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they were running a hotel before they boarded the flight to see their children. you'll hear their story. thank you so much for joining us. us. ""ac 360"" begins now. -- captions by vitac -- good evening, thanks for joining us. there is a breaking news in the war between israel and hamas. the role weather played. we begin with video that raises questions about post 9/11 airline security and raises a chill for anyone planning their next trip because it's terrifying. as you watch this, understand it is not a drill. >> hold still! hold still! hands up! >> let's go, hands up! >> heads down, hands up! show me all your hands, hands up, heads down! heads down!
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heads down! heads down! heads down! >> this is what passengers aboard flight 772 from toronto to panama city heard after a flight that included threats of fighter escort and when what you witnessed. pamela brown has the latest. what happened here? >> as we saw, anderson, a chaotic scene, dramatic moments caught on a cell phone video as a swat team stormed an airliner after what the airline told us was a quote agitated passenger who threatened the plane. the sun wing flight was only 45 minutes into the route this morning from toronto to panama city when one passenger made a direct threat against the aircraft. we listened to audio. it appears to be a bomb threat, so the plane turned around and two u.s. military jets in the air were dispatched to escort it back to toronto's airport where it made an emergency landing and that's where the security team stormed the plane. they arrested a 25-year-old
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male, a canadian citizen that remains in custody tonight. he'll have a bail hearing tomorrow. the plane was searched and nothing was located. no injuries or damage and the passengers flue out on another plane but as you can imagine, they are shaken up from that experience. >> what is the passenger that made the threats charged with, and were they actual threats about i'm going to bomb this plane? i thought they were oblique like i don't like canada, i wish i could bomb canada or something? >> they aren't giving specifics on the actual threat, anderson, but we listened to air traffic control audio and they indicate he was making a bomb threat. he's charged with endangering the safety on an aircraft, mischief of property, mischief of the lawful enjoyment of property and uttering threats and his father spoke to a canadian news network and said his son suffered from mental health issues, so that could
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play a role. but again, he'll have a bail hearing tomorrow. >> scary moments, pamela brown, thank you. the story raises questions, i want to get answers from aviation analysts and aviation safety analysts david soucie. pi miles, let's start with you. this was taken once the plane landed in canada after being escorted by u.s. fighter jets back to toronto and then the plane was stormed. >> heats down, hands up! heads down, hands up! heads down, hands up! let me see your hands! heads down, hands up! >> what is the protocol on this kind of situation? >> apparently, that's the rcmp, protocol. it looks a little excesstive to me, frankly, anderson, given all that had happened. i can only assume if they flue 45 minutes back, that the passenger who had made that threat had been newtutralized, p
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tied, maybe hockey players on board took care of them otherwise i would think the pilot would take the plane down in pittsburgh or cincinnati. given the overall tensions in the aviation world, and stretching everything back to 9/11, this is the hair trigger feelings we all have about flying right now and that kind of manifests in that scene with the swat team coming on board. >> david, the plane, as miles says was over west virginia and when it turned around, does it make sense and started to be escorted by u.s. fighter jets. does it make sense it went back to canada? >> they penetrated the air defense identification zone and at that point the aircraft until it's proven it's not a threat is a threat to the united states. so to land at philadelphia, land at cincinnati, the risk would be to say how many lives would be lost the it did that if it was a bomb. >> so you're saying under -- the protoc protocol, they wouldn't land at
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a major city because in the event there was some sort of incident. >> why risk thousands of lives on a potential bomb situation, although it does put the people on board the aircraft at risk, additional risk because they are in the air longer. >> they did fly back to, toronto? >> they had to get back out of the country. >> the adiz. >> the air defense identification zone. >> okay. >> which is our defense boarder around the united states. so it is -- they consider it a threat, they consider it a violation or breach at that point because it has been an identified threat. >> so as far as the u.s., they wanted it out of u.s. air space. >> it needed to get back to where it had to be so they could control it and it had to be dealt with at that point. >> couldn't it be landed at a small regional airport somewhere? >> possibly if that's what they decided to do. it was not the pilot's decision. when you're escorted by jets, you go where they tell you to go and don't mess with it. that's made by the air defense
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command, not by the pilot. >> miles, have you ever seen a plane like that being stormed? we've seen training exercises where they do it and u.s. air marshals in training exercises but clearly, they thought or felt, you know, there might be a real threat there. >> i guess that you have to operate with that presumption in this day in age, and that tells you a lot about how flying changed for all of us. it's worth remembering here, clearly, any captain, any pilot, they thought there was an immediate threat to the aircraft, i would be submit they would put it on the ground. i beg to differ from david. they can declare an emergency and put it on the ground, period. i assume this threat one way or another had been neutralized by passengers and from pennsylvania through the shoe bomber and under wear bomber, passengers have taken up the last line of defense in aviation. they are tuned to the threat, and they are not going to sit by and let these things happen.
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it's an unsung hero in the process. >> how weird is it for law enforcement to build an aircraft like this? >> to do what? >> board an aircraft. have you heard -- >> oh, yeah, every time there is a suspicion on board -- >> so it was really the fact it was caught on video that makes it startling? >> absolutely. the same thing happened when one of the pilots went out of control, it wasn't stormed with swat but agents. so the swat, you know, that isn't something i'm familiar with but others are. >> interesting, david, miles, thanks very much. we'll come back to them shortly because there are new developments in other aviation stories, so much aviation stories, so many. we go to mali and the crash of flight 5017 is to put it mildly a stark contrast to the scene in eastern ukraine, which we'll also bring to you. french forces have secured the debris field already. the helicopter located the wreckage near the boarder. all within 24 hours of the crash
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with flight 17, in survivors, 116 people were on board. there is no word on what brought the plane down throw bad weather a prime suspect. joe, incredible images from the crash site itself, what are we learning? >> a field of debris. the authorities saying it's so bad it will be difficult to reconstitute the bodies, human remains scattered all over the place. to preserve the evidence, the there are military units from france and mali, as well, trying to restrict access to the area, but when you look at this, it seems like there is not a lot to work with for investigators as they try to determine the identities of the victims, what caused the crash, but there is confidence on the ground they will be able to figure it out. >> france's president, i understand, joe, spoke about the situation. what did he say? >> he said the plane's debris field is concentrated in a limited area but still too early
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to draw conclusions but information will come in time. there are theories, including weather conditions as a cause but not putting anything aside because they want to find out what happened and there are open questions, especially the question of whether an act of terror was responsible. frankly, though, the authorities are skeptical that islamist rebels in the vicinity had the technology to bring down a plane at a high altitude. meanwhile, families are trying to get details. >> thank you, as we reported, flight 5017 disappeared from radar after changing the flight path because of bad weather. fierce thunderstorms were pounding the region. at that corner of the world that is not unusual. miguel marquez has more on that. >> reporter: flying into any storm can be a bumpy white-knuckling experience but flying into bad weather near the equator, can be a nightmare a band of unsettled weather around
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the earth's equator where some of the most furrerocious stormsn develop. you're flown in a lot of storms. >> i have. >> what is it like to fly into a serious thunderstorm? >> well, it can be anything from mr. toad's wild ride to the most harrowing experience you can imagine that you don't think you're going to get through it. >> reporter: in africa, powerful sand storms a product of the zone, a challenge for any pilot. this aircraft forming in for a landing goes directly into the storm. you can hear the engines rev as the plane enters the stand storm, the sky turns red, visibility zero. weather is suspected as the cause or contributing factor in the crash of air algerie flight 5017. a massive thunderstorm moving through 5017's flight path. the 18-year-old aircraft
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departed the airport at 1:17 a.m. on its way to algeria's capitol. to get there, it had to cross the itcz, the band of unpredictable weather. at 1:38 a.m., flight 5017 asked if it could change routes, a storm had developed over its intended course. the plane made its way east then north again. last contact, 17 minutes later, near gao mali. a similarity, 228 people on board in route to paris on june 1st, 2009. pilots on the airbus 330 were flying through an enormous storm spawned by the enter tropical convergence zone. >> that can be the most dangerous parts of the thunderstorm. >> reporter: intense winds at different directions. >> and hail. >> reporter: flight 447 was more than 30,000 feet over the
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atlantic. the storm shot up to more than 50,000 feet. the pilots added power, losing all control and slammed into the ocean from 38,000 feet. the crash of flight 447 found to be pilot error, what caused flight 5017 to crash now under intense investigation. miguel marques, cnn, new york. russia's move that could not only complicate the malaysia airlines flight 17 investigation but the larger crisis surrounding it. the war, the tender box in eastern ukraine. gaza erupting, israel and hamas agree to a brief pause in an increasingly but bloody battle. fact. every time you take advil liqui gels you're taking the pain reliever that works faster on tough pain than extra strength tylenol.
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new and troubling news from the war zone where flight 17 was brought down, the netherlands lost so many people are pressing so send their police and experts to the scene. the rebels that control the site are getting tired of any investigation there period. if there weren't enough, russia is sending weapons and shelling the area from russian soil. barbara starr has the latest. she joins us from the pentagon. what do we know about the russian weaponry? >> good everything.
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t -- good everything. t russia is about to send additional heavy weapons into ukraine into the separatists held area. this is going to be 220 multiple launch systems, heavy weapons with large war heads. they can go about 20 miles, this is going to give the separatists once they get their hands on it, the ability to escalate the ground war once again and as always, it is very likely it's going to be the citizens, the civilians of eastern ukraine that may pay the price and get caught in the cross fire. >> from the pentagon perspective, how much of an escalation is this? >> the pentagon considers this a definite military escalation by russia and it's really the unanswered question what is vladimir putin up to? how far is he willing to go? he's got 15,000 troops on that boarder, firing from both sides essentially. the question is, you know, is he going to respond to the
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sanctions that the west and the u.s. is putting on him? is this all going to cost him too much we'll go back? no indication he is going to respond and that is the only strategy so far. anderson? >> barbara starr, thanks for the update. more on the crash site itself. this past week resembles anything anyone has seen. they had easy access to the field and certainly more human remains, the problem, easy access to anyone whether they belong there or not. ivan more than a a week of mh 17 was shot down, the site is not secure, still controlled by the rebels and i heard some, sounded like shelling behind you. is there a sense of when this is going to happen, when this site might actually get investigated? >> the international monitors from the osce have been going day after day to the site. they were accompanied by
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australian and dutch experts, less than a dozen in all on today's visit. they say that they uncovered new debris that they hadn't seen before laying in the middle of a village and heard some separatists leaders were saying they are getting i'm npatient, y want a bigger body because they are running out of pay sletienc probably has to do with the fact the war here in eastern ukraine is intensifying. >> given the on going violence and uptick in violence and i ho hope i'm wrong here, i don't see how there is going to be a large footprint of australian and dutch police and investigators cordening off a several mile radius area and systematically searching for victims or searching through wreckage. can you foresee that occurring?
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>> a couple days ago, we were traveling freely back and forth. the separatists opened the way. some initial obstacles were lifted and the question being raised, why aren't people showing up? well, i think what we're learning very quickly is just how combustible and unpredictable the situation is. you've had a couple of ukrainian war planes shot down just within the last three days, the fighting is clearly intensified, the proposal to send potentially scores of australian and dutch military police and investigators perhaps some of them armed, i don't know how that is going to work in a very complicated place like this, how you can get both the approval of the ukrainian government and the rebels who are locked into this deadly struggle together for them both to agree for some kind of humanitarian corridor for another foreign, potentially armed body to come into the crash site. i don't know how you can put that together. >> let's hope it does work, but
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we'll have to wait and see. ivan watson, stay safe, thank you. >> a crash site where the fighting is worsening, where the arms are flowing with rebel patience is running thin and the crash site is unsecured. i want to bring in my guests. you know, david, you heard in ivan's report there about the difficulties, obviously, in this entire region. do you see any possibility of an actual crash investigation going on? >> honestly, i really do. you look at the accident that happened in colorado springs and how little there was left of that because it came straight down. there wasn't much left. we were able to determine everything that happened in that accident. >> but you didn't have armed insurgent running around -- >> that's the challenge. as far as disrupting the site, there is always going to be evidence there. somebody needs to go in and document where everything is with high-definition cameras,
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get it put together, document everything you can, get it on trucks and get it the heck out of there. >> does this make sense? the rebels, they are saying their patience is running thin. dutch and australians were talking about sending in military police, even armed forces, do you believe there is actually going to be an investigation? >> anderson, there is never going to be an investigation. clearly, at this point the best evidence points to the rebels. they do not want to come out and provide witnesses. they might have the planes pulled away as people wonder throughout the site but they are not going to have police helping with the investigation. we need to find out who shot the missile and why and we're not going to get that now. it's in the middle of a civil war. i've never seen a worse situation to investigate an airline shootdown like this ever. i mean, you know, even over the ocean you're better off and the russians clearly do not intend to help and they will step up
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the fight in the eastern ukraine. they are in trouble right now and they will keep sending more weapons across and right now they don't care about an investigation. >> miles, i hope i'm wrong on this and i very well may be but i say i kind of agree with bob here and my hope is that at least there is some sort of systematic search for the remaining victims here because it seems like at least get those, the people out and back to their families. >> i mean, that has to be first and foremost here. if there is any shred of humanity on the ground here, that's what needs to be done. there are families grieving with their loved ones just lying there. it's just -- i can barely say it. it's horrific. it's absolutely horrific. i should point out that let's not -- the photograph record is not to be trifled. there are photos that offer absolutely conclusive proof that this was an airplane shot down,
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the shrapnel pattern is conclusive. the black boxes are in england. they were supposed to listen to them today, may shed light. the tapes held by ukrainians, those are key, as well. really, as far as building an investigation, having boots on the ground right there touching that metal, which is seemingly unlikely, may not be critical. >> yeah, david, you talk about, obviously, from the ideal world, yes, you may want that. it seems to me at this point, you know, eight days plus in the best we can hope for is getting the people out, getting the victims out. >> i'm an internal of tim mis, he's controlling a site like this. like i said, i've never done an investigation in a war zone. i'm naive that way. >> you're talking about an investigation that could take -- >> see, there is a separation in my mind about the investigation.
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we're not looking for who pushed the button. we're not looking for that. we're looking for concrete proof in a court of law, if it's a war court. there has to be concrete hand held proof. >> but how long would it take. >> so many photographs thrown out -- >> how long would it take to gather debris to do what you're talking about? >> a good team of experienced professionals, i don't know about taking the debris off because i haven't been to the site but to document that scene can be done in a day or two. to document with cameras and drones that can document the area, of course, they would probably be shot down, i would guess, just to get it documented so we know how to recreate it and we have everything we need. we get the other remains out, if possible. that's as miles pointed out, that's critically important. in two or three days, that could be documented in three dimensional representation. >> bob, you have no doubt vladimir putin, i think the ambassador to the ukrainian u.s.
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ambassador to the ukraine said vladimir putin could fix this with one phone call. you have no doubt that's the case. if he called up the people's republic and said look, you know, set up a perimeter around the crash site and get this done, it would be done. >> anderson, absolutely. these people exist, thanks to putin. he is supporting this resistance and supplying it and funding it. they will do anything he asks them to do. he can find out who fired that missile and why and that's really as a former intelligence officer, i want to find out. i want to exclude the possibility somebody fired on that airplane on purpose. i don't think they did, but as an investigator i would like to know that. breaking news from the middle east, a pause in fighting, a short seize fire. later, a democratic senator accus accused of plague ris m.
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welcome back, as we said, there is breaking news, as well, in the middle east in the bloody clash between israel and hamas. not the seize fire that john kerry has been working on but a 12-hour pause in the fighting effective at 8:00 a.m. local time. sparking protest in the west bank, said secretary kerry today, the agony in gaza, the west bank, all of them together cannot be over stated. ken and wolf blitzer know at firsthand. carl is in gaza and wolf is in jerusalem. the pause in hostility is supposed to benin a few hours, seven-day seize fire is hoped for. what change and what is israel hoping to accomplish with the 12-hour pause? >> they are doing the 12-hour pause as a gesture. they rejected the seven-day proposal put forward by john kerry. they thought it made too many
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concessions to hamas, a terrorist organization. they want to make sure they don't give hamas time, they say, to regroup, to catch its breath, rebuild some of its stockpiles so they won't accept that proposal. it's frustrating for secretary kerry and others because they worked hard to achieve it. israelis and the cabinet rejected it. they say it goes too far. it contains conditions that were not accepted by -- that were not included in the original egypt proposal. so that is up in the air right now. >> wolf, how committed does hamas seem to this? >> well, if you listen to palestinians, not necessarily hamas but i spoke with representatives of the palestinian authority, the chief palestinian negotiator, one of the palestinian parala tar. they said they agreed to the 12-hour seize fire and won't fire missiles and rockets during
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that 12 hours and says hamas would have agreed to the seven-day proposal if israel agreed. israel hasn't agreed so hamas is not going to stop firing the rockets and missiles. we haven't heard that from hamas. we heard from palestinian types who say hamas is on board. >> we understand the u.n. tried to investigate today the blast at the un school. are we closer to learning the truth about what happened and who is responsible? >> no, absolutely not, anderson, because that un team of investigators did go into the school. they had informed the military they were going in to start the investigation and said after they got into the school, gunfire erupted around them and they had to pull out quickly. you've also got to remember there has been no chain of custody of the evidence. what i mean by that, nobody has been looking after that school. that school has not been sealed. it's been in the middle of a combat zone so anything really could have happened to the
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evidence that they find on the ground. the israeli military says it will launch its own investigation. the united nations calling for a full report. >> are there not bomb shelters in gaza city? why hasn't hamas built shelters? >> first of all, how much milita milita militant faction, if they can get their hands on concrete and rebar, they put that into building tunnels. we seen pictures from the deep under ground very long tunnels and we've seen hamas propaganda videos showing tunnels. they used a lot of concrete for that, not a lot of building materials into the gaza strip and that limits their ability to build bomb shelters for ordinary folk, anderson. >> guys, thanks very much. >> the u.s. ambassador to ukraine on what he thinks vladimir putin is up to. narrator: this is the storm
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after the downing of flight 17, some observers called it a game changer.
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vladimir putin would be forced to reconsider support for the rebels in ukraine. the nationalist fever that he whipped up would break and putin would find a way to back down. the answer so far as you saw on barbara starr's reporting is twofold, not yet and not hardly and that's a major concern for many tonight, including jeffrey the american ambassador at the ukraine. this new intelligence russia will transfer, in fact, it could happen, more heavy weaponry into eastern e craukraine, what does tell you? >> we're seeing two weeks of steadily raising the stakes by the kremlin and increasing pattern of destabilizing actions targeted on eastern ukraine. of course, there is a tragic shootdown of flight 17. we hope very much that that would give pause to some of these russian plans, tragically that hasn't happened. we see the investigators are being blocked at the site but at the same time, we see this
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pattern of escalating military involvement, the transfers of heavy weapons, the firing across the russian boarder, which is now confirmed, units in russia territory firing into ukraine to target the units. this has to stop. this is a dangerous situation, which threatens to spin out of control very quickly. that's not going to be feasible while russia is pouring gasoline on the flames. >> you said president putin could end this with one phone call. do you have any sense how many phone calls he's actually made to the rebels in eastern ukraine, what level of contact there is? >> anderson, i've seen no evidence of any interventions from moscow to deescalate this crisis with the separatists. we've seen no messaging from moscow to the separatists that it's time to come in from the
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cold, to accept the ukrainian constitutional frame work, to ac accept the process president poor ra shanko is putting on. none of that is happening. >> i spoke earlier today, a few hours ago with the head of the osc operation on the ground in ukraine, eastern ukraine and he said today pro-russian rebels told him and his staff their patience is running out at the crash site, investigators are going to have one more week or so to do their work, which doesn't even seem possible if that's -- if they actually stick to that. what's your reaction to that? >> their position is not credible. firstly, it's critically important the human remains at the site are fully accounted for. that simply hasn't happened yet. we won't know how many individuals, how many remains are missing until the forensic work is completed in the netherlands, but we know already that it is multiple individuals,
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whose loved ones may never know what happened to their bodies. at the crash site itself, i've said it needs to be treated like the crime scene that it now is, which means unimpeded access by professional investigators from all the countries the netherlands enlisted in this effort. we have fbi investigators prepared to assist in the dutch-lead effort. you have professionals from australia, the uk, germany, of course, from malaysia but they can't do their work when they are negotiating their way through rebel road blocks and when the separatists are threatening violence on the scene. >> is it possible that there could be a time and a time approaching rapidly where a military force is needed on the ground? there is talk about a possible australian, troops from the netherlands or elsewhere, can you foresee that actually occurring? >> our best solution to this
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situation is the implantation of the 40 kilometer exclusion zone that has been proposed for the crash site and surrounding territory. the separatists have not acre cemented that operation. they have not acre cemented -- accepted that proposal. once that happens, several of the countries involved in this international investigation have said they are prepared to insert police forces, who would be there to stabilize the crash scene, to ensure security for the investigators who after all are people who aren't accustomed to shouldn't have to do their jobs with body armor. that's going to take a change in tact from the separatists. we hope president putin will encourage that and the message that will come from moscow. at this point, we're talking about groups of three and four. they don't have continuous access. they haven't been able to put down a grid. they haven't been able to tape off sensitive sites. in fact, i'm seeing even
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yesterday a large piece of the fuse lodge was discovered a mile or two from the existing investigation sites. this is a massive crime scene. it's an unprecedented international disaster where you have a civilian airliner brought down by an advanced military missile in a combat area. it's going to take exceptional international corporation and certainly going to take a dramatic change in attitude from the separatists groups from the donetsk republic. it's inhuman how the crash site has been treated and undignified and cruel to the family members and inconsistent with the wishes of the international community. we need that clarity to come from moscow now. >> appreciate your time. thank you. >> good to talk to you. >> just ahead tonight, a decorated war veteran in the united states, a u.s. senator also, who also appears to be a plajerrist and isis angering
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college report that senator john wal walsh montgomery plaguized many parts of his thesis. his office calls it a mistake. dana bash has more. >> reporter: it was the final paper for a master's degree from the army war college but it turns out 46-year-old john walsh lifted much of it from other people and senator walsh is having a hard time explaining why. about a quarter of his 14-page paper on american middle east policy was plaguerized according to the new york times that broke the story and lays it out on the website. one example, walsh's six recommendations are taken word for word with no at bugs or here walsh used more than 560 words from a harvard paper, no at
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bugs. walsh actively avoided cnn and other reporters around the senate. when he did talk to the month mon -- he returned just before entering the college. i don't want to blame my mistake on ptsd but it may have been a factor he said. my head was not in a place conducive to a classroom and academic environment. back in montana he's backtracking. >> i am in no way tieing any of what i did to ptsd. that had nothing to do with the mistake that i made. >> reporter: to make matters worse, walsh's campaign tried to keep the focus on his combat record, not his academic one but this may have been more damage. it said he survived hundreds of ied explosions while in a
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humvee. it should have said the battalion survived hundreds of explosions. he did survive one in 2005. walsh has only been in the senate five months, appointed to fill a seat that's now ambassador to china. winning an election in november was an uphill climb in the red state of montana. they hoped walsh's 33 years in the national guard, never in politics would help but it brings unwanted surprises, walsh is trying to convince voters to keep his in perspective. >> the big scheme of things, this paper was not a life and death situation. i admit, i made a mistake. >> dana joins me with the latest and jonathan martin who broke the story. jonathan, this is just incredible stuff. a quarter of the paper appears to be taken directly from other people's work. crazy. >> a quarter of the paper taking
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with no at tra bugs whatsoever. this was not something senator walsh did right after college when he was a 25-year-old grad student. he was a colonial in the national guard, had served in iraq, in his 40s when he did this. >> that's the thing, when i first heard the story, i thought maybe this is something he did in college, maybe not a big deal. he was in his mid to late 40s, 46, i think. jonathan, he's now saying he made a mistake, as we heard there but at one point he blamed it partly on ptsd, now he says no way, that's not the case and you got a tote lil different explanation, i understand, two different times from his campaign. >> i did. i first talked to senator walsh on tuesday of this week and confronted him outside his office and actually showed him the documentation of where he had used the work of others, and
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at that point, i asked him point blank, anderson, i said did you commit pledagiarism? he said no. his staff said he was going through a tough time, he had thoughts of a soldier under his command in iraq that committed suicide and that it was mentally difficult for him. now senator walsh himself made similar comments to the ap, in the last day or so, though, his campaign stopped talking about that and senator walsh himself today on montana radio said this was not something that was the result of ptsd. >> dana, his military service, he's made that a corner stone of his campaign. what are your sources saying about his chances now? >> the problem is and the disappointment among democrats is that in polls recently, he was closing the gap.
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remember, this is a democratic seat as i mentioned, that democrats thought maybe they had the best chance at keeping with somebody with military service. >> have democrats, are they standing by him? >> they are. but they are standing by him rhetorically and symbolically and standing by him where it matters, which is in the pocketbooks and his when it comes to campaign cash. i think a large way to really view this is going to be in the weeks and months to come to see whether the national democratic party is going to give money to him and is going to support him in other ways to help his campaign. >> jonathan, what happens with the army war college investigation and what is the maximum punishment he can receive? >> well, i talked to the army war college, anderson, just yesterday. they did a preliminary review of senator walsh's paper. they did find evidence to make clear that he appeared to commit
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plagiarism in their view so they are going forward with an investigation that will take place next month in carlisle, pennsylvania. >> we'll follow it. great reporting, thank you so much. up next tonight, a krucruci meeting on the boarder crisis. we'll be right back. introducing nexium 24hr
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bullet bulletin. >> there is growing concern democrats and republicans won't be able to pass a bill to deal with the boarder crisis before congress leaves town next week for the entire month of august. officials in iraq say isis has blown up the tomb of jona. it is said to be swallowed by a whale or fish. the doctor leading the fight against ebola is infected with the deadly virus. in west africa more than 1,000 patients have been infected and 660 people have died. a new report from nasa shows two years ago earth narrowly escaped a solar storm that looked like this. it was big enough apparently to knock modern civilization with damage to an electrical grid and one study suggests the impact would have been more than 2 trillion dollar, 20 times
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greater than the cost of hurricane katrina. >> glad we miss that one. >> me, too. this close. >> yeah, well, that's -- i guess. wow. okay. all right. on that note, thanks very much. that does it for us. we'll see you again at 11:00. good edition of 360. "the sick xties" starts now. the communists seem to be putting on the defense on a number of fronts. >> we're behind and i'm sure they are making a concentrated effort to stay ahead. >> we may get beaten more. there are no cheap or easy victories in the game. >> we are aware of the international implications of the project but we're not in this for the race aspects. >> rockets for a lunar trip are being built. >> the first guards towards the stars were not without set backs. >> you're aware of the risk.