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for the person that says i don't care about elections, i don't care about campaigning. i'd rather do the job and deal with america's problems and we don't respond to ads and bs. can we do it. thanks for watching. have a great weekend. have a great weekend. "ac 360 starts now. -- captions by vitac -- we begin with breaking news the signs point that attacks on america, the threat according to officials credible and serious. three sources telling cnn al qaeda and the a rainen pa innocence sieve, 21 american embassies and consulates scheduled to close on sunday from algeria to bangladesh. issuing a global alert for the entire month of august to americans traveling abroad. airlines are monitoring developments. this coming after a message surfaced recently online al qaeda chief calling for attacks on american interests.
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official washington is buzzing and senior state department officials briefing lawmakers on capitol hill says they are increased on communications chatter aboard. president obama has been briefed, as well and according to an official directed the national security team to protect the american people. joining me now is paul and fred townson, a member of the dhs and cia external advisory boards and dana bash and jill. jill, what are you hearing about this world-wide alert, 21 posts close in 17 countries. how credible a threat is this? >> they believe that it definitely is credible. they are taking it seriously. in fact, they say the number of countries where the embassies and consulates are being temporary shut down could increase in the length of time in which they are shut down could increase, as well. now what they are saying is in
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light of benghazi, they out of an abundance of caution are taking these steps. it refers to routine things that happen at the embassy, giving passports, et cetera but say for americans, if there is an emergency, they can get in touch with the embassy. that is not a problem. but they are also, anderson, urging americans if they are traveling to that region to register if this program, step. you can find it on their website and you can get texts and e-mail messages realtime about the threat that's out there and anything happening, country specific. >> jill, britain is closing the embassy in yemen. there may be more u.s. closings, correct? >> there could be. >> okay. >> this we're told depends on the information coming in. >> it's not typical to see so many u.s. embassies close.
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>> in 21 different countries you don't see them be critical of agree with the u.s. move. i talked two to sources that says because the americans shared with them intelligence they, too, believe is specific and credible, although not specific to location, they -- you know, foreign governments are very supportive over the steps the u.s. is taking. >> paula, video from all eye da called for attacks against americans and released one 18 hours before the ben gghazi attack. do you see any link? it brings up the possibility that al qaeda's leader had some sort of forknowledge of whatever is in the works here. it definitely does bring up that possibility we've seen in other plots him put out videos before hand, anderson. >> dana, what about in capitol hill? how serious is it being taken this. >> very seriously. sources tell me administration is doing absolutely the right
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thing to take such sweeping and extraordinary steps to protect americans, another signal a source in the room told me that the vice president himself used a previously scheduled meeting a few days ago to inform the congressional leadership and key committee chairman about the threat. and you heard jill talk about benghazi and the political backlash against the white house taking it serious enough before the deadly attack last year, i asked around to source, especially republican sources they were ready to say this was a cya. the answer i got from democrats and republicans was absolutely not. they are not over doing it again. this is real and necessary, again, that was bipartisan. >> how common is it to share intelligence with some of these country sns. >> it's very common, a. b, when you look at al qaeda and the arainen peninsula, the saudi
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helped us in the past. you can't not share this information. remember, we've also heard reports he in the last several weeks named as the new chief operations the ahead of the all eye da affiliate. what i'm told is take all this together, right, you've got the naming of the chief from al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and the video and plus the intelligence, all of this comes together in the last couple of weeks that leads them to take this extraordinary step of closing 21 embassies. >> paul, what do you make of the selection of the 21 consulates and embassies, and what does that tell you about the threat? most are in the middle east but closing as far away as bangladesh. >> that's right. the group in question here doesn't really have much of a presence in bangladesh. this brings up the possibility that different al qaeda affiliates may be coordinating here in perhaps days of violence
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potentially. >> jill, in terms of this alert for americans around the world traveling in universities and hotels, you talked about ways to keep in touch. is there anything else americans should do? >> they are saying, of course, to be very, very cautious about your surroundings but i think you would have to say getting these updates and registering your trip with the state department is another thing that you can do. the website actually is quite good. it's got a lot of links, and the most important is to get that critical time sensitive information and that's what you can do by registering. >> all right. thank you so much. fascinating stuff. paul, dana, jill, thanks very much. let us know what you think. follow me on twitter @andersoncoop @andersoncooper. billing taxpayers a bundle for in some cases patients that don't exist. the man that is in charge of the operation faces our questions live. and you'll hear from the woman that says ariel castro was a monster long before he held
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billing practices. among the scams billing for phony patients for treatments never provided or treatments patients didn't need. in one case, patients were dead. a rehab racket series is now headline news across california. the san francisco chronicle, the l.a. times, the sacramento bee picking up on it. new mexico the seri until the series aired, officials turned down interviews and literally ran from cameras. first, the reporting that has a lot of people tonight. drew griffin tonight keeping them honest. he shouldn't be in california's drug rehab business. you seem to be center of fraud allegations here. >> no, no, no, no. >> reporter: he's banned from billing medicaid since 2002 but still bills the state of california. ajind us accused of wrong practices at his clinic.
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mr. ajindu. >> yes. who are you? >> reporter: wait a minute, your former employee say you're billing for the county services you're not providing, sir. and then there is this man, alexander, ferdman organizing a crime ring in texas. it hasn't stopped him from coming to california, setting up a drug rehab clinic and billing taxpayers. even though, felons are barred from running drug med cal centers. >> how can a guy like you run a drug rehab in california. this is a major insurance car crash scheme in texas. >> i was convicted, but it's not what it seems. >> reporter: in the last two fiscal years, taxpayers spent nearly $186 million supposedly treating drug and alcohol abuse patients in california. our investigation with the center for investigative
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reporting found half of that money, or about $94 million has gone to clinics that have shown questionable billing practices or signs of fraud. joy jaffers former drug medical supper visor says she complained to the state for years about all the obvious fraud. >> we found billing records for people in jail. one person dead. people who said they didn't need this kind of treatment. >> uh-huh. >> clinics closed on a certain day, billing for that certain day. >> uh-huh. >> none of this surprises you? >> not at all. we found all of those things. >> reporter: for more than a month now, cnn has been asking for an explanation from the state of california, and for more than a month, we've gotten nowhere. >> i believe the interview was declined. >> reporter: can i ask from you why? >> that wasn't my decision.
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>> reporter: state health officials in one sacramento building after another refused to be questioned, including toby douglas who oversees drug medical. will you make sure to provide a response why this wide-spread fraud is allowed to continue? after calling the state's secretary of health and humane services dianna duly and getting no for an answer we decided to get a response in person. drew grif within cnn. >> how do you do? >> reporter: we've been trying to reach you and talk about the wide-spread fraud in the drug rehab business and we're told that neither you nor the program director nor anybody inspect state of california will talk to us about it. in an uncomfortable moment, the secretary at first refused to speak. secretary? do you know alex ferdman, a convicted felon who runs a clinic and billing thetaf
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california for several years despite the fact that there have become plants registered with the department about him? he's convicted of a major insurance fraud in the state of texas, but for somehow was able to get certified, and has been billing. i'm just wondering if there is anybody in the state of california concerned about this fraud. then finally answer add question. >> the state of california takes fraud very seriously and there are many investigations that are underway. the allegations, all allegations are given full and fair consideration and you've caught me running because i am late for a meeting that i'm chairing. >> reporter: i wonder if you would do one thing and ask toby douglas to sit down with us and talk to us -- >> if you want to give us a little bit of time. >> reporter: we've been giving you about a couple months. >> we have a budget that we're just completing and have many priorities on our time. information has been provided.
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answers have been provided. we have a very -- >> reporter: i understand. >> we have a very extensive fraud and investigation unit in medical that is one of the best in the country. >> reporter: two questions -- >> that's all i have to say. >> reporter: are you concerned that there is massive fraud because that's what we're finding out and two number, as secretary of health could you have toby douglas sit down and talk about our specific questions? >> excuse me, i am -- >> reporter: but that is hardly the end of the story. >> would you get security for me? >> reporter: our confrontational exchange with california's secretary of health and human services may in fact have been the trigger for a major state-wide crack down. one month later, nearly to the day, the state sent out this news release, 16 drug rehab centers are under investigation and temporary suspended and just this week, california announced that figure has jumped to 108 rehab centers.
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>> drew joins me with toby douglas department of healthcare services. apriest, mr. douglas, you being with us. in an editorial today it's not enough to stop payments to problem clinicclinics, who at c level was responsible for years of lack of oversight? can you answer that question? who was responsible for lack of oversight? >> anderson, thank you for having me on tonight. i can't talk about the past -- >> why not? >> what i want to tell you is that this past year the governor and legislature transferred authority of this program to the department of healthcare services. once we received authority we started top to bottom review, audits, put field investigators on the ground and what we've
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found is appalling -- >> mr. douglas -- >> you didn't just get born last year. this thing for the last two years, according to our reporting you paid $94 million to clinics that showed signs of questionable billing or fraud. you say you've been investigating this for a long time. you've been throwing money away during this time, more than half a billion-dollar has been spent over the past six years. you can't talk about the past. can you not answer the question who was responsible for years of lack of oversight? you must have studied this. >> again, anderson, the sleg slay tour and governor brown moved the program directly responsible and accountable to me -- >> so you have no idea what happened in the past? you have no idea who is responsible? >> what we -- what my focus is on anderson is make as you were i root out all the fraud that we have all investigators, all resources to root out the fraud -- >> how many clinics have you suspended in the year you've
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been in office before the latest suspensions we've been reporting? how many in that year of investigation? >> what i can tell you is that we've suspended 38 clinics of which are 108 different locations -- >> you just done that. you said you've been investigating this for a long time. you don't have to wait -- i assume the investigation is not over. so you've announced this -- >> all this time -- >> for a year you've been investigating. have you not shut down any in that year? >> i can't give you the numbers on -- right now -- >> so you can't name one clinic that you've shut down in the year -- >> no, these are open investigations anderson and our job is to work with the department of justice and focus on rooting out the fraud -- >> right, but have you rooted out any fraud in the year-long that you've been -- you say you've been investigating -- >> we have suspended 38 -- >> right, this week, i get it. [ overlapping speakers ] >> in that year of investigating, can you name one
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person, one of the felons running one of these clinics that drew has talked to, can you name one person, one clinic you've actually shut down or stopped paying? >> again, the focus -- you know, again, our focus is rooting out this fraud -- >> right -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> drew, do you have a question? >> i do. mr. douglas, you know, as well as i do, that the audits and investigations branch of your very department, department of healthcare services has been getting at these fraud allegations for five years, not for the past one year but for five years. there were meetings pointing out this fraud. we've heard from the l.a. county health director, dr. jonathan fielding who said he's been very frustrated in the past over state certification and the time it has taken the state to investigate and take action from these bad actors. now, you've been in senior leadership of the department of healthcare services since 2005.
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what i think, anderson is asking and the whole state of california and the federal taxpayers want to know is there has been evidence of this fraud right under your nose for years and only now it seems, even if you say in the past year we've began investigating, only now is the state going to do something about it. the question is why and who is responsible for overlooking all this fraud? >> again, focus now is that now this program is completely under the control of the department of healthcare services. i'm accountable for rooting out this fraud and that's what i'm focused on is putting investigators out there, recertifying all providers, a thousand providers and we'll work on it until we reroot the fraud in the program. >> and you've been the chief deputy director since 2009, the director of healthcare services since 2011, why would the public have any faith that you are now going to be able to tackle a problem, which hasn't been tackled since at least, what,
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2008? again, this program, anderson, was in another department that is now the legislature -- >> a department under the department of healthcare services. >> no, it was a separate department that did not report to the department of healthcare services -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> and you have no idea what occurred in the last six years? you have no idea? you have not a clue in the world -- >> again, anderson -- >> who could be responsible for this? >> my focus -- >> dude, dude, in ten years i can tell you stuff that happened at cnn ten years before that. i can name names of people who worked here. you can't give me any name? you're saying oh, well, we joined these two companies together. timewarner and aol joined together and we still had to come to work and work every day. your boss when drew had to chase her down, your boss, her excuse was we've been working on a new budget so we're busy. now you're saying actually we've been investigating this all
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along but you can't name anybody whose actually been named by your investigation until just now. all of a sudden, you've been able to come up with all these names doesn't that at least -- you don't get that looks really shady? >> again, we have been doing, since we've taken this we've been assessing this program top to bottom and we will focus continuously working to root out fraud within this program. >> anderson, i just want to remind you what we're hearing from this staff, this fraud has been reported to healthcare services. they have an audits and investigation staff, supposedly, that was having meetings for years and the problems were being overlooked. that's what our report says. and that has been verified now by the l.a. county health director who says he's been very frustrated with the state not taking action on this. so now we have the same people who have basically been in
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charge and in oversight capacity telling us that they will clean it up. i hope that is the case. i hope that is very much the case, mr. douglas. >> well, again, drew, we have taken -- as we've reported, 38 clinics have already been suspended in 108 different locations. we're recertifying 1,000 providers. we'll continue at this and continue to root out the fraud in this program until it gets to the same integrity of the programs that we administer in the med-cale program. >> i appreciate you being on tonight and i know your boss didn't want to talk and i appreciate you. you have one talking point and answer every time by saying again, verifies you're giving the same answer over and over again. i don't understand your boss said and you've said you couldn't talk before in the many requests that drew has made to talk to you, you couldn't talk before because of an on going investigation. the fact that you're talking noup, does that mean the investigation is over?
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>> no -- >> right. >> these investigations -- >> continue. >> will continue on and we'll work with the department of justice until we take all these providers -- >> great. >> to the extent possible -- >> so why, why is it okay to talk now, even though the investigation is still going on, but over the last many weeks that drew has tried to get an interview, you couldn't talk because of on going investigation and now you can talk even though there is on going investigation. >> there is an on going investigation and i want to make sure, anderson, i'm here and accountable and i am going to fix this program. >> all right. well, we'll continue to follow it mr. douglas. drew, do you have anything else? >> no, i'll look forward to the followups, mr. douglas, and hopefully we can see where your investigations bare fruit and see if indeed the felons running clinics will be weeded out and people falsely billing will be weeded out as well. >> mr. douglas appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. tell me what you think.
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talk to me on twitter about this. if you have a tip for drew on this or another story, let him know at just ahead, ariel castro's former sister in law responds to what he said about his sister in sentencing. she has a message. will george zimmerman face civil rights charges for the death of trayvon martin. how difficult that case may be to prove. what trayvon martin's parents were doing this week in their quest for charges. 3w4r5 p uses 89% less energy. and costs 77% less. it's called hp moonshot. and it's giving the internet the room it needs to grow. this going to be big. it's time to build a better enterprise. together. an impressive epa estimated 34 mpg highway...
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. hey, welcome back. michelle knight showed how strong she is when she stood feet from ariel castro in court yesterday and spoke truth to lies. her words made a big impression on people, no doubt about it. today she did something else remarkable. she made a surprise visit to the house and just across the street she thanked the neighbor who gave shelter to amanda berry after she escaped. what ariel castro said, it was shocking and off the charts, twisted. hard to wrap your mind around it. 24 hours later there is still a lot to unpack. help said he didn't rape them. hef said the sex was consensual. he said there was a lot of harmony in that house. he said he's not a monster and
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doesn't have a violent bone in his body but his brazen fantasy about his past didn't end there. here is what he said about his former common law wife, the mother of four of his children. >> i never had a record until i met my children's mother. my son was on there the other day saying how abusive i was but i was never abusive until i met her. and he failed to say that at the end before she passed away, that them two weren't even talking. so what i'm trying to say is what she's saying that i was a wife beater, that is wrong because this happened because i couldn't get her to quiet down. i would continuously tell her the children are right there, would you please, she would respond with i don't care if the children are there. she would just keep going and if
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the situation would escalate until the point where she would put her hands on me and that's how i reacted by putting my hands on her. >> unbelievablunbelievable. she died last year. i talked to her sister and she joins me again tonight. good to have you here. when you heard what ariel castro said about your sister yesterday. what did you think? >> i was infur rated, all those lies he's saying in that courtroom. it hurt. he beat my sister. he stomped on her head. he kicked her in the stomach. repeatedly. all the time in front of her children. he beat my nephew, anthony all the time, and he's saying he never did that. look at the records. >> and he seems to be -- as he was doing a lot yesterday, justifying his behavior saying, you know, that it was your sister's fault. i want to play part of the hearing yesterday when the judge
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addressed ariel castro's behavior. >> you said your wife would irritate you, she wouldn't stop talking and you would respond. my understanding from the record the is she suffered a breaken nose twice, she had broken teeth and otherwise was abused but they were never followed through as a conviction. and that's unfortunate. >> i think a lot of the people who watched him speak yesterday really and experts we talked to said look, this guy is a psychopath, that he, you know, he doesn't have emotions like everybody else. he is a true, true psychopath. did you always feel that way about him? did you always feel he was a monster? >> in the very beginning, very beginning, the beginning of her relationship he didn't seem that way. but throughout her relationship he started as soon as my nephew was born. >> and you blame him for your sister's death. >> oh, yes, yes. all my family blames him for my
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sister's death. he put her six feet under. >> when we spoke in may, you told me that you hoped ariel castro would rot in jail. what went through your mind yesterday when you heard the judge tell him he would spend the rest of his life in jail? >> i was happy. i was excited. i was thrilled. he's going to see what hell is like now. >> i was stunned in the testimony he clearly seems to be watching media coverage. he was talking about the three women who survived the ordeal in his house, survived the abuse for years, talking about recent appearances they made in the media. if he happens to be seeing this, is there anything you would want to say to him? >> i want to say aerial you need to rot in jail. i'm glad you're rotting in jail. you're going to -- you're going to see what hell is like. words can't even explain what i'm feeling right now and i really want to tell him.
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it's just words can't even say. >> well, aleeta i'm glad there is justice in this, some justice and i appreciate you being on tonight. thank you. >> thank you. trayvon martin's parents meeting with justice department prosecutors continuing the investigation into the killing of their son. will there be civil rights charges and what does the akid l mean for that? that's next. the fda finally says where the tainted salad that made people sick in iowa and nebraska came from and the popular chain restaurants where it ended up. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004.
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trayvon martin's parents are recordly getting updates on whether there will be federal self rights charges for george zimmerman killing their son. his parents met with prosecutors to talk about the on going investigation according to the miami harold. some civil rights leaders
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believe it had to do with race. he was found not guilty in martin's killing. it will be a challenge but not unprecedented. randi kaye reports. >> reporter: eric holder made it clear all along for any federal charges against george zimmerman, the bar is high. >> for federal hate crime we have to prove the highest standard in the law, something that was reckless, negligent to meet that standard we have to show there was specific intent to do the crime with the requisiteneither prosecutors nor defense made race the reason but they call it a hate crime. they say zimmerman racially profiled martin, something zimmerman and his family denied. >> you look on a jury without a black and without a man, certainly not a jury of trayvon's peers, the department of justice must intervene and take tca level.
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>> we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. >> reporter: in response to the verdict and calls for action, the justice department released this statement, it reads in part, that the department of justice will continue to evaluate the evidence generated during the federal investigation. as well as the evidence and testimony from the state trial. federal prosecutors will then determine if trayvon martin's civil rights were violated and the federal prosecution of george zimmerman is appropriate. if zimmerman is charged with violating trayvon martin's civil rights, it wouldn't be the first time a failed criminal case gave way to a federal sieve rights case. remember, rodney king? after the four los angeles police officers caught beating him on camera were acquitted, the case moved to federal court where two of the four officers were found guilty of violating king's civil rights. they were each sentenced to 30 months in prison. it was a similar story in new orleans after a hand full of officers were cleared in a shooting on the bridge. in the aftermath of katrina in
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2005, the officers opened fire on a family, killing a 17-year-old. when local prosecutors couldn't deliver a conviction, the civil rights division of the u.s. department of justice and the fbi began an investigation. in 2011 a jury in new orleans federal court convicted five police officers on charges related to covering up the investigation and deprivation of civil rights. still, regardless of the outcome of those two high-profile cases, george zimmerman's attorney continues to insist this case was never about race. >> my fear is thatnected that cn will be a negative to civil rights, absolutely untrue. >> reporter: maybe so but that seems is for the united states department of justice to decide. >> joining me now, criminal
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defense attorney danny sovalas and sunnyhostin. i want to read the actual federal statute that's involved here. it says this statute makes it unlawful to cause bodily injury or attempting to do so with fire, firearm or other dangerous weapon when the crime was commented because of the actual or prosteved race, color religion or national origin of any person. how difficult would this be to prove? >> when you started out, you said the original case was race. race was not an element of the original case. they avoided race and that's why any civil rights case or doj case will be exceedingly difficult. why? because at the criminal trial the state failed to prove any evil intent. so the department of justice would now have to prove not only that evil intent but further, it was motivated by a racial animug
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evil intent was never proven at the criminal trial. so the federal government would have the additional burden of proving that intent plus the evil motive and on top of that prove connection to interstate commerce or something else that gives it that federal next sustained. that's why it's a very high burden. the federal government does not like to bring cases and lose them and that's why most common day tors agree it's not likely they are very motivated to bring this case. >> sunny, do you agree with that? the state's attorney said race was not a factor in the trial? >> no, i don't agree with that. i think danny is way off base, anderson. the bottom line is the state case has no bearing, no bearing whatsoever on a federal case. the federal investigation has been on going. it started in march 2012. there has been in determination and we know the investigation is continuing. so to suggest somehow that whatever happened in state court has some sort of bearing on the federal investigation or any
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sort of federal crime is just really way off base. >> sunny, let me ask you, though, would a federal investigation turn up different evidence than the state investigation did? >> absolutely. i mean, we're talking about, you know, the federal burro of investigation and the resources the federal government has to bear. they have been out and meeting with witnesses over again, and they may have found even new witnesses, other information about perhaps george zimmerman, whatever racial problems he may have. we don't know what they uncovered. we don't know where it's going. i think there is a lot to be said by the fact that the government did meet with trayvon martin's family because prosecutors often times do keep victim's families in the loop. sometimes they interview those families, get additional information from the family, and they do go over potential charges and so -- >> but. >> i think when we know now they
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are meeting with this family, it says something. >> danny, we know before the trial, the state trial, the fbi looked into this and found no evidence zimmerman is a racist. doesn't that tell you something? >> it tells me -- hold up, sunny. >> that's -- >> what evidence do you think the federal government, what evidence do you think the federal government is reviewing? any new evidence? maybe. >> absolutely. >> they are reviewing evidence from the trial court and have to review additionally the racially motivated evidence. they are reviewing additional things but have to prove that racial motive. of course state court decisions are not binding on the federal government, but they have to prove the racial problem. sunny, tell me at the state court level where will that jump on that? where is it? >> again, i love a challenge, danny. and i love a challenge. >> you said that's not accurate. i'm a big believe near accuracy.
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how is that not accurate? >> my understanding, anderson, is the fbi started the investigation in march 2012 and did interview some of the sanford police department investigators and one of the investigatiors said they didn't believe that race was a part of this. that does not mean the fbi came to that conclusion. >> okay. >> so we've been hearing about the fbi making that conclusion, that's inaccurate. >> we'll end it there. sunny, do you have a sense, timeline how long they might come to -- before they make a decision? >> you know, every federal investigation is different. i've led federal investigations, of course, having been a federal prosecutor and there is no science to it or definitive timeline. it has been going on for a year. you do have the state trial but it may be on going for a little while longer. >> appreciate it. sunny hostin, danny have a great weekend. just ahead, they spent 69
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days under ground. who is to blame for the collapse that almost killed them. that's coming up.
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let's get you caught up quickly on some other stories we're following. susan hendrix has the 360 news and bulletin. the tainted sal last mix blamed for outbreaks in iowa and nebraska came from taylor farms in mexico and eaten at oliver garden and red lobster restaurants. they don't believe it was sold in the u.s. grocery stores. the defense rested in the whitey bulger trial. a widow of a victim called him a coward. jurors were not in the room at the time. an army official says at least 55 soldiers have been suspended from their duties as sexual assault counselors, recruiters and drill instructors. according to the official, the suspension stems from minor offenses like drinking alcohol to sexual assaults and child abuse. a 360 follow, prosecutors in
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chile say there is not enough evidence to file criminal charges in the 2010 mine collapse that trapped 33 men under ground for 69 days. they have closed the three-year investigation. all 33 miners were rescued. two of the men tell cnn they plan to appeal the prosecutor's decision. >> susan, thanks very much. "the ridiculist" is next. american express credit card, every purchase earns you 2% cash back, which is deposited in your fidelity account. is that it? actually... there's no annual fee and no limits on rewards. and with the fidelity cash management account debit card, you get reimbursed for all atm fees. is that it? oh, this guy, too. turn more of the money you spend into money you invest. it's everyday reinvesting for your personal economy.
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time now for "the ridiculist." we have the basic, everyday zombies on the loose in denver on the 5 k race. the idea of spending a weekend running a 5 k isn't scary enough on it's own. they have balloons, life balloons the zombies try to pop along the way signifying the runners are dead, although they keep running. it's a simple of terrifying concept. >> supposed to be the zombie
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apocalyp apocalypse. >> sure, what does zombie apocalypse without an after party? it got out of hand in denver and not the zombies. a woman that played a zombie got pummeled by a runner. >> it was not fun at all. i had a large guy tackle me over a boulder and left me there, scrapes bruises. i wasn't planning on bleeding my blood that day. >> paramedics say another zombie had her nose broken after a guy in a banana costume punched her in the face. we won't show you the picture because we don't know if it's the guy that punched her and we're in the in the business of banana slander. here is a picture to give doyou sense of what it looked like. the artist was tom forman. the founders of the zombie runs say the goal is for nobody to
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get hurt, but you know what, runners can be scary and i guess zombies can be, too. >> sometimes humans are aggressive and sometimes zombies are too aggressive. >> is a 12-year-old really running the race? i'm not surprised. when you get humans and zombies together, things can get intense as anyone who seen "the walking dead" is aware. >> that was a good episode. remember, that was the one the little goal see girl got shot at the end. i find myself rooting for the zombies there, do you? the human char acters are anowing. the zombies are more fun if they are creepy looking. that's me as a zombie. you can do it on amc's website,
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dead yourself. i'm off track. it's coming to other cities so agree, zombies and mortals and bananas alike can get along and run as one on the redick lust. at 10:00 p.m. another edition of at 10:00 p.m. another edition of "360. -- captions by vitac -- tonight, dangers from the deep. up close and personal with some of the world's most terrifying predators, sharks. >> the attack begins long before the bite happens. >> snieks. >> this, my friend, oh my goodness. >> oh my god. >> is one of the largest snakes in captivity. >> wow. >> i'd ask for help but i know i won't get it. >> no, no, no. >> sting ways, how is this for a set of teeth. man eating gators. >> i'm not touching anything. >> no? >> you're in charge. >> jeff brings them here. how many people are keeping them -- >> a lot o