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did you know how big -- >> it was unreal. it was unreal. it was like something that -- why would they want to pick me? you know? why would i be picked over all these hundreds of people that they interviewed? >> did you have an idea in your mind about what happened? >> no, because i hadn't followed the trial at all. i mean, i had heard of bits and pieces of what had happened, and the names that were involved, was not any details. >> and when the trial started, what was the first day like? there were the opening statements, don west told a joke. >> knock, knock, who's there? >> what did you think of that? >> the joke was horrible. >> george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right, good, you're on the jury. >> nobody got it. i didn't get it, until later, when i thought about it, and i'm like, i guess that could have been funny, but not in the context he told it. >> was there a particular witness that stands out to you?
who did you find to be the most credible? >> the doctor, and i didn't know his name. >> the doctor the defense called? >> yes. >> what about him? >> i thought he was awe inspiring. the experiences that he had had over in the war, and i just never thought of anybody that could recognize somebody's voice yelling, in like a terrible terror voice, when he was just previously a half hour ago playing cards with him. >> that is george zimmerman. >> a lot of analysts who were watching the trial felt that the defense attorneys, mark o'mara and don west were able to turn prosecution witnesses to their advantage. chrisser er i chris advisory serino, for instance, the lead investigator, did he make an impression on you? >> chris serino did, but to me, he was just doing his job. he was doing his job the way he was doing his job, and he was going to tell the truth,
regardless of who asked him the questions. >> so you found him to be credible? >> i did. very credible. >> so when he testified that he found george zimmerman to be more or less, overall truthful, did that make an impression on you? >> it did. it made a big impression on me. >> what did he say when you told him that? i believe his words were, "thank god, i was hoping somebody would videotape it." >> the fact that george zimmerman said to you, "thank god, i hope somebody did videotape the event, or the whole event," what did that indicate to you? >> either he was telling the truth or he was a complete pathological liar. >> why? >> because he deals with this all the time. he deals with, you know, murder, robberies. he's in it all the time. and i think he has a knack to pick out whose lying and who's not lying. >> the prosecution started off
by saying that george zimmerman was on top in the struggle and then later on, they seemed to conce concede, well, perhaps trayvon martin was on top, but maybe he was pulling away. did you feel that the prosecution really had a firm idea of what actually happened? >> i think they wanted to happen what they wanted to happen, to go to their side, for the prosecution and the state. there was a lot -- the witnesses that the defense had on, plus some of the prosecution witnesses, there was no doubt that they had seen what had happened. some of it was taped, so they couldn't refute any of that. >> was on the 911 tapes. >> the 911 tapes and the john good calling and all of that. >> how significant were those 911 tapes to you? >> the lauer tape was the most significant, because it went through before the struggle, during the struggle, the gunshot, and then after.
>> 911, do you need police, fire, or medical? >> um, maybe both. i'm not sure. there's just someone screaming outside. >> you had the parents of trayvon martin testifying, you had the family of george zimmerman and friends of george zimmerman testifying about whose voice it was on the 911 call. whose voice did you think it was ton 911 call? >> i think it was george zimmerman's. >> did everyone on the jury agree with that? >> all but probably one. >> and what made you think it was george zimmerman's voice? >> because of the evidence that he was the one that had gotten beaten. >> so you think because he was the one who had cuts and had abrasions, he was the one getting hit, he was the one calling for help? >> well, because of the witnesses of john good saw trayvon on top of george, not necessarily hitting him, because it was so dark he couldn't see, but he saw blows down towards george. and he could tell that it was george zimmerman on the bottom.
he didn't know who it was, but he knew what they were wearing. >> the one -- the juror who didn't think it was george zimmerman's voice, who thought it was trayvon martin's voice in that call, do you know why they thought it was that way? >> she didn't think it was trayvons, she just said it could have been trayvons. >> so she wasn't even sure? >> no. she wanted to give everybody an absolute out of being guilty. >> but you were sure it was george zimmerman's voice? >> i was sure it was george zimmerman's voice. >> and everyone else was? >> i think they were. i don't think there was a doubt. that everybody else thought it was george's voice. >> what did you think of george zimmerman? >> i think george zimmerman is a man whose heart was in the right place, but just got displaced by the vandalism in the neighborhoods and wanting to catch these people so badly that he went above and beyond what he
really should have done. but i think he was a little negligible in doing what he did -- >> negligent? >> negligent, sorry. but i think his heart was in the right place. it just went terribly wrong. >> do you think he's guilty of something? >> i think he's guilty of not using good judgment. when he was in the car, and he had called 911, he shouldn't have gotten out of that car. >> he shouldn't have gotten out of -- >> he shouldn't have gotten out of that car. >> do you feel george zimmerman should have been carrying a gun? >> i think he has every right to carry a gun. i think it's everybody's right to carry a gun, as long as they use it the way it's supposed to be used and be responsible in using it. >> george zimmerman, obviously, did not testify, but his testimony, essentially, was brought into the trial, through those videotapes, a number of
videotapes, where he walked police through a reenactment of what he said happened. how important were those videotapes to you? actually to hear from him what he said happened? >> i don't really know, because, i mean, watching the tapes, there's always something in the back saying, is it right? is it consistent? but with all the evidence of the phone calls and all the witnesses that he saw,ic george was pretty consistent and told the truth, basically. i'm sure there were some fabrications, enhancements, but i think, pretty much, it happened the way george said it happened. next, she's been bullied and bad mouthed. prosecution witness rachel jeantel. when she used the phrase, "creepy-ass cracker," did you see that as a negative statement or as a racial statement? all business purchases.
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i want to ask you about some of the different witnesses. rachel jeantel, the woman who was on the phone with trayvon martin at the start of the incident. what did you make of her testimony? >> i didn't think it was very credible, but i felt very sorry for her. she didn't ask to be in this place. she didn't ask -- she wanted to
go. she wanted to leave. she didn't want to be any part of this jury. i think she felt inadequate toward everyone, because of her education and her communication skills. i just felt sadness for her. >> you felt like, what, she was in over her head? >> well, not over her head, she just didn't want to be there. and she was embarrassed by being there because of her education and her communication skills that she just wasn't a good witness. >> do you find it hard at times to understand what she was saying? >> a lot of the times. because a lot of the times, she was using phrases i have never heard before, and what they meant. >> he looked like a creepy-ass cracker. >> when she used the phrase, "creepy-ass cracker," what did you think of that? >> i thought it was probably the
truth. i think trayvon probably said that. >> and did you see that as a negative statement or a racial statement? as the defense suggested? >> i don't think it's really racial. i think it's just everyday life. the type of life that they live and how they'reliving, and in the environment that they're living in. >> so you didn't find her credible as a witness? >> no. >> so did you find her testimony important in terms of what she actually said? >> well, i think the most important thing is the time that she was on the phone with trayvon. so you basically, hopefully, if she heard anything, she would say she did, but the time coincides with george's statements in testimony of time limits and what had happened during that time. >> explain that. >> well, because there was -- george was on the 911 call while she was on the call with trayvon, and the times coincide, and i think there was two
minutes between when george hung up from his 911 call to the time when trayvon and rachel had hung up. so really nothing could have happened, because the 911 caller would have heard the nonemergency call that george had called, heard something happening before that. >> what did you think of the testimony of trayvon martin's mother and father? do you find them credible? >> i was listening to my son's last cry for help i was listening to his life being taken. >> i think they said anything a mother and father would say. just like george zimmerman's mom and father. i think they're your kids. you want to believe that they're innocent and that was their voice, because hearing that voice would make it credible, was that they were the victim, not the aggressor. >> so in a way, both sets of parents kind of canceled each other out in your mind? >> they did, definitely. because if i was a mother, i
would want to believe so hard that it was not my son that did that or was responsible for any of that, that i would convince myself, probably, that it was his voice. >> so you think he's yelling "help"? >> yes. >> all right, what is your -- [ gunshot ] >> just -- there's gunshots. >> how critical was it for you in your mind to have an idea of whose voice it was yelling for help? how important was that yell for help? >> i think it was pretty important, because it was a long cry and scream for help that whoever was calling for help was in fear of their life. >> when george zimmerman said that trayvon martin had reached for his gun, but there was no dna evidence, and the defense said, it could have got washed off in the rain or the like, do you believe that trayvon martin reached for george zimmerman's gun? >> i think he might have. i think george probably thought
that he did, because george was the one who knew that george was carrying a gun. and he was aware of that. >> you can't say for sure whether or not trayvon martin knew that george zimmerman was carrying a gun? >> no. >> so you can't say for sure whether or not trayvon martin reached for that gun? >> right. but that doesn't make it right. i mean, there's not a right or a wrong if even if he did reach for the gun, it doesn't make any difference. >> how so? >> well, because george had a right to protect himself at that point. >> so you believe that george zimmerman really felt his life was in danger? >> i do. i really do. >> do you think trayvon martin threw the first punch? >> i think he did. >> what makes you think that. >> because of the evidence, on the "t," or on the sidewalk, where george says he was punched, there was evidence of his flashlight and keys there, and then a little bit farther down, there was a flashlight that he was carrying.
and i think that's where trayvon hit him. >> so you think, based on the testimony you heard, you believe that trayvon martin was the aggressor? >> i think the roles changed. i think george got in a little bit too deep, which he shouldn't have been there, but trayvon decided that he wasn't going to let him scare him and get the one-up on him or something. and i think trayvon got mad and attacked him. >> do you have any doubt that george zimmerman feared for his life? >> i have no doubt that george feared for his life. >> ahead, on the streets, protesters are calling for civil rights charges against george zimmerman. in the jury room, did race come up at all. do you feel that george zimmerman racially profiled trayvon martin? do you think race played a role in his decision? we used to live with a bear.
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the prosecution tried to paint george zimmerman as a wannabe cop, overeager. do you buy that? >> i think he's overeager to help people. like the lady that was broken in and robbed. her baby and her were upstairs. he came over and he offered her a lock for her backsliding glass door. he offered her his phone number, his wife's phone number. i mean, you have to have a heart to do that and care, to help
people. >> so you didn't find it creepy -- you didn't find it a negative that you didn't buy the prosecution when they kind of said he was a wannabe cop? >> no, i didn't at all. >> is george zimmerman you would like to have on a neighborhood watch in your community? >> if he didn't go too far. i mean, you can always go too far. he just didn't stop at the limitations that he should have stopped at. >> so, i don't -- is that a yes or is that -- if he didn't go too far, is he somebody prone, you think, to going too far? >> i think he was frustrated with the whole situation in the neighborhood, with the break-ins and the robberies and they actually arrested somebody not that long ago. i would feel comfortable having george, but i think he's learned a good lesson. >> so you would feel comfortable having him now, because you
think he's learned a lesson from all of this? >> exactly. i think he just didn't know when to stop. he was frustrated and things just got out of hand. >> people have now remarked subsequently that he gets his gun back and there's some people who have said, that he can have a gun worries them. does that worry you? >> that doesn't worry me. i think he would be more responsible than anybody else on this planet right now. >> the prosecution didn't use the word "racial profiling" during the case. >> this defendant made the wrong assumption. he profiled him as a criminal. >> they used the word "profile," and that was worked out between the judge and the lawyers when the jury wasn't in the room. do you feel that george zimmerman racially profiled trayvon martin? do you think race played a role in his decision, his view of trayvon martin as suspicious? >> i don't think he did.
i think just circumstances caused george to think that he might be a robber or trying to do something bad in the neighborhood, because of all that had gone on previously. there were unbelievable number of robberies in the neighborhood. so you don't believe race played a role in this case? >> i don't think it did. i think if there was another person, spanish, white, asian. if they came in the same situation that were trayvon was, i think george would have reacted the exact same way. >> why do you think george zimmerman found trayvon martin suspicious, then? >> because he was cutting through the back. it was raining. he said he was looking in houses, as he was walking down the road, kind of just not having a purpose as to where he was going. he was stopping and starting. but, i mean, that's george's
rendition of it. but i think the situation where trayvon got into him being late at night, dark at night, raining, and anybody would think anybody walking down the road, stopping and turning and looking, if that's exactly what happened, is suspicious. and george had said that he didn't recognize who he was. >> was that a common belief on the jury, that race was not -- that race did not play a role in this? >> i thought all of us thought that race did not play a role. >> so nobody thought race played a role? >> i don't think so. >> none of the jurors? >> i don't think so. i can't speak for them. >> that was ant discussion in the jury room? >> no, we didn't have that discussion. >> it didn't come up with, the question, did george zimmerman profile trayvon martin because he was african-american? >> no, i think he just profiled him because he was the neighborhood watch and he profiled anybody that came in acting strange. i think it was just, circumstances happened that he saw trayvon at the exact time
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washington to new york, the scenes were repeated all around the country, including sanford, florida, where trayvon martin was killed and where george zimmerman was acquitted. in miami, trayvon martin's father, tracy martin, spoke to cnn. >> it was overwhelming. it just goes to show the love and the support that our family and friends have for us here in miami as well as across the country. and it sends a message to the nation that we're not going to sit back and let our children be killed and don't say anything about it. >> other news now. one year ago today, a gunman burst into an aurora, colorado, movie theater, killing 12 people and injuring 70 others. people in aurora honored the victims saturday, holding vigils and rallies to remember the fallen and to promote healing. no one in aurora can ever forget the horrific massacre on july 20th of last year. a woman is dead after she tumbled out of her roller-coaster car at six flags over texas.
one witness told "the dallas morning news" that a woman was concerned her safety bar wasn't secured before the texas giant coaster started moving friday night. six flags over texas spokeswoman said the coaster has been closed while officials investigate the deadly accident. now to a major storm that hit las vegas. it roared into the area friday, flooding streets, downing trees, and damaging several homes. the storm ripped holes in the roof of this bar on the strip, allowing water to come pouring into the building. and here in the northeast, it looks as though we'reoing to finally get a reprieve from the extreme heat, finally. a cold front is moving in. it will produce some wet weather and it will also drop temperatures, which is good news. in boston, folks there will be looking at a high of 79 on sunday. that's after the high 90s on saturday. even here in new york, we'll drop below 90. again, finally. a deadly day in baghdad. at least 41 people were killed in a series of bombings over a
two-hour period on saturday. more than 165 others were injured. the 11 car bombs and 6 roadside blasts were predominantly shiite areas -- in predominantly shiite areas. they occurred a day after a bomb went off in a sunni mosque, killing 18 people. those are your headlines this hour. i'm don lemon, keeping you informed. cnn, the most trusted name in news. this is an "a.c. 360" special report, "not guilty:the zimmerman trial." juror b-37 takes us inside the verdict. in this second half hour of my exclusive interview, who juror b-37 believes is responsible for the fight that cost trayvon martin his life. how jurors voted the first time, and whether she believes this shooting of trayvon martin was justified. do you think trayvon martin played a role in his own death? that this wasn't just something that happened to him, that this is something he also -- >> oh, i believe he played a huge role in his death. he could have -- when george
confronted him, and he could have walked away and gone home. he didn't have to do whatever he did and come back and be in a fight. >> and the other jurors felt that as well? >> they did. i mean, as far as i -- my perspective of it, they did. >> let's talk about how you reached the verdict. when the closing arguments were done, the rebuttal was done, you go to that jury room, what happened? >> well, the first day, we went in, we were trying to get ourselves organized, because there's no instructions on what you do, how you do it, and when you do it. so we all decided -- we nominated a foreman, so she can have the voice and kind of run the show. the first day, we got all the evidence on the tables and on the walls, then we asked for an inventory, because it was just too time consuming, looking for evidence, when it was in no
order whatsoever. >> did you take an initial vote to see where everybody was? >> we did. >> so where was everybody -- how was that first vote? >> we had three not guilties, one second-degree murder, and two manslaughters. >> so half the jury felt he was not guilty, two manslaughters, and one second-degree? >> exactly. >> can you see -- do you want to say where you were on that? >> i was not guilty. >> so going into it, at -- once all the evidence had been presented, you felt he was not guilty? >> i did. i think the medical examiner could have done a better job at presenting trayvon's -- preserving trayvon's evidence issue >> the state medical examiner -- >> i mean the state. they should have bagged his hands, they should have dried his clothes. they should have done a lot of things they didn't do. >> do you feel you know truly what happened? >> i have a rendition of what i believe happened and i think it's probably as close as
anybody could come to what happened, but nobody's going to know what exactly happened, except for george. >> so you took that first vote, you saw, basically, the jury split. two people thought manslaughter, one person thought second-degree murder, three not guilty. how do you then go about deciding things? >> we started looking at the evidence. we listened to all the tapes, two, three, four, five times. >> the 911 recordings? >> the 911 recordings, and then there's the reenactment tape, there were some tapes from previous 911 calls that george had made. >> the reenactment tape, that's the tape of george zimmerman walking police through what he says happened? >> exactly, exactly. we looked through pretty much everything. that's why it took us so long. and then, at the end, we just, we got done, and then we just
started looking at the law, what exactly we could find and how we should vote for this case. and the law became very confusing. >> yeah, tell me about that. >> it became very confusing. we had stuff thrown at us. we had the second drive murder charge, the manslaughter charge, then we had self-defense, stand your ground. and i think there was one other one, but the manslaughter case, we actually had gotten it down to manslaughter, because the second-degree, it wasn't at second-degree anymore. >> so the person who felt it was second-degree going into it, you had convinced them, okay, it's manslaughter? >> through going through -- going through the law. and then we had sent a question to the judge, and it was not a question that they could answer yes or no. so they sent it back saying if
we could narrow it down to a question -- >> you sent a question out to the judge about manslaughter. >> yes. >> and about -- >> and what could be applied to the manslaughter. we were laooking at the self-defense. one of the girls said -- asked if you can put all the leading things into that one moment, where he feels it's a matter of life or death, to shoot this boy or if it was just at the heat of passion at that moment. >> so that juror wanted to know whether the things that had brought george zimmerman to that place, not just in the minute or two before the shot actually went off, but -- >> exactly. >> earlier that day, even prior crime? >> not prior crimes, just the swaugssituation leading to it. from the ball getting rolling -- >> from him spotting trayvon martin, to him getting out of
his vehicle, to following -- whether all of that could play a role in determining -- >> the self-defense or not. >> did you feel like you understood the instructions from the judge? because they were very complex. i mean, reading them, they were tough to follow. >> right. and that was our problem. i mean, it was just so confusing, what went with what and what we could apply to what. because, i mean, there was a couple of them in there that wanted to find him guilty of something. and after hours and hours and hours of deliberating over the law and reading it over and over and over and over again, we decided there's just no way, no other place to go. >> can you talk about the process of the other jurors changing their minds? i mean, you talked about, the first juror went from second-degree murder to manslaughter, then you put out the question to the judge for
manslaughter, and then it was basically because of the jury's reading of the law, that everybody finally decided, manslaughter doesn't hold? >> that's exactly why. >> was there any holdout? >> there was a holdout. and probably -- well, we had another vote. and then everybody voted -- put it in a little tin, we had a little tin, folded our little papers and put it in the vote, and she was the last one to vote, and it took probably another 30 minutes before her to decide that she could not find anything else to hold george on, because, you want to find him guilty of something. she wanted to find him guilty of something, but couldn't because of the law, the way the law is written. he wasn't responsible for negligible things that he had done, leading up to that point.
>> did you also want to find him guilty of something? >> i wanted to find him guilty of not using his senses. but you can't fault anybody -- you can't fault him -- you can't charge him with anything, because he didn't do anything unlawful. >> you're saying he overreacted or maybe was too eager, made bad choices, but it wasn't against the law. >> exactly. that's exactly what happened. >> you're saying maybe it wasn't right -- it wasn't right, getting out of that car, but it wasn't against the law? >> exactly. he started the ball rolling, he could have avoided the whole situation we staying in the car, but he wanted to do good. i think he had good in his heart. he just went overboard. coming up, the verdict -- >> we, the jury, find george zimmerman not guilty. >> -- and the emotional toll it took on jurors. >> after we had put our vote in and the bailiff had taken our
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right now. >> so whether it was george zimmerman getting out of the vehicle, whether he was right to get out of the vehicle, whether he was a wannabe cop, whether he was overeager, none of that, in the final analysis, mattered. what mattered was those seconds before the shot went off, did george zimmerman fear for his life? >> exactly. that's exactly what happened. >> do you have any doubt that george zimmerman feared for his life? >> i have no doubt george feared for his life, in the situation he was in at the time. >> so when the prosecution, their closing argument is holding up the skittles. >> he bought skittles and some kind of water mmelon or iced te or whatever it's called. >> and holding up the iced tea, and saying, this is what trayvon martin was armed, this is a kid who had skittles and iced tea, did you find that compelling at all, or did you find mark o'mara with a concrete block compelling?
>> now, that's cement. >> well, mark with the concrete block, definitely. it's just, the skittles and the arizona can were ridiculous to even put it up and compare the two. i mean, anybody can be armed with anything. you could bash somebody's head against a tree or a rock or this concrete. >> so you believe that trayvon martin was slamming george zimmerman's head against the concrete without a doubt? >> i believe he hit his head on the concrete. i think he was probably trying to slam it. i don't know how hard george's head hit on the concrete. it hit enough to get damaged, bruising, swelling. i think it's, you know, it was definitely enough to make you fear, when you're in that situation. >> and the photos of george zimmerman, the photos of his injuries, to you, were those something you also looked at in the jury room? >> we did. we did. we did all the -- that kind of evidence first. and then we listened to all the tapes afterwards.
>> and that was important to you, because that also made you believe george zimmerman was legitimately fearing for his life? >> i believed it. i believed, because of his injuries. >> please pay attention to the instructions that i am about to give you. >> the two options you had, second-degree murder or manslaughter, you felt, either applied? >> right. well, because of the heat of the moment and the stand your ground. he had a right to defend himself. if he felt threatened, then his life was going to be taken away from him or he was going to have bodily harm, he had a right. >> it is important that you follow the law, spelled out in these instructions. >> that's how we read the law. that's how we got to the point of everybody being not guilty. >> we, the jury, find george zimmerman not guilty. so say we all, foreperson. >> how has this been for you? i mean, how was making that decision, when you all realized, okay, well, the last holdout
jury has decided, manslaughter, we can't hold george zimmerman to manslaughter, there's nothing we can really hold him to, not guilty. in that jury room, emotionally, what was that like? >> it was emotional to a point. but after we had put our vote in and the bailiff had taken our vote, that's when everybody started to cry. >> tell me about that. >> it was just hard. thinking that somebody lost their life, and there's nothing else could be done about it. i mean, it's what happened. it's sad. it's a tragedy this happened. but it happened. and i think, i think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves into. i think both of them could have walked away. it just didn't happen. >> it's still emotional for you? >> it is. it's very emotional. >> can you explain the emotion? >> it's just sad that we all had
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can you tell me, just a little bit about that last day in the jury room, deliberating? i mean, you went for so long. did you know you were close? >> we knew we were close. we knew we were close five hours before we got to where we were, because we were slowly making progress, the entire time. we didn't come to a stumbling block. we were just reading and reading and reading and reading and reading. and knew we were progressing. >> and did the jurors -- did you all get along well? was there conflict? was there -- how did the deliberation process -- how was being together this long? >> the deliberation was -- it was tough. we all, pretty much, get along. at times i thought, we might have a hung jury, because one of
them said they were going to leave. and we convinced them, though, you can't leave. you can't do this. you have been in this too long to walk out now. >> did you cry in that jury room? >> i cried after the verdict. i didn't cry out when they were reading the verdict out in the jury room, because we were all cries before when he went in. and then -- >> what do you mean, you were crying before you went in? >> well, we were in a separate room, when the foreman handed the bailiff our verdict. and then we were crying back there before we went into the jury room. so they gave us about 20 minutes to try and get everything together. >> what do you think you were crying about? >> the pressure. the pressure of all of it. and everything just kind of came to a head. because i kind of tried to keep everything out, emotionally out, during the whole process, and then it just flooded in after it was done. >> we, the jury, find george
zimmerman not guilty. >> did you realize how big this trial had become? >> i had no clue. no clue, whatsoever. >> did it make sense to you that it had -- that there was this much attention on it? >> it didn't to me, because i didn't see it as a racial thing. i saw it as a murder case, as a second-degree murder case. it was just unbelievable that it had gotten so big and so political -- not really political. i don't want to say that, but so emotional for everybody involved. and i never would have thought, when we went over to the hotel to get all the stuff from the hotel, we went over to the hotel, and the parking lot was just a regular parking lot. by the time we came out, it looked like disney world. there was media, there were police, there were -- and it really kind of started to sink in. we went to get our stuff, and
then the state police showed up, because they were going to be our escorts home. >> are you scared now? >> i'm not scared, i don't know how to say it. >> you clearly don't want people to see your face. >> no, but i don't want anybody else around me to be affected by anyone else. i'm, i'm not really scared, but i want to be cautious, if that makes any sense. >> that's understandable. >> yeah. >> but you want people to know -- why did you want to speak? >> i want people to know that we put everything into everything to get this verdict. we didn't -- we didn't just go in there and say, we're going to come in here and just do guilty/not guilty. we thought about it for hours and cried over it afterwards.
i don't think any of us could ever do anything lake that ever again. >> do you feel sorry for trayvon martin? >> i feel sorry for both of them i feel sorry for trayvon and the situation he was in and i feel sorry for george because of the situation he got himself in. >> but you want people to know, and the reason you're speaking is, you want people to know how seriously you took this? >> i do. i don't want people to think that we didn't think about it and we didn't care about trayvon martin. because we did. we're very sad that it happened to him. >> and you want his family to know that as well? >> i do. and i feel bad that we can't give them the verdict that they wanted, but legally, we could not do that. >> when you lay your head tonight on the pillow, in your
heart and in your head, you are 100% convinced that george zimmerman, in taking out his gun and pulling the trigger, did nothing wrong? >> i'm 101%, that he was -- that he should have done what he did, except for the things that he did before. that's not the way i wanted to say it. >> you mean, he shouldn't have gotten out of the car. he shouldn't have pursued trayvon martin, but in the final analysis, in the final struggle -- >> when the end came the end -- >> he was justified? >> he was justified in shooting trayvon martin. >> after that interview first aired monday night, four jurors released a statement, saying the opinions of juror b-37, quote, were her own and not in any way representative of all the jurors. b-37 then sent to our program a statement that said, "for reasons of my own, i needed to speak alone. there will be no other interviews."
"my prayers are with all those who have the influence and powers to modify the laws with left me with no verdict option other than not guilty. no other family should be forced to endure what the martin family has >> it was racial. >> understand a combative teenager. >> you listening? i had told you, are you listening? >> if that's all you know about her, you've got to see this. >> what is your view of george zimmerman? >> weak. scary. >> rachel jeantel answers every question i put to her. she even answers questions from our studio audience. >> do you feel your testimony strongly impacted the case at all? >> yes.