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it's really amazing to see that that number is exactly what the threshold is. >> chad, thanks. that does it for this edition 360. thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" up next. a killer storm sweeping across the east coast potentially ruining the holiday for millions and millions. plus prosecutors want amanda knox to spend 30 years in prison for murdering her roommate. will it happen? and the affordable care act headed back to the supreme court. will the contraception debate be what actually derails obama care? let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm erin burr nut. "outfront" tonight we begin with the winter weather travel torrential rain, snow, tornado warnings. killer storm making its way east tonight wreaking havoc for millions of americans trying to get home for the ultimate family
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holiday of the year. southeast being pounded with heavy rain, snow and sleet are starting to disrupt travel in the north. as you can see. more than 40 million people are going to be traveling. 3 million of them by air. and a few airlines are planning for the worst tonight. delta and u.s. airways already saying they'll offer refunds for canceled flights and waiving some fees for destinations up and down the east coast where some of the most horrific delays are anticipated. we've got the storm and travel details covered from all angles. i want to begin with our meteorologist chad myers who's in the severe weather center tonight here at cnn. so chad, obviously you've been watching this storm when it came from the west in oklahoma. now it's in the east and in the south. when and where do you expect the worst? >> it is doing exactly what we thought. and very few storms ever do that. it is getting colder as the sun sets, and now our map is filling in with this pink, which is essentially an ice storm.
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it's sleet, it's rain, it's 31 degrees. it's ugly out there. we're talking that's catskills binghamton and all of central pennsylvania getting covered with ice at this hour. it's only 7:00. we have hours to go before the sun rises and it warms back up again. this entire area will be an icy mess by morning. so buffalo, central pennsylvania into west virginia, even here toward hagers town picking up ice at this point. that's where it's going to be the worst tonight. tomorrow the winds start to blow and airports are going to be -- this is going to be an ice event for planes already on the ground. we could see cancellations because of this, erin. we're already seeing this is what the flight board looks like right now from laguardia. a shuttle going to indianapolis delayed. american airlines to cleveland delayed. supposed to go out at 9:17. express jet to montreal delayed. 30, 40 minutes, not big delays but almost every plane now is getting into this pattern because the cold air is in place, the moisture is here.
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it's beginning to ice up. it's getting very, very windy. the wind doesn't stop until thursday or friday for that matter, erin. >> obviously, people think about the storm. and yes, it is about that. but the wind perhaps even more so. how difficult could it be for those 3 million people who are flying? when you talk about the fact you're already seeing delays everyone cascading? >> here's the issue. this is what the airports, this is what the airlines look like right now. there are 5,700 airplanes on this map. if you canceled 10%, all of a sudden you have 500 plane that is don't go off tomorrow. you multiply that times 100 people or 150 that should be on the plane, there's no capacity for you to get on the next plane. because that next plane is completely sold out. there's not a seat for you on it. and all of a sudden you have these thousands of people sitting in airports waiting for the next available seat. and it goes downhill from there. a lot of people just don't get to grandma's house. so if you don't have to travel tomorrow i'd say don't do it.
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the train is the best bet. absolutely should be on time tomorrow. if anything's on time it probably will be the train. >> wow. it's unbelievable. of course why these things happen at the worst time, just seems terrible. all right, chad, thank you very much. chad sort of sets the stage for how bad it will be on the airports and cascade of delays. it is going to be a lot about that. airports up and down the east coast bracing for the storm, making plans to handle delays and cancellations. tom foreman is outfront in washington, d.c. what amazes me you hear chad talking about cascading delays. it gets worse and worse, seems like an algorithm thing, exponential. >> many more will be hit by the ripple effect, people sitting hundreds of miles away in what will be sunshiny airports tomorrow. to understand why this happens let's take a look at one hypothetical airplane.
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a regional jet based in cleveland. tomorrow it's supposed to fly to new york, then grand rapids, chicago, louisville, back up to cleveland in the day. the airline would like to keep all of these routes intact. but there's a simple principle at work. keep as many planes and passengers flying as possible. so when the weather forecast says this area is in trouble as chad was just talking to us, what the could very easily say at the airline is look, let's cancel this part in, and this part out. what they're trying to do is keep as many flights outside the zone working as possible and have as few planes and passengers stranded inside the zone. but what that does mean is out here, every flight, every passenger that has anything to do with the affected zone starts rippling out and affecting other things. and in a day with massive capacity issues like we'll see tomorrow as chad just pointed out that's when it multiprice and multiplies by all the airlines, all the planes.
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that's why you can be sitting in arizona saying the sun is shining, it's a beautiful day. why can't we fly on time? it's because of the ripples coming out from here, erin. >> so what are passengers supposed to do to avoid the ripple effect? because usually when you're there you try to run and be the first person to think okay well the delta flight from phoenix to boston is canceled, i'm going to go look at u.s. air and get on that one, right? you try to bet on that one airline. >> yes. >> because you want to get where you want to get. >> you want to get where you want to get. and if you really are flying into the heart of it or trying to get into this area, you may have somewhat limited options. but if you're not going into the teeth of this whole thing there are things you can do. escape options. first, go around it. if you're flying to los angeles to new york or something like that and you're connecting through cleveland, call your airline. see if you can go through houston or atlanta or memphis or somewhere else that is less likely to have all this pressure on it. second, speed up or slow down.
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either go right away, get ahead of it wherever you're going, that may be too late right now, or slow down. would you rather sit in the airport all day thanksgiving eve or wait and go thanksgiving morning on a normal flight? yeah, it's the day of but you don't waste hours and hours sitting there being angry. and the last possibility, let your airline help you. these airlines do not want you sitting in the airport or sitting on the ground anymore than you want to be. many are offering travel waivers if you're going into the teeth of this that will allow you to change your ticket, erin, no matter what kind of ticket you bought. look at what the airline is doing. contact them. find out. because the only make money if you're moving and if their planes are moving and they want that to happen as quickly as possible. wow, airlines and help. some might say that's an oxymoron. i'm glad to hear them used without jest in the same sentence. all right, thanks very much to you, tom foreman. appreciate that. it shows that they are responsive to what people need. despite all the complaints that
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so many people have constantly about them. still to come, america and china on the brink. so two u.s. bombers, b 52s, flew through china's air space and the did it without permission. and now china is about to respond in a big way. this is a huge story. we have that for you. plus a prosecutor wants 30 years for amanda knox. what does it mean for the american if she's convicted? and the obama administration continues to sell the united states on the iran nuclear agreement. but late tonight, one problem, iran now says the white house is lying about what's in the deal. the state department comes outfront. ♪ [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the mercedes-benz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional price.
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our second story outfront, america and china, superpowers on the brink tonight. the chinese navy is moving its only aircraft carrier to confront the u.s. after the americans flew two b 52 bombers through china's self-declared air zone and did it without permission and on purpose. is this the showdown between the two greatest powers in the world? barbara starr is outfront
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tonight. barbara, obviously a lot of tension between the u.s. and china over this part of the world, the south china sea. what are your sources telling you about these military maneuvers, b 52 aircraft carriers? >> reporter: what they're saying, erin, the don't expect military confrontation with china, but, and a very big but, tensions are escalating. already secretary of state john kerry, defense secretary chuck hagel, have weighed in on this warning china not to raise tensions in the area. so the u.s. on monday flew two b 52 bombers from guam, quite a long flight path from guam all the way over to the east china sea. and the flew right through this air exclusion zone. stayed about an hour in this area. and then flew back to guam without notifying the chinese as the chinese had demanded. the didn't file a flight plan, didn't raid yes their data, nothing. nothing happened. it all happened without event. but that may be small comfort for now. because tensions in the area center around who controls the
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air space, whether china or japan controls some islands out in this patch of the east china sea. everyone is claiming that the control them. this is far from resolved. so expect to see more flights by the u.s. through this area making the point that china can make its demands, but in international air space the u.s. military will travel as it sees fit. erin? >> all right, barbara, thank you very much. obviously a crucial development for the u.s. especially as it's dealing with what's going on in iran. we have much more on that because there's a huge development on that iran deal later in the program. our third story outfront, 30 years for amanda knox is the sentence an italian prosecutor wants knox to serve for what he says is the murder of her british roommate. knox's original conviction was overturned in 2011 because of a quote lack of evidence. but italy's supreme court decided last year to retry the case. it says the jury didn't consider all the evidence. our legal analyst paul callen is outfront. paul we've talked a little bit
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about this. originally she was sentenced to 26 years. she served four years. but now they're saying they want her to go and serve the rest of this. based on the facts, what is the likelihood the court comes to the conclusion she's guilty and should serve 26 more years? >> well, i wouldn't rule it out at all you. have to bear in mind that she was convicted once in front of an italian court. the prosecutor decided the prosecutor in the first placement and the italian supreme court when she was acquitted by this intermediate appellate court sent it back and said, retrial. in other words, maybe she's guilty. so a lot of italian judges have looked at this and said there's enough evidence to convict her including judges on the italian supreme court. this is a real tough call. she could be reconvicted. >> let's just say what happens? she's obviously not there. the u.s. didn't extradite her to have to be in court for this. she's in the united states. so if it's upheld, if she is convicted, 26 years in jail, the united states would have to extradite her.
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a lot of people say no way this could never happen. but it could, right? >> well, extradition lawyers are kind of split on this issue. and i would say a majority thinks she won't be extradited. but a substantial number say yes, she will be. we have an extradition treaty with italy. what happens when a terrorist goes to italy or a mafia hitman goes to italy and we want them back? well, we signed an extradition treaty. >> they'll say you didn't give us knox why should we give you them? >> it only counts for hit men but not girls from seattle? you have to make a distinction. if we're saying the italian system of justice ace joke and it's not fair as supporters of amanda knox have said, at least in the way it's handled in this case, what's going to happen with the relationship with italy? so it's a political question. and the secretary of state john kerry is really the one who's going to have to make the decision ultimately. can he risk rupturing our relationship with italy or apply the extradition rules.
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>> or not extradite her because of the american court of public opinion. we don't know all the facts. why is that court more viable than the italian court? >> because we signed an extradition treaty. when we signed that treaty we say we recognize your justice system. if you convict and give somebody a fair trial we're going to send them back to you. we expect you're going to send criminals back to us under similar circumstances. we didn't have to sign the treaty. and we don't sign treaties with places like china and russia places where we think there's an unfair system. >> plenty happening on that front. >> this is going to be a tough one. >> thank you very much, paul. let us know your thoughts on that. again it's a pretty interesting take. she could end up having to serve 26 years in jail in italy if this goes into conviction direction. our fourth story outfront a life-saving catch. a 61-year-old veteran is being hailed as a hero tonight. he rushed to break the fall of a woman who jumped from the upper deck of the oakland raiders stadium.
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you may remember we brought you this story first yesterday. the woman tonight is still in critical condition but she's alive because of this man. and he spoke to our outfront dan simon. >> you don't think about yourself. you just -- you just take care of the situation. >> reporter: 61-year-old donny navidad is a former marine and he has the battle wounds to prove it. only this one came 40 years after leaving the service. a rabid oakland raiders fan, navidad was leaving the game on sunday when he saw a young woman, apparently suicidal, about to jump from the upper stands. >> i really didn't know what intention she was having but it looked like to me she was going to do something. >> reporter: that's when he says his marine corps instincts kicked in, rushing to get in position to try to break her fall nearly 50 feet below. >> what i did was i extended my arms out. and what i was going to do was
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when she hit i was going to lock so when we fell we fell together and see wouldn't take the impact, i would. but unfortunately, she bounced off and she landed several yards from me. >> reporter: the woman is said to be in critical condition at the hospital. her prognosis isn't clear. but authorities say she wouldn't have had a chance at all if not for navidad's quick-thinking actions. >> obviously there's something inside of you that made you decide to do that and risk your own life to save that woman's. >> i couldn't live with myself if it happened, knowing i could have done something. >> it's pretty remarkable. >> well, that would have been etched into my brain and my mind for years. >> reporter: his act of bravery landed him on the front page of the local paper, and the raiders
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awarded him the game ball. but navidad's thoughts are elsewhere, with the woman whose life he hopes he saved. >> i would ask her why? why did you do it. >> reporter: for outfront, dan simon, cnn, stockton, california. >> it's an amazing story. when you look at his forearms and think and he held her? i mean, incredible. still to come, obama care heading back to the supreme court. here's the question. could this be the blow? can the affordable care act survive the contraception debate? an outfront report. plus china going to launch its first lunar module ever. will it pass america in the space race? that's tonight's money and power. and an out of this world story from florida. the father of an injured 7-year-old boy believes his son was hit by a meteorite. wait until you see the scar and the blood and the proof. [ female announcer ] what if the next big thing, isn't a thing at all? it's lots of things. all waking up.
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welcome back to the second half of outfront on this tuesday. the pope is releasing a bold manifesto for the roman catholic church. an 85-page document, the first official papal document written entirely by francis himself. in it he challenges the church to embrace the modern world and let go of some long-held traditions. he writes in one part, some of these customs may be beautiful but the no longer serve as means of communicating the gospel. we should not be afraid to re-examine them. you might want to debate what those are, but he called for catholics to stop obsessing over culture war issues. one divorcees being prevented from taking holy communion. which i didn't even realize that was part of the catholic church.
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but certain things like abortion still very firmly off the table, not on the table in this manifesto. we're still learning more about what happened the night a texas police officer allegedly handcuffed and raped a young woman he pulled over for a traffic violation. tonight san antonio police say there's some proof to back up the 19-year-old's claim that the officer, named jack neill, came to her house at threatened her. police received a disturbance call from her neighborhood. >> when officers responded, they found officer neill in the area driving erratically is what was said why the attention was brought to his vehicle. >> neill tells cnn the allegations are false. well, a story that is out of this world from florida. so a 7-year-old was out playing
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outside his house, right? he was bleeding from the head. parents were worried. but their first instinct was maybe horse play or a chestnut dropped from a tree or whatever it might have been in florida. wasn't big enough to be a cocoanut but according to cnn affiliate the boy's father thought a bird might have snapped at him. then he found those little fragments of rock as evidence. he thought his son was hit by a meteorite. you might say this is crazy. but the father had the rocks checked out. researchers at florida atlantic university confirm that the all meet meteorite criteria, including magnetic pull. these are things you never thought you needed to be afraid of with your children. isn't that scary? for those of you just joining us, our top story tonight the killer storm moving up the east coast causing huge travel issues for many millions of americans who are traveling for thanksgiving and hanukkah. torrential rain soaking the southeast, wet snow and ice now in the north, more than 40 million people are going to be
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traveling and 3 million of them by air. david mattingly is outfront at the nation's busiest airport in atlanta. david, what is the latest there? hartsfield never really a pleasant experience, but on a night like this can be really really awful. >> reporter: i don't know. i've been flying out of here for about 20 years now. and this place really knows how to move people. this is the busiest time of the year for the world's busiest airport. by the time this week is over there's going to be 1.5 million people coming through here. and so far so good. you don't see a big crowd of people here behind me. i want to show you the boards here. all these blue borders up here representing flights that are going out tonight. about 300 of them just in the next couple of hours. there is only one flight listed up there as canceled so far. what everyone is looking for right now that ripple effect we were talking about earlier in the hour. they are waiting here bracing to
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see how big that ripple is actually going to be with destinations up north. because we're still going to have a quarter of a million people coming through here tomorrow, just tomorrow, and a lot of them going to places up north of here that's being affected by the weather. right now here in the world's busiest airport not so busy. the security check lines just ten minutes right now. smooth sailing for everybody leaving out of here. part of the reason for that was that the airlines were proactive, cancelling some flights ahead of time to make sure that passengers had plenty of time to rebook before this storm actually hit the destinations the were going to. now if your destination is up north, and you want to be there tomorrow, you're going to have to pay attention. watch the weather reports and stay in touch with your airlines to find out what is happening with them. information is going to be your friend tomorrow. and if you are flying, bring a big bag of holiday cheer with you because you just might need it. erin? >> i wish everyone would bring that when the travel this time of year. even when they're just traveling down the sidewalk to go shopping. thanks to david mattingly. now our fifth story outfront is obama care heading back to the supreme court. today the top court in the united states says it's going to take up another dispute over the
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president's signature health care law. now, this time it involves coverage for contraception specifically. the specific issue is this. can businesses refuse to offer birth control coverage based on religious objections? it's a church versus state debate. out front tonight is our political director mark preston. mark the question i had all day was trying to understand this. when you hear about obama care going to the supreme court you get a flash back and you think the entire law itself is at stake. if the supreme court strikes down obama care's mandate to include contraceptives, would that mean obama care overall is dead? >> no. the bill certainly would stand
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on its own as it's currently written. the big question would be then how would the obama administration deal with it at that point? would the have to rewrite regulations? would we have to see company whose did not want to provide this type of protection for contraception and cost would they then have to apply for it. it would not take down the whole bill, erin, but it is a huge political football heading into the mid-term elections. >> huge political football. why is this headline such a big deal? it is, right? >> it's a very big deal for a lot of reasons, but it's a big deal because it mobilizes the two political bases. we've seen republicans and conservatives come out in support of hobby lobby. we've seen it all along but the came out in droves today when they heard the supreme court had
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agreed to take up the case. we saw democrats come out including the democratic national committee. let's take a quick look at this e-mail the sent out to their supporters today which was in many ways a call to arms when it comes to women's productive rights. look at that right there. a picture of president obama. some of the things the say in there is if the supreme court rules their way it could set the stage for employers to be able to decide which medical procedures women and other employees have access. to so this has really come down to the political issue over a woman's right to choose and a woman's right to choose what medical procedure she chooses to have. and not her employer. that's how democrats are trying to frame it, erin. >> everyone has their angle on it. mark preston, thank you. now outfront host of cnn's crossfire van jones and radio talk show host michael medved. van, let me start with you. polls like this one, registered voters choice for congress. the big story next year, right? look at this. since october, plus 7 points republicans. right? this was back in october when everyone said oh, my gosh, civil war in the gop. tea party they're dead they're gone they've lost the mid terms. now it's turned around and democrats have dropped three points. could obama care cost democrats all the gains in the house and even control of the senate? >> well, what i will say is we do not know. and i think the crazy thing now, all of us who are involved in politics, this is the most upside down, topsy-turvy turbulent environment. you go back to 2004. the republicans had the house, the senate, the white house. everybody said the democrats were dead. when you look up 2008. democrats have the house, the
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senate, the white house. we say republicans are dead. then the tea party comes back 2010. democrats are dead. obama wins 2012. republicans are dead. obama overreaches fumbles on syria, he's dead. then you've got the shutdown, the republicans are back. now that the obama care. we are not in a left wing period, we're not in a right wing period. we're in a turbulent, volatile period. anybody who says they're going to know where we're going to go in the fall is fooling themselves. we have no idea. >> and michael, should you be betting on obama care? people like you are hoping for republicans to gain ground if not control. because what if the numbers start coming in and they aren't terrible on obama care next spring in then everything's going to completely switch around again. >> well, i think van is right. we are a very divided country. but the reason that obama care makes such a difference is obama care for a younger generation of people will have the same impact, i believe, that vietnam had for my generation. i know you were too young, van. but the point about this is you can't ignore it. when people get their own
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insurance canceled -- >> that is a big statement, though. >> it is a very big statement. and people are getting mobilized. people are getting ticked off. the most striking thing about the poll that you cited which is a cnn poll, not some conservative poll, is that republicans are almost 20 points ahead among independents. and what that means is that a lot of the independents who i think lean more conservative are coming back to the republican party as long as we talk constructively. not just to block obama care, not just to get rid of it, not just to repeal it but to fix it and to replace it. and to keep some of the goodell elements that all americans really want to be there. people want to have some provision for folks with pre-existing conditions. >> the do. they just don't want to pay for it. i mean, that's the problem. >> they don't want to pay for somebody else. >> i do want to agree with my colleague. the question is who's going to get the credit for the good stuff in obama care? because there is a ton of good
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stuff. even with a broken web site, everybody watching this show if you're a woman you can't be discriminated against right now. that's obama care. if you're a young person like you said under the age of 26 you could be on your parents's plan. that's obama care. if you've got any pre-existing condition,'s marks high blood pressure like i've got, nobody can discriminate against you everybody again. that's obama care. who gets credit for the good stuff and who gets blamed for the bad stuff. can the fix it. that's the question. >> i think before we go, as you all know, baby outfront is coming and is late. so i'm a little obsessed with this. so anyway, we saw this poll. caught my attention. having daughters makes parents more likely to be a republican. and in the case of you two apparently it is true. michael you have girls. obviously you are representing from the right although you were way too peaceful both of you tonight. van boys, obviously you're on the left. do you think this is true? >> i have two girls and a boy. >> right but your first born was a girl, right? this is off a first born. >> my first one was a girl, second one a girl then we have a 21-year-old son. but yeah, look, i think that one of the things that i would like to think is that a conservative outlook is a balanced outlook.
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and when guys have girls -- >> you should tell the tea party that. >> van, what do you make conservative outlook a balanced outlook? you see the president and they're saying he's for women and republicans have this war on women. you're saying if you have daughters you're going to be a republican. >> i don't know. there's something called correlation not causation that we might want to talk about right now. but i will say that if the republicans and being conservative is a balanced outlook i hope somebody sends that memo to the tea party. because as far as i can tell they didn't get the memo yet about balance. >> the one thing, erin, that generally the more children you have the more likely you are to be a republican. and that again is correlation, not necessarily causation. china set to launch its first lunar module. are the passing america in the space race? and president obama has been working desperately to get
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tonight's money and power is china reaching for the moonlit rally? so a major milestone for china's space ambitions tonight launching its first lunar probe. officials say it's going to release a six-wheeled lunar rover. a public vote determined the name of the lunar rover. who says it's not a democracy in they're calling it u 2 which means jade rabbit.
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china's space program is trying to take on america and win. david mckenzie is outfront from beijing tonight. this morning obviously david for you. what are you hearing about this mission? >> reporter: well, it is a pretty secretive mission and definitely very significant, erin, they're launching their first lunar probe. they're going to put this buggy on the ground on the surface of the moon, they hope, sometime in december. the jade rabbit will do some investigations on the lunar surface. certainly it's a big deal for china in terms of pride and the latest move a very accelerated space race, erin? >> david, what can you tell us about whether the space program ace threat to the united states. this is obviously coming on a day where we're reporting they're putting an aircraft carrier to confront the u.s. because the u.s. flew some b 52 bombers over what china believes to be its territory. >> reporter: well, in ten short years, china's gone from putting the first astronaut out into space to this step. and the hope to put a space station and even put an astronaut on the moon by the end of the decade. they're certainly taking this
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very seriously. it's a point of national pride here in china. the chinese say it's nothing to do with any conflict, that this is a peaceful process, the want to share their technology. but u.s. defense department has repeatedly said that the need to watch the chinese space program very closely, erin. and the do believe that china's looking to flex its muscles on the world stage and also of course in outer space. erin? >> david, thank you. by the way, enjoy that sunny day. i rarely have been in beijing or seen you in beijing with glorious sunshine like that. usually a lot smoggier. so enjoy it. thanks to david. and now our sixth story outfront, iran lashes out, rejecting the united states' interpretation of the crucial nuclear deal. you meeting scratching your head, right? according to a spokeswoman for iran's foreign ministry, quote what has been released by the
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web site of the white house has a fact sheet is a one-sided interpretation of the agreed text in geneva, which is not true." which is not true? at the same time, secretary of state john kerry is going to be a full court assault to sell the deal's talking points to his own party, sending them a video outlining the deal particulars and calling them for one-on-one consultations. so what does the obama administration have to say about iran's accusation that it's lying? this deal is obviously a crucial topic in this country. and moments ago i spoke with the state department spokeswoman. >> what does rhetoric like that make you think about this deal? >> well, erin, one i would encourage anybody to go look at the actual agreement and the plan that's on our web site that's been provided that the white house has sent it out. the state department has sent it out. and anyone can read for
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themselves. the common practice as you know in the united states is providing fact sheets that are summaries of details for average people to understand them who maybe won't read through an entire plan. so i haven't seen those comments previously, but we did feel that there was a negotiation that happened and agreement that happened in good faith. and the question, of course, is implementation from here. >> and obviously that though coming from the foreign minute ministry and iran's semiofficial television responding "the deal you made allows iran to continue its activities at iraq which of
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course is a highly controversial heavy water facility, fordow and natanz. is that accurate? >> that is not accurate. this of course is a first step. there are specifics agreed to in terms of steps that iran would take in a first step related to constructions at those facilities, related to monitoring, related to halting the progress being made in terms of developing a nuclear weapon. that is what iran agreed to. and again, anybody can go to read the fact sheet and read the agreement on the white house web site, of course. >> and you know, it's interesting, because what's happening here and what you're hearing out of iran this latest that we have is we're trying to figure out what they're trying to do here with these headlines, plays into something democratic senator carl levin talked about chairman of the senate armed services committee. he weighed in on trusting iran and here's what he said. >> i love the slogan trust but verify but i've never understood it. because i think the right slogan is don't trust. i don't trust the iranians. [ applause ] >> and by the way, they don't trust us. >> jen, i simply play that because obviously now you have possibly iran saying that some facilities are not having to stop down. the deal doesn't guarantee access to the crucial military site and iran will control access to a lot of the other sites.
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so how can you verify what is promised in this deal what you have agreed to when you have this situation with inspectors? >> one thing we certainly do agree, not many things we certainly agree with senator levin on, it's not about trust. there's a long history of mistrust with the iranians, certainly in this case. that's why you have an unprecedented monitoring effort that will be put in place to make sure that iran is abiding by what they've agreed to here. and again, this is not about -- this is not an all inclusive deal here. this is a first step, which will be over the course of six months leading to a comprehensive agreement. and that's what our goal is. but let's take a step back here. and i would say this to many member of congress. this is the first time that iran
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has agreed to halt and roll back their progress toward developing a nuclear weapon. the alternative is that they would be making progress. so i think we all need to take a deep breath here. >> look, that's a totally fair point. but on this issue of inspectors, you just used the word unprecedented. obviously i've heard secretary kerry use that word as well. what does that mean though when it comes to parchin, super secret military site, the deal would form a commission with international monitors to facilitate resolution of past and present concerns. >> that's right. >> that just sounds like a lot of work are. you really going to be able to go in parchin and see what they're doing in every room or
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not? >> erin, let's remember what we're talking about here is daily access to a number of these sites, being able to evaluate whether thayer abiding by their commitments with that in mind. the international monitoring group is very important here because obviously they're going to take a close look at it. and believe me. if they are not abiding by their commitments we will be running, leading the charge for more sanctions. but we have the opportunity and the responsibility to give this a chance to succeed. >> and the bottom line then on what the foreign ministry out of iran is apparently saying tonight that what you have released, the white house has released is not true in terms of the talking points. you think you can deal with people like that, work with people like that and get the verification that you need? >> look, we never thought that -- we were never naive about the challenges here, whether it's working with iran, whether it's moving toward a comprehensive agreement, whether it's winning over our opponents. but the alternative is allowing iran to take steps toward developing a nuclear weapon. nobody wants that. it's about whether we want to take steps towards diplomacy or towards war. we choose diplomacy. >> all right. and our thanks to jen psaki. outfront next, an amazing story one man's idea allows paraplegics to stand and even walk. bnon wmanagement hasvi and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find hidden risk, and make success a reality. bny mellon wealth management.
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much more. >> they'll have one hand on the well, one hand on the piece extending towards it. that's when the ladder gave and i fell. >> it is nothing short of amazing that 51-year-old gene marian walking. he's been in a wheelchair for years paralyzed from the waist down. >> once the give you the news and you start to think about it and you start wondering what am i going to do? >> at 6'4" tall, he has always been tough. he served in the u.s. military and earned his living as a welder. when his accident took away his ability to walk, he thought the world had come to an end. >> i felt helpless. what can i do? >> more than a decade after the accident, a cutting edge idea called rewalk is giving mariano the use of his legs back. it's a 44-pound exo skeleton that uses computers, motorized joints, a battery pack and braces to help paraplegics stand up and walk again. >> i'm looking at the watch and
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he tells me it's time to stand or sit and i didn't want to press that yet. i wanted to stay here for one more minute. because it's been so many years. >> the man who invented rewalk has a story of his own. ahmidgoffer is a paraplegic. he began questioning the outdated wheelchair he was confined to. >> then i was wondering, how come a wheelchair is the only solution? i asked why people can land on the moon. >> in that moment, his idea for robotic trousers came to life. rewalk says the device is currently being used in europe, israel and inside 23 rehab centers across the united states. but it comes at a hefty price. more than $70,000.
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a price rewalk ceo larry jizinski says he hopes will fall with fda approval. >> we have done a lot of work on the level of medical benefits we see with the product. there's clearly a cost reduction with medications, and there's a great cost reduction in reduced complications. we're still gathering more data and learning really what the amounts are. but this product seems to be a product that pays for itself in just a couple of years. >> mariano says whatever the price it's worth it. the look on his son's face the first time he stood up? priceless. >> as i went up his jaw went down. and just the type of kid that -- he's not -- he always has something to say. very quick comment. he had nothing to say that day. >> piers morgan is next. [ coughs, sneezes ]
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