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south carolina police officer charged with murder after repeatedly shooting an unarmed black man in the back. killing him. new video is the key, the distinguisher, making this case different than so many others the incidents shows from the video, officer likele slager shoot ing shooting the victim. the officer said he feared for his life as he fired eight shots at scott. scott's death reinnighting the debate between excessive force and trust between the police and the black community. our coverage begins with martin savidge in south carolina with more. >> we're standing outside the home of the parents of walter scott. they've been speaking out saying that they are grateful that the truth is known. grateful for that video. >> >>. [ gunshots ] >> this disturbing video has
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south carolina officer michael slager behind bars this morning, charged with murder. the three-minute video capturing the shooting death of walter scott over the weekend. >> when you're wrong, you're wrong. >> taped by a bystander, it reveals the 33-year-old officer shooting scott in the back. while he ran away. in the immediate aftermath of the shooting police said officer slager stopped scott for a broken taillight in north charleston. through an attorney officer slager described a scuffle, claiming the 50-year-old fought for his taser, and he felt threatened. in this video you see what could be a taser fall as scott takes off, running away as slager fires eight times. >> shots fired. subject is down. he's got my taser. >> while he's lying face-down,
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the officer handcuffs scott. next slager jogs back to where he fired his gun and picks up something. perhaps the taser, but from this video it's not entirely clear. back by scott's body, he drops the small black object. then moments later, he picks it back up. the coast guard veteran and father of four dies on scene. scott's family attorney contends without the video there would be no murder charge. >> the officer said that mr. scott attacked him and fought his taser and tried to use it on him. but somebody was watching. >> when asked if race played a role north charleston's police chief said he isn't ruling it out. >> i think all the police officers on this force, member and women are like my children. so you tell me how a father would react to seeing his child do something. >> just about everyone agrees if it were not for that video, it
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might literally be a whole different story. as to the person who took that video, they remain anonymous this morning. and reportedly in hiding. fearing for their own safety. >> it was amazing how close whoever took the video was, was to the action and never turned around and ran. let's dissect the cell phone video piece by piece with our experts to try to understand what lapped. we want to bring in north charleston city council woman dorothy williams and joining us is cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. tom, dot, thank you so much for being here. let's go through the video, we want to break it down piece by piece so you can tell us what you see. let's start with the moment before and the shooting. here you see the officer. he fires, he fires eight shots and he walks calmly over to mr. scott's body.
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again, you see mr. scott running away. you see the officer firing eight shots. mr. scott falls down. and the officer walks towards him. tom, i want to start with you. how do you interpret what you see here? >> well what i interpret, alisyn is that the officer did not have a reason to fear for his life. and whatever they were if they were let's say trying to grab hold of the taser when they were close to each other, and the taser fell to the ground and we don't know that that's what it was for sure. but it would seem that the officer had little reason to fear for his own safety or for the safety of someone else in the community. if you have an armed person fleeing the scene of a crime, you know you might fear for other people. it seems in this case he probably had no reason to fear that mr. scott was a danger to anybody else. >> dot, what did you think when you first saw that video? >> i was very upset.
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i want to know why was he out of the car. if you get stopped for a broken taillight. they come up to the car and ask for your i.d. and everything like that. i don't understand why he was out of the car. >> well you make an excellent point. we don't know what happened leading up to the shooting. that's pivotal. as we know from what happened with michael brown. sometimes it's the incident beforehand that sort of sets the tone for what happens next. let me show you something that happens after the shooting that's also interesting. this is where the officer walks up in a moment you'll be able to see it it will be less shaky and he handcuffs mr. scott, who is now incapacitated on the ground. so tom, instead of offering cpr, or doing anything else he handcuffs the suspect, who has now shot eight times. what do you think of that protocol? >> well i don't think it's right, either alisyn. you clearly have the person on the ground and whether he's dead yet or dying, he's
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obviously not resisting any further. he's not trying to run any more and probably can't. and at that point, you call the paramedics you call for medical assistance to come take care of the person who is on the ground. >> dot, how is the community responding to this video? >> believe it or not, the community is very calm because it happened that he got arrested and charged so quickly. and they are very content with that. now we have a few people that's trying to stir it up by having some march this morning, just to get their name out there for no reason but the neighborhood and everyone is so happy that this police officer is in jail. charged with murder. is not given a bond. and they're very content. it happened and no one tried to
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cover up this police officer. >> speaking of cover-up tom, i want to show you what happens next on the video. because this is peculiar. the officer appears to drop something near walter scott's body. so it's hard to see, obviously this is shaky cell phone video. let me play it for you again. the officer walks up to the body we've spot-shadowed this for you. something falls from the officer's hands to the ground it appears to be in the shape of a taser gun. what do you see, tom, in this moment? >> well that's what it does appear. that he's dropping something, that maybe for the intent of incriminating mr. scott. and then thinks better of that. and maybe it's because he doesn't trust the other police officer to back his story up. and so he you know he picks up what he dropped. if that's what it was. in any event, you're not supposed to tamper with the crime scene, if you've got an officer-involved shooting and the person is on the ground and they're no longer a threat you
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call for medical assistance and you don't touch anything you don't, you know you don't do anything else that's going to be in the hands of the paramedics first of all to try to save the person's life. and second of all, the medical examiner's office if the paramedics determine that the person is dead. you're not to drop things at the crime scene, pick things up at the crime scene or any of that. in this case the video accelerate everything that's why we have an arrest so quickly. i should add that the forensics would have also justified the charges against the officer later if they pick up the bullet casings and you know they're 100 feet from where the shooting occurs and every single shot into mr. scott is in his back you know that that would have been determined by the forensic examination and the autopsies later. but in the interest of quickly deciding and determining what happened the video makes all the difference. >> dot one more thing we want to show you here after the officer
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dropped something near mr. scott's body, he then we have it spot-shadowed again, picks up that same object. this is from a different angle. picks up the object of course it's impossible to know if he reconsidered having dropped something, if he didn't realize he dropped something. you know what's so curious about all this. is that the officer says that he had sort of wrestled with mr. scott over the taser gun. and so it appears, though we don't really know but just from the video, that he might have been trying to get that taser gun closer to the body to back up his story. how do you see it? >> that's how i see it also. to me he showed no concern. after he hand an cuffed him, he just walked off. all he was thinking about to me was a cover-up. because he never showed any concern about mr. scott after he was down. >> to your point -- >> i just would like to thank, i would just like to thank that
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person that stood there and continued videoing this. i don't know why this person feels they need to be in hiding. but i would like to thank that person in person. give them a big hug. i don't know who it was. but that was just wonderful. >> the last thing we want to show you is that the officers had said they attempted to do cpr on mr. scott. but we don't see any evidence of that on the video at least. the officer does go over and check his pulse. but we don't see any sort of emergency personnel actually attempting cpr. dorothy and tom, thanks so much for helping us walk through all of this. obviously we will be analyzing this throughout the program, because there's so many angles to talk about, thanks for being with us. as we stand in the shadow of another troubling police shooting ferguson missouri will hold its first election since its controversial shooting
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death of michael brown last summer. the city ballot is already making history. tripling the number of blacks on the city council ballot. let's go to cnn's ana cabrera live in ferguson with more. >> the people here have spoken chris, and the city has taken a big step forward. even if you just look at election participation, there were no african-american candidates than in years past. there were also a lot more voters who participated and cast those ballots yesterday. in fact voter turn-out for this election was more than double that of past city elections. hopeful sign in the community, that change has come. >> a fresh face for ferguson's future. ella jones is now the first african-american woman elected to the ferguson city council. >> this is home. and i'm going to do everything i can to make it a better place
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for everyone. >> jones is one of three new council members poised to transform the embattled st. louis suburb. >> if you want to see changes done in the community, you got to be involved. >> change the common mantra among voters trickling into polling stations tuesday. >> the good old boy's society is not going to work any more. we're going to get it straightened out for sure. >> the result? new leadership that better reflects the city's demographics a city that's almost 70% african-american. >> i'm going to be the hardest-working councilman period. bar none. >> now with wesley bell and jones, the city council's racial makeup flipped from five white members and one african-american to three white and three black members. >> we want people in leadership that's going to do right by the people. lack of diversity among city leaders drew criticism following the shooting of unarmed teenager michael brown last summer. a department of justice investigation recently revealed
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systemic racial discrimination by the ferguson police department and municipal court system. some residents say those root issues sparked the eruption of emotion that led to weeks of violent protests and looting. leaving painful reminders of the past and businesses that just haven't recovered. >> what are your hopes for this new city council? >> well for a change pretty much. i hope this just can bring ferguson back together. >> one thing is certain, the future of ferguson is still in question as the group of newly elected council members say economic development their priority. especially in the canfield green neighborhood where michael brown lost his life residents are counting on the group of leaders to make a difference. john? >> ana kacabrera in ferguson thank you so much. new details on sophisticated state department cyberattack we told but weeks ago. sources tell cnn that russian hackers behind that attack were able to access sensitive parts
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of the white house computer system including nonpublic details of the president's schedule. cnn's evan perez joins us with more. >> these russian hackers in recent months broke into sensitive parts of the white house email system. in real-time they could even see parts of the of president's schedule that's not disclosed to the public. the hackers got in by breaking in the state department email servers, once in there they tricked someone into giving them access to the system serving the executive office of the president. now the white house last october disclosed suspicious activity in its unclassified email system. but deputy national security adviser ben rhodes told cnn's wolf blitzer last night on the "situation room," that even a breach of unclassified email is serious. >> i think we would view any information that is government email, that is even unclassified as sensitive. and again, what we've seen in the past is that there have been
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efforts to break into that system and at times we've had that system compromised. what we do then is take immediate precautions, to better secure that system and try to stay one step ahead of hackers. >> and u.s. investigators believe the hack remembers working for the russian government. according to officials, they pulled off one of the most serious cyberbreaches against the u.s. government. the breach is one reason alisyn that u.s. intelligence fivls recently increased warnings about the cyberthreat from russia. >> just incredible to see it all play out. thanks so much for that evan. well the crisis in yemen growing and now the u.s. stepping up its efforts. the state department says the u.s. will partner in the air campaign ramping up its military and intelligence support to saudi-led forces. cnn's nic robertson is live in saudi arabia with the latest. nic? >> good morning, alisyn. this is the really the clearest statement we've had that tells us just how long the saudi-led
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air campaign could continue fighting stepped up in the key port city of aden this morning. other targets by this saudi-led coalition striking targets, houthi targets around oil field areas, the houthis are believed to be trying to take control of those key pieces of infrastructure in the country. but u.s. deputy secretary of state anthony blinken significant that he's here in the country and significant what he had to say. >> saudi arabia sending a strong message to the houthis and their allies that they cannot overrun yemen by force. in support of that effort we have expedited weapons deliveries increased our intelligence-sharing and established a joint coordination planning cell in the saudi operation center. >> now this improved intelligence-sharing is not to the point of providing a target list. however, when the saudis are put together their own target list
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the idea is that that could be reviewed using u.s. intelligence assessments to see if any of those targets are close to civilian targets, the situation yesterday where a school was next to a military base the school got hit as well. six children killed. clearly the saudis want to avoid that. the intelligence-sharing designed to do that and speed up the effort of driving the houthis back from their advances across the country. chris? >> nic, thank you. two israeli voulds been stabbed by a palestinian attack nert west bank. one soldier suffered serious injuries. other soldiers in area killed the attacker. the hope is the incident doesn't spark further hostilities. firefighters battling a huge fire at a high-rise commercial building in los angeles. the blaze broke out on the top floors of a six-story building in the westlake district. firefighters rescued two trapped inside. no one was seriously injured. cause of the fire under
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investigation. a second day of jury deliberations in the boston bombing trial. jurors spent seven hours yesterday trying to decide on dzokhar tsarnaev's fate. the jury did send out two questions to the judge. but the contents of those questions were not disclosed. tsarnaev faces 30 charges, if convicted he could get the death penalty or life in prison. a lot of people wondering what could they be deliberating about after this trial where the defense essentially admitted that he did it but counselor, just because they're talking doesn't mean that there's dissent within the jury room. >> it doesn't mean that there's dissent. there are 30 counts and they do all emerge from the same fact pattern. but not the same way. so they could be points of clarification question. and also there is the chance although they're not supposed to do this that part of their discussion is about how bad it was and how it means. you have to remember the obstacle for the jury is going to be the punishment. not this phase, because he's admitted through counsel that he did it. >> still our legal experts
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predicted it would take three hours of deliberation it would be open and shut. so it's already twice that and something is going on in there. >> i don't think that's a surprise either. in as much as asking people to kill someone is a very difficult thing for regular human beings to do and i think the process is never quick. >> that's good. meanwhile, another case of a police shooting an unarmed black man. but this time there's video. >> and we're going to talk a little bit more about what's going on in this boston bomber trial. because there's so much on the line. what is the universe of possibility about what these questions were from the deliberators and what will it take for them to give the boston bomber the death penalty? we'll take you through it so you understand it.
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welcome back. terrible news no other way to put it a white south carolina police officer charged with murder after shooting a black man, not once but as many as eight times in the back. all caught on video. and yet, so many questions come up because of this. let's try to figure out what it means. in this case and what we learn about a situation in general of police excessive force, mo ivory on your screen radio host and attorney as well as errol lewis, cnn political commentator and political anchor for new york one news. good to have you here sorry it's for this reason. the shooting do we have the
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ability to play it back so it can be seen at home so you understand why this video is so important to this case? here it is. [ gunshots ] >> all right. now this is being taken by someone apparently on a bicycle or bystander who is there and had the presence of mind to stop and shoot this on their cell phone. what we don't see, errol, is the incident that led to this. there was a traffic stop. something happened during the traffic stop and mr. scott, the victim runs away gets pursued by the officer, the officer tazes him. he says the tazing is ineffective. he says there's an altercation where mr. scott is trying to get the tazer from him, and then he fears for his life shoots at him and this happens. now points of distinction, one,
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errol lewis fighting over the taser, i fear for my life as the officer. does that make sense? >> there's a scenario in which that could have happened clearly, but i think what works so so devastatingly against the officer is that it looks like it's clear, it's not a rainy night in the dark alley. the guy is clearly running away. sewn sew that even if there is a fight, the fight at that moment seems to have been over. >> but not over his weapon a handgun, a tazer which he had discharged. >> there are some wires that you can sort of see in the background it looks lick there was some kind of a tazer involved. >> absolutely. >> does the taser work unless you reload it with a new charge once you've used it? >> i've never used a taser, chris, so i -- >> the answer is no it doesn't once you've discharged it. so could the officer have been in the fear that the man was going to use it on him and hurt him with it? >> no i know that's the standard line that all officers know to say.
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it's part of the script. it if there's a shooting or an incident the first thing they do is say i fear for my life. it's part of the protocol of a protection of an officer after there's been a shooting. i want to go back to the beginning where this man was, walter was going down the street. he was, it doesn't seem to be much conversation about the fact that they were in an advanced auto parts lot. which probably means he was going to get his taillight fixed. perhaps he was there to replace the bulb. and i wonder in my mind how that escalates to a dead man shot eight times in the back. i'm imagining as we all are trying to put this together. that's the officer pulled him and he told him, get out of the car. that's how he got out of the car. then something started to insue that had them moving away from the car. that caused the officer to feel like he needed to taze him. but then what happens after somebody is obviously struck by the taser, that makes you then
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feel okay now let me start to shut. obviously walter felt whatever there was, maybe a verbal exchange that made walter feel like he needed to get away from this police officer. that's exactly what it looks like on the video. he begins to run away and in the most casual of manner which is so disturbing this officer shoots him eight times, casually walks over looks at him, doesn't try to help walks back to start putting the case together. that is what happened. >> now the reason that we are going back to the beginning here is because the video by itself is overpowering. it takes you to the conclusion that this man was running away and got shot at a lot unnecessarily. but it's important not to get lost in the power of that one moment because you do have to do what mo and you are doing right now, which is back us up and go through the process, because what happened after this
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happened on saturday? slager is the officer, walter who mo is referring to is walter scott, the 50-year-old victim. slager through his attorney says i followed all proper police procedures. that's what's happening on his side. what do the police say, he did cpr on scott. you see no evidence of that. only later do you see anybody come with a kit to do any sort of medical treatment. then the police say the suspect ran, the officer used the taser to try to stop the man. it was not effective. obviously, because whatever did happen the man was still able to move. at that point there was a fight, the suspect tried to get control of the tazer, police say the officer pulled his gun and fired a shot to stop the fight. errol? >> that's the big moment. if we didn't have this video. >> and none of that is reflected in the video or rather the video contradicts all of that and the
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fact frankly that officer slager's lawyer quit the case you know the minute the video came out, tells you that he perhaps was given a version of the truth, that he didn't feel that he could support and defend. >> you want to hope that any ethical attorney isn't putting forward -- >> how many times have we seen this exact story come from the officer and then the police after there's a shooting and then there's no video. there's no need to go in and suspect that the police officers are lying or that the department is covering it up or that the story that came out is untrue. it's only because of the video. so how many dead people on the ground have no investigation, have no chance of the officer being charged. because there's no video to support the lying story that the police put out? >> two points of caution on that everybody here understands emotionally the strength of what you're saying. one, you always want the evidence in one case to stand for one case right? you don't want to project it on
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to others. and two, i would question whether or not the officer was going to walk away. he said he shot one shot because of fear. and he shot at this guy eight times. i don't know how many times he hit him. when the forensics would have come back on this poor man's body. i think he had trouble, anyway. no question mo we got to wrap it up for now, we're going to keep talking about it. this video is going to open a window into how these situations are investigated. investigated. because if you don't have a video like this these cases are very hard. errol lewis, thank you for taking us back to the first step mo ivory as well. so we don't get lost in the emotion of the moment. it opens up a big debate again. it is one case one video on one case but it is going to have bigger meaning, you know that as well as i do. we have a discussion what does it mean to you? tweet us or go to facebook/newday and tell us what you think so we can continue the
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conversation. nobody doubts dzokhar tsarnaev's guilt in the boston marathon bombing trial because his attorney says he did it. why does the jury need a second day to deliberate? what questions do they have for the judge? we'll take to you boston, live, next.
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a second round of jury deliberations in the boston bombing trial gets under way this morning. on tuesday, the panel could not reach a verdict after seven hours, and they sent out two undisclosed questions to the judge. let's get do cnn's alexandra field tracking all of the latest for us from boston. what do we know this morning? >> hey there, alisyn the case isn't exactly a who done it. dzokhar's attorneys have admitted to his role in it. but the jury does have the responsibility of looking at each of the 30 counts that he's charged with and determining whether or not the government met its burden of proof. a lot of people thought the process would move swiftly. this is the first time that the jury has been together behind closed doors where they're able to talk freely about the testimony they've heard and the first time they've had access to
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every piece of evidence that's been entered into the case over the last couple of weeks. we know already the process has raised a couple of questions for the jury. they submitted two notes with questions forror the judge. the questions have not been publicly revealed in the courtroom. we expect the judge will help the jury resolve those questions later this morning. we should point out it's not irregular, it's pretty routine for the juries to come back with questions wanting clarifications definitions, maybe a little more guidance we should know more when the jury returns here at 9:00 a.m. >> we'll stay on that. we have big news this morning, murder charges for a south carolina cop after disturbing video surfaces. depicting what happened. this officer shototing an unarmed man in the back. the man, 50-year-old walter scott. it started with a traffic stop saturday morning at 9:30 a.m. the officer is michael slager. he said he had to shoot walter scott because walter had taken
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his stun gun in a scuffle and there was fear for his life. but that was before the officer knew that video existed. the fate of aaron hernandez now in the hands of a jury. which resumes deliberations late they are morning. during closing arguments on tuesday, the defense team admitted that the former new england patriot witnessed the murder of odin lloyd. now this was a surprise. this was the first time we heard this in the courtroom. the defense has always maintained that hernandez had no part in planning lloyd's murder. washington, d.c. was in the dark a voltage drop briefly knocked out electricity in parts of washington and maryland. including the white house and the state department. officials blame a downed transmission line at a power plant in maryland. the white house, which switched to back-up power so quickly we're told president obama did not even notice this. they dismissed any terrorist connection to this outage. but it was so bad, even oprah winfrey was left in the dark. yes. >> when it happens to oprah --
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>> this has never happened to oprah before she was giving a speech honoring maya angelou when the lights went out. >> i thought she had the power to create light, no? >> chris cuomo right there, @chriscuomo. >> wow, she's been revealed. >> she's big enough to do it. i stick with my statement. bad weather news coming your way. tornados could hit central u.s. today. with severe weather in the forecast as well. let's get to meteorologist ivan cabrera for the latest. >> i think we'll have plenty of that late they are afternoon. clash of the air masses thunderstorms in parts of michigan and just to the north we have snow. so it's that clash of air masses that's going to set up the severe weather threat later on. thunderstorms right now in illinois. temperatures well into the mid and upper 80s ahead of the frontal boundary to the north we have 50s and 60s, we have the temperature difference the moisture difference dry air from the north and upper level energy coming in from the west
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all of it trance spiring late they are afternoon. large hail damaging winds and the potential for tornados in some of these super cell thunderstorms could be producing some strong tornadoes. oklahoma city wichita, kansas city heading up into st. louis is the area we're focusing in on today as we continue heading through later this afternoon and the severe weather threat continues tomorrow a multistate multiday tornadic threat. we'll keep you posted on it back to you. >> pay attention to this one, guys. we have a disturbing breach at the white house, russian hackers manage to infiltrate the computers there, how much information did they get? was any of it classified? christiane amanpour joins us next. scott: appears buster's been busy. man: yeah, scott. i was just about to use the uh... scott: that's a bunch of ground-up paper, lad! scotts ez seed uses the finest seed, fertilizer, and natural mulch that holds water so you can grow grass anywhere!
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russian hackers behind a cyberattack on white house computers according to u.s. officials. investigators say only unclassified systems were compromised, but still, hackers were able to uncover private details about president obama's
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schedule. to talk about this and much more let's turn to cnn chief international correspondent, christiane amanpour, great to have you in studio with us. >> good to be here. >> the hackers got access to president obama's nonpublic schedule. >> as you can imagine, the white house is playing this down. and it did obviously happen several months ago. but hacking as we know is the big sort of weapon of the 21st century. we have russian hacking, north korean hacking, iranian hacking, chinese hacking. it shows how sensitive these modern technologies is. how much protection you need. this has been going on since time immemorial. in the clinton administration there was a huge department where russian bugs were placed in the state department 15 to 18 years ago. it's the progression of foreign governments, if it turns out to be a foreign government or troublemaker hackers who have the ability to be able to play cat-and-mouse with whatever technology exists.
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it is quite easy to outsmart technology. and people just have to keep trying to build up the defenses better and better. >> another big story, yemen. you keep hearing from your sources, so do we focusing on yemen. this will become the devil's playground. you don't understand how serious this is. what's the context? >> the context is and we've been saying this in our discussions, since this has gone to hell in hand basket really. this was all for many years through president obama's administration the center of the counterterrorism strategy in that reason. when they successfully got al qaeda out of afghanistan and then busted them up in pakistan they started moving to yemen and we know that the famous underwear bomber, aqapl qaeda in the arabian peninsula, they have a lot of capability there. john brennan, president obama's counterterrorism adviser and now head of the c.i.a.
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billions of american dollars have gone into the counterterrorism structure there. and yet, they hung their policy around trying to build up you know, a central government their own security forces but there's a little bit of defensive play right now from the white house, even this week the press spokesman, josh earnest earnest, called that the successful model. it's not successful at the moment. >> you have anthony blinken in saudi arabia delivering more weapons to the saudis. who are engaged in this remarkable intervention in yemen right now with other arab countries. do you think there's any reservations in the administration about being so public about taking such sides here? >> i don't think so basically in for a penny, in for a pound. presumably they're trying to protect the massive investment that's already in there. and knowing that you know which side do you want to win? right now al qaeda is exploiting this vacuum. the saudis have done you know got quite a good cobbled
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together a local coalition. the americans are providing some weapons, some intelligence doing what they can, they may or may not be a ground invasion. every day we hear that maybe the saudis will put boots on the ground. two things one, it's not working, the houthis are still, still massively advancing. some of their bases have been somewhat disrupted. and two, you know it's very very difficult to know whether this is just a proxy war, civil war or is it going to be you know just a massive collapse. >> when you say proxy? >> the saudis are backing right now, one group. they say the iranians are backing another. >> you're very slow on that why? >> because there's no physical proof. everybody says because it's a shiite sect and certainly the iranians have said stop the intervention. but i've tried to figure out and asked and asked about tangible proof is the iranian general there? are iranian weapons getting
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there? as yet, i haven't, nobody has been able to deliver that proof. and from any platform or podium. so but it doesn't matter it's still a major, major issue that's going on there. >> christiane always great to have you on to give us context like this. president obama tackling the issue of climate change never guess what he said he can do to your health if nothing is done to fight the problem? he sat down one-on-one with our dr. sanjay gupta. stay with us. [ laughing ] want to play hide and seek? yeah! 1... 2... 6... 10! [ female announcer ] piña colada yoplait. it is so good when you need a little escape. [ mom ] still counting.
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i remember when i first went to college in los angeles in 1979 the air was so bad that you couldn't go running outside. and you'd have air quality alerts and people who had respiratory problems or were vulnerable had to stay inside. we took action and there's a lot better incidence of asthma and other diseases wept down. the same is true of climate change. >> that's president obama talking about the threat that climate change poses to public health. he addressed that issue at howard university.
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cnn's chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta was there, you saw him speaking one-on-one with the president. sanjay joins us now. live from the white house. i've heard the president talk? somewhat personal ways about clng and the threat on personal health. he said his daughter malia suffered from asthma so he was acutely aware of situations that climate change can pose. what's the science linking climate change to health issues? >> that's a great question. it's where we started the interview yesterday as well. i think the best way to sort of characterize the science is still emerging. i mean one of the things you'll read often is that many doctors believe climate change is affecting their patients and that is happening now. but exactly in what ways i think is part of what they're still trying to define. you mentioned asthma they say asthma rates have doubled over the last three decades. the question just how much of that is due to climate change how much of that is due to other things. is not completely settled. but i think what people do agree on is that asthma worsening or
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exacerbations can happen because of climate change. because of more particulates in the air. i think this is a reframing in some ways of climate change and global warming. as more of a public health issue. i think it's been going on for some time. it's the first time we've heard the president speak so forcefully about it. >> doctor what can we do about it? how can we protect ourselves? >> when i talked to the president about that i think there was a message in here for the community at large. also for doctors and nurses to be aware of climate change as potentially being a factor in what is causing some of their patients' illnesses, i think for the average person it's going to be more of a question. recognizing the air quality around you. they got a partnership for example with microsoft and google. to allow people to be empowered, to measure the air quality in their communities, even in their homes. you know right now, i think the message was more for the medical community at large.
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and obviously for carbon emitters. coal-fired power plants saying we need to reduce emissions, reduce them by 28-30% by the year 2025. we've been talking about global warming, talking about climate change for a long time. i think this again reframing of it as a public health issue is something that everybody you know he says should pay attention to. >> so tying climate change to personal health and public health. obviously the biggest health care issue the president has dealt with in his presidency is health care itself. the passing of the affordable care act. the supreme court once again weighing a decision that could in some ways derail obamacare. did you have a chance to talk to him about that? >> i asked him about that you couldn't do an interview with him about health without talking about this topic. look you're right, john. at some point this spring we're going to hear again from the supreme court, a major challenge to the affordable care act. what it has to do basically is states that do not have
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state-based exchange will people in those states be able to continue to receive subsidies? i asked him about that and i also asked him look if the supreme court decision rules against the affordable care act, what is the plan b? listens to what he said. >> if the supreme court made a ruling that said the folks who have federal exchange don't get the tax credits, what you would end up seeing is millions of people losing their health insurance. and the truth is that there aren't that many options available, if in fact they don't have tax credits. they can't afford to get the health insurance that's being provided out there. >> so really no plan b. i mean he's very confident, john that the supreme court decision is going to rule in favor of the affordable care act. the people are not going to lose subsidies. if it doesn't happen he just says there's going to be millions of people who lose those subsidies, lose their health care insurance. there is no particular plan b. so there you have it.
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we'll know more about that probably sometime late they are spring. but that's sort of the white house's position on the whole supreme court issue right now. >> sanjay were you guys both hooked up to monitors during this interview? there's all kinds of equipment as you're talking to the president. >> they were measuring my heart rate to make sure i wasn't fluctuating too much. no those were just props, we were in a hospital simulation center that's where they decided to do the event. but it did feel very medical. >> dr. sanjay gupta, great to have you here with us. following a lot of news this morning, let's get right to it. this is a cop who felt like he could get away with just shooting someone. >> the wounds found on my brother, they couldn't say anything but murder. >> they're more worried about the cover-up than they were about saving somebody's life. the united states is deepening the battle for yemen. >> we've increased our intelligence-sharing. a breach of white house
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computers by russian hackers. >> they've been targeting our infrastructure for a long time. >> it's not as safe as it should be. he was a 23-year-old kid who witnessed something committed by somebody he knew. >> the evidence in this case shows that hernandez was much more involved than just an innocent bystander. this is "new day," with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> good morning, everyone, welcome back to your "new day," michaela is off, john berman joins us great to have you here this morning. the this morning, south carolina police officers on the other side of the law, charged with murder after shooting and killing an unarmed black man. there is a dramatic and disturbing new video of this incident. and it shows officer michael slager shooting 50-year-old walter scott eight times while scott runs in the other direction. >> the officer says he needed to fire eight times because he feared for his life. but the video shows a very different account. the incident will also reignite
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the debate about excessive force by police. and who investigates these cases. our coverage begins with cnn's martin savidge live in charleston south carolina. what's the latest? >> good morning, chris, we're standing outside of the home of the parents of walter scott. and they have been speaking out. they're saying that they're grateful that the truth has come out. they're grateful for that video. [ gishtunshots ] >> this disturbing video has south carolina officer michael slager behind bars this morning. charged with murder. the three-minute video capturing shooting death of walter scott over the weekend. >> when you're wrong, you're wrong. >> taped by a bystander, it reveals the 33-year-old officer shooting scott in the back. [ gunshots ] >> while he ran away. in the immediate aftermath of the shooting police said
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officer slager stopped scott for a broken taillight in north charleston. through an attorney officer slager described a scuffle. claiming the 50-year-old fought for his taser and he felt threatened. in the video you see what could be a taser fall. and scott takes off. running away as slager fires eight times. >> shots fired, subject is down. he grabbed my taser. >> although he's lying face-down, the officer handcuffs scott. next slager jogs back to where he fired his gun and picks up something, perhaps the taser. but from this video, it's not entirely clear. back by scott's body he drops the small black object. then -- moments later, he picks it back up. the coast guard veteran and father of four, dies on the scene. scott's family attorney contends without the video, there would be no murder charge. >> the officer said that mr.
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scott attacked him and pulled his taser and tried to use it on him. but somebody was watching. >> when asked if race played a role north charleston's police chief says he isn't ruling it out. >> i think that all of these police officers on this force, men and women, are my like my children. so you tell me how a father would react to seeing his child do something. >> just about everyone agrees that if it were not for that video, chris, it would be an entirely different story. quite literally, as to the person who took the video, they remain anonymous this morning, and reportedly in hiding. fearing for their own safety. chris? >> yeah another detail that speaks to the situation and the circumstances surrounding these types of violent actions, martin thank you very much. let's figure out what the video means for this case and others let's bring in cedric alexander, the president of the national
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organization of black law enforcement executives and a member of president obama's task force on the 21st century policing project. they just released a list of recommendations to change the nation's police policies. it couldn't come at a better time. cedric good to have you on the show sorry for such tragic reason once again. let's begin with what the video shows and break down the moments and the aspects of this that speak to the specific case and also a trend that we're seeing and how to stop it all right? this is the video for people at home who haven't seen it yet. [ gunshots ] >> now cedric just for the people at home what we don't see on the video is the altercation that the police officer said spurred him to fear for his life and to shoot one time. that was his initial statement, that the police echoed. we don't see that. true. but just from your general
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knowledge, cedric fighting over a taser, could the police officer have reasonably feared for his life when he already discharged that taser and we don't know that he had reloaded another cartridge in it? was it a reasonable fear that he would be in fear of his life? >> what is particularly interesting about this case first of all, my hearts and prayers go out to the family of this victim. but what's important here regardless of what occurred prior to that shooting it is very evident to all of us who watched this horrible horrible video, that is so disturbing. you see a man who can barely run, run away from an officer, clearly of no threat to him. any longer. regardless of what occurred. obviously is not, don't have a weapon. he could not have had the weapon considering the fact that he's running away he's not attempting to do any harm. and the officer shoots him in the back firing his weapon eight times, that's disturbing. that is very hard to justify. but here's what's clearly
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important as well too. that agency that police agency took immediate action. they sought outside investigators to come in and in this particular case where the video clearly was very important and brought the evidence forth to all of us that we're seeing right now. was able to bring this case to a pretty rapid close. >> but cedric i do think it's important to check what we see as a chain of events here. outside investigators came in yes. but there's a big question i don't know how thoroughly you cover it in your report that you're giving to the president from the task force. but the police echoed this cop's statement early on. of course his lawyer put out what he was saying that's the lawyer's job. the lawyer quit once the video came out, we're told. but the officer says there was an alter case over his taser, he was afraid for his life he had to shoot one time. okay? it's so off from what the video reveals that it does raise the question of should the police investigate excessive force cases of its own officers
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instead of an independent body investigating them? >> no. i will say and it's in that report that you're holding there, chris, and that is one of the many regulations along with action items that were made in that report. along with myself and ten other colleagues as well too. is that it is important and we strongly recommend that any time your agency is involved in a shooting, is that you seek an outside independent investigator. i've had a couple of shootings here in my community over the last couple of months. what we have done and what we will continue to do to be sure that we're exposing being transparent, being open and honest and speaking to the community as quickly as we can around these shootings. but what's really important here we have to do is seek that outside, independent investigation, so that people feel that there's fairness and unbias taking place. >> under the category of god
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forbid there this is something that never needed to happen and his life is gone and his family is ruined by that. but god forbid we didn't have this video yet, right and the police are going along. the forensics were going to be damning for this cop because he discharges a weapon eight times, not once and hits him multiple times at distance. but imagine if the video came out a month from now. after those had been hit and we saw the nonchalance of how this officer cuffs him on the ground when is he's already incapacitated and doesn't even check his pulse for a while and then drops something near him and some type of suggestion of a cover-up. it doesn't look like he dropped it out of negligence, he dropped it intentionally. you know they saw that. and then they see later on he seems to pick something up off the scene. maybe a second guess. imagine if all of these things had happened and the neglect of the body and the nonchalance of the officers after they had heard a narrative from police about how he had to do it everything was followed the community should settle down.
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imagine how destructive it would be? that's why it raises the question of should people think this happens more often than we know, because there's no video. >> obviously people do think that. >> is that fair? >> no. you know what is fair is this -- here's the good part about this chris. there was video there and it shows a significance and importance of having video. and that sin credibly important. and it just happens that there was a bystander who videoed this -- >> a brave person by the way. >> absolutely. >> had that video not been introduced to us we would have just gone pretty much solely on what that officer told us. of course we would have looked at the physical evidence that related to that crime scene. but we would not have known what may or may not have been altered. it brings a great deal of suspicion when that officer casually walks over to that subject's body appeared to drop something on the ground. and then pick it back up. whatever was going on it doesn't look good.
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it looks incredibly suspicious. here's what's important here too, chris. is that that community, that local outside law enforcement investigative group, took immediate action and were able to put evidence together very very quickly, under this particular set of circumstances. that may not apply to each and every case. it may be more drawn out it may take more time. but here again, if you go back to that report that you're holding, it becomes very important to keep in mind as well too, that inside that report it suggests very strongly the importance of technology. technology i.e. body cameras. >> you say body cams for all cops? >> absolutely i support it for police officers across this country. because i think it provides one, it tells us and gives us more evidence as to what occurred. to support or negate either that of the police officer or that of
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the citizen that becomes engaged in an altercation with the police. >> cedric alexander thank you so much. we're going to continue this conversation a lot of bigger issues will grow out of this. >> absolutely. >> the video is so powerful for the final moments, it's what happened before that matters just as much what the police said how it was investigated when they moved on this officer. thank you very much for your perspective. now we want to get to a developing cybersecurity story affecting president obama. according to officials, russian hackers gained access to sensitive parts of the white house computer system including real-time updates on the president's schedule. cnn's evan perez joins us live from washington with the latest. this is troubling, evan. >> that's right, alisyn. these rush hackers broke into sensitive parts of the white house email system. in real-time they could see parts of the president's schedule not disclosed to the public. the hackers got in by breaking into the state department's email servers, once this there they tricked someone into giving
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them access to the system serving the executive office of the president. the white house last october disclosed suspicious activity in its unclassified email systems. but deputy national security adviser, ben rhodes told cnn's wolf blitzer last night on the "situation room," that even a breach of unclassified email is serious. >> evan thank you very much. we have u.s. investigators believe that the hackers were working for the russian government. so according to officials they pulled off one of the most serious cyberbreaches against the u.s. government breach and that's why the intelligence officials are so concerned about all this. >> you think that the white house and state department should be immune and impenetrable to these sorts of things they're the very targets that are hit. >> it does seem a little nonchalant. christiane made a good point. saying it's been going on for time immemorial. everybody hacks everybody. it seems so dangerous, but
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doesn't get the response as it would if it were physical attacks. gunfire exchanged involving u.s. troops in gentleman bad and afghanistan. reports that that three u.s. troops were shot and wounded by an afghan soldier if that is the case that would make it one of the green on-on-blue types of incidents we've seen over the years. we'll give you more information as soon as it's available. chicago mayor rahm emanual wins re-election, he will get his second term after defeating cook county commissioner jesus chuy garcia in the city's first-ever mayoral runoff. emmanuel the first white house chief of staff for president obama campaigned furiously after failing to capture a majority against four other candidates in a february election. emmanuel won with about 56% of the vote last night compared to
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all police officers are bad cops. but there are some bad ones out there. and i don't want to see anyone get shot down the way that my brother got shot down. >> that was the brother of walter scott, the man shot in the back by a south carolina police officer. that officer charged with murder. after authorities watched cell phone video that caught the crime. we want to bring in brian hicks, the metro columnist for the charleston south carolina newspaper, "the post and courier" and joey jackson, hln legal analyst and criminal defense attorney. thank you so much for being with us. joey i want to start with you, you are a criminal defense attorney you've watched this video. how would you defend this officer? >> i'm very concerned by what i see and i'm concerned for the following reasons. the first thing you look at in defending something like this would be the immediacy of the threat. is there imminent threat posed to your client. >> and the officer says there was, they had wrestled there had been some sort of
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altercation, not caught on video and they had wrestled over a stun gun and he feared for his life. according to the officer. >> i'm concerned about that a person can say anything a client can say anything to me. the reality is what i see with my eyes. when you evaluate that and look for the immediacy of the threat is it immediate when someone is running away from you whrks he they're 15 feet ten feet away from you, they're going in the opposite direction, they're not confronting you at the time. that's something you have to examine. the these thing you have to concern me from a defense perspective is the issue of the proportionality of the threat any force you use has to be proportionate to any threat posed. if you're not under immediate threat of attack and you're shooting at someone running away that's a concern. the final thing that concerns me and there are many others but the issue of reasonableness. will a grand jury and will a jury evaluate this in the context of what is he acting reasonably. you match that up against other facts in terms of him being unarmed. and the fact that that video appears to show what i see,
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something being placed a weapon being placed there by the officer. and it's a very very much a challenge for a defense attorney. >> we should mention that his original attorney did drop the case. shortly after getting it. brian, i want to bring you in. because it was you, you and your newspaper that originally obtained this video and posted it online. can you give us more context about this video? what else you know about it? >> not really. an anonymous person whoever shot the video, gave it to an attorney who contacted one of our reporters. and we saw it for the first time yesterday afternoon. probably just a few hours before the police department did. >> did the anonymous person tell you that they witnessed anything that happened before they turned on their cell phone camera? >> we have not been able to interview that person. i do not know the identity of that man. >> we know we've been told that that person is keeping their
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identity secret because they are in fear this morning because it's caused obviously such a conflagration. what's happening in the community, brian, about this crime? >> things are pretty calm here right now. the best we can tell. it's sad to say, but some people in the community have been saying for years that the north charleston police department engaged in racial profiling and treated black citizens differently than white citizens. nothing like this has ever happened before. and so the sad cynical thing to say is some people say, well we told you so. and that is that is what i was writing about today. is that there are a lot of good police officers in north charleston. and slager has basically given ammunition to their critics, it's going to take a lot of time to get over that. >> such a good point. before i get back to joey what have you learned about officer
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slager? the man who has now been charged with murder? >> well we know that he's been on the force since 2009. he was in the coast guard. and as far as we can tell he only had one prior incident in which he tazed a man at his home. he was later exonerated slager was. but from what i heard, and i hate to say this because i haven't looked at the police report. but apparently the man tased was the victim of a burglary no the a burglar. mistaken identity. >> it sounds like it. so joey is this another case like michael brown, where what happened before the shooting matters? where there's some we don't see the altercation. can the defense say, something happened that was so troubling to the officer that he did fear for his life and will that exonerate him? >> it's a very difficult argument to make.
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michael brown stood on its own merits it was evaluated by a grand jury. it was what it was. this video puts it in context, the defense will argue that there's things we don't see that occurred before that may have affected the state of mind of that police officer. what he was thinking feeling, believing. but still in all, if something most egregious happened they'll evaluate the officer, did heavy any injuries what occurred to him, how significant were they if any existed. at the end of the day, the law doesn't allow for retaliation, it only allows for defending yourself and protecting yourself in the immediacy of any type of fear. the supreme court ruled on it said if you're a fleeing felon, the reality is you can only be subdued and deadly force used if you're posing a danger to the officer or others. that does not appear from the indication of the tape to be the case. >> do we know anything about the past and the background of the victim walter scott?
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>> he has a very minor criminal record. and most of it is nonpayment of child support. and he may have had an outstanding warrant for that right now. we're not sure. he certainly didn't have any felony. he was not a fleeing felon. that's for sure. >> brian hicks, joey jackson, thanks so much for trying to help us walk through all of this. let's get over to john. >> thanks a the although alisyn. so hillary clinton has not officially announced what she's going to go for the next year or two. but that's not stopping bill clinton from talking about his role might in a campaign. john king brings you the latest, "inside politics."
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a white cop in south carolina is behind bars facing murder charges for shooting and killing a black man. no grand jury no real delay. why? the video you're looking at right now taken by a bystander showing the officer shooting at an unarmed 50-year-old who is lumbering away at the time after a traffic stop went wrong. officer michael slager and the
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police department had been saying he had to shoot walter scott because scott had taken his stun gun and he shot once. but the video obviously shows much more. not just the alleged murder but also slager dropping the stun gun near scott's body after the shooting. scott's family is now planning a civil lawsuit. the russian hackers behind a sophisticated state department cyberattack apparently also gained access to sensitive parts of the white house computer system. the breach reportedly included nonpublic details of president obama's schedule. and national security official maintains the attack only affected the unclassified system. and the government workers are advised not to share sensitive information there. this morning, investigators trying to figure out what caused a private plane to crash, killing all seven people on board. the plane was returning to illinois from the ncaa tournament in indianapolis when it went down. among those killed an illinois state university basketball coach, and another member of that college's athletic
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department. so you lose a go pro at about 10,000 feet i think we found it. this is a sky diver's go pro camera, it slips from his helmet. plummets 10,000 feet to the ground. this would be like if you were the camera the camera remains intact. it hits the ground it's okay. the man who found the go pro in sweden is trying to track down the owner to return it. the footage is believed to be four years old. >> that looks like saturday night to me. that's my memories of saturday night like that. >> that needs to be a commercial for go pro. it's indestructible. >> if it was a go pro. >> they need to use that in their advertising. >> it lasted in a fall from 10,000 feet. >> i think that's a great segue, let's bring in john king with "inside politics" on "new day," good morning, john. >> i'm kind of tempted to go inside berman's saturday night after that.
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we'll just leave that where it is. >> parcheesi. >> with me margaret talbot and of bloomberg. >> we know the bill b.i.g. challenge for rand paul the son of ron paul started his career in politics saying let's reduce the american military presence overseas. the republican establishment especially with the rise of isis is nervous about that. listen to rand paul yesterday in his announcement speech trying to thread the needle. >> conservatives should not succomb though to the notion that a government inept at home will somehow succeed in building nations abroad. i envision a national defense that promotes as reagan put it peace. through strength. >> will the conservatives accept the rand paul comparing himself to ronde ragonald reagan? >> the neoconservatives are not
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going to accept him, they're targeting him with a pretty large television buy, going after him. which raises a larger question about rand's candidacy and his whole political identity. the short-term versus the long-term. he's making a short-term play to accommodate the national security conservatives in his party and also frankly the cultural conservatives in in his party. would he have been better off being more true to a libertarian approach and making a long-term play to be a viable candidate down the road by forcing the party to become more of a libertarian party? what he's done now essentially is trying to be viable this time around. but doing so do you lose your own identity as the sort of libertarian style candidate? >> you can see the tension. the more the he embraces the establishment, the more the libertarians might say wait a minute this is not rand paul. who are you, we don't accept this are you genuine? >> but peace through strength are not three random words
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strung together that is a rallying cry of the neoconservative movement originally the specific use of those three words is more than just a move to accommodate. it's a buzz word buzz phrase it's all in the eye of the beholder president obama would say he's operating from a position of strength. rand paul would say president obama is operating from a position of weakness. >> can he keep his tea party slice, keep the libertarians without losing them grow into the mainstream republican establishment, one of the guys who hopes to block him is former florida governor jeb bush. listen to him saying welcome to the race but -- >> libertarianism definitely has a place in the gop. we all share a common belief that we need to limit government's power. i do think there's some differences of opinion on foreign policy. should i get into the race? i'll express my views about the need for a strong national defense and for an america that is consistent so our friends know that we have their back and our enemies fear us a little bit. that's what creates peace and stability, which i think is the objective that everybody wants.
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>> rand paul's presence guarantees a debate we're going to have anyway. they believe the republicans do that hillary clinton will be the democratic nominee. they want to go after her record as secretary of state. they believe, the republicans do that president obama has mishandled isis or boko haram. >> it insures it takes place. it would have been a more robust debate had rand stuck to his more sort of pure libertarian approach on foreign policy. but this is someone who has signed the tom cotton letter to iran. this is somebody who introduced during the budget process an amendment to increase defense spending. which is unthinkable. >> and we'll be hearing more about israel a lot. >> it will take place, i just think it would have been much more robust had he run on a more sort of ron paul-esque candidacy. >> where he was a year ago. but the times have changed. he's adapting to the changing world events. the question is does he lose some of his standing because of
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that another world event that could become an issue in this campaign and will become a big issue in the country and around the world. the president is going to a regional summit in panama we know that raoul castro will be there. remember we have to go back to the eisenhower administration a long time they didn't have this thing called cable television back then. >> no twitter. >> the question is how much of an interaction, how much of a dialogue between an american president and a cuban leader? a big question for the president is do you take cuba off the list of countries that are state sponsors of terrorism? listen to what the president told npr about it he said he's waiting for a state department recommendation but he is looking to turn the page. >> i don't expect an immediate transformation to cuban/american relationship overnight. but i do see the possibility, a great hunger within cuba to begin a change a process that ultimately i think can lead to more freedom and more opportunity. >> now he's optimistic looking
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at the long-term. he also notes i assume if he spends a lot of time with raoul castro the conservatives, like they do with iran will say what do you do if you can't trust these people? >> the white house said there's not going to be a bilateral meeting where he and castro hammer out stuff and sit down. but they haven't ruled out a number of interactions to just sitting hey, how is it going or sitting together in group meetings or spending time together on the sidelines or inside the summit. the question is is he going to take cuba off of the state sponsors of terror list? this is a designation that goes back to the reagan era. if you go to the state department page and you actually read what the designations are. it's a pretty half-hearted designation to begin with if you read it on the page. it deals with things like farc and basque separatists. the president, even if he doesn't go all the way, it seems like they may be poised to. even just in raising the issue is signaling pretty clearly he
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wants to go. >> the question is why give them another carrot when they have not reciprocated in the american government view including the obama administration's view with more openness freeing political prisoners and things like that? >> this is a cornerstone of president obama's foreign policy. the so-called obama doctrine which is basically instead of using sticks you know try some carrots. the isolation against a lot of these regimes hasn't worked over the years, he would argue it's been self-defeating it hasn't changed the status quo, let's try a different approach. >> bill clinton is on the cover of "town and country" magazine. i repeat. bill clinton son the cover of "town and country" magazine. i love this idea. mr. president, if were you a tree what kind of tree would you be. he's talking about his potential role in a hillary clinton campaign. he said i think it's important and hillary does too, that she go out there fast she's never run for anything before and establish her connection to the
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voters and my role would be backstage adviser to her as we get closer closer to the election. >> and that's a backstage role on the cover of a magazine? >> it jibes with everything that we're hearing about the coming hillary campaign. low-key, much more intimate with voters more biographical touches about who she is. and a very different experience than '08. the rallies crowds may come. she wants to start this thing slowly. and reintroduce herself to the american electorate. >> it's just yet another exclamation point in the changing of our business to help with the presidential campaign you're on the cover of "town and country." >> alisyn if there's somebody special in your life who needs a gistd and likes politics when rand paul launched his campaign he launched a website to sell merchandise, there if you're skeptical about nsa spying you can get a laptop camera blocker to keep the government from snooping on you. he's an opthalmologist dr.
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paul can you get an eye chart at rand paul's website and get flip flops that say i stand with rand that one is a bit more of a risk. somebody who people say has changed his position on a border fence or changed his position on foreign aid to israel selling flip-flops might lead to a couple of late-night jokes. >> i think you are setting it up perfectly. i like that you can stop the nsa for just $15, that's a deal right there. >> if you only knew edward snowden. >> thanks john. thanks for that. speaking of hack attacks, russian hack remembers said to have accessed the white house computer system how vulnerable is our national security? we'll get into that.
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cyberbreach at the state department and now the white house. well u.s. officials are saying only unclassified systems were affected they consider it one of the most sophisticated attacks ever launched against government systems. joining us is is former homeland security and counterterrorism
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adviser fran townsend. thanks for being here. the headline say larmis alarming, russia hacks the white house. >> there's nothing new about spying. then it moves on to more sophisticated things like electronic surveillance i remember doing a case where they planted a bug in the state department conference room. and they were actually monitoring that. this is a long history of russian spying against americans. here's what makes it different. we know that the russians have got a very capable cyber offensive capability. we've seen it before we've seen it against georgia. we've seen them shutting down systems including dedicated denial of service. this is far more aggressive. what they're talking about is this is an offensive operation. and it's very targeted. even though it's a classified system. we know now that the president's schedule may have been accessed. what they're not telling you is these are the systems that they
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write the talking points, they do the negotiating strategy. was the iranian negotiating strategy breached? we don't know that the dialogue between the state department and the white house about policy positions, predecisional. that is officials going back and forth, who's on what side of a policy argument? that's the kind of very valuable intelligence that the russians can get at. >> it may not be classified doesn't mean it's not sensitive. fran you call it a very sophisticated operation. and i've heard that phrase tossed around over the last several hours. the way they got into the white house apparently was through phishing which is what happens to people you know when they're like j. crew account. you say we've got a great deal for you. open this email. this does not sound like a sophisticated attack. >> no but people are more aware, people talk about phishing they understand you're not talking about a rod and reel. they understand that now, that's good. the ability to launch a phishing attack has gotten better. i got one, it said apple pay.
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i have an apple pay account, and you click on it and there's no reason the icon looks right. all of it looks right until you look at the domain. when you go to reply to this. look at the email address at the top and you realize it's going to a gomail account. it couldn't possibly be apple pay. >> you and me and my grandparents and stuff with their gmail accounts it's not supposed to happen in the white house, right? >> it isn't. but these guys are very sophisticated. they'll get into the state department system and they use that as what we call a trojan. that is you then go in when the state department account, goes into the white house, in an email, you travel with it and you're masked that way to get inside the white house system. >> does the white house, u.s. government have a way to detect this as it's happening or when it has happened? do you know when you've been hacked? >> we didn't. we didn't originally right? going back to my time in the white house, i left in 200, early 2008. we were just setting up those systems. so the answer is now yes, they've got the ability to
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monitor the perimeter of each of the government entities the domain accounts and look for the sort of aberrant activity identify it. sort of put, restrict it to what it has access to and to watch how it moves about. to understand what they're trying to collect. >> watch how it moves about. in other words, it's there, it's still there. they know it's there. and they can't get rid of it completely? >> sometimes you want to watch it right? you want to see what it is they're looking for. so it's basically running an intelligence operation against what they're doing. and you can restrict then what they've got access to once you've identified it. the more difficult part is identifying it and make sure you've gotten it completely. think that's why we've heard the director of national intelligence jim clapper talk about how big a threat the russian hackers are. >> when you say russian hackers, i want to break it down. is that like vladimir putin behind his laptop? or not even that his intelligence people doing this? or are these criminal elements? and lord knows there's a lot of them in russia as well.
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>> you've got both. you've got the russian criminal who is are looking at your j. crew account, to use your example, right. they're looking at commercial accounts and looking for personal data because they can make criminal use of it by stealing your identity. but you also have intelligence services and you have proxies that are outsiders used by russian intelligence services to launch these attacks and allow them some deniability. >> and there may be some overlap, too, which is interesting. >> that's right. >> fran townsend great to have you with us. the secret lives of first families revealed by white house staff. some of the most dramatic details in a new book involve a power couple looking to move back into the white house. yes, the clintons. we have some of the book's juiciest revelations ahead.
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ten minutes before 8:00 in the east. how about the walls of the white house. imagine if they could talk? the history, the debotchery. a newly released book revealing the intimate details of the drama unfolding from 1600 pennsylvania avenue. who better than brianna keilar here with a provocative details. what do you know? >> you say if you walls could talk. if the staff could talk. they are now talking so we learn a lot through this book. nancy reagan perhaps the most particular of the recent residents in the white house. l.b.j. perhaps the most peculiar. and according to multiple sources in this book the clintons the most paranoid. >> reporter: as bill and hillary clinton prepare to fight their
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way back into the white house, a new book reveals details about the explosive arguments they had inside its halls. >> there was blood all over the president and first lady's bed. the blood was bill clinton's. what did they think had happened? >> well everyone on the staff said that they were convinced that she clocked him with a book. >> reporter: in an abc interview at the time clinton dismissed similar rumors that she had thrown a lamp at the president. >> i had a pretty good arm. if i had thrown a lamp you would have known about it. >> reporter: insiders said the monica lewinsky scandal reeling. an usher helped her get to the swimming pool unspotted and without a secret service detail. >> he escorted her making sure she wouldn't have to see any secret service agents staffers. she didn't want to see anyone. she specifically said that. he was so proud that he was able to make this happen. >> reporter: just a few of the juicy tidbits in a new largely on the record account of life behind the scenes in the white
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house. kate anderson brouwer interviewed dozens of former made maids, but the letters, door men dating back to the kennedy years. for the residents inside the private world of the white house. their accounts of everyday life at 1600 pennsylvania avenue seemingly ripped from the script of the pbs series "downton abbey." just like the show the lack of privacy is a constant theme. former employees describe bill and hillary as the most private first couple they've worked for. >> i've had staffers say the clintons were the most definitely paranoid first family that they ever had to work with. they didn't ever really fully trust the staff. it took them a whole year to really carry on a conversation while the staff was in the room. >> reporter: and the clintons had the white house phone system rewired so they could make their own calls instead of going through an operator. now the clintons ultimately did get on much better with the
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staff. in fact there are a number of sweet moments in this book not just with the clintons but with all of the administrations. one, for instance during the height of the lewinsky scandal, the pastry chef tells of hillary clinton frequently calling and asking for her favorite dessert, which was mocha cake. that was something he prided her on. he could give her that little bit of comfort. also a lot of the female staff at least amongst themselves in the residence let it be known that they were rather happy that hillary clinton had relegated bill clinton to the couch. yup. >> you said this was mostly on the record. are people using their real names to talk? >> oh, yeah. real names. former but the letters, florists electricians. >> the electrician. they know everything. >> they know how it's wired. >> an electrician reveals an interesting story about richard nixon and just actually right after he resigned the person who walked from the oval office to the residence with president nixon at his request was the electrician, which is sort of
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ironic. >> yeah. to your point. >> it's a good read. >> sounds like it. >> i was like this last night. >> i bet you were. >> after that i'm firing my butler. >> thanks so much. >> you bet. back to our top story, dramatic and disturbing. a south carolina police officer charged with murder after video shows him shooting a man as he runs away unarmed. we will speak with that man's grieving brother and the family's attorney coming up.
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shots fired. >> what if there was no video. >> shot eight times in the back. >> the guy is clearly running away. >> this looks like cold blooded murder. >> russian hackers were able to access sensetive parts of the white house computer system. >> russia has been active in the espionage space. >> they've been targeting our infrastructure for a long time. >> we are and the people of our country. >> we have expedited weapons deliveries. >> they can't overrun us by force. >> second day of jury deliberations. >> faces 30 different counts. 17 of those charges coming with a possible death sentence.
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>> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> good morning. welcome to "new day." it is wednesday, april 8th. 8:00 in the east. michaela is off. john berman is joining us. good to have you, my friend. the big story, a south carolina cop said he feared for his life and had to fire at a victim. turns out, officer michael slager had something bigger to fear a video tape. what you're watching right now shows the reality. there it is. the victim running away 50-year-old walter scott. the officer, slager shooting at him. this video from a bystander, a cell phone, and it does capture what appears to be a completely excessive use of force. >> as you said chris, walter scott, the victim was running away from the officer. slager still fired eight times. this incident reigniting a fierce debate about excessive force by police. we will speak to walter scott's brother. martin savidge is live in charleston south carolina with
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more. martin. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. we're standing outside of the scott family home. that family has been speaking out. of course first and foremost they are horrified to see the death of their son and their brother on video, and then broadcast around the nation but they are also grateful that the truth has come out. they are grateful for the video. this disturbing video has south carolina officer michael slager behind bars this morning charged with murder. >> i have two here, one on the way. >> reporter: the three-minute video showing the shooting of walter scott over the weekend. >> when you're wrong, you're wrong. >> reporter: taped by a bystander it reveals the 33-year-old officer shooting scott in the back while he ran away. >> [ bleep ]. >> reporter: in the immediate aftermath of the shooting police said officer slager stopped scott for a broken taillight in north charleston. through an attorney officer
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slager described a scuffle claiming the 50-year-old fought for his taser and he felt threatened. in this video you see what could be a taser fall and scott takes off running away as slager fires eight times. >> shots fired. subject is down. he's got my taser. >> reporter: although he's lying face down the officer handcuffs scott. next slager jogs back to where he fired his gun, picks up something, perhaps the taser, but from this video it's not entirely clear. back by scott' body he drops the small black object then moments later he picks it back up. the coast guard veteran and father of four dies on the scene. scott's family attorney contends without the video there would be no murder charge. >> the officer said that mr. scott attacked him and pulled his taser and tried to use it on
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him but somebody was watching. >> reporter: when asked if race played a role north charleston's police chief says he isn't ruling it out. >> i think that all of these police officers on this force, men and women, are like my children so you tell me how a father would react to seeing his child do something. >> reporter: just about everyone agrees if it were not for that video it could literally be a whole different story. as to who shot that video, that person remains anonymous this morning and reportedly in hiding fearing for their own safety. back to you. >> thanks so much for all of that background martin. we want to bring in now walter scott's brother, anthony scott. and joined by justin sandberg. i hope i have that right. >> yes, ma'am. >> thank you. thanks so much. you are a late add so we're happy to have you there, but i do want to start with anthony.
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anthony, we can only imagine what these past few days have been like for your family. can you tell us when you first heard that something bad had happened to your brother? >> when i first heard something bad happened to my brother i just thought that he had went down maybe had gotten injured at the traffic stop. and when i learned that he was dead i just couldn't believe that something like that would happen from a traffic stop. and i know that he's -- he didn't have anything you know tremendous happening to him in his life so i'm like what could have happened? gone wrong, actually. >> and when was it that you and your family first saw this video? >> i saw the video on sunday. >> how did you process what it was that you were seeing on the video of your brother's last
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moments? >> well the first thing that i thought about when i saw the video, i was like nothing that the officers had reported previously lined up to what was seen on the video. i was like that's -- he did not struggle. there was not a struggle for the taser, which i didn't believe my brother would have done that anyway but at the scene, the video, i was like he was running for his life not to be shot down not to be tased anymore. and i -- i think -- i think my brother might have thought that he was just -- he was not going to be shot. no one would have thought that. >> of course. i do want to bring in state representative justin becameberg now. mr. bamberg, can you explain to us how the community has responded to this now that this videotape is so widespread and people can watch what happened? >> well essentially what i'm
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seeing in terms of social media is a big one, people are upset. people are pointing out how wrong the officer was in gunning down mr. scott in the fashion that he did. i can tell you that as i stand here i have not seen nor heard of any unrest in the communities in the sense of any talks of rioting or any of that nonsense that we do not want to happen. and i will take a second and say to anyone watching we do not want that to happen. things are in play now and this officer is in the process of being prosecuted. we ask that you let the justice process run its course. >> and that is what makes this so different from some of the other incidents that we've seen such as ferguson. i mean the police department acted swiftly. at first they came out and it seemed that they had gotten the story wrong. they were behind their officer
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and they believed that he had only shot mr. scott once but then when they saw the video they had to backpedal and they arrested this officer and they charged him with murder. anthony, you have been so measured and so cool headed throughout all of this but when you heard that the police officer claimed that there had been some sort of altercation before the shooting that led to this and that he feared for his life what was your response? >> i didn't believe it. i didn't believe it from the beginning. once i heard -- once i heard the report and read the report all i could say and think to myself was that everybody will know the truth because that -- i know it didn't happen the way he said it happened. i just knew it. i knew because i know my brother. >> and did your brother have any violence in his past? >> no, ma'am. no, ma'am. >> can you tell us about the last time that you spent with
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your brother? >> the last time i spent with my brother we just celebrated my mother and my father's 50th anniversary and we had a big celebration for them and that's the last time we were all together. >> and i read that your brother was happy and he was -- he loved music and he loved dancing and you thought that it was sort of a real high point for you two? >> yes, it was. yes, it was. it was a great celebration and it was actually a surprise for my mother. my dad and my brothers planned it and she was just totally surprised, and now this happens. it's so tragic but i would like for america to know that we would like for this to stop and i would like for cops to be accountable and let them know that if they try this again, somebody may be watching so they
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need to think twice before they fire their weapons. >> and if i may jump in here. along those same lines, i want to go back to your mention, the swiftness of the arrest and the charge of this officer. i want to point out a very important distinction here is that after the incident sled which is the south carolina law enforcement division it is a state agency independent of the north charleston police department they stepped in and took over the investigation a of the shooting. the city of north charleston and the north charleston police department is not off the hook. myself along with chris stewart are representing the family and we do intend to file a civil lawsuit. we have concerns right now as to the initial statements that were
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made and you heard him mention earlier with regard to some inconsistencies between what the officer said and what the video showed we need to find out exactly what the officers who may have been on the scene saw, heard, and told their superiors. i will give credit to sled as well as solicitor scarlet wilson for moving things along. four days for a murder charge in a law enforcement officer shooting is pretty quick, and i think everybody can acknowledge that. >> yeah absolutely. >> but there's a distinction between the city of north charleston and sled which is the office that took over the investigation and made the decision to do it. yes, ma'am. >> anthony, we understood that your brother had four children. what was his relationship like with those kids?
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>> he had a very good relationship with his children. they have different parents. the older two have a different mother who is deceased and now they also lost a father and the younger two have -- was married to his wife. he was married to her. they're divorced but he brought them together like brothers and sisters from the same mother and there was no separation there and they loved each other that way. now they no longer have a father. >> anthony, what do you want to see happen? >> i just want to see more accountability in the united states. i don't want to see any violence. we don't want -- we just want it to be a change. we want this thing to change how officers handle situations and that a change can come over america where no other family would have to suffer the way my family is suffering right now.
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>> well anthony scott, your words are so rational despite what your family is going through, and we appreciate you taking time to share your family's experience with us on "new day." justin bamberg, thank you for telling us your plans to tell us how to fix what's going on in north charleston. thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you. >> thank you so very much. >> chris. >> all all-important transition there from the problem to finding a solution. and on that level, we just had the first election in ferguson missouri since michael brown was killed. guess what missouri made positive history tripling the number of black representatives on the city council. anna cabrera is live with the reaction. what is that? >> reporter: good morning, chris. this city has taken a big step forward. if you just look at the voter participation. in fact there were more city council member candidates that are african-american and a whole lot more people in this community turned out to the pole
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polls this time around. voter turnout was more than the city's last election. a hopeful sign that change has come. a fresh face for ferguson's future ella jones is now the first african-american woman elected to the ferguson city council. >> this is home and i'm going to do everything i can to make it a better place for everyone. >> reporter: jones is one of three new council members poised to transform the embattled st. louis suburb. >> you want to see changes done in a community, you've got to be involved. >> reporter: change the common mantra among voters trickling into polling stations tuesday. >> the voice is not going to work anymore. we have to straighten that out. >> reporter: the result new leadership that better represents the city's demo graphics a city that's almost 70% african-american. >> i am going to be the hardest working councilman period bar none. >> reporter: now with wesley bell and jones, the city
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council's racial makeup flipped from five white members and one african-american to three white and three black members. >> we want people in leadership that's going to do right by the people. >> lack of diversity among city leaders drew criticism following the shooting of unarmed teenager michael brown last summer. a department of justice investigation recently revealed systemic racial discrimination by the ferguson police department and municipal court system. some residents say those root issues sparked the eruption of emotion that led to weeks of violent protests and looting leaving painful reminders of the past and businesses that just haven't recovered. >> reporter: what are your hopes for this new city council? >> i hope for a change. pretty much i hope this just can bring ferguson back together. >> reporter: the future of ferguson is of course still in question, but this new group of city council members agree,
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economic development is a priority especially in the canfield green neighborhood where michael brown lost his life. residents there are counting on these new leaders to make a difference. john. >> ana cabrera, thank you so much. breaking news out of afghanistan. an american service member killed during an exchange of gunfire. afghan police say the shooter was an afghan soldier. cnn's senior international correspondent nick peyton walsh joins us now. nick what do we know? >> reporter: we know a u.s. defense official is declaring a fatality. we don't know how many others were injured. american and polish soldiers remain in place. we understand there was a u.s. diplomatic mission often protected by u.s. soldiers. they're very aware of the potential for these rogue afghan military to try and attack them. we saw ourselves in that same area how guardian angels protect u.s. forces as they go around specifically looking out for
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this kind of incident. now this delegation was inside the governor's compound in talibad city. they, we're told were leaving about to get on the helicopters that ferry them around the area. very limited movements for u.s. personnel in afghanistan at the end of the war. an afghan soldier on the top of a military vehicle opened fire. the u.s. personnel fired back. that soldier was killed and two others apparently wounded according to afghan local police. as i said, they're still piecing together the instance here. that one u.s. fatality will be the first known publicly since december of last year at the end of america's longest war. it's this kind of threat that is the most prevalent against the u.s. personnel. back to you, michaela. >> i'll take it nick thank you for that. another round of jury deliberations set to get underway in less than an hour. they met for seven hours and did not reach a decision on dzhokhar tsarnaev's fate. they did send out two undisclosed questions to the
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judge. tsarnaev faces the death penalty or life in prison. this 12-year-old we're going to show you right now is majoring in bracketology. sam holtz, he beat everybody, i mean everybody. experts experts, the adults. he claimed the top spot in espn's top challenge out of 11.5 million brackets entered. he's number one out of 11.5 million. he missed only six games out of the 67. he got everything right since the sweet 16 but there is a problem. >> what? >> espn says holtz is not eligible for the grand prize of $20,000 and a trip to maui because you need to be 18 to enter the bracket challenge. >> oh, no. >> that's low. >> so who wins the prize? >> some dude. 18-year-old guy. this kid's good. >> mitt romney. >> he finished 6,000th in the thing. >> should he get the prize, that's the question?
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i want to be paurt of a return to prosperity a true economic boon that lists all-americans, a return to a government restrained by the constitution. ou look at rand paul ted cruz with maybe rubio getting
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in there, maybe christie as well do you see a man better than you? >> the word is not better but i understand what they stand for. what they ultimately stand for is more tax breaks for billionaires never ending wars and major cuts in social security medicare medicaid education and the needs for working families. chris, the bottom line for me in politics is as a result of citizens united you'll have billionaire families like the koch brothers pouring millions of dollars in to the political process. >> as speech. money is speech. you can give as much as you can. >> you're right. you can spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to buy the particular candidates you want and to dominate the elective process. i think that is a horror show. i worry very much whether candidates representing working families can win elections in the future. >> why? is money too much now? >> absolutely. >> give me an example. >> yesterday we had an election
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in chicago. the guy i supported, his name is chuy garcia, he got out spent 6 to 1. >> by rahm emmanuel. >> when you have so much money coming into the political process. this is their agenda get rid of medicare, get rid of medicaid. get rid of the concept of minimum wage. cut federal aid to education and pell grants that is a terrible attack on the middle class. the goal is to do away with every major piece of legislation passed in the last 80 years and give more tax breaks to billionaires. >> do you see outrage about this because i don't? the supreme court made it the law. it is a demonstration of first amendment speech. both parties, you're an independent, you have a little bit of a pass on this democrats do it just as much as republicans, maybe even more. president obama got more money from wall street than the republicans did. >> all right. i think, yes, democrats do do it but no one is going to keep
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up with the koch who are prepared to spend $900 billion in this election cycle. that is more money than the democratic party or the republican party. meanwhile, the average american is working longer hours for lower wages. the average american is wondering how come 99% of all new income chris, is going to the top 1% top 1/10 of 1%. >> you don't believe anybody in the race right now wants to change that? >> those guys? >> yes. >> oh, yeah they want to change it. they want to give more tax breaks to the richest people and make devastating cuts on programs for the working people. they want to make the. >> rich:er and everyone else poorer. >> not what rand paul says. >> yes, how do you do that? by giving huge tax breaks to the wealthy and large corporations. the same old same old trickle down economic theory. >> hillary clinton have a better strategy? >> we'll see. >> why slow on hillary clinton? what has she said that you believe is suggesting of something better?
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she said she won't take any big money from people like the kochs? >> i think we'll have to do is see what hillary clinton is standing for. i will tell you what i believe, that is for example the trans-pacific partnership agreement is costing us a whole lot of money. permanent trade relations with china. i will tell you climate change is one of the great planetary crises we face. voted against the keystone pipeline. that's my view. >> how passionately do you feel about this? how important is it to my kids' futures? >> we are fighting for your kids and for my grandchildren. if we end up in a nation in which so few have so much and so many have so little where billionaires can buy elections, where we are not dealing with climate change i worry very much about the future of this great country. >> if you worry so much when are you going to get in the race senator sanders? >> well we're working on it. >> i keep asking you the same question. >> maybe next time i'm back i'll
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have a different answer. >> oh, yeah? every time you see someone else get in the race is it emboldening you or is it making you think it's not for me? >> when you run on the platform that i'm giving thought to running on that is taking on the military industrial complex, taking on wall street taking on the insurance companies, taking on everybody, what i have to ascertain, is there support in the country? >> the biggest income disparity we've ever had. people are not looking for jobs what else do you need to see? >> whether or not those people are so demoralized or whether or not they can -- are prepared to jump into the political process. >> people need a leader. leaders go first. >> no one else is going to tell you this. it may be that we are at a stage where we can't beat these guys they're just too powerful but i believe in what i have got to do. we have to continue the fight. we cannot let a handful of billionaires control the future of this country and that's all
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we're going to struggle with. >> senator sanders, always an important message. appreciate having you on the show from vermont. see you again, sir. >> thank you. >> keep pushing you on this. today at 5:00 p.m. eastern, kentucky senator rand paul right there, wolf blitzer is going to sit down and test his vision for america. john. >> thanks so much chris. a white police officer charged with murder after killing a blackman as he ran away. this of course comes in the wake of several deadly police encounters that sparked protests all across the country. our panel joins us to weigh in. that's coming up next.
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because system reliability i believe is number one. pg&e is always trying to plan for the future and we are always trying to build something stronger and bigger and more reliable. i love living here and i love the community i serve. nobody wants to be without power. i don't want my family to be without power. it's much more personal to me for that reason. i don't think there's any place i really would rather be. i would like for america to know that we want this to stop and i would like for cops to be accountable and let them know that if they try this again, somebody may be watching. >> that was brother of walter scott who was shot and killed by a white south carolina police officer on saturday. that officer now charged with
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murder after that shocking videotape surfaced showing the officer shooting scott, who was unarmed, multiple times in the back. joining us to discuss all of the ramifications our cnn legal analyst paul callan and cnn political commentator and host of "huff post live" mark lamot hill. mark i want to start with you. you've watched the videotape. what are your thoughts? >> it was stunning. i had read about it on twitter before i saw it and i didn't -- i still wasn't prepared for exactly what i saw. the most blatant and egregious form of police abuse of what i would even call police terrorism at this point. it was disturbing. it was disgusting. it was inexcuseable. i want to make sure that everyone talks not just about this man who died but to name the officers involved in this. to me this speaks to what many black people in america in particular have been saying for a very long time this happens with greater regularity than we ever want to admit.
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if there were not a videotape, we would be saying the police officer had a justifiable force, he was a monster, we'd be splashing his mug shot around. these are myths people are circulating. much encouragement to the person who was brave enough to tape it. >> marc this is from quest love. he is the musician on jimmy fallon's show. he tweeted something that resonated with lots of people. can you imagine the amount of murders that went down before the age and development of cell phone videos? this didn't start this year. paul that's an understandable sentiment, but we don't know the evidence of whether or not that's true. there are police shootings, sadly some of them justified, some of them not justified. what makes this different is there was cell phone video. the cell phone showed this man walter scott was shot eight times, tried to shoot eight times, then furthermore, he took what appears to be a stun
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gun and dropped it near the body in what appears to be a planting of the evidence and what we don't see on the video is any effort at assistance medical assistance in terms of cpr. >> you know going beyond that. i think the most disturbing thing also was here's this man shot in the back eight times, falls to the ground and you can imagine the pain he must have been in and the officer now is trying to cuff him behind his back. so it's an attempt at execution followed by torture of the suspect. it's as bad as you can possibly imagine. i was looking at some of the statistics on south carolina use of force cases. over the last five years over 200 situations where officers have used their weapons against civilian suspects. there have been about 70 deaths that have resulted. not a single south carolina police officer has been convicted in one of these incidents. >> what does that tell us? >> well -- >> what does that tell us? because there was no videotape
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or because all of those were just justifiable. >> i think you're right. it didn't exist before. the story is the same the officer was threatened or the suspect had a gun. you know jurors tend to want to find in favor of the cops so in the absence of video, police win these cases. >> marc here are some other statistics that are also telling. go ahead. make your point first. >> i think what's stunning to me is when you watch the tape how he automatically went into the defense mode. he wasn't frazzled. he wasn't frantic. he wasn't in despair. he immediately proceeded to walk towards the suspect, put your hands behind your back to handcuff him. the other officer came over, they dropped the stun gun next to him. they went right into protective mode. i'm not saying he has done this before but his actions didn't look like it was the first time at the rodeo. that's scary for law enforcement who may have a pattern of doing this. it doesn't mean that all police officers do this.
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that's never been the argument. the problem is this might be happening with more stunning regularity than we as a nation want to admit. >> this videotape is so damning in that you can never know what's in somebody's heart, of course or mind but the cavalier nature with which he appears to be going towards the body is something that gives you pause. marc what i wanted to show you were these statistics is the population of north charles ton south carolina is 47 african-american and 37% white. don't we need more local representation on the police force. >> apartheid south africa had the most black people. remember it appeared to be on the tape a black officer helping him. so black people didn't march and fight and struggle to have black officers kill us and black officers beat us and black
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officers harass us. i want police officers who are capable of doing the job properly. we need community-based policing if we are going to believe police are the proper force to be in our neighborhoods. >> let me throw one other statistic at you, marc. they seem to be equal opportunity shooters the south carolina police. because the majority of people shot by police have been caucasian in the past five years. so -- >> nationally? >> no in south carolina. >> and fashionly, by the way. and nationally. >> there are many more white people than black people. >> there is a racial issue involved here but there's an issue of police using force inappropriately against people of all races. >> look there's so much to analyze here. we have to look at the numbers and obviously changes need to be made. marc lamot hill paul callan thanks for your insights. let's get over to chris. california's devastating drought. i don't live in california you say, why should i care? because not only should you care about your fellow americans,
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alisyn. thanks so much for all of that. prepare to be amazed and inspired. razor sharp and full of life at 100 years old. so what are his secrets? cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta finds out in this edition of "the human factor." >> reporter: robust would be one way to describe dr. ellsworth wearing. the 100-year-old heart surgeon does his own yard work walks regularly and still drives. >> you drove here today? >> driving is nothing. i worked until i'm 95 assisting, mind you. i could have done heart surgery but it wouldn't have been fair to the patient because sometimes you need reserve strength. if you gave me something to memorize, i would memorize it just as quickly now as i would when i was 20. >> how is your health? >> i haven't got an acre of pain. >> the great-grandfather believes his plant-based diet is because of it. >> if your cholesterol is under
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a federal judge has thrown out accusations from a woman who claimed she was forced to have sex with brittain's prince andrew and attorney alan dershowitz and others. this happened while she was a teenager. buckingham palace and attorney dershowitz have stated these were baseless. joining us is alan dershowitz. >> thanks for having me. >> this judge threw out all the allegations. didn't say whether they were true or false, just said they are not pertinent to this case at all. >> oh, yeah. he couldn't say whether they were true or false. he saw my affidavit categorically denying the charges. all we asked him to do was strike these false and scurrilous allegations. they had no relevance. he did that. he did exactly what we asked
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him. >> so is this complete vindication or do you need someone to go out there and say now legally speaking these were false, these were scurrilous these were scandalous. >> i'm not satisfied until the lawyers and the woman admit that the story was made up out of whole cloth. she's now been served. she tried to avoid service. we found her in colorado. she will be deposed and the world will see what hey liar she is that she made this up out of whole cloth. i don't know her. i never met her. she just made it up. now we'll see that once the cross examination occurs under oath and if she continues to tell the story under oath she'll be indicted for perjury. >> you've sued the attorneys. where does that all stand? >> well fortunately, i have an opportunity through that lawsuit to prove that she was not telling the truth and made it up and i think they will no longer be able to hide behind the litigation privilege. they claim i can't sue them because it's part of the litigation. the judge has held that it was
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improperly put in the litigation. >> legally speaking it is not part of any litigation. >> no. >> now this can be -- >> i think i have a clear road to proving that this story was made up. >> a couple of months ago i remember you speaking to alisyn camerota offering to testify. have you given any testimony? >> no, but i'm anxious to give testimony and i'm anxious to juxtapose my travel records against her travel records to show that i could not have possibly been in the places at the times under the circumstances that she says i was. i will be able to prove categorically that she was lying. hard to prove a negative but i can do it. >> i've sworn under oath. i've submitted a sworn affidavit in detail denying each of the allegations and i will repeat that under oath and be happy to be subject to cross examination. i have nothing to hide. >> what does this say about the legal system? i mean obviously you've been involved with the law for
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decades, more than 50 years, but what does this say in your mind that your name prince andrews' name could have been connected to the case. >> it's just remarkable. 76 years old, retired from harvard, living the good life and it's suddenly as if you're the victim of a drive-by shooting. you are accused of this. there's no opportunity to respond because they claim that they did it as part of a litigation privilege. the law should not permit lawyers to just throw these charges into a pleading and the judge essentially agreed with that and said it was wrong and said that it was enough of a sanction to strike this but this may not be the end of the road for these lawyers. these lawyers made irresponsible charges without doing adequate investigation. they're now suing me for saying that and i'm suing them for the defamation for making this claim. >> this goes back to your connection with jeffrey epstein. >> i was his lawyer. >> do you regret his
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acquaintance with him? >> i'm a lawyer. when people are in trouble, they come to me. i don't regret representing people and i did a good job for him. i got him a good deal. some people think it was too good a deal. complain about that but don't make up false charges against me and everybody else. people who make up false charges, the real victim are real rape victims because when there are claims like the ones made in "rolling stone" magazine or the duke university lacrosse or the one against me which is even worse because i didn't even know the woman, the real victims are rape victims whose stories will be less believable. i hope people still believe, rape victims still believe. but this woman who made up this charge should be hated by every real rape victim for making their life much more difficult. >> keep in touch with you on this. wait to hear from you again. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> chris. jon, coming up we have a very special edition of "the good stuff." a boy with the dream and so many problems winds up achieving his dream no matter how small and
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i see it in your eyes. you want to capitalize. it's time for the good stuff. some people did a very bad thing to john berman. they're called management and they neglected to give his show "early start," a mug. the basic issue as we understand it they didn't like him. mugs at cnn, they're like statues of significance varsity letters, so berman mugless, took to social media, the repository of broken dreams and started the hashtag mugs now demanding a mug. in true cnn fashion we did correct the error and ordered some mugs and gave them to everybody but john. ali got one for her problem. >> problem or breakfast? >> there it is. michaela to further her plan of canadian world domination. sanjay got one for use of medical testing and tom foreman breaking the internet. even erin burnett's unborn baby
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and nancy grace got one, too. this morning nancy grace has an announcement. >> bombshell this morning, john berman gets a mug. not a mug shot a mug. i don't have my own mug. did baby get his mug? baby happy now? >> wow. >> wow. >> wow. >> and she says you're guilty. >> so here is your mug, brother. how does it feel? >> it says a lot that i've never accomplished something quite this magnificent before. >> good ending. >> the new issue though the new issue, what's that about? >> what's that? >> the "new day" mug bigger than the "new day." >> carol costello to the "newsroom." carol has a mug. >> i'm just a little thirsty to start the news. >> little parched, 9:20. >> thanks guys. you guys have a great day. "newsroom" starts now. >> cheers. >> you got your mug.

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