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how to say it in arabic or thai or something like that. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. stay tuned for "reliable sources." limbaugh, hannity, two of radio's biggest voices may soon be dropped by one of america's biggest radio broadcasters, are not. limbaugh says there's nothing to see here. >> i just want to assure you everything is cool. and as always, what's on the table for this program is growth. >> but if cumulus media does decide to drop rush and sean, and that's a very big if, is that really what liberals want id to be? which is the beginning of the end of right-wing radio. did you hear, hillary clinton has won the 2016 democratic nomination for president. i'm kidding, of course. but nbc's dramatic mini series about her life in the white house and after is coming to a tv near you, just in time for
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the next race to the white house. we'll look into whether tv is jumping the gun and prematurely anointing the next front runner. and if you thought putting the news together seemed like a boring endeavor, you have not seen "the newsroom." in its second season it has its fans and its detractors and we'll ask does this look anything like your newsroom? and speaking of news rooms, does your have a nap room, or a meditation room or a keggerator. some actually do action and we'll take you there. i'm patrick gavin, and this is "reliable sources." cumulus media is a giant in the radio industry and it has carried rush limbaugh's and shawn hannity's talk show for years. so when politico reported the network was considering dropping both hosts, the media took note. >> we're back with news from inside the right wing talk radio
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bubble. >> two of the most powerful voices of conservative talk radio may go off the air in many radio markets very soon. >> cumulus media, the second biggest broadcaster in the country, is planning to drop rush limbaugh and sean hannity from its stations by the end of the year. >> cumulus isn't commenting on the reports. in fact no one is. it still is debate about whether conservative talk radio and particularly rush limbaugh is losing the edge. joining me is mike medved, thom hartmann and michael harrison. michael harrison, let's go straight to you. there are two ways to look at this. one is that this is a big blow to conservative media if in fact rush and sean get dropped. the other way to look at this is this is simply people sorting out their negotiations in public and this is two people trying to resolve a deal and we can't read that much more into it.
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what is your take about what we're hearing about what exactly this whole debate means? >> it's clearly a radio deal. it has nothing to do with the future of conservative talk radio. it has nothing to do with the future of rush limbaugh or sean hannity. it just is a deal between two giant radio companies trying to negotiate whether they're going to continue to be in business together, politics and experienced bedfellows in radio, and they're two competing companies that also work together, clear channel and cumulus. they're just trying to come up with a deal. all of these public proclamations about rush limbaugh's ratings are down or the conservative movement is drying up and all that, is the polarization of this situation. in fact it's just a deal. they're not going to be dropped from the air. if they don't come up with a deal with cumulus, they'll be on clear channel stations or any other companies that would love to have the two biggest attractions in talk radio, rush limbaugh and sean hannity. >> thom, do you agree?
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david brock said on msnbc that this is a huge victory for progressive radio. you're in progressive radio. when you look at this, do you view the fact they might get dropped by these 40 cumulus stations as a victory for progressive radio? >> no, i agree with michael that it is just a business deal. in fact i can take it a step further. it is the further vertical integration of the radio industry. clear channel owns premiere, the syndicating company that runs rush and sean's shows. and so they're moving that onto their stations. cumulus has their own syndication company, they bought the old abc radio networks so they want to move their own talent on. if you own the talent that you have on your local radio shows, then you get to capture the network minutes, advertising avenue -- >> so why did they say this is a victory for progressive radio, is that just wishful thinking? >> no, david brock and media matters were leading the boycott limbaugh crusade, which did
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presumably some damage to the limbaugh show. i can tell you it did a lot of damage to progressive talk radio, because a lot of advertisers right across the board said just pull me out of all talk radio. so i don't know limbaugh's numbers, but i do know on our side of it that progressive radio took a hit as a consequence of that. >> michael medved, let's go to you. i'm curious to get your take on who stands to lose more on this, cumulus or clear channel? >> i have absolutely no idea. i think both companies will be fine, they're huge, successful companies. i've got to agree here with thom hartmann. the trouble that i have with this entire logic that david brock was expressing is it's not a victory for anybody if all of a sudden you have less political conversation. i want my friend, thom hartmann's show to be successful. we disagree on everything, but i think it's great when people are listening to progressive talk radio. i think it's great when people
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are listening to conservative talk radio. one thing i can assure you is in every single major market, whether they do this deal between cumulus and clear channel or not, rush and sean will be on the air. they will be on the air because they have very devoted listeners and because they fulfill a public need and because they're popular. >> right. we should note that even if they do get dropped by these 40 stations, they are still massively successful and lucrative. michael harrison, quickly to you. we are now more than a year since the sort of famous incident and rush limbaugh. there's been a lot of talk and a lot of reporting about how many advertisers are boycotting or did boycott rush limbaugh's program. more than a year out from that incident, what do you know about what kind of effect that incident had on rush limbaugh's show? >> it hurt all of talk radio because it made sponsors wary of being in anything controversial, but there has been almost a complete recovery and the future is very bright. and it's very dangerous when politics gets into the business
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of communications. we've politicized this open marketplace of ideas in the capitalistic system and it's very dangerous. everything is going to be fine. and i assure you, we're going to get past this period. >> i want to quickly go to rush limbaugh -- i want to go to what rush limbaugh has said about this. we're going to play a clip. this is what he said on his radio show on monday. >> nothing is going to change. you are going to be able to get this radio program on as many, if not more radio stations down the road than it's on now. and what you're being treated to is just a public business negotiation. >> thom hartmann, let me get your take. there is this idea that at some point rush limbaugh will retire and there's some research to indicate that his audience might be getting a bit older. where do you see rush limbaugh, his audience, his popularity, in three to five years from now? >> i think that's up to rush. he's a brilliant and talented
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guy. he does radio really, really well. >> are the trend lines going up for him or going down? >> i don't know. in general talk radio is doing well, particularly as we move into other platforms, onto the web, into tv simulcast, it is helping right across the board. so i'm guessing if he sticks around, he's going to do well. if he doesn't, there are people ready to step in. >> michael harrison, what do you think about the future and trend lines on rush limbaugh's audience? >> i think rush will be around as long as he wants to. he'll be 90 years old and still have a show. he's a brilliant broadcaster. the point we have to take out of this is when people detract talk radio, take a look at where it's coming from. it's usually coming from political circles. they try to detract the success level of the hosts with whom they disagree politically. >> you know, michael medved, i'm going to go to you on this but anybody feel free to chime in. talk about the role of the advertiser boy kouts. the internet has made it incredibly easy to galvanize a lot of people, to protest, to
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boycott, to go after sponsors who do sponsor some of these programs. it is a lot easier to get 100,000 signatures than it was 20, 30 years ago. what role has that had when you see a lot of people apologizing for fear out of losing some of these sponsors. talk about the role that the internet has had in galvanizing some of these boycotts. >> actually, i think all of the boycotts are a ridiculous idea. i've always been opposed to right wing boycotts, i've always been opposed to left wing boycotts. it is a good thing if advertisers advertise shows that allow people to engage in political talk. my message to the david brocks of this world and people who are part of the flush rush campaign, if you really want a victory for progressive talk radio, then organize people to tune into thom hartmann or al sharpton on msnbc if that's what you care about. but you see this is a basic point of freedom of speech. if you don't like what somebody else is saying, then say something different and get people to pay attention to it. this impulse that people have to
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shut somebody down because you don't like what they're saying i think is, and i use the term very advisedly, it's unamerican and inappropriate and it stinks. boy the way, it's also wildly ineffective. look at the numbers for rush and sean. >> quickly, one-word answers. thom hartmann, will they resolve this? >> yes. >> michael medved? >> will -- >> will cumulus drop rush and sean? >> probably not. >> michael harrison, what's your take? >> maybe. >> all right. we covered the gamut there. thom hartmann, michael medved, michael harrison. hillary mania continues with three things in the works. more on that when we come back. i'm tony siragusa and i'm training guys who leak a little,
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as hillary clinton prepared to leave her secretary of state post late last year, here's what she told abc's barbara walters about a 2016 presidential run. >> i've said i really don't believe that that's something i will do again. >> don't tell that to the media. between now and 2016 there is going to be intense focus on her. first, there is a hollywood movie in the works about hillary's years as a young lawyer and nbc announced that it is planning a mini series about hillary with actress company an lane in the lead role. in the nonfiction role cnn is expected to air a documentary about clinton.
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the network says its editorial side has no role in its production. joining us is marissa guthrie, senior writer for the "hollywood reporter" and here, matt lewis, cnn contributor for the "the daily caller." why don't we have a joe biden action flick? you've seen him in the aviators, right? >> joe biden is a fascinating guy. but as a conservative, i would say why not the life story of marco rubio. a great story, rags to riches kind of story. and that's really the point here. i think whether you're worried about the democratic primary or whether you're worried about media bias, which is always an issue, there does seem to be a little favoritism here. >> let's get to that real quick. is this basically an admission by a lot of folks in tv that hillary clinton is going to run? >> absolutely. >> because obviously that will make all these productions more successful, right? >> for every hook there has to be a timely media hook. that's the hook and that's the backdrop. but then i don't think hillary clinton is that fascinating.
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but her story includes bill clinton and barack obama, then it becomes quite fascinating when you tie in the fact that she is going to run. we all know she's going to run. >> marisa, you obviously cover hollywood. a lot of this suggests that politics is big business. what do you know about sort of how these projects are expected to do? we've seen hbo's "game change" in the past. is a lot of this not bias or wanting hillary to run but they want to cash in on a pretty intriguing story? >> yes, if he decides to run, she'll be all over the news. she's all over the news now as the speculation is unfolding. certainly her lunch with obama last week only fueled that. but the final chapter of her story being running for president again, a second time after two obama terms would be a really nice capper for all of these projects. the nbc one will likely be on the air before she declares, certainly before she's really in campaign mode, if she does run.
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so -- but the movie project is focusing on her career as a young lawyer and her new at that time relationship with bill clinton. so i mean both of these projects, i'm sure there will be things in them that hillary and bill clinton do not like. >> matt, let's talk about the nbc series. you know we've seen this before in the sense that there's going to be a lot of people who i think are going to say, well, this is going to be bias or they're going to try to look to see if it's favorable or not favorable. glen reynolds is already saying maybe we should start a sponsor boycott. we saw this in 2003 with cbs with the reagan mini series, which was a little controversial. so cbs canned it. i wonder does nbc run the risk of producing a bland mini series, not some sensational one as perhaps critics of this move might anticipate, because they know if they do, it will be deja vu like in 2003 when cbs had to can the reagan mini series? >> and i think there are people involved in the reagan mini
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series that are involved in this. ooin the reagan story is interesting because whether it's a hit job or a hagiography, it usually happens after the person is dead or has left office. you have somebody on the cuss of running for the most powerful in the position in the world getting flattering treatment. she's being portrayed by diane lane, pretty attractive, charismatic actress. so i think the assumption is going to be that it's going to be a hagiotography. but i'm with michael medved, no boycotts. >> marisa, do we have any idea if there are other projects in the works? 2016 has a lot of intriguing characters in the lineup so could hollywood turn out more of these if the audience comes to them? >> well, the film that's in the works does not yet have a studio attached to it, and it's a small project. it's not expected to -- i mean it's not something that's
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expected to do very well. it wouldn't be a wide release most likely. and a lot of networks are trying to be more -- they're doing more event programming. and the hillary clinton mini series for nbc was part of an announcement that included several other mini series projects. it's something that they can make a splash with promotion, make it feel like it's special, and this one has the added hook of being, you know, right on the news curve. >> we've got to wrap this up. marisa, who should play bill clinton in this movie next to diane lane. >> oh, lord. >> matt lewis, you got an idea? >> joe biden. >> there you go. >> matt lewis? >> since it's diane lane, i want bill clinton to play himself, and i'm sure she does too. >> matt lewis, marisa guthrie, thank you for joining us. ahead, the anthony weiner sexting saga. it means ratings gold for tnt and "inside edition."
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we'll discuss their coverage of the embattled new york mayoral candidate after the break. la's known definitely for its traffic, congestion, for it's smog. but there are a lot of people that do ride the bus. and now that the busses are running on natural gas, they don't throw out as much pollution to the earth. so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the environment.
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despite his recent sexting woes, anthony weiner says he's staying in that race for new york city mayor. but that's not the only side to this story. the woman at the center of the latest scandal has been giving interviews saying she had some doubts about weiner's campaign message to new york voters. >> i felt like he's saying one thing to me, saying another thing to his wife, saying another thing on the campaign trail. i don't know who the real anthony weiner is. >> and who anthony weiner is, is a topic of enormous fascination for some of the nation's juicier media outlets. earlier i spoke with mike walters and "inside edition" jim moret in los angeles. mike, we go straight to you. you guys are the masters of justin bieber and kim kardashian. why are you focusing on this ex-politician who's running for mayor in new york city, but it's kind of an unusual subject for you all? >> well, we're definitely not a political website in that sort of, you know, forum, but i would say that celebrities are, you know, the politicians are
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celebrities of washington, d.c. so we do cover pop culture and stuff that happens. weiner is a national story. also with politicians, you always get their side of it or one side of it. what we like to do, and i know, jim, you guys do the same thing, you like to get into the other side of the story. sydney leathers, the young lady in this story, is interesting. whether or not she's a victim or was she a professional. we did a story about how she had been on these websites, these sugar daddy websites years before she met weiner so was she going after him or was he -- could he be the victim? look, it's new york, it's a mayoral candidate and it's one of the biggest cities with a ton of celebrities, so i just think it was such a big national story with so many levels, with the clintons and his wife coming out, we just had to cover it. >> jim, let me ask you, ratingswise, trafficwise when you look at your coverage of the anthony weiner story compared to everything else you all do, how does it stack up? is it ratings gold for you all? >> it's not just ratings gold for us, and i think there are a
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lot of people interested, but when you look at how many people picked up. i had an exclusive interview with sydney lerathers last woke and it must have been picked up by 100 different outlets. this is, as mike said, a national story. when you're talking about the mayoral race for new york city, it's really a national story. and it's not just a salacious story about sex. this is a story about anthony weiner's credibility. whether he's been lying to people. and it really puts so much on the line. he did this himself. i've interviewed a couple of the other women that were involved in the previous scandal. and when mike talks about whether this woman is a victim, you put it in the context that she's not just one, but one of of perhaps a dozen or so, i think people are fascinated by this and they're really fascinated by anthony weiner's reaction. you know, when he's asked a question how many were there and he says, oh, you know, it's less than a dozen, what's the big deal? and then he comes out with this tape, videotape saying, you know, this isn't how new yorkers
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roll, we don't quit. it's unbelievable to see his reaction. >> you know, and jim is right, mike, this is a national story, no doubt about it. but the reality is that this guy, anthony weiner, is polling fourth now. he's certainly not the front runner. there are a lot of people who think he has no chance of winning it. so my question to you is he's in fourth place and if he drops out or decides to remove himself from new york's political scene, do you all drop the story as well or do you think for you and your audience anthony weiner is a subject that even if he drops out, even if he loses, you guys are going to continue to cover him? >> well, look, i can tell you and i'm sure jim is the exact same way, yeah, i'm sure jim is the same way but i can tell you for us, sure, if he drops out as a candidate and he's not trying to become mayor anymore, yeah, it kind of comes down a few notches on our scale. but i will tell you and i'm sure "inside edition" is working on the same stories as we are, there is other women here. when weiner did his press conference, he said there's three women.
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like in this after he already went through the scandal and resigned, the year later with sydney leathers, there's more than one woman. there's three. and the two other ones are slowly starting to make their way out, so i want to know what he said to them. i want to know exactly how many times he did this and what exactly he said. and i think our audience wants to know that too. >> jim, speaking of women, how do you all handle the approach to his wife? obviously anthony weiner is a public figure, he was an elected official. i don't think there's anybody that says he shouldn't be held to account or ask questions but there is this sensitive issue about how people should treat his wife. whether she should come under the same scrutiny anthony weiner does. when it comes to your coverage of her, do you handle that differently at all? >> well, we haven't been able to talk to her. but look, the fact is, and even sydney leathers said this, huma is the victim in this case. she was the one who was betrayed. the other two parties both knew what they were doing. and i just want to pick up on what mike said. if other women come forward, and i suspect that they will, i'm
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really curious to know what makes these women particulatick. why, after knowing anthony weiner's past, would you and could you get involved in a new relationship with him? it's not like sydney leathers is the first person to be suewayed and be in a sexting relationship. is she naive? did she have low self-esteem and was just thrilled that this political hero of hers was paying attention to her? as far as huma abedin, she has come under attack and being criticized for standing by her husband. we've seen other political wives stay out of the spotlight, specifically spitzer's wife. >> mike, real quick because we've got to wrap this up. do either one of you hear from the anthony weiner campaign or huma abedin's camp or the hillary clinton camp or anyone in d.c. in reaction to the coverage you give that story? >> no. i mean we reach out to them every time we do a story on it
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but we have not heard from his campaign at all. but i do believe with his wife, remember, she's putting herself into the redemption. i think it's fair to cover her and we've reached out to her also and gotten no response. but she put herself in that press conference with the facial expressions while he's saying it. she's in the videos with him. i think it's fair for us to cover her and to put her in the headlines, because she's put herself there. and i believe at a point hopefully we'll hear from either one of them or both of them, but it's just like hillary clinton with bill clinton, these guys, these sexual issues with politicians, bill clinton is one of the most beloved politicians in the world now after a sex scandal. i think that's why people stay on weiner and his wife and everyone keeps going behind him and backing him, so that's why. we're going to keep covering it and i think that hopefully at some point we will get a response from them. >> we've got to go. mike walters, jim moret. quickly, before we let you go, are we done? please tell me we're done seeing pictures from anthony weiner's
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cell phone? >> i don't think so. i think there's more. >> no! >> there is more. there is more. and they're coming. >> mike walters, jim moret, thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. ahead, an update on the global terror alert, and then the hbo -- hbo's "the newsroom" is back for a second season. although it's fiction, some reporters say it's too far afield. we'll ask two real-life reporters to give us a fact check. at a better time. these chevys are moving fast. i'll take that malibu. yeah excuse me, the equinox in atlantis blue is mine! i was here first, it's mine. i called about that one, it's mine. mine! mine. it's mine. it's mine. mine. mine. mine. mine. it's mine! no it's not, it's mine! better get going, it's chevy model year-end event. [ male announcer ] the chevy model year-end event. the 13s are going fast, time to get yours. current chevy truck owners can trade up to this chevy silverado all-star edition with a total value of $9,000. are you flo?
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i'm candy crowley in washington. u.s. forces are on a higher alert today because of a terrorist threat in the middle east and north africa. the u.s. has also issued a worldwide travel warning. cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr is here. hey, barbara. >> reporter: the pentagon has put forces in the region on higher alert, ready to go if trouble breaks out. three u.s. navy warships with about 1500 marines are offshore of yemen, another several hundred combat hf ready marines are in southern italy and spain. all of this comes after a series of meetings and the pentagon chair chuck hagel to position troops to be ready.
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at the same time, interpol has issued a global security alert asking its member nations to help determine if a series of massive prison escapes across the region in recent days may be linked. hundreds of prisoners, including some al qaeda members, have escaped prisons in iraq, pakistan, libya and syria. candy. >> and you've got to believe, barbara, that even if this is not connected with the current terrorist threat, it's not good because there's a lot of al qaeda prisoners, a lot of thugs. >> reporter: that's exactly right. a lot of very experienced al qaeda operatives that may, may now be back out on the street in those countries. given what is going on, may be ready to jump in and stir up an awful lot of trouble. candy. >> thanks, barbara. we'll have more on this at the top of the hour on "state of the union." up next on "reliable sources" real-life journalists grade hbo's series, "the newsroom." how much protein
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you. >> the show has had its critics. some dislike its progressive slant. others say scenes on the romney press bus are unrealistic. sore kin's treatment of its female characters has also been criticized. we'll find out how accurate the show portrays the producers, on the campaign trail and best of all off the job. juana summers and rosie gray, reporter for buzz feed politics. we're a bunch of printing people but juana we work in a tv newsroom as well. i've been at cnn all week and i've not seen an anchorman throw his blackberry at the camera. i haven't seen an anchorman get stoned and leave weird voice mails. is this show like the shows you've been around? >> it amps up the scandal. if someone were to take me on camera and show me fighting with my editor, that doesn't make for sexy television. so it takes those minute moments of a reporter getting mad and escalates into something that's watchable, particularly for
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people not in the business. >> so nobody has thrown a blackberry at you? >> not recently. >> rosie, one of your critiques is that the show sort of amplifies the competitiveness between reporters more than actually happens out in the real world. so talk a little bit about that, about how it kind of makes reporters seem a little bit more foolish than perhaps they really are. >> i think a good example of this is the scenes on the campaign trail when jim is sort of -- in the most recent episode he's trying to just really nail all these low-level staffers, basically, on romney's different policy positions. i'm all for an adversarial press, but i didn't see any of that really on the campaign trail with people trying to sort of nail down, you know, like staffers that might not have necessarily known that much. >> you know, it's interesting. so obviously in television there's a seven-second delay. on the "newsroom" there's a 17-month delay. looking at the romney campaign, here's a statement from former romney spokesman ryan williams who told "reliable sources,"
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quote, "the newsroom" portrays romney staffersville ans and the press corps as bad journalists who served as willing mouth pieces for the campaign. both representations are laughably accurate. juana, you covered the romney campaign. how does that show portray the romney campaign bus? is it accurate or totally off base? >> i think there is some truth to what ryan, i have traveled with them. a lot of those things wouldn't have happened. there's the scene where one reporter is framing another's shot. we didn't have that kind of relationship with campaign staffers. there's some elements of truth. in the first very minutes. most recent episode, there's a reporter sitting there reading off the tweets that people want him to shut up. there are those kind of characters. so there are moments of truth but it is definitely not true to life to the experiences that maybe rosie and i both had on the campaign trail. >> rosie, it's pretty clear that
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arron sorkin, that he wants reporters to be more assertive, more aggressive, not just take talking points from these presidential campaigns. is he right? having covered the 2012 campaign, do you feel as if his critique of those reporters or any political reporter, that they're not aggressive enough, is there a part of it that's actually right? >> i think there's a grain of truth to it. i think there is sort of a pact mentality on the campaign trail and people are afraid to step out of line and be really assertive and really aggressive. as with everything witness show, it's very overblown. i didn't see a lot of high drama the way that happens with jim on the campaign bus. >> you know, it's interesting, this whole idea that they're a little behind the news cycle but still covering it, as fans or detractors of the show, do you like the way it sticks to these real news events? you were actually telling me off camera that after the show you and other reporters just sit and e-mail about it and compare notes and say, oh, did this really happen or this reminds me of this. do you like the fact that it sticks to real news events or does it just get the show in trouble? >> i think that's what gets me as a reporter to watch the show.
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they had clips with herman cain and these are news events we've all been embroiled in so it's interesting to see how hollywood depicts these very real things. i guess it's a little revisionist history at the same time. >> are you going to watch sunday? >> i'll probably be watching, yes. >> we did talk to hbo and asked them to bring somebody on the show to talk about it and they declined. rosie, you've got a number of critiques about the show. if you had to give him one piece of advice and make his portrayals of newsrooms more accurate, what would it be? >> i would say try to show people actually doing their jobs and not just yelling at each other and having interoffice romances and drama. >> does nobody yell in your office at buzzfeed? >> occasionally, occasionally. >> what about politico? >> oh, you know we never yell at politico. >> thank you very much for joining us. coming up, some of the cushy amenities you'll have to see to believe. here's a hint. it involves beer.
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when you think about a typical newsroom, you may think of this seen from "citizen kane." >> i don't know how to run a newspaper. i just try to everything i can think of. >> how much are you going to tell me about deep throat? >> how much do you need to know? >> that was then, however, and, boy, have things changed. even hollywood has picked up on it. as you can see on "house of cards" from netflix. here's a scene from that show set at the offices of the fictional news organization slug line. >> we've only been in this space about three months. >> it's cool. >> not exactly "the herald" is it? >> have you been to those offices? >> yes. >> long gone are the days of
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cigarettes and fax machines, so long to funky carpet and bad lighting. some of today's newsrooms actually look like the four seasons compared to newsrooms of the past. even our refreshments have evolved. coffee, that's a no-brainer, but what about booze? the huffington post is renovating its d.c. office and it includes a yoga room, an open air breakout space and a kegerator, with not one, but two taps. according to the ceo, ariana huffington, taking care of yourself makes you more product i've, more creative and less stressed. taking the time to recharge, whether by taking a nap, doing yoga or taking time to meditate will make you a more effective and happier employee. many are going to say naps and yoga aren't going to help productivity, they'll kill it. >> napping on the job, as a reporter how does that help? you close your eyes for two seconds and you've lost a story. >> so the huffington post is standings by their nap rooms and whatnot. after all, a well rested
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journalist should be a better journalist, right? i'm not so sure about a drunk one, but we talked with some other reporters. >> i'm a dedicated mother and dedicated journalist. i wouldn't mind having like a baby-sitter service, whatever, day care in the area not far from me. >> i want a window. i want sunlight. i go 12 hours a day at the white house where i am, there are no windows, there are no doors. >> the trend may be catching on. the huffington post isn't the only news organization creating a model that combines both work and day. take the daily caller, for instance. they have got a ping pong table, popcorn machine and putting the kegerator to shame, they have a full bar. all for the sake of good journalism. i paid a visit to that bar earlier this week. >> you want a beer? >> i don't know. what's -- what's the policy on this? yeah, let's do it. why not. cheers. >> cheers. >> let's get to the real issue here. you guys are in the business of journalism. how does this affect your journalism output?
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>> i think it makes it better. >> really? people would assume it would have a negative influence on that. >> well, i think people have to handle themselves responsibly, but folks come in here, they'll have a beer if they're coming back from the white house, coming back from the hill and needs to unwind. they can play a game of ping pong, have some popcorn. it also makes people want to be at the office. tucker's philosophy is if you don't love your job and want to be here, you're not going to stick around. >> he was talking about tucker carlson who shares the same opinion as huffington post executives. so why are the cool kids at the huffington post doing this? earlier i spoke with their managing editor, amanda terkel. thanks for joining us. so walk me through how this works. you're working on a billig scoo and you decide the one thing i need to do to make this happen is to do yoga, to meditate? how does this fit into your job as a journalist in a productive way? >> the huffington post has the third metrics. success is usually money and power but we are much, much productive and much more creative if we're also focusing
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on our well-being. if you need to take a nap, if you need to go to the meditation room, if you need to grab a drink from the kegerator, it's all there. >> people don't frown upon you traditional journalists would say that's an awful way to get your work done. >> if you have a breaking news story, that's not what should you do. we did have a reporter use the room. and we had a yoga class. >> do you really want to see your colleagues in yoga pants? >> some of the colleagues. we had a small group try out yoga. i think some are going to get there. but if things are slow and i'm looking forward to the nap room when debate night and we're there late. >> i think why this is happening, it's a way to keep you at work longer. it's actually not a great way to get relaxed. it's a way to say instead of
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leaving the office and have a happy hour, take a nap in our nap room. i think they're bam -- >> i'm not staying at work any longer because of this. but it just makes it a fun place and now more large u.s. companies are starting to offer these stress reduction, meditation nesh differeninitiat. >> whatever happened to a good old fashioned treadmill and free weights? >> we have a gym. >> but you don't have a lactation room. >> and i heard cnn does. or could you use the meditation room. >> i think they all work together. you get a beer, that makes you tired, take you a nap, but then you have to go do a little joe yoga to get the brolood going a then meditation to get you focused. >> no one has used every amenity at one time, but it could happen.>> no one has used everyy at one time, but it could happen.
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>> a lot of journal ecism debts gets done at hyper speed but you're saying it's okay to take time off. >> we still work at hyper speed saying it's okay to take time off. >> we still work at hyper speedg it's okay to take time off. >> we still work at hyper speed. but it doesn't mean should you become unhealthy and not worry about yourself. i think there is a balance and that's what we're trying to achieve. >> is there any peer pressure that they say, oh, she's taking a nap, that you won't be employed in a month or anything? >> not yet. maybe we'll throw pillows at each. thank nos joining us. up next, my thumbs up and thumbs down. i think farmers care more about the land
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than probably anyone else. we've had this farm for 30 years. we raise black and red angus cattle. we also produce natural gas. that's how we make our living and that's how we can pass the land and water back to future generations. people should make up their own mind what's best for them. all i can say is it has worked well for us.
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all right. some quick thumbs up and thumbs down. thumbs up, controversy i guess? this week proved that nothing sells like controversy. that hotly debated rolling stone cover, all this outrage you caused sales to double.
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and the interview on fox news, seemingly everyone got something out of it. book sales shot up the charts. video of the interview posted on buzz feed earned millions of views. and fox had a segment that largely defended green's interview and a denounced it as the left wick media. in the end, there was a little bit here for everybody. and a thumbs up to npr host scott seem on who took to twitter to document and mourn the passing of his mother in real team, a personal glimpse into not only his life but that of his mother's. it was too much for some who thought we should put down the phone at some moments, but for others, it was moving and honest. either way, the fact is that the ship long ago left the station when it comes to putting twitter as a person al media. we're hoping it gave every a
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reminder to pick up the cell phone and actually call your parents once in a while. i hate to do this on his birthday, but thumbs down to the president. he refused to take questions from reporters eager to get his take on the latest edward snowden developments. >> thank you, everybody. thank you, every. thank you, everybody. thank you. thank you so much. >> in his defense, if you're going to turn down questions, that is about as polite as you can do about it. and it's been between week since the president said this. >> i want to let you knee ovyou the next couple of question, there will be a whole range of issues. we'll try to arrange a fuller press conference. >> we're waiting, mr. president. i don't know if it's particularly a thumbs up or thumbs down, but in the world of washington journalism, everyone is awaiting levity in our town come november.
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the newseum's exhibit of anchorm anchorman. anchorman 2, two parts pop pus, one part loveable softy, and totally hilarious. the n they gave us a sneak peek at some of the posters. that's it for "reliable sources". if you miss a program, you can now go to e tunes on mondays and check out our podcast. join us again next sunday at 11:00 a.m. eastern for another critical look at the media. join 11:00 a.m. eastern for another critical look at the media. chec. join us again next sunday at 11:00 a.m. eastern for another critical look at the media. today a suspected plot prompts a global warning to americans far from home. take care. senator lindsey graham joins us for a talk on al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, edward snowden in russia, and crisis in egypt. then house intelligence committee member adam schiff on
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whether these security warnings justify the breadth and depth of spying by the national security agency. and see you in september. congress takes a month long break, leaving nearly every important piece of business undone. the man spear heading the drive to get more democrats elected to the house, congressman steve israel, joins us. plus -- >> sit down and shut up. >> seriously, what are the chances september will be any better? our power panel is ready to sit down, but they won't shut up. and -- >> i'm going with this tight end because he's going to have my tackle. >> the national football league moves closer to a first down on equality. our interview with the woman who would be ref and what players are thinking. >> all i know is she's wearing black and white stripes and she's got the hat on. she's the one with the whistle. i've got to be really nice to her. >> i'm candy crowley, and this is "state of the union." in what's being called an unprecedented event, extraordinary precautions are on