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hi there. i'm brooke baldwin. we begin with breaking news this afternoon because this has been quite a day. it has been a day of emotion, anger, tears and straight up survival. it has been nearly three months since amanda berry pushed her way through the front door of that home in cleveland. >> i've been kidnapped. and i've been missing for ten years. and i'm here, i'm free now! >> and this was their prison. this was the home on seymour avenue. showing what it was like for these young women and a little girl inside this home. where amanda berry, where gina dejesus and michelle knight spent nearly a decade kidnapped, locked up in the upstairs bedroom using 99 feet of chain. they were tortured, starved,
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raped. and this gun, this gun you see here, used to intimidate these women and keep them living in fear day in and day out. just moments ago at ariel astro's sentencing hearing, we all watched as one of these victims, michelle knight, who was impregnated by castro multiple times and beaten and starved until she miscarried, she had the strength to come face to face with her captor for the very first time since her escape. here is her response in its entirety. >> my name is michelle knight. and i would like to tell you what this has been like for me. i missed my son every day. wondering if i was ever going to see him again. he was only 2 1/2 years old when i was tooken.
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i look within my heart, and i see my son. i cried every night. i was so alone. i worried about what would happen to me and the other girls every day. days never got shorter. days turned into nights. nights turned into days. years turned into eternity. i knew nobody cared about me. he told me that my family didn't care. even on holidays. christmas was the most traumatic day because i never got to spend it with my son. nobody should ever have to go through what i went through or anybody else, not even the worstest enemy.
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gina was my teammate. she never let me fall, i never let her fall. she nursed me back to health when i was dying from his abuse. my friendship with her is the only thing that was good out of this situation. we said we will some day make it out alive. and we did. ariel astro, i remember all the times that you came home talking about what everybody else did wrong. and act like you wasn't doing the same thing. you said, at least i didn't kill you. but you took 11 years of my life away. and i have got it back. i spent 11 years in hell. now your hell is just beginning. i will overcome all this that
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happened. but you will face hell for eternity. from this moment on, i will not let you define me. or affect who i am. you will live -- i will live on. you will die a little every day. as you think about the 11 years and atrocities you inflicted on us. what does god think of you hypocritically going to church every sunday, coming home to torture us? the death penalty would be so much easier. you don't deserve that. you deserve to spend life in prison. i could forgive you, but i'll never forget. with the guidance of god, i will prevail and help others that suffered at the hands of others. writing this statement gave me
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the strength to be a stronger woman. and know that there's good -- there's more good than evil. i know that there's a lot of people going through hard times. but we need to reach out a hand and hold them. and let them know that they're being heard. after 11 years, i am finally being heard. and it's liberating. thank you all. i love you. god bless you. >> thank you, ms. knight. >> incredible. michelle knight, small in stature, tremendous in strength, in that courtroom speaking. and she watched on as ariel castro took his turn a little later. told the courtroom he's not a monster. we will not be playing his entire rambling statement for you. but coming up, we will play just
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a piece of this outrageous response in which he blames his victims. but first i want to go straight to pamela brown in cleveland. pamela, my goodness. we were there when the story first broke in cleveland. here we are now for the sentencing hearing. when i think of michelle knight, because she was the first of the three to be plucked off those streets, she suffered the longest, the most severe abuse according to police, and here she was, pretty poignant moment today. >> reporter: there's really no words to sum it up, brooke. it was incredibly emotionally charged and powerful. you could hear a pin drop in that courtroom when michelle knight got up there and faced her captor head on. she exhibited tremendous strength and courage. she said his name. it was very clear that she directed her statement toward him, saying that basically she did go through hell and back, but he stole 11 years of her life. but now he's going to hell and bit by bit will lose part of his life and be there in prison for
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the rest of his life. she made a very strong, powerful statement. and ended by saying that she now has a voice and it's liberating. we've heard, we've been reporting that she was going to be the one of the three to make an impact statement. it's especially worth pointing out as you mentioned there, brooke, that she did endure the worst abuse over the past 11 years of her time in captivity. as we've been learning, ariel castro killed her unborn baby and starved her and punched her in the stomach. we've also learned hearing from the doctor earlier that she was played the role of nurse, pediatrician, the protector of gina dejesus. so this is a woman with incredible strength and we all saw that for ourselves today. of course, it was incredibly powerful when we heard from ariel castro himself. and when he turned around to michelle knight to apologize and she stood there and didn't blink an eye. it was just really amazing to see that. >> i don't know if it was a full
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apology. because he also said, you know, michelle, haven't seen much of her and no one's really missed you as he's turning around, since she went missing. we're going to get to ariel castro, trust me, here in just a minute. pamela brown, thank you so much. we heard from also family members of gina dejesus. also amanda berry. you know, at one point ariel castro broke down. at another, he seemed irritated. even denying torturing these young women despite their statements, despite statements from doctors, police. as i mentioned, we'll get to that rambling address here in just a moment. i want to talk more about -- let's call her a survivor. let's talk about survivor michelle knight. and really her defiant statement today in court. let me bring in monica lindstrom, attorney and former prosecutor with me. also midwin charles, and carol lieberman. forensic psychologist. i have a lot of questions for you. the psychology of all of this. first, carol, you see michelle knight. i hate to use the word closure.
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but how does her sheer physical presence in this courtroom, feet from this -- let's call him what he is. he's a monster. feet from this man. how does that help in her healing process? >> her statement was incredibly poignant. it really, you know, what she said at the end, now i am finally heard, is incredibly important. it was so well crafted, what she said. but you know what i found interesting is that typically impact statements are things that are designed to give -- bring more punishment to the defendant. now in this -- and so, for example, her saying, you know, how she's -- it was horrible but she's recovered and look at me now really didn't do that. but it's interesting. because his sentence was already pretty much feta compli. her statement took back the power from him.
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that was the most important part. >> midwin, let me begin with you. we knew. we knew about this plea deal last friday. we knew the sentence would be life in prison plus 1,000 years. what's the point of such a lengthy hearing? >> well, such a lengthy hearing is great. because what it does is it puts all this information on the record. we now have detail upon detail with respect to the level of the crime. we know that this crime was severe in the sense where it lasted 11 years for some of these victims. so the beauty of sentencing is you have all of this information out in the public. the public is now aware of the level of evil and dysfunction. and it serves a function so that when he is sentenced, the sentence meets and warrants the crime. in other words, they match. >> monica, i mean, i kept -- i watched the whole thing on this live router in the newsroom. and just watching the judge at the very end, have you ever seen -- it took minutes. i don't know how many minutes. i wonder if someone was running
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the clock. going through the 937 counts this man has pleaded guilty to. >> brooke, what he has to do, it's still a criminal proceeding. he still needs to go through every single count and the statute and explain what the sentence is for that count. even though the prosecution and the defense have both agreed to a plea agreement, the judge has to do certain things. like making sure that it's voluntary. making sure that it's appropriate, it's proportionate to other crimes in that jurisdiction. and he has to put each count with the sentence on the record. so at times it seemed very monotonous and boring. but the judge had to do that. >> let me just go back. this was a moment very early on this morning in the courtroom. this was the first responder, this police officer. little did she know what she would find in this home on seymour avenue in cleveland. this was her describing seeing michelle knight for the very first time. watch. >> i did remember looking at gina. it took me a second to really realize it was her. she was a lot thinner and pale compared to the pictures you've
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seen for the last ten years of her where she was a little bit heavier, long hair. she had real short hair and she was real thin and pale. but you could see the resemblance. you knew it was her. but it took just, you know, that extra second to get a look. michelle was so tiny, i thought she was a little girl. until i put her down and got a look at her and realized she was -- she was a grown woman. and it took us a few minutes to figure out that, yes, she was also in the system as a missing person. >> carol, i just wanted to ask you about that. really, i've had a couple of people send me notes as we're all watching this. this woman is quite small. yet she played this tremendous role, it seems like, over the course of the decade of helping, you know, birth amanda berry's child. threatened with her own life if this child didn't live. she was like a doctor. she was like a mother. just your reaction to that. >> yes. it's particularly astounding because she started out with having a lot of problems of her own before she was captured.
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of course, that's what made her prey. she looked like she would be vulnerable. she looked like someone that he could overpower. it is amazing that she has come out as the speaker for all three of them. >> it is. ladies, stand by. i have a lot more for all of you. because coming up next, we will listen to ariel castro and part of this rambling, tearful statement to the judge. at one point he blames the victims. and the fbi. stay right here. >> what i'm trying to get at, people are trying to paint me as a monster, and i'm not a monster. i'm sick. i'm beth...
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back to our special coverage of the kidnapping case in clooe cleveland. you have just heard from the survivors and their families. moments after they spoke in court ariel castro himself stood up, rambled through a bit about his childhood, music career, life before the abductions. but then, minutes in, this man addressed these women, each by name, and put the blame on them. as we said, we are not playing the whole thing. here's just a portion.
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>> i would take them to church. come home and be normal like a normal family. these accusations that i would come home and beat her, beat them, they're totally wrong, your honor. because, like i said, you know, i am not a violent person. i know what i did is wrong, but i am not a violent person. i simply kept them there without them being able to leave. i know when i picked up the second victim, which was gina, i don't understand how i -- because i was driven by sex. no, i did not know who she was. i saw her walking, but i did not know she was related to him. the dejesus family. because i know her dad.
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we went to school together. we didn't see much of each other in school. but i know him from school. amanda, she got into my vehicle without even knowing who it was. i don't blame -- i'm not putting the fault on her, but i'm just saying, trying to make up a point across. i am not a violent predator, a monster, i'm not a monster. i'm a normal person. i am just sick. i have an addiction. just like an alcoholic has an addiction. alcoholics cannot control their addiction. i couldn't control my addiction, your honor. but most of the sex that went on
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in that house, practically all of it, was consensual. these allegations about being forceful on them, that is totally wrong. because there was times that they would even ask me for sex. many times. and i learned that these girls were not virgins from their testimony to me. they had multiple partners before me. all three of them. finally i'd like to apologize to the victims. amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight. i am truly sorry for what happened. to this day, i'm trying to answer questions. i don't know why. amanda had everything going on
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for herself. i had a child at home. my musical talent. i had everything going on, your honor. i had a good history of working, providing. i just hope they can find it in their hearts to forgive me. >> hmm. a lot to talk about here. monica lindstrom, attorney and former prosecutor. midwin charles, criminal defense attorney. and carol lieberman, forensic psychiatrist. welcome back. wow. where to even begin. carol, okay. i guess my first question is, jotting down a bunch of notes as i was watching him, he basically takes, you know, ten plus minutes sitting there in court. talks about his music career. talks about his daughter. says he's not a monster, he's just sick. something, like, eight minutes in, he finally says, "i'm
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sorry." and denies a heck of a lot in between. what was your reaction? >> well, you know, to the extent that he believes what he said and isn't just saying it to try to make a better impression on the court as far as the lenie y leniency, you know, he says he's not violent. but obviously this is a man who does have a sex addiction, sexual problems. when you have a sex addiction, you don't have to find three women and tie them up in your house for ten years. you know, you may go out to bars and find women various ways and have sex, you know. manipulating women into it sometimes. but this -- what he did, even if he didn't beat them, which is not likely, it's hard to believe that, still what he did is violent enough. >> let me hit pause. by the way, according to these women, according to police and everything they've suffered, yes, he did. but pause. there is a press conference happening right now given by the prosecutor here in this case in cleveland. let's just dip in real quickly
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and take a listen. >> properly classified. these women outlasted him. they survived him. we are all in admiration of them for what they did and how they withstood from day-to-day and survived from day-to-day and outwitted this guy to the point where they could finally break free and be rescued, free themselves as they did. you heard from them and a representative. we will always be inspired. the law enforcement was dedicated to find these women. they never gave up. they looked and they searched, and no one was -- other than the family, of course, was more relieved or happy than these individual law enforcement officers. i want to thank the law enforcement officers for their -- for their faith and
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their willingness to continue. i want to give my heartfelt thanks to the cleveland police, represented today here by chief calvin williams. chief mcgrath is in another meeting, emergency matter. the second partner here is fbi. the fbi here has been tremendous in all aspects of this case. they work with the cleveland police and the sheriff's office and bci from start to finish. and i want to thank the agent in charge, special agent in charge, steve anthony of the fbi, representing a tremendous group. not just here in cleveland, but the fbi agents who came in from washington and agents from different parts of the country to handle different aspects from
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the scientific end to the working with the victims or the interviews. handling the interviews of this criminal. and the people in the behavioral science unit. of course, the sheriff. we've got a great sheriff here. the sheriff and his representatives are here. you can see them in uniform and in person. this is a great sheriff's unit. a great detective unit. they -- their help has been instrumental all the way through. i want to give special thanks to the individual cleveland police officers and fbi agents and sheriffs who were working on this case continually for over a decade. who were emotionally moved that night when this was found and are still moved by this and inspired by these ladies who outwitted this -- this rapist, murderer. >> the prosecutor, again, just
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hearing him after this, you know, multiple hour long sentencing hearing for ariel castro. just basically saying thank you. thank you to police. thank you to the fbi. thank you, judge, for this entire process. this has been -- these kidnappings have really just plagued the city of cleveland for more than a decade. finally to have not closure, but the end, you know, putting this man away for the rest of his life, is obviously huge for these three young women and one little girl. coming up next, you will hear one detective describe how castro lured his victims into that house of horrors, coming up.
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all right. moments ago we just played you just a little bit of what ariel castro said speaking to this court in cleveland. monica lindstrom, midwin charles rejoining me. just to you two legal ladies, monica, beginning with you, just curious. when you see a defendant typically in court at the very end giving some kind of statement, how often does he or she sound apologetic, ramble, look back at victims' families? was what we saw today typical or atypical? >> it was both typical and atypical. it was atypical because we had
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someone that was such a heinous crime actually sounding like he knew what he was talking about. and he wasn't delusional or insane. at least not legally. so i find that very interesting. there was no evidence and none of his words showed that he didn't understand what was going on. he was trying to make excuses. but he knew what was going on. >> midwin? >> well, what i find that is typical only from the perspective of criminal defendants often cannot believe that they are in trouble. that they have been caught. or that they've done anything wrong. many of them oftentimes are delusional. so in that regard, i am not surprised by his actions. but i think all of us looking at this can just say, oh, my goodness. this really is evil. there is no other way to describe what this man has done. >> you just shake your head. that's saying it politely. midwin and monica, thank you both very much. a detective with cleveland sex crimes unit gave stunning details about how castro lured michelle knight into what would
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be her prison for more than a decade. >> she was walking in attempt to find a social worker that's in charge of her son. because she wanted to speak with him. she was lost and she was in a store. she was starting to ask people for directions. at which time ariel castro approached her and said he knew where she was looking for and offered to help her. michelle knight knew ariel astro because she's friends with his daughter, emily castro. so she accepted the ride. >> did michelle relate to you what took place after she got in ariel castro's car? >> yes. they began driving. and they arrived at ariel castro's home. he asked her if she wanted to come inside to get a puppy for her son. so she agreed to go in to pick out a puppy for her son. once inside the home, she did not see a puppy.
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she did see a dog. but there were no puppies. at this time, she is physically restrained by ariel castro with an extension cord. she's left that way for several hours. ariel castro returns. he takes her down to the basement where she's physically restrained with a chain. plastic ties are put on her wrists. and a motorcycle helmet is placed on her head. it is at this time she is sexually assaulted. michelle knight was left alone, physically restrained in the dark basement overnight. during this interview, michelle knight described a pattern of being repeatedly sexually, physically and emotionally abused by ariel castro during her entire time of captivity. >> during this interview you're learning about the initial abduction as well as the crimes that were committed against her throughout her captivity?
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>> that's correct. >> michelle knight relayed she had been pregnant on several occasions in the house. she knew this because she felt the same way that she was when she was pregnant with her son. michelle relayed that ariel castro terminated her pregnancies. this was done by starving her, feeding her rotten food, kicking and punching her in the stomach, jumping up and down on her in the stomach and forcing her to perform physical exercises. >> the result of that torture? >> it resulted in the termination of her pregnancies. >> did she also relate to you that he kicked her down the stairs in an effort to terminate those pregnancies? >> yes, she did. >> also today out of cleveland for the very first time, we are seeing photos from inside that home. including the basement. look at this. where castro held these three women. special coverage continues in just a moment. ♪ [ male announcer ] you wait all year for summer. ♪ this summer was definitely worth the wait. ♪
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bottom of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. back to your breaking news
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coverage. special coverage of the castro sentencing hearing in cleveland. castro, a convicted kidnapper and rapist struck a plea deal, pleading guilty last week to 937 counts including aggravated murder and kidnapping. we have told you how castro held these three young women captive for more than a decade. but now for the first time, we're seeing what it was like. chilling new pictures of the objects castro used to keep these women captive. chains, a helmet, a pole, an alarm. all shown in court just a short time ago. it was an fbi agent who sat there walking through the courtroom, some of these photos. >> that's a chain. it's in the room that amanda -- i'm sorry. gina dejesus and michelle knight shared. >> 10x, what does this photo depict? >> that is a hole through the
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wall. i believe there were photos on the side of gina and michelle's room through theirs, running a power cord that's plugged in in the other room and the chain. >> now, for that small side room, the 7x11 room with the window nailed shut, was there any attempt to provide for ventilation in that small space? >> there was a small cutout in the ceiling and a box fan in the attic. >> so the actual plaster was cut away, an opening made, and some electrical service providing a fan? >> correct. >> next photo, please. showing you state's 10y, to you recognize what's shown there? >> yes. >> what is it? >> chains. locks. >> do you know generally where
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those were found? >> those were found in the upstairs bedrooms. on the left side of the frame is a support pole. that's a pole that we've come to understand that the women were restrained to at various points. i know that to be a letter written by ariel castro. >> we will reference that as state's exhibit 12. now, does mr. castro talk about his conduct in that document? >> he does. >> does he describe himself through his own choice of words as i am a sexual predator? >> yes. >> in his own words. i am a sexual predator. so writes ariel castro. much more on this coming up, including reaction from the local community.
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secret location after russia's government has now granted him one year of temporary asylum. the white house spokesman says the u.s. is, and i'm quoting, extremely disappointed with russia's decision. then we saw this from wikileaks on twitter. we would like to thank the russian people and all those others who have helped to protect mr. snowden. we have won the battle. now the war. phil black is tracking this story for us in moscow. phil, did russia give the united states any advance notice, any kind of courtesy call before snowden slipped away from the airport? >> reporter: the short answer is no, brooke. the state department says they received no advanced warning of this whatsoever. they're still seeking confirmation with the russian government. having said that, it will not have come as a complete surprise to them either. throughout this long saga, u.s. officials have said that russia has clearly been sending the signals, laying the groundwork, to eventually announce this decision they would be giving snowden some form of asylum.
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the language they've been using, the help they've been giving him, they said it was all pretty clear. now they have confirmation of really what they've been trying to avoid. what they've really been pressuring russia not to do, to give him this protection. what it essentially means is that it really rules out in the near to medium term any chance of getting snowden back to the united states to face those charges that the u.s. administration so clearly wants him to face, brooke. >> phil black, thank you so much, phil. coming up next, baseball star alex rodriguez reportedly negotiating a deal for a suspension and not a lifetime ban for using banned substances. will he ever play the game of baseball again? and what leverage does a-rod have? that story in two minutes.
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almost 25 years after the pete rose scandal, another living ledgend of baseball coul face really the game's version of the death penalty. yep. a-rod. the new york yankees' alex rodriguez whose name appeared at least 16 times in the handwritten records of a florida steroid dealer. 16 times. not just that, but a-rod reportedly tried to purchase the dealer's records to blunt a vast doping probe of himself and other players. so with me now from new york, cnn's rachel nichols. rachel, we now hear a-rod's p m people are talking to baseball's people. why? >> when this first came to light, a-rod and his representatives insisted there would be no deal. but there were people in the a-rod camp who felt that baseball just wasn't going to be able to make the suspension stick. first, remember, no positive test. second of all, baseball had been
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open about the fact that they had actually paid some of the witnesses in their investigation against rodriguez. however, in the past few days, baseball has been laying out its case against rodriguez to the a-rod camp. and guess what? the case, stronger than that camp thought. yes, they have paid for some witness testimony. but that's backed up by reportedly voluminous amounts of records, physical evidence against a-rod, and also not a coincidence, brooke, those two words lifetime ban leaked to the media about a week ago, because that is putting enormous pressure on a-rod all of the sudden. you mentioned pete rose. we know that doesn't just deal with your playing time. it deals with how you're treated as a retired player. it's total excommunication from the game. now all the sudden with maybe a stronger case than the camp originally thought and this threat of this lifetime ban, that's enough to bring a-rod at least to the bargaining table and see what they might be able to work out. >> but then what about the timing of all of this? because we heard about ryan
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braun a couple of weeks ago. why have baseball sort of scattered the punishments? >> the idea initially was to do this all at the same time. but with the braun situation when they started laying out what was going on and what they had against ryan braun, his representatives and braun said, you know what? let's work out a deal. kind of a plea bargain if you will. baseball initially was threatening maybe a 100-game suspension. by going down to 65 and having him say i won't appeal, i'm going to admit i had wrong doing, they basically reached this agreement at 65 games. baseball frankly wanted to get that out and done as soon as possible before he changed his mind. also that 65 games could happen before the end of the season. so he could start with a clean slate next season. that was attractive to him. with a-rod and with some of these other players, they're talking about longer suspensions and they're not in as much of a rush to get it done by a certain date. really also they're working out with these players whether they can strike that plea bargain, strike that deal. because if they don't come to some sort of an agreement and they just issue the suspension,
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they can certainly do that, but then the player has the right to appeal, and it becomes more messy. it's a gamble if they're going to be able to keep their case. for everybody involved, much like with law enforcement, a plea bargain is preferable. they're just seeing if they can work that out. >> fans just have to wait to see who's willing to bargain and who is not. rachel nichols, cnn sports. thank you. coming up next, breaking news out of the pentagon. we are just now hearing the u.s. will be closing a number of embassies around the world this weekend. why? that's coming up. she's always been able to brighten your day. it's just her way. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved
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got some breaking news coming into us here at cnn. the state department has now issued a security warning for certain embassies around the world. barbara starr at the pentagon with this. barbara, what are you learning? >> brooke, u.s. marines who always guard embassies around the world will be extra cautious one can only expect since the state department made this announcement a little while ago. that this sunday, august 4th, a number of u.s. embassies and consulates around the world will be closed. i want to read you what the state department said. it said, pardon me, it said the department has been apprised of information that out of an abundance of caution and care for our employees and others who may be visiting our installation indicates we should institute these precautionary steps. they are not yet saying what embassies, what consulates, in what countries.
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they are not saying precisely why. people have noted sunday is coming towards the end of ramadan, the holy month in the islamic calendar. but they are warning that some embassies and consulates around the world will be closed. americans traveling overseas on vacation certainly could logon, look at the embassy web page in the country they're visiting and find out the status of the embassy this sunday. brooke? >> again, we don't really know -- it begins sunday, august 4th. we don't know specifics as far as embassies. do we know certain parts of the world or we don't even know that? >> i've got to tell you, they're not saying. again, looking at the web page of whatever embassy might interest you, usually they do post when they're going to be closed for the day. and that'll be something for traveling americans to look for. >> barbara starr, thank you very much. coming up, a day of emotion, anger, tears in this cleveland
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courtroom. this was one of the survivors, michelle knight, speaking with her impact statement there. you don't want to miss this. ariel castro in this courtroom as well. what both had to say, coming up. [ male announcer ] for diarrhea, you take kaopectate. but for all these symptoms, you also take kaopectate. new kaopectate caplets -- soothing relief for all those symptoms. kaopectate. one and done.
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-- captions by vitac -- our two. i'm brooke baldwin. to top of the hour. today we watched as ariel castro was sentenced to life plus 1,000 years without parole. as we watched, we saw this young woman, a survivor, michelle knight. here she is in the same courtroom, face to face with her captor of ten plus years. the man who kept her for really what has amounted to a third of her life. she was the first to be captured. michelle knight spent a decade in this home on cleveland, seymour avenue. for the first time we're seeing beyond the walls, inside, from castro's sentencing hearing, showing just what it was like inside this prison. where knight, gina dejesus and amanda berry were locked up, held in the upstairs bedroom
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using 99 feet of chain. they were tortured. they were starved. they were physically abused. they were raped. this gun here used to intimidate these women. keep them living in fear. moments ago at castro's sentencing hearing michelle knight, who was impregnated by castro multiple times, was starved, beaten until she miscarried, she stood strong and addressed her captor for the first time since her escape. here is her response in its entirety. >> my name is michelle knight. and i would like to tell you what this has been like for me. i missed my son every day. i wondered if i was ever going to see him again. he was only 2 1/2 years old when i was taken.
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i look within my heart, and i see my son. i cried every night. i was so alone. i worried about what would happen to me and the other girls every day. days never got shorter. days turned into nights. nights turned into days. years turned into eternity. i knew nobody cared about me. he told me that my family didn't care. even on holidays. christmas was the most traumatic day. because i never got to spend it with my son. nobody should ever have to go through what i went through. or anybody else. not even the worstest enemy. gina was my teammate. she never let me fall, i never
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let her fall. she nursed me back to health when i was dying from his abuse. my friendship with her is the only thing that was good out of this situation. we said we would some day make it out alive, and we did. ariel castro, i remember all the times that you came home talking about what everybody else did wrong. and act like you wasn't doing the same thing. you said, at least i didn't kill no one. but you took 11 years of my life away. and i have got it back. i spent 11 years in hell. now your hell is just beginning. i will overcome all this that happened. but you will face hell for
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eternity. from this moment on, i will not let you define me. or affect who i am. you will live -- i will live on. you will die a little every day. as you think about the 11 years and atrocities you inflicted on us. what does god think of you hypocritically going to church every sunday, coming home to torture us. death penalty would be so much easier. you don't deserve that. you deserve to spend life in prison. i can forgive you, but i'll never forget. with the guidance of god, i will prevail and help others that suffered at the hands of others. writing this statement gave me the strength to be a stronger
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woman. and know that there's good -- there's more good than evil. i know that there's a lot of people going through hard times. but we need to reach out a hand and hold them. and let them know that they're being heard. after 11 years, i am finally being heard, and it's liberating. thank you all. i love you. god bless you. >> thank you, ms. knight. >> pretty incredible moment there in the courtroom. you and i watched this play out on television. but you know who was sitting in there and watched this with his own eyes? our correspondent, martin savidge who has just stepped out of this courtroom. martin, what in the world was it like to be sitting there and witnessing it in person? >> reporter: you know, i have to tell you, brooke, that i think in a lot of ways we went into this courtroom thinking it was going to be the crimes of castro that were going to be remembered most. but the beauty of this horror
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that comes out is the fact that it is the words of his victims that anybody in that courtroom will remember more so. because what you saw was their ability to go from being victims to triumph over whatever ariel castro did. they truly are the victors in all of this, but they went through hell in the process. i knew a lot of the law enforcement in there. i used to work in this town, grew up in this town. i know the attorneys. know the law enforcement. many of them are retired, came out of retirement just to be in this courtroom to watch what happened because they had tried to look for these girls for so many years. i have not often been moved to watch them being moved, but they were. deeply moved. very small in stature. but her presence, michelle knight, filled that courtroom with her courage. >> martin, something else i noticed because i was glued to this all day long. watching, you could see ariel castro as he was addressing the courtroom during his rambling address. at one point did you notice he turned around.
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it looked like he was even addressing michelle knight, looking toward her, looking to the family spokespeople of gina dejesus and amanda berry. did you notice that? >> it was interesting. when michelle knight walked into the courtroom and everybody knew who she was and the moment she arrived. even ariel castro, you could see he was like leaning over backwards. he was literally trying to do whatever he could to get a glimpse of her. >> ugh. >> he's also surrounded by very big guards. they jumped up immediately and like linebackers set up a picket fence around him and blocked the view. you know what? she paid no attention to him. she would occasionally look in his direction. but you could tell that by the look in her eyes, that man meant nothing to her anymore. it was just as if he really wasn't there. she had incredible strength in the courtroom. and everybody felt it, i have to say. >> like she said, his hell is just beginning. martin savidge, thank you so much for us in cleveland. let's talk about this a little bit more.
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jane velez-mitchell, host of hln's jane velez-mitchell. also jeff toobin, and danny savalas. there's a lot to talk about. first i want to go, jeff toobin, let's begin with you. quick visceral reaction to everything you witnessed today in court. >> well, you know, i had a different reaction than you did, brooke. i could barely watch it. i found it really so unpleasant, so repulsive. particularly, of course, castro's remarks. which went on and on. and the self-pity. and the narcissism. and the just evil that came out of that guy. i really, you know, this is my job. i had to sit here and listen. but it was -- it was one of the more repellant things i've ever seen in a courtroom. >> jane, what did you think? >> i agree. it was stomach churning and toxic. this is a case study. it's an opportunity to look at the criminal mind and see how the criminal mind operates. the hallmarks are defiance,
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denial, self-pity, rationalization, justification, lack of remorse and also blaming the victim. that's what we see time and time again. and that's what ariel castro tried to do today. turn around and blame these women for their own victimization and say the most outrageous thing. well, they wanted sex. they asked me for sex. that, i thought, was just -- it was obscene. beyond comprehension. >> it made my skin crawl. i'm not saying i enjoyed it. i watched every bit of it maybe just because i covered it from when the whole thing broke in may. danny, your thoughts. >> frankly, i've never even seen a sentencing involving this much time. to a lot of people that may seem arbitrary. 1,000 years. when you start adding up the mandatory min ums and just the regular guidelines for all of these counts, this is actually not that unbelievable a sentence. i mean, he certainly agreed to take the death penalty off the table. but 1,000 years if you
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consecutive each of these sentences, in other words they don't run at the same time, is probably in the area of reason. that's how awful what he did was. and it absolutely -- i want to echo what jane said. it is surprising the level of self-pity and self-esteem that the criminal mind often has. you see it. you have a rare opportunity to see it in this sentencing hearing. in just the brief words, the one opportunity this man had, his words were not remorse, but -- but telling us about how these sex acts were consensual. shocking. >> i think you all pinned it, too, with the narcissism. watching him, i'm feverishly taking notes through this whole entire rambling address. it takes him eight minutes to even get to some semblance of apology. at first he goes through each of these young women. finally he gets to michelle knight. that's when martin and i were just talking. he actually sits there in his orange prison jump suit, turns around to her and says this. watch.
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>> she's happy. i haven't seen much of michelle -- michelle since day one, no one missed her. >> jane, i kept thinking when i heard that, that from day one, no one has missed you. he's shackled in court. this guy is still trying to manipulate this young woman. >> it's contempt. it's misogyny. contempt for women. he's trying to blame her for what he did to her. this as we're seeing the evidence of the chains. this guy reconfigured his house to turn it into a dungeon. he kept these women in a dungeon, tortured them, impregnated her repeatedly then forced miscarriages. and he's all in complete denial about this, having the nerve to say that they lived in harmony was the word he used. >> danny, i'm just curious. with all the many a courtroom you've been in, many defendant
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you have seen, when they get their chance to speak, is this typical behavior? the rambling, the defensive, the mars cyst narcissistic, looking around, is this typical or not? >> there's one part i thought you see fairly often in courtrooms. it was the moment where the judge asked if he's pleading guilty. and he wants to get in -- this i see a lot. he wants to get in that angle where he says i don't agree. i don't believe any of this happened. i'm only pleading guilty to spare the victims the agony of a trial. a lot of times you see in court defendants say, hey, i'm only pleading guilty, i don't agree to these facts. but the court must be mindful to get those facts on the record. because that's really not pleading guilty. the judge admonished him. he said you pled guilty to this. this is what you pled to. there's no wiggling out of it now. >> jeff toobin, i want to circle back to you. you said you found this whole thing repugnant. what is the point of such a long, lengthy hearing? we knew about the plea deal last week. we knew what the sentencing would be. what's the point of this?
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>> well, you know, there really wasn't a legal need for this to go on for that long. certainly under ohio law and most states, the victims are allowed to speak and the defendant is allowed to speak at a sentencing. but the proof that the government put on wasn't entirely necessary. i think the government was in part just trying to show the world what really went on here. also establishing a factual basis so that if castro down the line claims he wants to withdraw his plea, that would make it that much more difficult. but if i can just raise one point that i know has come up a lot on twitter. why -- why isn't he being executed? why are we paying to support him in prison? this deal -- >> this is cheaper, isn't it? >> much cheaper. litigation would cost millions and millions of dollars. it would go on for a decade, 15 years, at least. now litigation is over. he will disappear into the prison system. the government saved millions of dollars by -- by concluding this
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deal. spared the victims more testifying. i think this is a very good deal. >> no making money. no writing books for this main. jane, quickly. >> i want to say i thought it was a very important process. if anybody out there thinks they can commit a heinous crime and simply plead guilty and they won't be humiliated before the world stage, this is proof that the crimes will be outlined. they were outlined in detail. i thought that was very important. so that he couldn't maintain his dignity. he was humiliated before the world. >> and now for the rest of his life. hln's jane velez-mitchell, jeff toobin, danny cevallos, thank you very much. much more to come on today's emotional, shocking hearing in cleveland. the city absolutely torn apart by this horrendous crime. a monster living among them, and they had no idea what was happening beyond these walls on this home on seymour avenue. we have new video today as city workers take those final steps before tearing castro's house
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down. coming up next, we'll talk to cleveland city councilman about how the community can now finally move forward. dt
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we continue cnn's special coverage of ariel castro's sentencing today. a frantic 911 call kick started this entire story. helped set these three abused were tortured women on the road to freedom. let me take you back. here is the voice of amanda berry. >> i've been kidnapped, and i've been missing for ten years, and i'm here, i'm free now! >> amanda berry had been missing for about ten years. today a cleveland police officer described these incredible moments when she realized berry was not only the only victim here in this home, she found gina dejesus and michelle knight. >> took me a second to really realize it was her. she was a lot thinner and pale compared to the pictures you've seen for the last ten years of her, where she was a little heavier, long hair. she had real short hair and she was real thin and pale. but you could see the resemblance. you knew it was her. but it took just, you know, that extra second to get a look. michelle looked so tiny, i
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thought she was a little girl. until i put her down and got a look at her and realized she was -- she was a grown woman. >> there were three grown women and a little girl in that house. here is cleveland city councilman brian cummins. nice to see you again. i was in cleveland for the happy story. the freedom of these three young women in may. i was struck by just how big this story, how much it shook cleveland, clearly, for years and years. how missing posters were still on telephone poles. just talk to me about the significance of this day. how huge is this for your city? >> it's absolutely huge. as you mentioned, a decade of vigils and prayers and community efforts and efforts of law enforcement agencies. it's absolutely huge. >> who have you been in contact with? i know, you know, hearing the impact statements from this family members representing these young women today, they're pleading for privacy, especially amanda. she has this little girl.
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her little girl has no idea the br brevity of this story. who have you been talking to? >> my role from may 6th onward has primarily been the community. we've done a lot of referrals to some of the witnesses on the street, et cetera, to mental health specialists. i've had primary contact with the attorneys for the survivors as well as the communications people and the cadray of professionals that have put up pro bono services to ensure really their future. that's including the courage from the established and kind of in the background of making sure they're going to be taken care of for the future. >> we're starting to see these pictures, the beginning of the end of this home on seymour avenue. you and i stood on the same street back in may. to know part of this plea deal, this home is coming down. how will that help cleveland? how will that help this neighborhood move forward? >> well, we know from somewhat -- not similar experiences, but some traumatic events in the past within the
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city, it's really important to really remove this horrible symbol of just abominable brutality. decade long. for the people -- imagine people living on the street that actually own property on the street. this is so important to take down the structure and to really develop with the survivors' wishes taken into consideration and the community to really understand what it's going to take over the next several years to put this behind us. it's going to be difficult. >> brian cummins, cleveland city council. thank you so much for joining us again. we appreciate it. we will have much more on today's sentencing hearing coming up in about ten minutes. we'll take a closer look at michelle knight's emotional moment in court as she confronted her abductor there, speaking to the judge. we'll ask a psychologist about just the strength it took for her to do this today. first, breaking news out of the pentagon. a major announcement, in fact.
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breaking news here on cnn. drone strikes in pakistan may soon be coming to an end. our pentagon correspondent barbara starr is live with more on this. barbara, this is a huge, huge deal. this is pakistan specific. >> very much so, brooke. very specific. a fascinating piece of u.s. intelligence disclosed by secretary of state john kerry in an interview with pakistani television a short time ago. according to the state department, kerry has now said that u.s. drone strikes in pakistan will be coming to an end. these u.s. drone strikes, brooke, have been carried out for years by the cia. not talked about by the cia, but widely understood around the world to have been cia drone strikes. why are they coming to an end? well, i mean, the fact is, all these years after 9/11, there are not a lot of al qaeda targets left to strike in
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pakistan. now, they haven't gotten the top leader, al zawahri. but they have by all accounts used these drone strikes to kill perhaps hundreds of al qaeda operatives over the last many years. so if the ci aira ends its dron strikes which are a real bone of controversy with the pakistani people, where does that leave things? not a lot of targets in pakistan, but certainly al qaeda on the rise in a number of other areas. in yemen, across north africa, al qaeda affiliates in libya after the strike at the u.s. compound in benghazi. al qaeda affiliates operating right now in syria. the al qaeda threat, very different than the original threat those drone strikes went after. >> they're now working on the timeline to end the strikes in pakistan. >> exactly. >> barbara starr, thank you very much. coming up, want to highlight a survivor. a woman who showed incredible strength today.
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michelle knight. we saw her stand up in this cleveland courtroom. she was inspirational. she got emotional in the beginning. quite powerful, the words that she shared. all the while, the man, the monster who tortured her for more than a decade, was feet away. plus, just as ariel castro lured his victims, results of an undercover test that shows just how easy it can be for some predators to lure young children. don't miss this. you'll never see weekday lunch the same again! it's red lobster's rlunch. seven selections made for your lunch break, like shrimp tacos and grilled shrimp salad with soup. all just $7.99. come in today for rlunch and sea food differently. folks have suffered from frequent heartburn. but getting heartburn and then treating day after day is a thing of the past. block the acid with prilosec otc, and don't get heartburn in the first place. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. ♪
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bottom of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. thanks for being with me today as we're watching cnn's special coverage of the ariel castro sentencing hearing in cleveland. to a story that will shock parents out there. pay close attention. because all of this relates to how this convicted kidnapper, this convicted rapist, ariel castro ensnared one of these young victims. the survivor, really, who you're looking at now. do you know what he did? he used the puppy trick on this young woman more than ten years ago. promised her a puppy to give to her son. >> they began driving. they arrived at ariel castro's home. he asked her if she wanted to come inside to get a puppy for her son. so she agreed to go in to pick out a puppy for her son. once inside the home, she did not see a puppy. she did see a dog. but there were no puppies. >> kyra phillips of our sister
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network hln's "raising america." welcome. i know. it makes your skin crawl. >> i can't believe the timing. i can't believe we heard that in court and i've been working on this for a number of months. >> you and your producer, you go under cover. what exactly did you do? >> the oldest trick in the book. he had a puppy. we tested 20 different kids. we went to the park four different times. he rolls in with his dog. he's my would be predator. he approaches the kids. a lot of kids did the right thing. they bolted back to mom. mom, that guy wanted me to go walk his dog, wanted me to go to the car, wanted me to do this, that. other kids shut him right down. they were all interested in the puppy. but there were a lot of kids that did the right thing. however, when you see here, there are a lot of kids that did not. >> okay. let's watch. >> you know what? i need to go give him some water. y'all want to come with me and help me feed him and give him some water. >> yes. i have some water here. >> right in front of my face. >> it happened right in front of your face. >> do you want to feed him a treat? >> yeah. >> did you think it was going to be that easy. >> no. not at all.
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>> pied piper. >> they're still going. they're going all the way to the parking lot. >> they didn't ask if they could go or nothing zblaktly. >> i'm going to put him in here. feed him in here. >> it was so easy. i could have all six of them right now in my truck going god knows where. >> what did he look like to you. >> a nice guy that takes care of dogs. >> they could have just took you off and i would have never saw you no more. then what? >> what do you do next time someone comes up to you that you don't know. >> i tell mom. >> there we go. >> for these moms, the conversation about predators is just starting. but for another mom, she couldn't even talk about our test. >> you're not scared of a dog, are you? >> so devastated by what you're about to see, she asked us to conceal their identities. >> i got a toy in there. i got some food in there. you got him? you got a good grip on him?
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okay. >> is that their cage? >> look at that. look at that cage. could you reach that raccoon in there? i can't get it. >> mom's warnings forgotten. >> the dogs are standing in your way. there you go. can you crawl -- just like a dog. he's like, what are you doing? get out of my house. >> a child now vulnerable to abduction. terrifying proof that the talk doesn't go far enough. >> i'm just a guy faking it out here for tv. if i'm a real sex predator, i've got them in my truck, oh, my god. >> yeah. >> terrifying. >> families need to practice for that moment when a predator comes. >> so the mom was so distraught seeing her little one climb in that cage. >> it was awful. i actually felt awful. because i watched her reaction. i talked to her for days afterwards. she couldn't sleep and i couldn't sleep because she couldn't sleep. even as a mom, i look at -- even when i look at that with you and i've seen it 5 million times, my
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heart just sinks. >> you're emotional looking in your eyes. >> i guess i realized you can't just talk about it. you have to test your kids. you have to put them in real life situations. we could have gone on and on and on doing this. drive up to kids. hey, you want to jump in the car? can you help me find directions? it was unbelievable how trusting kids were. another thing too, brooke, they've got to learn self-defense moves. >> kids. >> we have a wonderful expert on our special tomorrow, noon eastern, who's actually going to show specific moves you can practice that work. >> hln tomorrow, noon eastern. "raising america." kyra phillips, thank you very much. scary little bit. it is called "the predator test." tomorrow. coming up next, back to the strength of this young woman, the strength of michelle knight. the woman abused and tortured for nearly 11 years. confronts the man who held her captive. coming up next, we'll talk to a psychologist who explains how this hearing really can be part of a recovery process for her. and the two others. [ male announcer ] don't miss red lobster's four course seafood feast.
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today in a cleveland courtroom we heard the sentence. we watched this hearing. ariel castro getting life plus 1,000 years. and we watched one of his young victims, michelle knight, really just pour her heart out to this court. we'll have much more on that in a minute. first i just want to take you back to cleveland where it all began. i was there in may when the whole story broke that they were free. i actually walked to the three exact spots where these unsuspecting girls crossed paths with a sexual monster. >> here in cleveland, this is 10 106 street and lorraine avenue. this is the last time anyone saw michelle knight. the year was 2002. she was just 21 years old. fast forward one year. six blocks away, right here on lorraine avenue, amanda berry had just finished her evening shift here at work. this was the eve of her 17th birthday.
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and she was last seen walking along this street in her burger king uniform. and then exactly one year later, 14-year-old gina dejesus is plucked off of the same street here. lorraine avenue. where michelle and amanda were taken. we've just come to this corner and just found this. i want to show you. underneath all this is a sign that says "where is gina?" this is possibly one of the original missing posters. down to the details. gina dejesus was last seen wearing a white jacket, sky blue sweater, blue jeans and a cream shirt. the details of her disappearance down to this very corner. and the reward that was offered. finally, look at this. a picture of her as a baby. this handwritten note. this is my baby. happy birthday, gina. love, mom. today now that we know how the story has ended, celebratory balloons and a sign down here. thank you, god. gina is free.
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>> it's incredible. it was incredible just walking there and seeing how he plucked them one after another, different years, all basically within, like, four blocks of one another. then they suffered 11 years in hell. kidnapped, specifically michelle knight here, kidnapped at 20. addressing her captor, ariel castro, today in court. saying it's your turn now. your hell is just beginning. here she was. >> spent 11 years in hell. now your hell is just beginning. i will overcome all this that happened. but you will face hell for eternity. from this moment on, i will not let you define me. or affect who i am. you will live -- i will live on. you will die a little every day. as you think about the 11 years and atrocities you inflicted on
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us. what does god think of you hypocritically going to church every sunday, coming home to torture us. the death penalty would be so much easier. you don't deserve that. you deserve to spend life in prison. >> carol lieberman, forensic psychiatrist, joins me live from los angeles. carol, i mean, this young woman spent basically a third of her life as a prisoner in this home. it's been, what, three months since she's been free? how does one summon the strength that we witnessed to be able to speak like that? >> it's amazing. i mean, the only thing that can explain it besides that hopefully she's been getting a lot of therapy since she was found is the fact that somewhere in the beginnings of her life, there was love coming from someone. that gave her this sense of strength in herself. you know, she was -- she was -- she protected some of the other girls. she took the worst beatings.
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literally and emotionally. and yet she's able to come out and be so articulate. so there was something in her, you know, background that gave her that strength. also what she's doing here is wresting the power away from her captor. he had the power over her for a decade. by her saying these words, she's taking the power back for herself. now, whether she believes that 100%, you know, or she's still growing into that is another thing. but she's certainly on the right path. >> we focused on michelle knight because we saw her, you know, physically in court today. but i want to focus on the other two survivors, gina dejesus and also amanda berry. they weren't in court. they had different representatives from their families. we saw amanda berry's sister. this is what she said. let me quote this. quote, she, amanda, has not talked about these things even with me and she does not want other people to talk about these things. you know, i think the caveat also being she's the one with the little girl. the little girl has no idea
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really, i think, the whole back story, right, of this entire decade in captivity. but how would one approach this, talking about the ten years, or simply moving on? >> no. that's not a good sign. i mean, she really does need to be talking about it. certainly with a therapist, first and foremost. it's the hardest in a way -- well, for each of them it's hard in a different way. but she has a child by this monster. that makes it even harder. because the child is always a reminder. of course, she loves the child, i'm sure. but trying to push it under the rug, not talking about it, is the worst thing someone can do when they've had this kind of trauma. >> carole lieberman, forensic psychiatrist, thank you very much. wish these three women and the little girl well. thank you. russia's new anti-gay laws have some calling for a boycott of next year's winter olympics in sochi. johnny weir is a decorated american figure skater and is
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openly guy. coming up next, we'll talk to him about russia's new law and calls for athletes to skip the games altogether. and you may be surprised at what he says.
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revulsion russia is spreading for newly passed laws against gays and lesbian. we talked about this yesterday. new york city demonstrators dumped the contents of russian vodka bottles, look at this, right in front of the russian consulate. just a short time ago, west hollywood, california, same kind of drill. we talked to folks at this west hollywood bar. >> it's something that each of us can do individually today. we don't have to wait for the involvement of politicians, civic leaders, other activist groups. each and every one of us can basically take part in a grassroots movement to highlight
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the injustice of the lgbt community in russia right now. >> stoli has said they're not necessarily a russian company even though a lot of stuff comes out of russia. but there's an importance behind it. if it's going to bring attention to it, there's importance behind it. >> moscow's draconian anti-gay laws curtail public tis cushion of homosexuality and allow for arrests of gay and lesbian tourists. that's with the sochi olympics coming up. now you've got talk of this boycott of that, olympic winter games. cnn's jill dougherty just landed and finished an interview with a very known olympic athlete, johnny weir, who offered his opinion. what did he tell you? >> he loves russia. he freely admits that. in fact, he's married to a man who's a russian-american. took his last name, et cetera. but he says, johnny weir basically says, we ought to go to the olympics. we should not boycott,
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definitely. because our mere presence will be enough. the gay people, let's say the athletes or the gay visitors who want to come, the fans, their presence will be enough to make a statement. now, there are other people who say that if you go to games like that and you don't make a statement, then you're kind of condoning what's going on. and what's going on is, of course, the law that it really is quite draconian. one of the problems is, it's very new. so how could it be interpreted? it could be interpreted very seriously or maybe not as strictly. now, i should point out that the international olympic committee did tell cnn that that law is not going to have an effect on athletes or fans. but many people, gay rights organizations, do not believe that. >> let's watch just a portion of what he told you. this is johnny weir. >> i would never want to boycott the olympics or take the opportunity away from other athletes in this country that have worked just as hard as i have or whose family have
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sacrificed as much as i have. and i think and believe, really, that our presence in russia will do nothing but help fight this law and help the lgbt community. i urge >> so we hear his perspective but i have to ask, here you are from the state department. what about the u.s. government? have they weighed in on the anti-gay laws in russia? >> they definitely have. they are concerned. they for a long time have supported equality, gay rights, and this could be a major issue. after all, don't forget the state department provides security for american athletes when they go to the olympics. so there is concern. but right now they are not -- the u.s. government is not supporting a boycott but they are speaking out very forcefully and have been bringing it up in discussions with the russians. >> jill, thank you for sharing just a piece of your interview.
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you can catch much more of jill's interview with johnny weir on "the situation room" with wolf blitzer at 5:00. do not miss that. a record setting day for the market. look at the new highs. that's next.
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both the dow and s&p 500
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hundred at record gains today. zain asher is here. >> there are quite a number of reasons why investors are showing the dow some love today. firstly, yesterday the fed pretty much reassured investors there are no immediate plans to taper. everyone sort of breathed a sigh of relief. the employment report tomorrow we're going to be getting is going to be relatively strong. we're expecting about 180,000 jobs to have been added last month. this morning we also saw weekly jobless claims fall, which may mean fewer layoffs. and we have a lot of companies reporting solid earnings. i do quickly want to mention procter & gamble, their profit and sales topping expectations and also yelp, shares up about 25% right now after a posted strong earnings last quarter. today has been a solid day on wall street but it is all about that all-important jobs report that comes out tomorrow. >> we'll look for it, zain.
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before i let you go, do not miss this. the small town police chief with a big message full of bleeps, posted it on youtube, led to his suspension. now another video that he called an apology. we'll let you judge how sorry he really is. the postal service is critical to our economy. delivering mail, medicine and packages, yet they're closing thousands of offices, slashing service and want to layoff over 100,000 workers. the postal service is recording financial losses, but not for reasons you might think. the problem? a burden no other agency
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or company bears. a 2006 law that drains $5 billion a year from post office revenue while the postal service is forced to overpay billions more into federal accounts. congress created this problem, and congress can fix it.
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before i go, i have to show you a couple pieces of individual. there's a small town pennsylvania police chief who has been suspended after he went on not just one but two profanity-laced rants against gun control. in the first one, mark kessler wales on liberals, on secretary-general. >> i have a message to kerry and to these [ bleep ]s over in the u.n. here's your [ bleep ]ing agreement. sign anything you want to sign. it's not going to mean [ bleep ]. it don't mean [ bleep ] to me. you know what i have to say?
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come and take [ bleep ]! >> after that video kessler made another one, which was supposed to be an apology. was it? here it was. >> yeah, i don't think so. this boy don't roll that way. for all you people out there who cried and cried about, oh, i used profanity, [ bleep ] you! here's what i got to say. if you didn't get enough the first time around, go [ bleep ] yourself and get some more. >> keep in mind he was the police chief. he was suspended but here's the thing. it wasn't for what he said but it was because he used police
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property without permission. despite all of this, the mayor says she's standing by her city's police chief because he has a write to express himself. let me know how you feel. i'm brooke baldwin. see you tomorrow for tgif. here's jake capptapper. i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." if you were hoping to hear this horror of a man take responsibility for his ambassadoactions, you're going to be disappointed. and she was the first one castro kidnapped. she caught some of the worst of his abuse and today she was the only one to face him down in the courtroom. her brave words to the man who stole a decade of her life and trapped her in hell. >> and our


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