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gave a very emotional commencement speech. gates is set to retire at the end of june. "cnn newsroom" continues right now withdrew griffin who's in for ali velshi. hey, drew. >> high, suzanne. we begin this hour with breaking news from the files of osama bin laden. was the world's most wanted terrorist trying to cut a deal? cut a deal with pakistan? the deal you protect us, we won't attack you. cnn pentagon correspondent chris lawrence has details on this. chris, if true, if true, this certainly would seem damning for the pakistani government to explain. >> that's right, drew. and this is really coming out of that treasure trove of intelligence that that s.e.a.l. assault team pulled out of osama bin laden's compound on the night that they killed him. what u.s. officials is telling us is that they have seen communications between osama bin laden and his operations commander laying out the possibility of approaching pakistani officials with a deal.
as you explain, basically saying we would not carry out any operations inside pakistan, and in return, you would allow us, our senior leaders, to exist and live here in pakistan without coming after us. the key here is that u.s. officials say at this point they don't see any evidence that al qaeda actually presented this plan to pakistani officials. right now all they have is that it atears to be an internal discussion. >> cnn got immediate reaction from the u.s. ambassador. let's listen to what he said about this. >> you can think of many things of wanting to do them and so did osama bin laden. question is did he raise it with anyone and the u.s. government clearly says that he did not. it was something that he and his associates were considering among themselves. so if we knew something about it we would have done something about it long ago. >> so absolute denial there from the pakistani government here,
at least in the u.s. chris, any more details on to whom osama bin laden may have been reaching out to in the pakistani government or even a branch of that government? >> nothing specific right now. what this was was apparently a communication between osama bin laden and his operations chief. this is the role in al qaeda, sort of the liaison, the operations chief is the one who sort of reaches out to some of the operatives in the field. he would be sort of the point of contact. but at this point we don't have any information on exactly who they may have decided to try to approach. but again, there was so much intelligence that was taken out of there, they're still in the process of going through that. so this is what we know right now. it wasn't the first revelation to come out of that intelligence, probably won't be the last either. >> chris, you're reporting that the u.s. officials or investigators are going to be going back into that compound? that would be the first time
since the raid, correct? >> exactly. the seals were in there 40 minutes in the compound. probably only half that time was spent searching it and going through it and they still came out with all of that material. then the pakistani government, their officials, went in and took some things out. now what you're going to see is a cia forensic team. so think of sort of a csi type investigation but on a much broader international scale in which they can go in and look for things that perhaps you would not see with the nak eye, using perhaps infrared cameras to look behind walls to see if anything was embedded in the walls, anything was buried. we know osama bin laden and the people who lived there burned a lot of their trash instead of taking it out. cia may have the capability to even look at fragments to pull information off of things that were burned. there's a lot of things that maybe the naked eye won't see but say swabbing certain parts of the compound for dna could help tell you who was there.
>> to the layperson it did sound silly a month after the fact they are going back in there to look for even more evidence that the s.e.a.l.s obviously missed in their haste to get out alive, but also that the pakistani government didn't uncover. what you're explaining to us is that there may be some scientific ways to produce even more evidence coming out of there. >> exactly. and the thing about intelligence is, you get one piece of intelligence that may lead them in one direction, but then you get another piece of intelligence and that can either validate the first piece, or send them off in a different direction. so sometimes what they already have, they're already starting to go through that, looking at names, things like that. they may be able to pull some more information that either says, well this particular name or this particular place is something we need to look at, or they may get something that says, that's not worth looking at any more. so the more they get, the more they can build on that intelligence that the s.e.a.l.s pulled out of there. >> chris lawrence at the
pentagon, thanks, chris. the secretary of state sees u.s.-pakistani relations at a turning point, that's a quote, from hillary clinton. she and joint chiefs chairman mike mullen met face to face today with pakistani leaders in the highest level u.s. visit since the bin laden take-down. not many smiles there, nor in clinton's solo news conference that she held afterward. >> today we discussed in even greater detail cooperation to disrupt, dismantle and defeat al qaeda and to drive them from pakistan and the region. we will do our part, and we look to the government of pakistan to take decisive steps in the days ahead. >> we also have a new poll we want to share with you -- only 16% of americans have a favorable view of pakistan. 81% unfavorable view. that number is five points higher than it was in 2009. in serbia, a judge has ruled
former bosnian serb commander radco mladic is fit enough to be extradited to the united nations war crimes tribunal. the ruling comes after five doctors examined mladic last night. the decision clears the way for him to face charges at the hague for genocide and crimes against humanity. mladic's son says his father needs to be sent to a hospital, not a courtroom. >> he's spoken for the first time in many years. he's in very bad shape. his health is very deteriorated. >> after hiding for more than 15 years, mladic was arrested yesterday. he's currently in jail near belgrade for overseeing europe's worst massacre since world war ii. mladic is expected to appeal that ruling. he has until monday. back in the u.s., paypal suing google over its digital wallet saying that google stole paypal's employees and its
ideas. this comes on the same day google unveiled its highly anticipated mobile payment system called the google wallet. the lawsuit accuses google and two former paypal employees, who now work for google, of using paypal's trade secrets. before this, google had been negotiating with paypal to provide the payment system for google's android app store. google has not yet responded to this lawsuit. in atlanta, hundreds of patients and 100 employees at a prominent hospital have been exposed to tuberculosis. a hospital spokesman says a staff member at emeory universiy hospital unintentionally exposed 680 patients to tb between november and february. the hospital says the employee was unaware he had the infectious lung disease until he was diagnosed in april. the georgia department of community health and the hospital began notified people this week, they're testing people who have been exposed. so far nobody reporting any
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this next story begins with the clock that's now appearing on your screen. keep an eye on it. watch those seconds, minutes, tick by. frightening details are emerging from the crash of air france flight 447 two years ago. according to an official french report, there was a failure of the plane's air speed sensors which led to a high-altitude stall. in thr3 minutes 30 seconds, it plummeted to the ocean. throughout that brief time the crew struggled with conflicting speed readings, all 228 people on-board were killed. richard quest has been reviewing the report by france's bureau of investigation and analysis and joins us from london. richard, a frightening scenario
that was played out today in terms of this report. >> yes, we now know, drew, what actually happened and the sequence of events and how it played out. i'm going to show you exactly. flight 447 was in the air and moving across. well, it's some particularly coal weather. the tubes at the front of the plane suddenly started to give incorrect readings, they iced up. that led to the disengagement of the auto pilot and auto throttle, and various other systems in the cockpit. what happened then is that the nose started to rise, and the plane's speed pled away. in fact, it went down, according to some, well under 100 knots. the significance of this is, at one particular point they did manage to rescue the plane, but still the speed indicators were not necessarily accurate.
what happened then? the plane goes into a further increase of attack, and now we have a classic stall. and this of course is nothing to do with the engines, it's where the air flow overthe wing becomes so disrupted because of the low speed that the plane literally has no momentum and it falls out of the sky. the angle of attack was 45 degrees on the wing. the pitch of the aircraft was 16 degrees. what this means is that at that moment and looking at the clock, we're still only 2:12 into this horror. for the next three minutes or so this plane falls out of the sky. and it continues to fall and it continues to fall in this configuration. all the way to the ocean. it lands at virtually belly-flops. the core question that everybody is going to ask tonight is, why
did the pilot continue to keep the nose-up position. why was the plane like that. traditional classic theory says, in a stall, you push the nose down, you build the speed over the wings. that did not happen here. and if there are any questions that will probably never be answered, drew, that is it. now i'm sure aviation experts watching me tonight -- now will say, well, he's forgotten this and he's forgotten that, but i promise you, having read the report, the gist of it is, the plane fell out of the sky. we've still got 15 second from what those passengers went through. >> so all the time we are talking, those passengers were falling, and most likely from what i'm reading, knew it. richard, what about the tubes? have they been a problem in the past? and is there any information that air france may have delayed maintenance, delayed replacing these tubes? is there anything pointing
towards the tubes themselves? >> yes. we know that there were problems with the tubes. and we know that they were going to be replaced, and we know that there had been issues. but, drew, you've got to separate -- you've got to separate -- the issue with the pito tubes with the response of the cockpit crew. you know, losing your pito tubes at altitude is by no means desirable or acceptable, but it does happen, they do freeze up. the sensors in the cockpit -- they knew they'd lost their indicators. that's the point they knew they had problems with it. they are known, is why they continued with that profile of the aircraft. >> just real quickly, does air france train their pilots to come out of these stalls by pointing the nose down, picking up the air speed? >> well, are you talking about a high-altitude stall. the only thing i can tell you is both airbus, air france and a
lot of other airlines have now very much put high-altitude stall procedures on the quick reference list, better training, and all those sort of areas. the high-altitude stall is now very much on the agenda. >> richard quest, we thank you so much for that two years later finally learning what happened with this plane. richard, thanks a lot. now a developing story concerning your health. we want to update you about a major xlin cal trial studying heart disease is ending more than a year early. why? because it appeared to be doing more harm than good. the trial aimed to prove patients would have fewer heart attacks and strokes if they took niacin, a b vitamin, plus a staten drug. the opposite happened. the federally funded study looked at more than 3,400 high-risk patients. ultimately, this is about hdl, the good cholesterol, versus ldl, bad cholesterol which can clog arteries. previous research showed heart attacks and strokes dropped when patients lowered their bad
cholesterol with staten drugs. but what would happen if you added to that equation by increasing the levels of good cholesterol with niacin? this trial was the next big advance. the thinking was if you keep bad cholesterol low and increase good cholesterol the result would be fewer heart attacks and strokes. one of the patients took the statin drug zocor and the other half zocor plus niacin. the report showed niacin failed to cut their risk of heart attacks and strokes and researchers found more patients taking both were having strokes so they put a stop to the five-year trial a year-and-a-ha year-and-a-half ahead of the scheduled completion. heart disease and stroke the leading cause of death right now in the u.s. vacation time just around the corner for a lot of us but many americans feel guilty about taking their earned time off? up next, see how we compare to other countries. you'll probably be surprised. maybe you won't be. [ female announcer ] experience dual-action power,
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you have remorse about taking that earned time off compared to other countries like spain, uk and france. america lags behind in the amount of vacation that's given to employees. that's the topic being debated in today's "your money." >> richard, i got a story specifically for you here because it is a real treat to have you here working as opposed to on one of those several vacations you take. americans are not savers but we are work holics, a survey from expedia.com shows not only do americans get less vacation than everyone, they seem to take less vacation than they get. what's going on with the rest of the world? are they just lazy? >> no, stop that now, ali. reverse the question. what's wrong in the united states? you are arc archaic, medieval the way people get two weeks vacation, and then even feel guilty about taking it.
ask any ceo do you want a workforce that is rested, engaged and focus. then ask them how do you expect people to do that? if you let them have ten days vacation a year. yes, ali, in this room behind me, everybody gets up to five weeks vacation, including national holidays, paid. don't do that! don't do that. >> my word, as you would say! that's smashing. you know what? i think it is time for us to just gang up on christine. you're british. christine and i are both canadian. rules in canada very liberal in terms of vacation. >> as the token american on this panel, i'd like to say we love to work in this country. we really do. but there are some some animanat san jose people don't want to spend the money on a vacation. they could stay home and take the day off. they found they don't really have the money to spend to go away so they might as well be working. >> the other thing that's interesting to me about
americans and leisure is that the rich work as hard or harder than the poor. it is not just about money, it is people at the very top are working some of the longest hours. >> they love to work. >> richard, seems like you're just lazy. >> well, but there is something presbyterian about it all. in america you do feel that you have to earn your vacation. and only after you've been there for good news knows how many years, and even then you're terrified that the boss might notice. look, one thing i've noticed having been to france and italy and spain where people denigrate their work ethic. but the fact is, their productivity is very high. they just don't do work for work sake. so if they don't have to be in the office at 7:00 a.m. so it looks good to the boss and they go home at 6:00 because the work is finished and they don't feel oblinled ged to make it just se if they're working every hour. how many of us around this table now has answered an e-mail between the hours of 11:00 and midnight? >> ali's doing it right now. >> yes, of course!
>> all right, richard, you win. we're all taking a vacation after this show is over. >> join christine romans fonr "your bottom line" and "your money" with ali velshi. we want you to join the conversation on our social media question today. a new poll shows only 57% of americans use up all their vacation days. so we want to know, do you take vacations? and if you don't, why not? post your comments on our blog, cnn.com/ali. you can also post on ali's facebook and his twitter pages. president obama attended a two-day economic summit in france and is now in poland where defense issues are expected to top the agenda. ed henry will tell us what the president has been able to accomplish. he'd after the break. hi, ed. ♪
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president barack obama headed to poland today after wrapping up two days of meetings in france with other leaders of the world's top economic powers. senior white house correspondent ed henry joins me from warsaw, poland, which is the last stop on this six-day tour, ed. what's left? >> reporter: well, it's
interesting, he wants to reassure, as you were suggesting before the break, a key ally here in poland, that the u.s. is going to help them out and work with them. they're concerned about missile defense, for example, a plan that was developed in the bush administration, to put some sort of missile defense shield here in the region, protect poland. other key allies, against potentially iranian nuclear weapons. for example, russia has not been on-board with that because they fear a shield like that could be used for offensive weapons against them right in their neighborhood. so poland just wants to make sure that's worked out in a way favorable to them. the president interestingly wants something from poland. he's about to have dinner with the leaders from poland as well as other central eastern european countries and that is some help for egypt and tunisia. why? totally different region of the world. well, because poland and these other countries in this region went through some wrenching changes after the fall of the soviet union, after the fall of the berlin wall, tough transitions to democracy. and the president thinks maybe there's some lessons learned there to apply to the arab world
as well in the wake of this arab spring that was also obviously a big topic at the g-8 summit in france. >> let me ask you about that g-8 summit. there was a lot of big news made in the u.s. here over the last few days. i didn't see a whole lot of big news made out of the g-8. what did it accomplish? >> reporter: well, that's always a good question. i think you put your finger right on it, drew. often from covering a lot of these, it is a lot of talk and not a lot of action, a lot of pledges about what we might do over the next five or ten years. i think something concrete the white house would point to would be that the president and other key allies sort of rallied support to bring some economic aid to egypt and tunisia specifically. and that can be helpful because as you know, egypt, its economy was crushed in part because the tourism industry went south during the revolution. there were great things happening there but at the same time it crushed some of their industries. people were out of work for a long time. they're still picking up the pieces now, so that is an
important step. but at the end of the day, it's often a lot of talk at these summits and, frankly, not a lot of action. >> speaking of a lot of talk and not a lot of action, what about gadhafi? libya? i mean what's the plan there? is he getting more allies on-board? >> reporter: well, that is something where the white house thinks the president has gotten something concrete on the sidelines of the g-8 summit yesterday. he met with the russian president dmitry medvedev. you'll remember that russia when the u.n. security council debated whether or not to push forward with the military action in libya and provide that mandate, russia abstained. they were not supportive but they did not block that military action and they've been very skeptical of the continued u.s. presence in libya. the russian president told pro's now on board with gadhafi going. that's an important shift there but again there's talk, where's the action?
what is going to force him. he hasn't been forced out yet, he's been digging in. what the president and his aides are pointing to is some sort of political solution, could russia play a constructive role in finding some way to get gadhafi out, could they find exile for him someplace else, et cetera. we've heard this before, it's a lot of talk and we haven't seen it completed. but the president through every stop on this european tour is saying it will take patience and persistence to finally force gadhafi. >> everybody's on board except for one guy -- gadhafi. right? >> yeah. that's what they need, the key guy. he's not there. and military action alone has not done it. now they need some political movement as well. maybe russia can help there. >> ed, thanks. when is the president coming back? >> he's coming back saturday. interesting, he started this trip in ireland. lot of irish-americans who may play a key role in the 2012 election. probably a lot of polish-americans he's trying to reach out to for a little bit of pride and turnout in 2012 as well.
they never talk politics on these foreign trips but that may be a factor as well. >> ed, thanks a lot. well, facebook ceo mark zuckerburg, a butcher? he is when it comes to his diet, so he says. via facebook, of course. that in a minute. ale announcer ] in 2011, at&t is at work, building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience. from a single phone call to the most advanced data download, we're covering more people in more places than ever before in an effort to give you the best network possible. at&t. rethink possible.
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they say, with a semi-automatic rifle. investigators allege guereno who served in iraq, was involved in drug smuggling and gun smuggling. police found nothing illegal inside his home. in joplin, missouri today, the number of people missing from the massive tornado down from the 232 originally listed missing yesterday. 90 people have been located and found alive. missouri's deputy director of public safety says some new names will be added to the missing. emergency management crews are working around the clock to recover more victims. we now know why an air france flight plunged into the atlantic ocean two years ago. french investigators say pilots lost vital air speed data and plummeted 38,000 feet in under four minutes. information retrieved from the plane's data recorder shows the pilots got conflicting air speeds from the plane's speed sensors. a report by france's bureau of investigation says the pilots slowed down the plane instead
speeding it up and that move caused the plane to roll before stalling and literally falling from the sky. air france has replaced the speed sensors on its airbus fleet since that accident. facebook's mark zuckerburg is taking his diet apparently into his own hands. zuckerburg says he only eats meat from animals he kills. himself. he calls it new "personal challenge." it may sound odd, extreme, but the 27-year-old billionaire says he eats a lot of healthier meat and as a result, has learned about sustainable farming and raising animals. zuckerburg revealed his new goal on facebook, posting "i just killed a pig and a goat." the city has already banned happy meals. now comes a push in san francisco to ban circumcision? i'll talk to the man behind it next.
want to show you some live scenes. this is in poland now. our president with the polish president heading in just right now for a dinner. i hope they have a nice time, a good meal and a good talk tonight about all that ed henry was briefing us on as the president winds up his european trip, his last stop right there in poland. moving on with the news now, strange twist of circumcision. it is one of the most routinely performed surgical procedures in the u.s. some experts say removing the foreskin around the penis can help reduce the risks of cancer and aids. others say there's no medical reason for it. well, now comes a controversial proposal. san francisco. to make it illegal for anyone to circumcise a male under 18. as you can probably imagine, it's riled up some religious
leaders. i'm joined now by the man who's pushing the ban, lloyd skoe field. also joining me, rabbi schmuly. mr. schofield, why are you pushing this ban? >> it is to protect the right for men to protect themselves. when they become old enough, they can do it for religious reasons, for personal reasons, whatever they want to do. we want to put the power of control of what is done to men back into their own hands. this is not a necessary surgery. it's up to the individual to choose. it's a human right to have intact genitals unless you choose otherwise. >> parents' rights don't count? >> sure, the parents' rights
count. parents are very well intended. most of them have the best interests of their children involved. parents have not been given information, proper information, about the harm and problems caused by circumcision and the lack of benefits. and luckily they're catching on now and that's why the circumcision rate has dropped nationwide to below 33%. and believe me, a lot of jews have abandoned the practice a long time ago, that's why they've come up with an alternate ceremony, which does connect them to their religion and cultural heritage. >> rabbi, you buy that? >> you know, i always believe that san francisco is a live and let live city. i now see that it is a curious attachment to the male foreskin. the medical benefits of circumcision are so evident as to be undeniable. it significantly reduces the transmission of stds, especially hiv/aids. in fact, in africa, it would be
almost as effective as condoms were it to be widely practiced. it also is excellent for a woman, reduces the risk of cervical cancer by up to 20% because the human papilloma virus is transmitted under the foreskin. a circumcised penis is far more sensitive than an uncircumcised one. this is an attempt by radicalists -- >> mr. schofield, i mean tell you the truth, i just don't get it. what is the harm in a circumcision? >> the rabbi is talking as a doctor and he's not. he's a religious leader in a circumcision, a typical radical circumcision that's performed religiously and much more importantly medically today removes 50% of the foreskin of
the male genitals. first of all, the foreskin has to be ripped from the head of the penis. then 50% of the skin on the penis is removed. >> you know something, mr. schofield, this sounds an awful lot like the debate on abortion. should san francisco ban abortions? >> i'm just here to talk about circumcisions. >> yeah, but what's your take on that? >> the religion's on the one side and the other guy describing this terrible, you know, procedure on the other side. >> i'd like to focus on the medical issues that the rabbi brought up and i encourage anybody to look on the internet, check out these preliminary studies that do not reflect what he's saying whatsoever. they were all ended early because they actually increased the rate of hiv transmission to
men and to their female partners and it was only based on female-to-male transmission, not the other way around. and if women really want to be safe, they should move to europe and the baltic nations or even israel, because they have much lower incidences of hiv and sexually transmitted diseases compared to the united states. >> guys, i appreciate this discussion. this is obviously a passionth interest to both of you. i'm just floored that san francisco's going to vote on this. it is going to be interesting. >> i have had no opportunity to even respond. >> do you want to have one more response? >> yes, of course. >> let's try not to be too graphic. >> well, the medical benefits of circumcision are absolutely zblsh again, talking about the medical benefits. you're a rabbi, not a doctor. >> mr. schofield, i don't think you're a doctor either. >> the medical benefits of circumcision are so evident as
to be absolutely undeniable. google the center for prevention of disease. you can find some different studies. the fact is that the foreskin contains cells which allow the hiv virus to be transmitted into the human body. that's why it is undeniable benefits. this is nothing but an extreme radical attack on religion. >> thank you both very much. i think the bottom line here is you might want to ask your own doctor. but we'll see how this vote goes out and see whether or not this draws any attention at the polls. thank you both, very passionate discussion on this. well, few smiles, tough words. secretary of state hillary clinton in pakistan. did she help ease tensions with a key ally in the fight against the taliban and al qaeda? right after this. at&t is at wor, building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity, and investing billions of dollars to improve your wireless network experience. from a single phone call
just a man that loves savings... and pie. out there with a better way. now, that's progressive. rnlts a. a new development this hour that can further strain relations between the u.s. and pakistan. a source says that osama bin laden considered seeking a deal with pakistan to protect him and senior al qaeda leaders. a source says so far no evidence surfaced indicating bin laden ever discussed that plan with pakistani officials. the information discovered from documents seized when bin laden was killed earlier this month. pakistan's ambassador to the u.s. had this reaction just a short while ago. >> you can think of many things of wanting to do them and so did osama bin laden. question is, did he raise it with anyone and the u.s. government clearly says that he
did not. it was something that he an his associates were considering amongst themselves. if we knew something about it, we would have done something about it long ago. >> the issue of bin laden hiding out in pakistan was the backdrop to a brief visit there today by secretary of state hillary clinton and joint chiefs chairman admiral mike mullen. stan grant is in islamabad with the latest. >> reporter: frank and candid. that was the description of these talks here between hillary clinton and the top leadership in pakistan. the secretary of state came here with a simple message -- the united states puts a lot of money into pakistan, billions of dollars every year, and wants more of a return on that investment. what they're looking for is for pakistan to go even harder against the insurgents to break up any al qaeda cells and to also clamp down on the pakistan-afghanistan border. all of that to aid the u.s. effort in afghanistan as it looks to try to stabilize the country and draw down the number of troops. on the pakistan side, still a
lot of concerns about the secret raid that killed osama bin laden. pakistan says that violated its sovereignty. it is looking for more intelligence sharing, more of a commitment to cooperation from the united states and more joint efforts in the future. but at the same time, the government here is dealing with the rising tide of anti-americanism. many people pointing the finger at the united states and saying it is the u.s. presence in the region that's heightening the risks that pakistan is facing every day. they say that they are caught in the cross fire in the battle between the militants, the u.s. and the pakistani military and that thousands of pakistanis have died as a result of that. hillary clinton acknowledging the pakistan sacrifice but at the same time saying it is in the interests of both countries to get this relationship back on an even footing. she says if they are able to bring about stability here, that will help in afghanistan and ultimately help with pakistan's security as well.
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to clean up the oil spill technology, and because the equipment is the same as used with the exxon "valdez" accident. and so we had the capital put up by wendy schmidt, and we nannam in her honor, and the top ten teams are going head-to-head this summer and the top three technologies that are demonstrated shell is taking them to the marketplace. so we go from complaining about a problem to actually bringing three technologies into the market in under 18 months which we are very proud of. >> great. great. great, i hope they work. to learn more about the x prize foundation, and -- i hope we don't need it -- and to learn more about the x prize foundation, head to the blog at cnn.com/ali, and we will link you up with the x prize facebook and twitter pages. great group of folks there. how unsettled is the gop presidential field? two of the three people at the
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i like him. and in today's poll it is rudy giuliani, and the former new york mayor has not said he is not running, so that makes him vaguely in the race at any rate. so he is now polling up there with mitt romney followed by sarah palin who also may or may not get in, and then ron paul who is really a perennial favorite inside of a certain faction of the political party. interestingly, take giuliani out of the race and pretend he is not going to run and we have no indication he will, and romney picks up, you will see him at 19 points and palin picking up a lit tle at 15 percentage points and ron paul at 13 percentage points, but basically, if i take away the big take of the poll, it is an unsettled poll. in the end, the republicans are not sure about anybody, and not overly enthusiastic about anybody, but this kind of thing takes a while to shake down.
every time a party trying to get into power looks at the field, they say, oh, no, not any of these guys and they settle down and pick one and everybody gets enthusiastic and since we are on 2012 and mitt romney not officially in the race, everyone assuming he will be, but he will be next week. what is interesting is that he has chosen to do it in new hampshire and this is big announcement number two this year for the former governor of massachusetts and next door to massachusetts and new hampshire, and he will make the announcement in new hampshire and leading a lot of people to believe he will switch up from his 2004 campaign when he played in both iowa and new hampshire, and looks like he will focus more heavily in new hampshire this year, drew. >> and candy, one question, why? why would he focus in new hampshire for those of us who don't study this stuff? >> well, first, you always lack for money, and second of all, iowa is a very kind of
convoluted and the caucuses are con troe lut convoluted and he spent a lot of time there last time and it did not payoff for him. and in new hampshire, you can stop people, and new hampshire and iowa are looked at closely, but in new hampshire, you make a big play there and win it, you are in it going into south carolina. >> thank you, candy. look forward to your show this week. >> thank you. and the next story coming from the files of osama bin laden. an overture to pakistan, you protect us, and we won't attack you. pentagon correspondent chris lawrence has the details. chris, what do we know about this? and the real question is how far did this go? >> right now, bottom line, drew, is u.s. officials say they don't have any evidence that al qaeda actually proposed this to pakistani officials. in other words, right now all they have evidence of is an
internal discussion among al qaeda leadership including osama bin laden, and how did they get this information? american agents have been poring over those documents that came out of osama bin laden's compound, and in going through some of the documents, they found communication between bin laden and his operations chief in which they talked about possibly proposing a deal to pakistan in which al qaeda would agree not to attack pakistan, and pakistan would agree to sort of look the other way, and allow senior al qaeda leaders to live there in pakistan and base their operations there. >> it is just even interesting that the osama bin laden would consider this perhaps with his level of comfort in pakistan believed him to consider this. pakistani ambassador, chris strongly denying it, and he told suzanne malveaux here on cnn about 90 minutes ago, look, there was no offer made. listen to what he said. >> you can think of many things
of wanting to do them, and so do osama bin laden. question is, did he raise it with anyone? and the u.s. government clearly says he did not. it was something that he and his associates were considering amongst themselves, so if we knew something about it, we would have done something about it long ago. >> there is some movement on cooperation between these two governments, chris. you're reporting that u.s. officials, and i guess cia experts are going to go into the bin laden compound for the first time since they took bin laden out of there. >> exactly. drew, think of this sort of like a csi, a special forensic team that is going to try to go back into the compound and look for things that you necessarily wouldn't catch with the human eye. the s.e.a.l.s got out of there with a lot of stuff, but they were only in there for 40 minutes and spent half of that time actually looking for the compound for intelligence information and then the pakistani officials went into
the compound and took things out as well, and now the cia will send the investigators in with perhaps different technology and infrared cameras to look behind walls to see if anything was stashed there and perhaps ways to look at some of the papers or the things that were burned in the trash to see if they can pick out certain things and reconstruct certain things from those burns. also, even just swabbing certain parts of the compound for dna if they are able to match that within a database could tell you possibly who was at the compound and who came to visit. so, all of those things wouldn't necessarily be something that a team would be able to look at and find with their naked eye in 20 minutes in the middle of the night, but it is things that the forensic team may be able to pick up. >> chris, is the timing of this? do you know this? is it happens now or weeks from now? >> don't know exact timing, but we expect it to happen sometime within the week. when you look at the big
picture, even though there is a tremendous amount of tension between u.s. and pakistan and the intelligent agencies especially after pakistan revealed the identity of the islamabad station chief, and the order to reduce the military trainers in pakistan, but today, in pakistan, a senior u.s. administration official said, look, we asked for access to bin laden's wives, and we got it. we asked to get our stealth helicopter back, and they got it back and it is back in the u.s., and now they have asked for granted to the bin laden compound itself, so there is at least a willingness for the pakistan's intelligence service and the cia to form some sort of working relationship going forward. >> chris lawrence at the pentagon. thank you, chris. now, to a war that predates the war on terror. and hunting down drug smugglers and drug dealers and drug producers is dangerous, but being on the other end of a s.w.a.t. team drug raid is
dangerous, too. case in point, a 26-year-old marine, veteran who was gun downed in his home in arizona under circumstances that you might find disturbing. the pima county sheriff's department suspected four homes in the suburbs of tucson were part of a smuggling operation, and it stormed the home of one of those, jose gerrina and his wife vanessa, and police banged on the door and kicked it in and then fired. at first they said that guerrina gestured at them, and they fired at him. officers fired more than 70 times and hit him more than 20. afterward, nothing illegal was found in that family's home. the officers involved remain on active duty, and his widow has hired a lawyer. she has not taken any legal action to date. i want to get some insights from sunny hostin who is a legal
analyst from "in session" our sister network on trutv. apparently the deputies had a search warrant and announced the arrival, and then stormed the home. >> yes, they need a search warrant, and the fourth amendment protects your home from unlawful searches and seizures. they did have a warrant, and you have to knock and announce, and in certain states there is a certain amount of time before you burst in. if all of the procedures were followed then the search warrant and the subsequent search were appropriate. in this case, we don't know whether or not the search warrant was based on faulty information, and clearly this marine with his young son and his wife in the home was not the target of this investigation, and appears that the facts got mixed up, but the police department is not issuing a lot of this information, so we really don't know what went on, but we do know, drew, that of course, nothing was found here.
this was an ex-marine who served loyalty to his country, and he is now dead. his wife and two children without a father. >> sunny, i don't know if you have been on these raids, but i have been on some of the raids, and you know, the police show up, and they are dressed in the s.w.a.t. gear, and pounding and yelling and sometimes it is hard to determine who they are and if they are police, and i imagine that the soldier inside might have had some confusion going on. >> certainly felt that he was under attack, and i have had the opportunity, drushgs whew, when federal prosecutor the do a ride-in and sit there with agents who did this sort of search, and it is hectic and confusing and unsafe for people to be around. so i can only imagine that he certainly was armed. i am sure that he had the right to have this arm. and i am sure he felt that he was protecting his child and his wife, but what we have learned is that he told them to hide in the closet.
at the very end of a dark hallway, so you can only imagine what was going through his mind when this was transpiring. >> and sunny, can the police just shoot him? they barge into his home, and this guy obviously picked up a weapon and he was legally entitled to have in his home, and do the police have the ability to just kill him legally? >> well, that is a tough question, and certainly when police are forced or faced rather with this type of situation, they do have the authority to protect themselves, and to secure a situation. the fact that they -- and i'm not saying they lied, but they say that he fired on them and he did not, and the safety in fact was on the weapon leads me to believe that there was so much confusion going on that perhaps someone thought that he was armed and ready to fire and they fired on him. depending upon what the facts of the situation are as we learn more about these events, it is
quite possible that the actions will be found to have been legale. >> sunny, that is a case we will be following and another case we are following and you are follow is this rm casey anthony mucase trial in florida. what is going on there? >> well, good day for the prosecution, and one word, two words simon burch. he is witness 20. he is the person who has testified that he smelled death emanating from casey anthony's trunk from her car. this is very, very crucial to the prosecution, because they are claiming under their theory that casey anthony killed her daughter intentionally and then placed her body in the trunk of her car and abandoned that car. this is the first witness, drew, who testified to the smell of death in the car. what is so very interesting about this witness is that he has experience with the smell of death versus the smell of garbage which is what the defense theory is, that this was
not death but garbage. this non-witness expert has experience in the odors, and he is saying no question about it, this is the odor of death. very, very important day for the prosecution. >> good prosecutor, sunny. you answered my question right away, did he have any experience with. this i appreciate it, sunny hostin, and you can follow the casey anthony trial throughout the day on our sister network hln. well, an iraqi war veteran and one of the victims pulled from the rubble of a home depot and hit by a tornado in joplin, missouri, and you will hear from his widow who is frustrated of getting his body released from the morgue. ♪ intellichoice proclaims that lexus has the best overall value of any brand. ♪ and j.d. power and associates ranks lexus the highest in customer satisfaction. no wonder more people have chosen lexus over any other luxury brand
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some families in joplin, missouri, still waiting to learn the fate of their loved ones. the list of missing is down to 156 down fr 132 down from 156 yesterday. and so we are learning casey wian, families are frustrated with the process of identifying the dead. >> yes, imagine losing a husband and father to one of the worst tornadoes in u.s. history and imagine that pain amplified by the fact that you can't even bury your loved one. >> reporter: hours after the tornado struck joplin, missouri, we met a distraught 17-year-old
andrea osborne outside of a demolished home depot. >> my uncle and my dad are in there and i'm praying to god they are okay. >> reporter: when is the last time you heard from them? >> before the tornado hit. >> reporter: her dad is iraq war veteran dan osborne was shopping with a close family friend and took refuge in the home depot when the tornado approached. osborne and his wife had just celebrated their 11th anniversary. she waited outside of home depot all day. i can't imagine what that wait must have been like? >> torturous, and then having to leave with nothing was really disappointing. it was really devastating. >> reporter: dennis and his friend's bodies were found inside of the store rubble tuesday. >> i had people telling me that he was helping people to the back of the storm shelter. that, when he was found, he was found covering a body to protect them from debris.
he was being a soldier. that is what he does. i just want him back. >> reporter: dennis was preparing to leave for germany for army reserve training next month. >> god didn't take him in iraq, so why did he take him now? >> reporter: adding to the trauma, her town was flooded and her car destroyed and now she can't plan a funeral for her husband. >> they are not releasing any bodies, and they are telling us that they are having to do some investigation of possibly autopsies. please, let us have our spouses, our children. we need closure. and they need to be laid to peace. this needs to be over. >> reporter: beginning today, some families are being allowed into the morgue to identify and begin the process of collecting
the remains of their loved ones, but only if they can provide very, very specific identifying physical information such as description of a tattoo, and the wait goes on as officials try to establish identification to a 100% certainty, and also to establish the cause of death. drew? >> casey, is this family allowed to go into the morgue today? h. >> we don't know that. they have not received word as of yet that they will be allowed into the morgue. they are just waiting. they are getting some help they say though from the military to try to speed up the process, and waiting to hear from them when they are going to be allowed to collect the remains of their loved one. >> casey, thank you a lot. is that raining there, casey? is that what we are seeing behind you? >> not right now very hard, but you missed five minutes ago or ten minutes ago a flurry of a hailstorm and strong winds and hail pelting us. we are not expecting any tornado activity as a result of the
storm cell moving through here, but it just another example of the difficulty of the people going through the wreckage here are encountering. the weather has been bad at times, and we just had another example of it a few minutes ago, drew. >> so heartbreaking to see. thank you, casey. tune in tomorrow night as cnn shows you how in mere minutes large portions of the city of joplin, missouri, were reduced to rubble. a twister's fury, in the path of destruction airs tomorrow at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. another development happening in missouri, one that is totally different. jared loughner has been moved to a facility in missouri, and we have had that confirmed here from a source for cnn. this is the man responsible for the shooting of the congresswoman gabrielle giffords in tucson, arizona, competency hearing, and now he is moved to a federal facility in springfield, missouri.
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these military widows have given me life again and shown me how far i have come until one day another widow will come along and they will be the one who is going to change that widow's life, and that is pretty amazing. >> pretty amazing indeed. davis' organization has connected with nearly 800 of those through her online community and retreats. remember, every cnn hero is chosen by people who tell us about them. to nominate someone who is making a big difference in your community go to cnnheroes.com. checking the top stories now. osama bin laden considered reaching out to pakistan for protection for al qaeda leaders. a u.s. source telling us that this possibility was discovered in the documents seized in the raid that killed bin laden earlier in the month. the officials say that there is no idea that the idea was discussed with pakistan. and tli people killed in storms that pounded the metro area in georgia. they died when the trees were
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much. heavier showers to the east of atlanta, and now east of augusta as well down to jacksonville, and the heaviest shower activity, and we talked aboutp j, kansas, or, no, joplin, missouri, there. and it has hail coming down in the last half hour. that obviously is not making people happy there when they have to dig through stuff in a hailstorm and hail event as well. here we go for the rest of the day. the showers and the thunderstorms are up the east coast and a couple in the plains here and cool across the middle part of the country and northern part of the country and a warm couple of days, and really, it will be warm in the southeast and to northeast and midwest for this beautiful coming up memorial day weekend. >> and now you are cueing the "way off of the radar." because they is way off, and they don't have radars in space, do they? >> no, i don't think so, and i don't believe, so and i don't think that the iss would have a radar, but it would be cool if it had one to see the space junk coming. wouldn't that be neat?
well, the vlt which sounds like veal, lettuce and tomato, but this is a large telescope in the anaconda desert in chile, and this is something cool that you will see all day, and you can gone to youtube and vlt and this is high-def time lapse, and this is -- >> what is that? >> these are big time telescopes and that is why they are called v large telescopes in the desert, and there is not much atmosphere or humidity or cloud cover here, and big ders earser hardly rains here. and you can look at the stars and you can go on the look at it yourself, because it is a eig - eight-minute time lapse, and you can see the galaxy, and even if you get away from the space or the lights of the city and stuff like that, but other than that, this is some cool, cool stuff, and we have found on youtube and coming from nasa and all of that
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loughner has been moved to a federal hospital in springfield, missouri, and he is expected to spend four months undergoing mental evaluations. this comes after a judge ruled wednesday he is not competent to stand trial right now for the mass shooting that killed six people and wounded congresswoman gabrielle giffords in january. in arizona, a decorated marine is killed ed ied in flu bullets in a drug raid. internal investigation shows he did not fire a shot, and the gun's safety mechanism was not unlocked. the pima county sheriff's department released the details following an internal investigation. they say that the marine gestured at the s.w.a.t. team with a semi automatic rifle, and then this s.w.a.t. team unleashed 70 bullets killing him with the family nearby. the family says that he served in iraq, but he is alleged to have participated in human and drug smuggling, but the police found nothing illegal in his
home. >> some signs of recovery in joplin, missouri. the number of people missing from the tornado is down from jed. authorities and families confirmed that 90 people on the missing list survived, but more than 150 people are still unaccounted for. emergency management crews are working around the clock to recover more victims and the death toll at 132. and we now know why an air france flight plunged into the atlantic ocean two years ago. french investigators say that the pilots lost vital air speed and plunged 100 feet in 30 seconds. the information from the data recorder say that it got air speeds from the sensors. a report from the france's bureau of investigation say that the pilots slowed down the plane instead of speeding it up which caused the plane to roll and then stalling and literally falling from the sky.
air france has replaced the speed sensors on the airbus fleet since that accident. facebook's mark zuckerburg is taking his diet into his own hands. he says he eats meat from the animals he kills himself. he revealed this goal on facebook, and posting i just killed a pig and a goat. may sound odd and extreme, but the 27-year-old says he eats a lot healthier as a result and he doesn't take food for granted. a few smiles and tough words. secretary of state hillary clinton in pakistan, and did she help to ease tensions with a key ally in the fight against the taliban and al qaeda? we will find out after this.
for himself and senior al qaeda le leaders. here to talk about it is michael holmes. just the fact that he thought he could talk about it with pakistani officials is interesting to me. >> exactly, no, it is. and of course, this came after the raid, and they picked up all of the documents there at his house where he had been hiding out all of this time, and some of the documents indicate that he had been in touch with his own lieutenants to raise the idea of doing a deal with pakistan. we won't attack pakistan as long as they leave us alone. extraordinary idea, but there is no evidence that it actually went any further than that, and the pakistani officials knew about it, and they of course they didn'tb, and the u.s. is playing it down saying it was musings, but yeah, extraordinary news. >> and here in the u.s., people are saying, look, we don't trust the pakistan government and we don't want to give them anymore money, and the pakistan government is saying we don't trust the u.s. coming here to pull off the military raids. >> yes, you heard the pakistan
president saying it was an act of war to do it, and he said that obama is being arrogant in his attitude towards pakistan. and hillary clinton being an attempt to smooth it over, but she offered a bit of an olive branch by saying that we don't believe that senior people in the pakistan administration knew that osama bin laden was there, and also saying that they need and the u.s. need to do more to battle the islamist threat there. one thing that is interesting is that she did express frustration at the rampant anti-americanism that does exist in pakistan, and the fact that no one in pakistan seems to realize that the u.s. is the biggest donor of aid to pakistan. they have, nobody there seems to realize it. it is the third biggest recipient. >> and i think that the pakistan government realizes that which is why they are over there shaking hands in the first place. >> they need the u.s., they do. but this is frosty at the moment. >> but we are not getting anywhere near close to the answer of anyone at the level of the pakistan government knew obl
was there? >> no, they have investigations going, and the u.s. has suspicions, but the isi, their secret cia-like, they knew that they were active in hiding him all along and active in hiding senior members of the taliban as well who are living pretty fairly open in pakistan. there is suspicion that the isi at some levels and some people within the isi are involved, but not an official level, no. >> i just point to that, because you have been to pakistan, right? >> yes. >> and they know everything about you. >> they sure do. >> they know what you had for dinner, and when you arrive, so it seems inconceivable. >> yes, it does. but the isi is a strange beast and they operate independently of the government for years and years and you have to remember that the military is all powerful as well, and it is pretty much the situation to let the civilian government run it, but the military is behind it, and the isi is running its own show. and doing a lot of deals with
the groups who are now blowing up pakistanis. >> complicated situation. let me talk to you about the air france crash. you know the speed sensors don't work and clas thak tsic that ths went up instead of down. >> and the big question is why did they do that? and the problem is that once they ice up, and in all indication of the speed, the temptation or the danger is to either too fast or too slow, and then then the plane plummets, but with this 16 degree angle with the nose up, and when the stall happened, basically went to the ocean backwards. at that incredible rate of 11,000 feet per minute, and took 3 1/2 minutes to go down. >> and so from the french investigation, no indication of why the pilots did exactly what you were not supposed to do? >> and you have to remember that there is first report and probably three reports, and it won't be until the end of the
year that we have some sort of official report. at the moment, you don't want to leap and say it is pilot error and leap and say, it is this or that. what we have here is data, and the data raises questions. we are getting information, but it is not the final report. it is still a fair way to go, and they had something like 1,300 bits of information to go flu out of the boxes. >> yes, i want to ask you real quick about yemen, because that situation is appearing to be worse? >> it does. what is happening is demonstrating the tribal nature of yemen. few countries more tribal than yemen. what we are seeing outside of the capitals and we saw a big tribe there in the one area about 35ks outside of the capital clashing with the government forces and took over some government buildings including military buildings and they have sent in fighters to bomb their own buildings because these guys are in there and what it shows is that president saleh
has fought for 35 years and done a good job to navigate the complex tribal society, and it is over. they have one by one turned against him. it is extraordinary that he is till there now, but he can't last for long. >> and the bigger question in yemen and libya and in the tribal societies, without a strong man, quote, unquote, ruler, it is governable at all? >> this is the problem we are seeing now. the opposition, that if you want to call it that, it is, itself, a fractured group with big ideas and saleh, himself has warned about this, if he goes all of the competing diverse interests are all going to say, well, we want to run it, we want to run it, and al qaeda is already there in the country, and they can step in and have a role and the place could go the chaos very, very easily. yemen is that kind of place. already the poorest region in the country and in the world. >> michael holmes, when is your next vacation? >> i have a wedding in new york
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time off. according to a new poll by reuters, 57% of americans did not take all of their vacation time. let's talk about why. we will check out the numbers from career builder.com, and 25% say they cannot afford to take time off. 12% of you can't foot the bill for a trip out of town, so you don't go. and so when you add up the numbers to 37% of americans won't take a vacation this year, that is more than one-third of the people in the country. talking about how much vacation time we all get. according to the survey by expedia.com, americans get on average 18 days of vacation every year, and we only use 14 of them. and we aren't even close to the top of the list when it comes to the amount of time that we get off. let me show you what they do in the united kingdom. 28 days of vacation on average every year and twice as much here in the states. they use almost all of their vacation, and normally leaving only three days leftover.
seriously, if you want to really live, check out france. 37 days of vacation every year. and france on average, they use all but two of those days every year. so that the moral of the story is to use your vacation time, and even if you are sitting on your keister on your porch with your dog and kids, go on vacation, relax, take it easy. you will feel better at work. so we want to know, do you take vacations and if not, why not? post your comments on our cnn.com/ali site. is ali on vacation today? no, he is apparently working, ali. should parents behind on the child support payments have car tags revoked or cars impounded? our stream team will tackle this topic after the break. maybe you didn't hear. but dimes, nickels, even pennies have power now.
credit bureau or refuse hunting or fishing licenses, but some of the enforcement laws affect the way parents get around. some states are revoking car tags or impounding cars or ask that the u.s. state department deny that passport, so while nobody can deny the importance of obtaining child support past payments, and do some of the measures have a negative effect. do some of these contribute to a person losing their job and income apparently worsening the problem. joining us is lisa bloom who is author of "straight talk for women" and how to think straight in a dumbed down world. and also we have glenn zach who is executive director of fathers and family, and district attorney, let me begin with you, and your county targeting parents by letting them lose their tags, and why have is you come up with this idea?
>> well, we have a very serious problem in not just dekalb county, but through the state of georgia and the nation, and that problem is parents not paying child support. if you are looking at the facts, we are not dealing with parents that are just a few days late in our instance where we are looking at parents who have not paid inasmuch as two years or never. and it is time for that to stop and parents to support their children. >> so this is a last resort for the truly dead beats and try to hit them at the car? >> in is a last resort. we have gone through a amnesty days and hauling the people to court, and gone through calling their homes and bringing them down and trying to set up payment plans, and they just absolutely will not pay. and children need support. >> glenn, is that a good idea to go after their cars? >> well, i agree with robert, let's look at the facts. the facts are very clear. overwhelming majority of the
parents are not dead beat, but dead broke. federal government's own research shows before the recession over 2/3 of the people behind on the child support earned poverty-level wages. and since the recession, it is worse because the courts and the child support agencies are very, very slow to give fathers and mothers who are behind on the child support downward modification, so you have people who are forced to pay child support on an income they haven't earned in a year, and when they can't afford it, they are then called dead beats and publicly humiliated by progrms like this. and a program like this even for the people who are, you know, trying their best, perhaps trying to work, and trying to get jobs and whatever, you are taking away their transportation and making it harder for them. you mentioned earlier -- >> hold on. lisa -- hold on. lisa, excuse me, sir. i can't believe that the people that the district attorney are going after are trying their best, but i want to ask you if
you think that this is the right route, because potentially, you take away somebody's job and somebody's car, you could take away their way to get to a job, so they might pay in the future, and what is your thought on this? >> that is right. look, children need love and support and attention, but they also need money. children need shoes and food and tuition, and so child support is very important. i support wage garnishments and tax liens, but i don't support this particular proposal, because it doesn't make sense to make it more difficult for a parent to get to work, and in most places in the country, you need a car to get to work. we need to help them to get to work and help them earn a income and garnish the wages to pay the other parent, and that is a much more effective way of supporting the kids. >> mr. district attorney, can you without naming a name, give me an idea of the person you are going after and whether or not he fits into this category of somebody he is really trying to find a job or get work, but he just can't because of the circumstances? >> certainly. we have one parent in particular
that is $104,000 behind, and that parent has never paid child support. we have offered that parent amnesty on three different, during three different years. we have made phone calls. we have tried to work things out. we have hauled that parent into court. he is -- >> and does that parent have the and to pay? >> yes. yet that parent can pay for gas in their car, which at this point unfortunately, if you have a suv is up to $100 -- >> and hold on, sir. let's let the district attorney talk and then you can. >> and in georgia, we have an extremely expensive tax so that that person can pay that tax and pay a lot of money and they can do anything they want, but when it comes to supporting the child, they refuse to do so. so frankly, if you are not using the money from the employment to pay for your child, then i don't have a problem interrupting or compromising that employment. >> and glenn, say what you want,
but hey, man, take a bus and pay up for your kid. >> the fact is that these guys can scrounger up money to pay for the gas is not the same. this gentleman says he has a dead beat parent list and i have been looking at the lists all over the country, and states and counties and for years and years and you never find anybody on the list who has a decent job, but they are day laborers or cashiers or roofers who owe these fantastic sums of money and we are supposed to believe are wealthy guys who ran out on the kids and now have the trophy wife and the porche. there is no evidence that these guys do. >> and wait, day laborers and roofers who are supporting their families, sir. i don't think that just because you are poor, you cannot support the family. >> and what about the single mom? what about the mothers who are also working lower level jobs, and we are also supporting our families, and it does not matter
if you are working as a cashier or laborer or whatever you are doing, you have to support the child, because if the child grows up in a one-parent house home with low income, they are not getting the support they need. >> and thank you all so much. interesting conconversation, ane will get a lot generated on the web and the social media for this. thanks for coming. and how do the republicans feel about the current crop of candidates? and what is that crop by the way? paul steinhauser joins us with a new cnn poll next. you inspired a very special dog food. [ female announcer ] chef michael's canine creations. chef inspired. dog desired.
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