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tonight, keeping them honest. billing you for patients that don't exist. officials now finally going on record. also tonight, does the nsa have your number and web history and e-mails just a key stroke away? new reporting says yes and reveals the classified software they use to access that and more. we are joined by a lawmaker who's part of a bipart ann effort to rein in the agency. is there a belly ache in this bag? health officials say they have released an ugly bug in to contaminated bags of salad. why aren't they saying which brand to avoid? we have our series rehab racket. we have been telling you what a year long investigation reveals
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about a program that's costing us money, big money. our investigation documents how california's federally funded medicaid system medical paid out 94 million disease in the past two years to drug clinics that have shown signs of deception or billing practices. among the scams billing for phony patients, drug treatments never provided or treatments the patients didn't need. in one case because the patient was dead. it is staggering stuff. for weeks, our investigative correspondent drew griffin tried to get answers from officials but no one would talk on camera. instead they couldn't get away from the camera fast enough. two weeks before the investigation started to air, they announced action and last week agreed to sit down and talk. you may ask after seeing tonight's final installment what took so long and whether their promises to get tough add up. drew griffin keeping them honor. >> george shouldn't be in
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california's drug rehab business. >> you seem to be at the center of fraud allegations here. he's been banned from billing medicaid since 2002 but hasn't stopped him from billing the state of california. this man is accused of fraudulent practices at his clinic but it hasn't stopped him from billing the state of california either. >> drew griffin from cnn. >> who are you. >> i just told you. >> your form er employees say you are billing for county services you are not providing, sir then this man ail sand ferdman, convicted for running an organized crime ring ripping off insurance companies. it hasn't stopped him from coming to california, setting up a clinic and billing them. >> mr. ferdman, how can a guy with a record like you operate a drug rehab clinic in california?
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you have been convicted of major insurance car crash scheme in texas. >> i was convicted but it's not what it seems. >> reporter: the last two fiscal years taxpayers spent nearly $186 million, supposedly treating drug and alcohol abuse patients in california. our investigation with the center for investigative reporting found half of that money, or about $94 million has gone to clinics that have shown questionable billing practices or signs of fraud. joy jarvers, former supervisor said she complained to the state for years about all of the obvious fraud. >> we found billing records for people in jail, one person dead, people who said they didn't need this kind of treatment, clinics closed on a certain day, billing for that certain day.
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none of this surprises you. >> not at all. we found all of those things. >> reporter: for a month now, cnn has been asking for an eck plan nation from the state of california, and for more than a month we have gotten nowhere. >> i believe the on-camera interview was declined. >> can i ask you from you why? >> that wasn't my decision. >> reporter: state health officials in one sacramento building after another refused to be questioned including toby douglas who oversees drug medi-cal. >> will you make sure to provide a response as to why this widespread fraud is allowed to continue? after weeks of calling the state's secretary of health and human services and getting no for an answer, we decided to ask for a response in person. >> secretary, drew griffin with cnn. >> how do you do. >> we have been trying to reach you and talk about the
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widespread fraud in the medi-cal business but we are told that no one will talk to us about it. in an uncomfortable moment, the secretary at first refused to speak. secretary, do you know alex ferdman, a convicted felon who apparently runs one of these clinics and has been billing the state of california for several years? despite the fact there have been complaints registered with the department about him? he's convicted of a major insurance fraud in the state of texas, but somehow was able to get certified and has been billing. i'm wondering if there is anyone in california concerned about this fraud. >> then finally answered a question. >> the state of california takes fraud seriously and there are many investigations that are underway. the allegations, all allegations are given full and fair consideration and you have caught me running because i'm late for a meeting that i'm
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chairing. >> i'm wondering if you would do one thing and ask toby douglas to sit down and talk to us and explain to the questions we have. >> if you want to give us a little time. >> we have been given you about a couple of months. >> we have a budget that we are just completing and we have many priorities on our time. information has been provided. answers have been provided. we have a very -- >> i understand. >> we have a very extensive fraud and investigation unit in medi-cal that is one of the best in the country. >> let me ask you two questions. >> that's all i have to say. >> are you concerned there is massive fraud because that's what we are finding out and number two, as secretary of health, could you have toby douglas sit down and talk to us about our specific questions. >> excuse me. >> but that is hardly the end of the story. >> would you get security for me, please? >> our confrontational exchange with california's secretary of health and human services may,
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in fact, have been the trigger for a major state-wide crackdown. one month later, nearly to the day, the state sent out this news release. 16 drug, medi-cal centers are under investigation and temporarily suspended. just this week, california announced that figure has jumped to 29 rehab centers. last week, california relented to cnn's interview request. chief deputy director of health care services, karen johnson tried to explain why it has taken so long. >> we are going to review all of the drug medi-cal providers in the state of california. we are also going to require that they reenrollment, reenroll in our program so that they become recertified. >> reporter: based on that answer, i think it's fair to say the oversight by the state of california, up until now, has been seriously lacking.
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agree? >> i would say that's not a fair characterization. any complaints that were referred to the department of justice and the department of health care services was investigated. there are other complaints. those complaints were investigated. that is going to be part of the ongoing, active investigation. as i mentioned, we are looking at all of the cases and what's emerging is a much larger, bigger picture that we need to address. >> reporter: bigger picture of fraud? >> bigger picture of problems. >> reporter: only now, two weeks before these two national news organizations are about to release a major study of what we found was extensive fraud is the state of california doing this extensive review. coincidence? >> it's not a fair characterization. we have been investigating all along. >> reporter: my question is why has it taken the state so long to catch up to this?
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>> look, there are bad who want to scam this program. and we are going to do everything possible to investigate and to deploy the necessary resources to improve and enhance our enforcement effort. >> reporter: so you feel the state of california has done enough? >> obviously, what has happened and what we see clearly there's more that needs to be done. >> drew griffin is joining us now. i have to say, awesome reporting. i mean, the fact these state officials won't give you any interviews for weeks and weeks and weeks and then are running in to the ladies room to run away from you without answering questions is stunning to me. it seems like they are trying to have it both ways. on whaund it seems like they are saying we have been investigating this stuff and all of a sudden they happen to
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announce a huge review in the wake of your reporting. >> i think it is obvious. just before air we found out that 36 of these clinics have been referred for possible prosecution. alexander ferdman, the man we showed in the piece his clinic shut down last week. george aluno's clinic voluntarily shut down a month ago. they want it both ways. we are on top of it and doing this overhaul and review of the situation. >> and we are working on our budget so we can't bother to talk to you. >> the problem is they did know and that's the crux of what you have been seeing if you have been watching the last several nights. they had records and their own investigators found it and little to nothing was done until now. >> now, at least to you california officials are saying the fraud will end. >> we'll see. right? what they are saying is they will review all of the clinics, recertify all of the clinics.
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that should get away the felons running the clinics. >> they have felons running the clinics. >> but who's going to oversee the clinics are closed on wednesday but billing on wednesdays and they are treating people that don't exist or are dead. we don't know the specifics of what their overhaul will look like, the state auditor, the state senator calling for an independent audit, i think he is on to something because these agencies have been the overseers and have done a terrible job. >> last three nights, every night i think it can't be worse and more incredible. your reporting has been great. you can make a difference if you have a tip for drew on this or any other story go to and let us know what you think. follow me on twitter @anderson cooper. edward snowden's dad and is a lawmaker battling to curb the national security administration on new revelations of how easily the nsa can access on-line data.
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low-level government employees and find out about you with a few key strokes. they are the latest releases from edward snowden whether it is the top officials in washington, people are feeling the heat. >> you lied to congress. why would we believe you are not lying now? >> he said he hasn't lied to congress. the senate judiciary held committee hearings and the national intelligence released documents on in the intelligence gathering. they included a briefing paper describing two familiar programs for logging phone and e-mail data. it says quote only a tiny fraction of such records are ever rerued is by nsa intelligence analysts. new information from snowden showed accessing such information is available to a wide range of analysts and simple and easy to get.
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detailed extensively in the guardian newspaper the program is called xkeyscore. an nsa analyst requires no prior authorization from any court to use it to conduct searches on americans. they have to fill in a box saying there is a foreign connection. in addition the article details how xkeyscore surgeries not just e-mail subject lines and addresses, but also the body of the message itself. social media activity and web browsing history. the nsa maintains access to xkeyscore and other search tools is limited. michigan congressman is a skeptic. he tried and nearly succeeded last week in passing legislation and is trying again. the program revealed in the guardian today xkeyscore, how concerned should people be at about it? >> very concerned. we are going to have a classified briefing tomorrow with keith alexander. i intend to ask some questions. one thing we don't know is where
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is the content coming from? there's an array of content coming in, whether it be e-mails or other internet information an i'd like to know, and my colleagues would like to know where the data is coming from. >> did you know about this before snand the people in the intelligence committee says there is congressional oversight but my understanding is there is only congressional oversight on what the nsa happens to tell you about. >> yeah, we have briefings and is it possible in some document somewhere when delay hand you 200 pages and tell you can only look at it in a room there's some line about this program. it is possible. i don't know. the problem when we go to these briefings is we have to ask exactly the right question to get the right answer. if we don't ask the precise question we don't get an answer. >> even when james clapper testified on capitol hill recently he was asked point blank whether or not they collect data on american
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citizens, and clapper said no, not wittingly. then he sort of later on said, well, the definition of collecting is than the common definition. did he lie? in your opinion? >> yes, he did. he lied to congress. he lied to the american people. i've called for him to step down and i think he should face the consequences that any american would face who came to congress and gave false testimony or did so in a court proceeding. any ordinary american might be facing prison time for doing that. we have to treat government officials the same way we treat anyone else. >> we have had a number of intelligence officials the last number of months or certainly weeks and saying some of the programs the collecting of data and phone calls or phone numbers, it stopped dozens of terrorists attacks. now, senator patrick leahy came forward and said maybe it stopped or was involved in one but when you look at the details
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of how the programs was used it has not stopped nearly the number that some intelligence officials have been claiming. >> yeah. there are many of them who have been careful to say under this program and other programs we have stopped 54 terrorist attacks. there are some members who have not been careful and i think have bordered on giving false testimony to the american people, and we should take a close look at that. yeah, i think those who are careful and cautious about what they say realize it's not this particular collection of phone records, mass collection of phone records that is doing the work here. >> i spoke to glenn greenwald on this program last night. he pointed out that people within the government, high-level officials leak classified information all the time if it suits their political interest or whatever interest they may have and nothing seems to happen to them. yet people with no status, no political connections like bradley manning or edward
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snowden or lower level officials they get hit with the full brunt of the justice system. i'm not condoning breaking the law but is the system unfair here? >> i think it is unfair. we need a way for those who want to blow the whistle on the government to do so. there's a lot of talk that edward snowden could go to, for example, a member of congress and tell them about the program it that wasn't applied in a constitutional manner. that's not true. edward snowden couldn't come to me or most members of congress to talk about it. he had to go to his superiors and he might be able to talk to people on the intelligence committee. they don't have a lot of avenues. if you look at the intelligence committee members, some of them, it is stacked in favor of people who support these programs with the exception of a few people like senator wyden and udall an some others. >> appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you so much, anderson. let's dig deeper with edward
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snowden's father and bruin fine. good to have you on the program. what's your reaction to this newly published information based on intelligence your son gave them that there is a program that allows the nsa to access anything a typical user done does on the internet? >> i find it shocking. it's simply a matter of more truth coming forward. i have only been able to scan the new information, but i'm very interested in seeing the two intelligence committees now, specifically mike rogers the chairman of the house and dianne feinstein what they have to say. is there going to be more misdirection. we talk about james clapper, but i think the leadership of the two intelligence committees at this point is suspect. congressman amash abelieve eluded to it when he talked about how people answer questions. much of how you answer questions is framed by what questions are asked. i would say that mike rogers
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peter king, dianne feinstein, and some members and leaders who put them there need to take a hard look at that leadership. i believe it is deficient n. my prior career, when you have problems with oversight and there's a loss of confidence you change the leadership. i believe it's time for that. >> i would also volunteer, it shows sunshine is the best disinfectant. why edward snowden's claims were critical to the functioning of democracy. one thing apparent at the judiciary hearing today that everyone was eager to discuss ways to reform and curtail the programs that edward snowden revealed but it was like his name was taboo. no one could utter his name because he showed they had been derelict in not disclosing and
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conducting the oversight he did single handedly, 29 years old. >> lon, you talk about your prior career. you had a career in the coast guard, as i understand it. do you believe when you hear intel officials say some of the programs your son revealed that they stopped dozens. more than 50 or were involved with the prevenge of 50 terrorist attacks. do you believe that? >> no. i think you have to focus on the language. i believe anyone in government who's trying to preserve a program or gain support for a program, you are going to use the strongest possible language. went we originally heard language from i believe general alexander giving testimony as he was questioned again by the house intelligence committee, the language they used was quote, potential terrorist events", end quote. that gets extrapolated to thwarted 50 terrorist attacks but i would be interested in
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seeing the number of prosecutions and more details on that. the bottom line is if you have to say 50 potential events that's not very strong language. certainly, again, i believe we need a strong intelligence kmooit community. they do good work. also a strong conventional defense. it is a matter of priority. i believe if we pull this thread we will find bigger issue. the issue is money and power. there are many corporations who benefit from these programs, as well as employees, i should say appointed officials within the intelligence community who bounce back between government and corporate service and it is a cash cow to be frank. we have other, i believe, issues that politicians are ignoring because there's concern about votes. again, i'll go back to the southern border. certain politicians do not want to talk about security there. i'd love to hear from some of
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our, particularly retire whod have no fear of blow back, retired border patrol officials talking about how secure the southern border is. >> if i could interject, one deficiency in the number is that it doesn't state whatever was foiled couldn't have been foiled with measures consistent with the patriot act section 215. the testimony today was there's only a tiny fraction out of really billions if not trillions of data gathered on americans that is ever viewed as relevant. and really you need to gather that information and they started to ask maybe that is not what we need to do. we need to have a conversation. of course no one said the reason you are thinking of this is because of edward snowden. >> there are a couple of things you said to the "washington post." i want to try to get more clarification on. you said the fbi asked you to travel to moscow to see your son
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a while back. what did they expect you to do or hope for you to do and is that something you would like to do, go there? >> i am glad you asked that. i can't give you a date. it was sometime ago. they called and they asked if i would be willing to get on a flight and go to moscow to see my son. i was at home and it was a complete surprise. i had no attorney at the time. i had done nothing wrong. i was adamant i would not have an attorney. i thought about it and i wanted to say yes. and then i asked, are you sure my son is in moscow and than they said no. and i said i'm not going to go on a flight and sit on a tarmac for you to be an emotional tool to use against him. i want to first speak to my son and so can you establish communications and they said i'm not sure that i can and i thought i have buddies that can set up communications on any place in the planet. all of the military services
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within a short period of time. so that was the prerequisite. if you set up communications and i can speak to my son and believe there is value i'd like to go. the positive thing that came out of that is after i hung up, i thought maybe i should have legal counsel if i'm going to get on a plane and go to moscow. that led me through a trusted adviser to bruce fine and other attorneys. and that was a critical milestone for me and i'm thankful for that. we tried to work with the fbi to set up communications. one of our requirements was going to be that attorney-client privilege was respected. i wanted to establish that for my son if he was coming back to u.s. soil and that's on the advice of bruce, which is wise counsel that i wouldn't have considered. but from there, i don't want to get in to specifics, but it just went downhill. at this point, i have no desire to get on an aircraft with the
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fbi to fly to moscow because i have lost faith in the overarching organization, the justice department that again they are operating in good faith. >> you would actually tell your son, my understanding, from what you said last week on this program, you would actually tell your son, it's probably a good idea to stay in russia, you would say, is that true? >> no question. again, you know, it's an evolution for me of watching, again, so many -- again, these folks on the intel committees, what i have seen from them and other comments from, again, the attorney general, the secretary of state, at this point, absolutely i feel that it is in my son's best interest. both for his personal safety and finding justice, which i hope he will be able to return to the united states and answer for this and the truth be told n. this climate i don't believe it is possible. so yes, i think russia is the best place for him and i think
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that's where -- russia, i believe, has the strength and conviction to protect my son at this point. >> bruce, before you jump in, because i know you are about to jump n. i want to ask one other question. since last we talked bradley manning was convicted of leaking classified material but he was acquitted on the serious charge of aiding the enemy and facing 136 years in prison. does that give you pause in terms of what it could mean for your son? >> certainly it has implications, but bradley manning was really a member of the military, as i was most of my life, subject to the uniform code of military justice, tried in a military court. certainly i know how he was treated. ultimately it is the government at the highest levels that was responsible for that. at this point, i'm really concerned about my son's safety. i'm not even thinking about what would happen in terms of the trial. that's why we have attorneys,
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bruce and access to many others. we're just not at that point. i'm concerned about my son's immediate safety, security and health. >> bruce, go ahead. >> i think you can distinguish edward snowden's case from bradley manning's with regard to the substance of what he disclosed. it would be a violation of the first amendment, under my view, for the government to punish the disclosure of wrongful government action. i want to volunteer that last evening i spoke to anatoly, edward's attorney in russia and he reassured me that edward is in good health and maybe a time where it would be constructive to try to meet and see whether there can be common ground that everyone agrees would advance the interest of the united states. mr. snowden, lon, his father, and the interest of russia in trying to resolve this in a way
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braking news out of cleveland. on the eve of ariel castro's sentencing hearing. as you know he plead guilty to 900 counts in a plea deal that took the death penalty off the table. he is expected to speak tomorrow in court. we have new information on he hearing. what do we expect tomorrow? what will happen? >> it is certain to be a dramatic proceeding tomorrow. we will see some evidence taken from castro's home, some pictures, witness testimony and we are hearing from sources, anderson, that one of the three victims will actually be making an impact statement tomorrow. we're hearing from sources that will likely be michelle knight. of course that could change between now and then. she could change her mind but as of now we are hearing michelle knight will make an impact statement either through video or in the courtroom with ariel castro sitting there. this may surprise some people because according to sources and police reports michelle knight experienced the worst abuse over the last ten years.
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but this could be therapeutic and empowering for her, anderson, according to psychologists. also she has been showing gratitude. she wrote a thank you letter to cleveland police, who have been helping her. they posted this on their facebook page earlier today. she says you don't know how much appreciate your time and work collecting cards and gifts from people for me and the other girls oochl overwhelmed by the amount of thoughts, love and prayers expressed by complete strangers. it is comforting. life is tough but i'm tougher. just when the caterpillar thought the world was over she became the butterfly. thanks. god bless you, michelle knight. we expect to hear the same tone and gratitude from her tomorrow if she makes that impact statement. >> is ariel castro speaking tomorrow? his attorney is saying yes and expected to be apologetic. it could be the first time we see him being remorseful.
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i spoke to someone close to him today. she said that he will be explaining a lot tomorrow. that we could see another side of ariel castro and he's not the monster that everyone thinks he is. we will have to wait and see what he has to say. >> that would be quite a statement if he is able to convince anyone of that. coming up, o.j. simpson learns whether he is granted parole and there is a twist to that. health officials say a bagged salad mix made hundreds of people safe. why aren't they saying which brand is the culprit? we will hear from dr. sanjay gupta coming up. ration beyond the engineering. ♪ come to the golden opportunity sales event to experience the precision handling of the lexus performance vehicles, including the gs and all-new is. ♪ this is the pursuit of perfection.
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liberty mutual insurance -- responsibility. what's your policy? today o.j. simpson was granted parole in his armed robbery case but not getting out of prison anytime son. he will be to be there four more years because he's only been granted parole on some charges and is serving consecutive sentences. >> they told me what was expected of me here and i gave them my word i would try to be -- or would be the best prisoner they have ever had here and i think for the most part i have kept my word on that. >> joining us is jeffrey toobin and mark gary goeeragos. >> if there is any justice o.j.
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should be in prison for life for killing ron goldman and nicole brown. but he got acquitted for better or worse. this case is ridiculous. he's accused of trying to steal his own case and someone else has a gun and he is accused of knowing about the guy who had the gun. the guy who had a gun is already out of prison. o.j. didn't have a gun. it is a ridiculous form of pay back and a ridiculous case. >> you have no idea that pay back was involved. >> absolute sli. it was in the decision to charge him, the length of the sentence. it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy as far as i'm concerned but this is an unjust situation. >> mark, i want to play one clip from his parole hearing last week. let's listen. >> i knew these guys who had my stuff. i was a little upset with them and i think i wasn't as civil as i should have been.
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i brought some guys with me, who i didn't really know and one i didn't trust and that's on me. for that, i have been here for five years. all i could do about it since i have been here is be as respectful and as straightforward as i could be with the staff here and do my time as best as i can do it. >> do you agree with jeff this is basically pay back? >> yeah. this was a prosecution by proxy or prosecutorial pay back. this case, normally would have been called a d. a reject which is when cops take it to a prosecutor they would have rejected this case and said it is a civil matter. if you believe him -- and i think he made a compelling statement not this this parole hearing today but in the motion for his habous motion earlier that he had consulted with his
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lawyer and his lawyer told him as long as he didn't use force that was okay to do. it really is an outrageous sentence. i agree with jeff's shock that couldn't have happened to a nicer guy but the fact is that we have a system and just because prosecutors didn't get a conviction in l.a. doesn't mean the prosecutors in nevada are supposed to pay him back because it didn't work in los angeles. i mean when you think of the amount of time he got on this case, and the fact that he's actually done five years and, you know the news today is doing four more years on this case. i mean, i have had clients who have shot and killed people who have done less time. >> wow. >> think of it, nine years for having a screaming fight in a hotel room over property that might well have been his? it is just an outrageous case.
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again, i have no sympathy for this guy. but if you want to look at it as the criminal justice system in action, it's just wrong. >> yet, mark, he's not going to get -- he's not going to get freedom right now because these were consecutive, correct? >> correct. it's not going to happen on this proceeding. it very well could happen -- he's fighting for the new trial. it could very well happen in the new trial proceeding. this is important for him legally because if he wins the new trial, he could arguably say at that point, make a bail application and get released on bail pending the trial. this is significant for him. it's a big win for him, although, as jeff says, it doesn't do much. he is still facing four in these proceedings. >> jeff toobin, mark geragos, thank you very much. a man accused of killing his wife with cyanide. that's next. i think farmers care more about the land
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dr. sanjay gupta is joining us now. it would seem the name of this contaminated salad is something consumers want to know. why aren't they releasing it. >> literally walking around the building that is what people are asking. it is a complicated investigation more than people realize in part because this is mixed salad. you have iceberg, romaine and red cabbage. they were sold in grocery stores and restaurants which means they could have gotten various components from different places and combined them. that is part of the issue going on here. also, you have this notion that these illnesses started to happen in mid june. whatever it was, it's probably -- it was a perishable item, it is probably off the shelves now. so it may not make a difference to release the brand. >> do they know how the parasite got in to the salad. >> they think it happened before it got in to the bag. they don't think it was a
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contamination from the bags, for example. so it either irrigation water for the vegetables themselves or during the pre-washing process. they warn wash them once and put them in the bag. one of those steps if it is irrigation water that poses a concern then it becomes is it still irrigating and contaminating more vegetables. >> can people still get sick or do you think it is off the shelves? >> for this particular outbreak, it is off the shelves. starting in mid june, it -- it would be out of the grocery stores and out of people's refrigerators by now. if it is not it should be, given it is over a month and a half. it could take a long time to get sick after you get this parasite if your body. it can take weeks. it is possible that we might see new cases of this, but it is probably related to the initial outbreak. >> we have a digital dashboard question from a viewer on
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twitter. they said can the ability of these parasites to make people ill have been eliminated or minimized if people washed them first. >> it is hard to completely wash them off the vegetables. presumably it was washed if it was contaminated water -- but you can wash them gechbl biggest concern is cross contamination from our kitchen. you have to hold them under the faucet and let the water run over it and dry them, as well. you can develop a residue as part of the process that you need to literally clean off. sounds like a lot of work to do but that's what is necessary for this parasite sglin credible stuff. >> thank you. >> you got it, thank you. >> cyclospora is the name of the parasite. i neglected to mention that. we are joined with the 360 news and business bulletin. >> reporter: the 360, the university of pittsburgh research professor accused of
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the nsa's deputy director faces tough questions about edward snowden today. the former head of the nsa out front to respond. let's go "outfront." the national security agency under fire again for its spying programs. today the obama administration declassified and released three documents outlining the phone and internet data collection