we'll hear from him. david letterman wants him to be on his final late shows. i don't think nbc is going to allow that. the drum beat is getting loud erer. they are nearing a decision about whether to bring him back or not. that's why these leaks are so significant. the head of nbc universal was in a meeting on thursday at 30 rockefeller center hearing about these findings contribute to a sense they are nearing a decision. it's an uncredibly tough decision. if you bring him back, there's credibility concerns for him and the network. if you don't, a lot of brian williams fans are going to be very sdisdisappointed and upset.
i wonder if we'll hear jokes about this to be the at the white house correspondents' dinner. this is the big media story that folks in the room are talking about about. i wonder if it will be addressed. it's the elephant in the room. thank you very much. i appreciate it. washington's nerd prom is tonight. reporters and elected leaders mix and mingle with hollywood's e elite. ahead, i sat down with the woman in charge of the night's host cecily strong who has a very tough gig ahead of her making fun of everyone in the room. but. first, this is a whole new year of cnn heroes. we need your help finding some of them. anderson cooper has more on how to normalminate your pick for cnn hero of the year. >> cnn heros is looking for everyday people who are changing the world. how do we foind them? with your help. you can nominate someone right now at cnnheroes.com.
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our nation's capital as the white house correspondents' dinner, cecily strong set to host. she will just be the fourth female comedienne to headline this event in the dinner's 82-year history. i asked her how she's preparing. >> i don't think i've ever been known as the real envelope pusher jokeswise. i would hope not to hurt -- i don't want to be mean. i'd rather be funny and of course i'll have like a couple pointed remarks. but hopefully it's all funny. i would hope it's funny. it's funny to me. >> she says she's stepping down because she has so much to accomplish. >> given the state of washington, what's fair game? >> i mean i think there's a lot going on. that's a little bit silly. >> name one. >> oh, gosh. well i think, you know -- right
now we've got the presidential election coming up. that's an easy -- there's a lot of people that are really fun targets. >> over the last five years you people were so good. over tax cuts. wmd intelligence. the effect of global warming. we americans didn't want to know and you had the courtesy not to try to find out. >> even colbert back in 2006 right really pushed the envelope. >> yes. >> some people loved, it some hated it. >> i loved it. >> you loved it. >> i will not do that, though because it's different circumstances. i think he's incredible and i don't -- i think everything's just different. but i was a big fan and thought that was incredible. >> you've said some people encouraged you not to do this. why? >> i think, no offense, it's sort of known as a tough room whxt it was made public a lot of people very nice were like congratulations. i think i would just go uh-huh.
>> like it or hate it the white house correspondents' dinner has come to be known as the, quote nerd prom. the night that washington meets hollywood. joining me from the big dance in washington is ken walsh. he's not only chief white house correspondent for "u.s. news & world report" but the author of "celebrity in chief," a history of the presidents and the culture of stardom. thank you sir, you look dapper in your tuxedo. everyone is glammed up. this is your 29th white house correspondents correspondents' dinner. is this indeed the nerd prom? trnchts >> reporter: it's actual little become a celebration of celebrity now. i started going to this dinner in the mid-'80s errand ran the dinner one year when i was president of the white house correspondents' association. boy, has it changed since then it's really become a spectacle in some ways but an example of our celebrity driven culture and president obama is the perfect
sample example of how presidents can intersect with this. he understands popular culture, he participates in it and we'll see him participate in this top of the line dinner font celebrating celebrity. >> what do you expect will be the focus of the president's jokes tonight? what or who will take it the hardest? >> reporter: well, president obama has shown a willingness over the years to zing not only members of his own party and the opposition party the republicans but zing the media. i think you'll see a lot of that. i think you'll see a lot of his making fun of the media in many ways and the republicans, particularly the republican presidential candidates, the 19 or so candidates who want to succeed him. so i would imagine he would do a lot of that. but he has a very good touch on it. he knows how to come right to the edge of maybe going too far and not being offensive but still making the point. so you'll see the audience i think reacting very favorably to this. that's what this audience likes.
they like edgy humor, and they like humor that comes right to the edge of perhaps not being appropriate but not going over the edge. president obama understands that very well and knows how to do that. >> i think we see madeleine albright over your shoulder the first female second of state in. >> reporter: yes. >> there are still some politicians going. this is not all hollywood yet. >> reporter: sure. the politicians are here. like you said former secretary of state madeleine albright, members of congress member fz the cabinet, advisers to president obama. what really draws the attention, as you see here on the red carpet, myself accepted really because i'm not really a celebrity, is the hollywood folks, the actors, actresses. that troubles some of the journalists who are here because they feel it used to be a journalists' dinner and now it's not so much anymore as you can see. >> very quickly before i let you go let's remind people when this was started. it was started for the sole
purpose of holding on to access for journalists to access to the white house and the president. >> it was back to the 1920s. it was started because the white house correspondents felt in that time that they needed one occasion where they could get to know their sources better. that was the tradition for years until about 20 years where it became more of an occasion to be seen and see. when hol holylywood decided to participate. now it's become a celebrity dinner. >> ken waumishlsh, have a lot of fun. just a reminder for all of our viewers, our live coverage of the white house correspondents' dinner, special coverablege on cnn starts at 7:00 px. we'll have the glitz, glamour, jokes and politics from the red carpet before that, summer
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