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hello, and welcome to a new year of the programme which brings together bbc specialists with foreign correspondents who write, blog and broadcast to audiences back home from the dateline: london. this week, joining us — jef mcallister, us broadcaster this week bringing peasant versus extremism in faith, politics and health. this week, joining us — jef mcallister, us broadcaster and international lawyer. ashis ray, who's been explaining the british to indians for almost half a century now. and in the studio, damian grammaticus, who's been based in delhi,
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beijing and brussels for the bbc, and who's now at westminster. will come to you all and happy new year. covid pragmatism — is that the new�*s year resolution adopted by some world leaders? in the uk, faced with the highly infectious variant of covid, omicron, borisjohnson has resisted imposing fresh restrictions in england. this despite a wave of staff absences, including one hospital — derriford in devon — which had 500 of its employees absent on a single day. instead, 100,000 workers in key sectors, such as energy, will be required to self—test every day. keeping the lights on. in australia, it seems to be a case of protecting key sporting events. 0rso it or so it seemed a few days ago. novak djokovic, something of a vaccine sceptic, will, after all, be defending his title at tennis�*s australian open this month after being given a medical exemption. but then there was outrage at the medical exemption he had been granted and now as we speak he is in a hotel quarantine facing the
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prospect of deportation unless his legal challenge is successful. china, of course, goes its own way. yuzhou, in the central province of henan, a city of 1.1 million people, has been locked down. three people are infected. china notwithstanding, is this year looking like the year we are going to learn to live with covid? my looking like the year we are going to learn to live with covid?- to learn to live with covid? my be ve earl to learn to live with covid? my be very early to _ to learn to live with covid? my be very early to say _ to learn to live with covid? my be very early to say that _ to learn to live with covid? my be very early to say that actually, . very early to say that actually, i'm sorry to say and start the new year off on a low note. what we are seeing in the uk at the minute is this sort of lowered tiers of restrictions at the minute which are brought in just before christmas for this 0micron wave came in this highly dresses will vary and the government here it is a thing going further than that. partly i think because ideologically it does not want to impose restrictions if it does not have to but also politically borisjohnson had problems before christmas just ringing in the work from home rules and the covid pass need to get into
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big events through his own party. so he is holding back and ask what you've seen is a health service under real pressure here. this wave might pass but what is the next way going to look like and crucially talking about a bigger little picture, this is in a population in the uk which is highly vaccinated already, has a large degree of protection. the real question for living with covid is all those other countries around the world that do not have that vaccine protection at the minute and need vaccines spread around the world to reduce the level of covid circulating and therefore also the chances of new variants coming back again.— also the chances of new variants coming back again. listen about that auestion of coming back again. listen about that question of vaccination _ coming back again. listen about that question of vaccination because - coming back again. listen about that question of vaccination because it. question of vaccination because it has not gone away in over a year since we have talked about it. staying with the uk for the moment, one in 15 according to the office of national statistics are thought to have been affected about a week ago. are we getting to the point would be
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like it or not probably because vaccination has been so successful we may really see herd immunity as a way out of this pandemic? at least for this country. tao way out of this pandemic? at least for this country.— for this country. too early to be that hopeful. _ for this country. too early to be that hopeful. you _ for this country. too early to be that hopeful. you need - for this country. too early to be that hopeful. you need to - for this country. too early to be that hopeful. you need to get l for this country. too early to be | that hopeful. you need to get to i think_ that hopeful. you need to get to i think 80% — that hopeful. you need to get to i think 80% or so of combined it previously— think 80% or so of combined it previously infected and vaccination to be _ previously infected and vaccination to be able — previously infected and vaccination to be able to get to a kind of herd immunity. the fact that this new omicron — immunity. the fact that this new omicron variant has been so successful in spreading, not as successful_ successful in spreading, not as successful in spreading, not as successful in killing, indicates that whatever herd is in existence really _ that whatever herd is in existence really is _ that whatever herd is in existence really is not that effective. it does — really is not that effective. it does very _ really is not that effective. it does vary in the nice thing about it and i_ does vary in the nice thing about it and i think— does vary in the nice thing about it and i think there is some thought among _ and i think there is some thought among virologists is that viruses tend _ among virologists is that viruses tend to — among virologists is that viruses tend to become more transmissible and less_ tend to become more transmissible and less lethal as more variants go on. and less lethal as more variants go on that _ and less lethal as more variants go on that is — and less lethal as more variants go on. that isjust not inevitable but a frequently seen trend, and sol
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think— a frequently seen trend, and sol think we — a frequently seen trend, and sol think we have to hope that this is all going — think we have to hope that this is all going to be around us but not so debilitating both to human beings and two _ debilitating both to human beings and two economies, and that seems to be what _ and two economies, and that seems to be what is _ and two economies, and that seems to be what is happening. it is not as bad as— be what is happening. it is not as bad as it was a year ago. let�*s be what is happening. it is not as bad as it was a year ago. let's pick u . bad as it was a year ago. let's pick u- what bad as it was a year ago. let's pick up what damien _ bad as it was a year ago. let's pick up what damien was _ bad as it was a year ago. let's pick up what damien was saying - bad as it was a year ago. let's pick up what damien was saying about | bad as it was a year ago. let's pick. up what damien was saying about the problem be it's all very well for us in north america, in parts of europe and some of the wealthy parts of the middle east and so want to say i'm all right, jack and went to using this expression but the reality is everybody has told us for the beginning of this that if you don't vaccinate everyone, then no one is really truthfully protected. the serum institute in india was one of those places where vaccine production took off and vaccine numbers have been good in india notwithstanding its north population. do you see any hope of that for the developing world? i that for the developing world? i think the situation is really desperate _
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think the situation is really desperate in _ think the situation is really desperate in africa. - think the situation is really desperate in africa. in- think the situation is really. desperate in africa. in india, think the situation is really- desperate in africa. in india, given its vast _ desperate in africa. in india, given its vast population, _ desperate in africa. in india, given its vast population, i— desperate in africa. in india, given its vast population, i think - desperate in africa. in india, given its vast population, i think is - desperate in africa. in india, given its vast population, i think is a - its vast population, i think is a major— its vast population, i think is a major challenge. _ its vast population, i think is a major challenge. so, - its vast population, i think is a major challenge. so, india- its vast population, i think is a major challenge. so, india is. its vast population, i think is a . major challenge. so, india is still in the _ major challenge. so, india is still in the process— major challenge. so, india is still in the process of— major challenge. so, india is still in the process of completing - major challenge. so, india is still in the process of completing its i in the process of completing its second — in the process of completing its second dose _ in the process of completing its second dose of— in the process of completing its second dose of the _ in the process of completing its second dose of the vaccine. - in the process of completing its second dose of the vaccine. it i in the process of completing its i second dose of the vaccine. it still has, _ second dose of the vaccine. it still has, i_ second dose of the vaccine. it still has, ithink— second dose of the vaccine. it still has, i think about _ second dose of the vaccine. it still has, i think about half— second dose of the vaccine. it still has, i think about half of - second dose of the vaccine. it still has, i think about half of its - has, i think about half of its population— has, i think about half of its population to _ has, i think about half of its population to be _ has, i think about half of its population to be given - has, i think about half of its population to be given the i has, i think about half of its - population to be given the second vaccine, _ population to be given the second vaccine, so — population to be given the second vaccine, so at _ population to be given the second vaccine, so at that _ population to be given the second vaccine, so at that i— population to be given the second vaccine, so at that i think - vaccine, so at that i think does pose _ vaccine, so at that i think does pose a — vaccine, so at that i think does pose a challenge, _ vaccine, so at that i think does pose a challenge, the - vaccine, so at that i think does pose a challenge, the sheer. vaccine, so at that i think does i pose a challenge, the sheer size vaccine, so at that i think does - pose a challenge, the sheer size and population. — pose a challenge, the sheer size and population. but— pose a challenge, the sheer size and population. but i_ pose a challenge, the sheer size and population, but i think— pose a challenge, the sheer size and population, but i think the _ pose a challenge, the sheer size and population, but i think the problem. population, but i think the problem is greater— population, but i think the problem is greater in— population, but i think the problem is greater in the _ population, but i think the problem is greater in the lower— population, but i think the problem is greater in the lower income - is greater in the lower income countries _ is greater in the lower income countries and _ is greater in the lower income countries. and that's - is greater in the lower income countries. and that's where l is greater in the lower income countries. and that's where ii is greater in the lower income - countries. and that's where i think some _ countries. and that's where i think some kind — countries. and that's where i think some kind of— countries. and that's where i think some kind of equality— countries. and that's where i think some kind of equality needs - countries. and that's where i think some kind of equality needs to - countries. and that's where i think some kind of equality needs to be| some kind of equality needs to be achieved — some kind of equality needs to be achieved because _ some kind of equality needs to be achieved because the _ some kind of equality needs to be achieved because the first - some kind of equality needs to be achieved because the first world l achieved because the first world having _ achieved because the first world having it — achieved because the first world having it and _ achieved because the first world having it and the _ achieved because the first world having it and the third _ achieved because the first world having it and the third world - achieved because the first world . having it and the third world having it is not— having it and the third world having it is not a _ having it and the third world having it is not a solution. _ having it and the third world having it is not a solution. there _ having it and the third world having it is not a solution. there has- having it and the third world having it is not a solution. there has to - it is not a solution. there has to be some — it is not a solution. there has to be some kind _ it is not a solution. there has to be some kind of— it is not a solution. there has to be some kind of equality, - it is not a solution. there has to - be some kind of equality, otherwise this menace — be some kind of equality, otherwise this menace will— be some kind of equality, otherwise this menace will not _ be some kind of equality, otherwise this menace will not go _ be some kind of equality, otherwise this menace will not go away. - be some kind of equality, otherwise this menace will not go away. there is of course — this menace will not go away. there is of course this _ this menace will not go away. there is of course this race _ this menace will not go away. there is of course this race to _ this menace will not go away. there is of course this race to find - this menace will not go away. there is of course this race to find a - is of course this race to find a vaccine — is of course this race to find a vaccine which _ is of course this race to find a vaccine which is _ is of course this race to find a vaccine which is possibly- is of course this race to find a i vaccine which is possibly durable for at _ vaccine which is possibly durable for at least — vaccine which is possibly durable for at least one _ vaccine which is possibly durable for at least one year, _ vaccine which is possibly durable for at least one year, and - vaccine which is possibly durable for at least one year, and so- vaccine which is possibly durable| for at least one year, and so that you don't— for at least one year, and so that you don't have _ for at least one year, and so that you don't have to— for at least one year, and so that you don't have to administer- you don't have to administer a vaccine — you don't have to administer a vaccine every— you don't have to administer a vaccine every six _ you don't have to administer a vaccine every six months, - you don't have to administer a vaccine every six months, andj you don't have to administer a - vaccine every six months, and that is important —
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vaccine every six months, and that is important so— vaccine every six months, and that is important. so is— vaccine every six months, and that is important. so is either- vaccine every six months, and that is important. so is either going - vaccine every six months, and that is important. so is either going toi is important. so is either going to be such— is important. so is either going to be such a — is important. so is either going to be such a vaccine _ is important. so is either going to be such a vaccine like _ is important. so is either going to be such a vaccine like a _ is important. so is either going to be such a vaccine like a flu - is important. so is either going to| be such a vaccine like a flu vaccine or maybe — be such a vaccine like a flu vaccine or maybe a — be such a vaccine like a flu vaccine or maybe a medicine _ be such a vaccine like a flu vaccine or maybe a medicine which - be such a vaccine like a flu vaccine or maybe a medicine which would i be such a vaccine like a flu vaccine . or maybe a medicine which would be definitive _ or maybe a medicine which would be definitive. �* ., �* , ., definitive. both the british and the united states _ definitive. both the british and the united states seem _ definitive. both the british and the united states seem to _ definitive. both the british and the united states seem to be - definitive. both the british and the | united states seem to be struggling with a shortage of testing equipment and particularly for those of administered lateral flow tests the test people are most familiar with, those of of them. what if the body administration tried to do about that? it administration tried to do about that? ., , ., ., . ., , that? it has announced that it is bu in: that? it has announced that it is buying 500 _ that? it has announced that it is buying 500 million _ that? it has announced that it is buying 500 million and - that? it has announced that it is buying 500 million and will- that? it has announced that it is buying 500 million and will be l buying 500 million and will be disturbing them, but they were obviously— disturbing them, but they were obviously caught little by surprise try obviously caught little by surprise by the _ obviously caught little by surprise by the failure of the vaccine to do as much— by the failure of the vaccine to do as much of— by the failure of the vaccine to do as much of a job as they anticipated and joe _ as much of a job as they anticipated and joe biden complained that donald trump _ and joe biden complained that donald trump not done a very good job of tests and — trump not done a very good job of tests and they look like they have not done a — tests and they look like they have not done a greatjob either. the contracts— not done a greatjob either. the contracts are now being led. a parent— contracts are now being led. a parent or— contracts are now being led. a parent or there are some dozens of new tests. — parent or there are some dozens of new tests, lateral flow type quick tests _ new tests, lateral flow type quick tests now. — new tests, lateral flow type quick tests now, available for production
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and it— tests now, available for production and it is— tests now, available for production and it is wrapping up. the people who are — and it is wrapping up. the people who are on — and it is wrapping up. the people who are onjoe biden positive transition _ who are onjoe biden positive transition team have said they need more _ transition team have said they need more than _ transition team have said they need more than 500 million and if that they also— more than 500 million and if that they also need vaccine passports and they also need vaccine passports and they need _ they also need vaccine passports and they need to have a closer link between — they need to have a closer link between reports of getting infected and getting the antiviral drugs for people _ and getting the antiviral drugs for people most likely to go into the hospitai~ — people most likely to go into the hospital. and that combined will be enough. _ hospital. and that combined will be enough, but even the people who were so pathetic— enough, but even the people who were so pathetic tojoe biden enough, but even the people who were so pathetic to joe biden are worried that a _ so pathetic to joe biden are worried that a public health efforts are kind of— that a public health efforts are kind of ragged and need a boost and a witt— kind of ragged and need a boost and a will have _ kind of ragged and need a boost and a will have to listen to that or he is going — a will have to listen to that or he is going to — a will have to listen to that or he is going to bear the political brunt and the _ is going to bear the political brunt and the health brought economic brunt~ _ and the health brought economic brunt. ., . ., ., ., , ., ~ brunt. how much damage do you think the novak djokovic— brunt. how much damage do you think the novak djokovic route _ brunt. how much damage do you think the novak djokovic route and - the novak djokovic route and evolving as an employer who is understanding she is pretty much giving up and is giving home, how much is this damaging australia do you think a particular the government which seems to have kind of taken it into reviews on this
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before the public row kicked up it appeared to be quite relaxed about it coming. appeared to be quite relaxed about it comin:. , ., ., ~ it coming. first of all, i think novak djokovic— it coming. first of all, i think novak djokovic is _ it coming. first of all, i think novak djokovic is a - it coming. first of all, i think. novak djokovic is a marvellous tennis— novak djokovic is a marvellous tennis player— novak djokovic is a marvellous tennis player and _ novak djokovic is a marvellous tennis player and my— novak djokovic is a marvellous tennis player and my money. novak djokovic is a marvellous - tennis player and my money would be on him _ tennis player and my money would be on him to— tennis player and my money would be on him to go— tennis player and my money would be on him to go past— tennis player and my money would be on him to go past roger— tennis player and my money would be on him to go past roger federer- tennis player and my money would be on him to go past roger federer andl on him to go past roger federer and rafaei— on him to go past roger federer and rafael and to — on him to go past roger federer and rafael and to take _ on him to go past roger federer and rafael and to take 21 _ on him to go past roger federer and rafael and to take 21 grand - on him to go past roger federer and rafael and to take 21 grand slam - rafael and to take 21 grand slam tities, _ rafael and to take 21 grand slam tities, they— rafael and to take 21 grand slam titles, they are _ rafael and to take 21 grand slam titles, they are all— rafael and to take 21 grand slam titles, they are all level - rafael and to take 21 grand slam titles, they are all level in - rafael and to take 21 grand slam titles, they are all level in 20 - rafael and to take 21 grand slam titles, they are all level in 20 asl titles, they are all level in 20 as you know. — titles, they are all level in 20 as you know. but _ titles, they are all level in 20 as you know, but having _ titles, they are all level in 20 as you know, but having said - titles, they are all level in 20 as you know, but having said that. titles, they are all level in 20 as you know, but having said that ij you know, but having said that i think it's — you know, but having said that i think it's important _ you know, but having said that i think it's important to _ you know, but having said that i think it's important to say- you know, but having said that i think it's important to say that i j think it's important to say that i do not — think it's important to say that i do not sympathise _ think it's important to say that i do not sympathise with - think it's important to say that i do not sympathise with his- think it's important to say that i . do not sympathise with his stance think it's important to say that i - do not sympathise with his stance on vaccines~ _ do not sympathise with his stance on vaccines~ now— do not sympathise with his stance on vaccines. now there _ do not sympathise with his stance on vaccines. now there is _ do not sympathise with his stance on vaccines. now there is of _ do not sympathise with his stance on vaccines. now there is of course - do not sympathise with his stance on vaccines. now there is of course a i vaccines. now there is of course a confusion, — vaccines. now there is of course a confusion, the _ vaccines. now there is of course a confusion, the confusion - vaccines. now there is of course a confusion, the confusion being - vaccines. now there is of course a l confusion, the confusion being from what i _ confusion, the confusion being from what i can— confusion, the confusion being from what i can make _ confusion, the confusion being from what i can make out eight _ confusion, the confusion being from what i can make out eight circular. what i can make out eight circular that was— what i can make out eight circular that was sent _ what i can make out eight circular that was sent out _ what i can make out eight circular that was sent out by _ what i can make out eight circular that was sent out by the - what i can make out eight circularl that was sent out by the australian open _ that was sent out by the australian open authorities— that was sent out by the australian open authorities to _ that was sent out by the australian open authorities to say _ that was sent out by the australian open authorities to say that - that was sent out by the australian| open authorities to say that anyone who has— open authorities to say that anyone who has had — open authorities to say that anyone who has had covid—19— open authorities to say that anyone who has had covid—19in_ open authorities to say that anyone who has had covid—19 in the - open authorities to say that anyone who has had covid—19 in the past. open authorities to say that anyone i who has had covid—19 in the past six months. _ who has had covid—19 in the past six months. in — who has had covid—19 in the past six months, in other— who has had covid—19 in the past six months, in other words— who has had covid—19 in the past six months, in other words from - who has had covid—19 in the past six months, in other words from the - who has had covid—19 in the past sixl months, in other words from the slst ofjuiy_ months, in other words from the slst ofjuiy onwards. _ months, in other words from the slst ofjuly onwards, was _ months, in other words from the slst ofjuly onwards, was exempt - months, in other words from the slst ofjuly onwards, was exempt in - months, in other words from the 315t| ofjuly onwards, was exempt in terms ofjuly onwards, was exempt in terms of taking _ ofjuly onwards, was exempt in terms of taking a _ ofjuly onwards, was exempt in terms of taking a vaccine. _ ofjuly onwards, was exempt in terms of taking a vaccine. and _ ofjuly onwards, was exempt in terms of taking a vaccine. and then - ofjuly onwards, was exempt in terms of taking a vaccine. and then of- of taking a vaccine. and then of course — of taking a vaccine. and then of course when _ of taking a vaccine. and then of course when he _ of taking a vaccine. and then of course when he arrives - of taking a vaccine. and then of course when he arrives in - of taking a vaccine. and then of- course when he arrives in australia, he is _ course when he arrives in australia, he is stopped — course when he arrives in australia, he is stopped because _ course when he arrives in australia, he is stopped because the - he is stopped because the authorities— he is stopped because the authorities feel— he is stopped because the authorities feel that- he is stopped because the authorities feel that he i he is stopped because the - authorities feel that he should have taken _
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authorities feel that he should have taken his— authorities feel that he should have taken his vaccinations. _ authorities feel that he should have taken his vaccinations. this - authorities feel that he should have taken his vaccinations. this will - taken his vaccinations. this will not be — taken his vaccinations. this will not be resolved, _ taken his vaccinations. this will not be resolved, i— taken his vaccinations. this will not be resolved, i dare - taken his vaccinations. this will not be resolved, i dare say, - taken his vaccinations. this will. not be resolved, i dare say, until monday— not be resolved, i dare say, until monday but— not be resolved, i dare say, until monday but it's _ not be resolved, i dare say, until monday but it's unpleasant. - not be resolved, i dare say, until monday but it's unpleasant. i- not be resolved, i dare say, until. monday but it's unpleasant. i don't like it— monday but it's unpleasant. i don't like it shows — monday but it's unpleasant. i don't like it shows australia _ monday but it's unpleasant. i don't like it shows australia and - like it shows australia and pa rticuia riy _ like it shows australia and particularly consistent - like it shows australia and l particularly consistent light, like it shows australia and - particularly consistent light, but at the _ particularly consistent light, but at the same _ particularly consistent light, but at the same time _ particularly consistent light, but at the same time i— particularly consistent light, but at the same time i do _ particularly consistent light, but at the same time i do not - particularly consistent light, but - at the same time i do not sympathise with djokovic — at the same time i do not sympathise with djokovic he _ at the same time i do not sympathise with djokovic. he is— at the same time i do not sympathise with djokovic. he is not— at the same time i do not sympathise with djokovic. he is not set— at the same time i do not sympathise with djokovic. he is not set a - at the same time i do not sympathise with djokovic. he is not set a very- with djokovic. he is not set a very good _ with djokovic. he is not set a very good example _ with djokovic. he is not set a very good example since _ with djokovic. he is not set a very good example since the _ with djokovic. he is not set a very good example since the outbreakl with djokovic. he is not set a very. good example since the outbreak of covid-i9~ _ good example since the outbreak of covid-19. . , , , ., ., covid-19. that brings us to china, which of course _ covid-19. that brings us to china, which of course has _ covid-19. that brings us to china, which of course has an _ covid-19. that brings us to china, l which of course has an international sport bigger than the offering up with little bits coming up. they seem to have taken what one might call the old austrian approach which is locked in the moment you see any sign of anything. is locked in the moment you see any sign of anything-— sign of anything. that's when the chinese approach _ sign of anything. that's when the chinese approach is _ sign of anything. that's when the chinese approach is zero - sign of anything. that's when the chinese approach is zero covid. l sign of anything. that's when the i chinese approach is zero covid. has it been effective? it _ chinese approach is zero covid. has it been effective? it has _ chinese approach is zero covid. has it been effective? it has been - chinese approach is zero covid. has it been effective? it has been in - it been effective? it has been in china. it been effective? it has been in china- it's _ it been effective? it has been in china. it's now— it been effective? it has been in china. it's now 11 _ it been effective? it has been in china. it's now 11 months - it been effective? it has been in china. it's now 11 months since. china. it's now 11 months since china. it's now 11 months since china have recorded a death from covid within china. and very, very low cases, but that comes at a very high cost, and the cost we are seeing is these lockdowns that china
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imposes on as soon as there is a can of an outbreak and there is masters and giving him spot it. so this we have the city with a .1 million people, three cases, not the demented people identified through testing and the whole city and lockdown. in the city of xian as big london has been in lockdown since before christmas and that is 13 many people confined to their homes. again for a small number of cases. there is a biggest outbreak they have had since wuhan, about 108, 18 orso have had since wuhan, about 108, 18 or so the minute plus 40,000 people move the quarantine. but it's costly in it xian. the difficulty now the ability of the government locally to keep this people fat and people needing to get out and get medical treatment and there was a case just in the last few days of a woman trying to get to hospital, the hospital staff would not let her in because she did not have a negative covid test it was valid on her self and she had a miscarriage and lost
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her baby. that's related on social media and an elderly man did not get in the hospital in time and died and there is now a criticism circulating that what is the cost of this lockdown was meant when there are very few deaths. the pressures of starting to mount there and i think can china continue this but particularly with the omicron variant now. this was worked with the less traceable variant and difficulty in china is it the more tractable one gets in and starts to spread, because the chinese vaccines, the testing and the minute seems to show that the chinese vaccines that they used on the population may not be very effective against the omicron variant, in of the need of a vaccine and that can be every difficulty.— the need of a vaccine and that can be every difficulty. thank you very much. on christmas day, the bbc reported the reopening of a church in india—administered kashmir, shut since violence in the muslim—majority state more than 30 years ago. as worshippers said their prayers
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in haryana, a state controlled by the bjp, the hindu nationalist party which also provides india's government, a life—size statute ofjesus was desecrated. it was not an isolated incident. some even accused christians of using santa claus and the distribution of presents to children as a tool of conversion. hostility towards muslim indians has become depressingly routine in the country's public life. congress, the main opposition party which suposedly stands for a non—sectarian democracy, is too enfeebled to raise much protest. can you give us examples of the sort of things indian christians are having to endure at the moment and is there any indication that this is kind of state—sponsored or state influence in any way? kind of state-sponsored or state influence in any way?— kind of state-sponsored or state influence in any way? what i will sa is influence in any way? what i will say is that _ influence in any way? what i will say is that the _ influence in any way? what i will say is that the state _ influence in any way? what i will say is that the state has - influence in any way? what i will say is that the state has been i say is that the state has been siient — say is that the state has been silent and _ say is that the state has been silent and in _ say is that the state has been silent and in fact _ say is that the state has been silent and in fact means - say is that the state has been silent and in fact means thatl silent and in fact means that they condone — silent and in fact means that they condone it— silent and in fact means that they condone it then _ silent and in fact means that they condone it then that's _ silent and in fact means that they condone it then that's what - silent and in fact means that they condone it then that's what it - condone it then that's what it means — condone it then that's what it means it _ condone it then that's what it means. it certainly _ condone it then that's what it means. it certainly has - condone it then that's what it means. it certainly has beenl condone it then that's what it - means. it certainly has been very rarely— means. it certainly has been very rarely condemning _ means. it certainly has been very rarely condemning these - means. it certainly has been very rarely condemning these acts. i means. it certainly has been very- rarely condemning these acts. these have been— rarely condemning these acts. these have been steadily _ rarely condemning these acts. these have been steadily happening - rarely condemning these acts. these have been steadily happening for- have been steadily happening for quite _ have been steadily happening for quite some — have been steadily happening for quite some time _ have been steadily happening for
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quite some time in— have been steadily happening for quite some time in one - have been steadily happening for quite some time in one state - have been steadily happening for. quite some time in one state alone, the state. _ quite some time in one state alone, the state, there _ quite some time in one state alone, the state, there have _ quite some time in one state alone, the state, there have been - quite some time in one state alone, the state, there have been 40 - quite some time in one state alone, the state, there have been 40 suchl the state, there have been 40 such attacks— the state, there have been 40 such attacks on— the state, there have been 40 such attacks on christians _ the state, there have been 40 such attacks on christians in _ the state, there have been 40 such attacks on christians in 2021 - the state, there have been 40 such attacks on christians in 2021 alone. j attacks on christians in 2021 alone. so over— attacks on christians in 2021 alone. so over and above, _ attacks on christians in 2021 alone. so over and above, there _ attacks on christians in 2021 alone. so over and above, there is - attacks on christians in 2021 alone. so over and above, there is this. so over and above, there is this spate _ so over and above, there is this spate of— so over and above, there is this spate of legislation _ so over and above, there is this spate of legislation in _ so over and above, there is this spate of legislation in the - so over and above, there is thisj spate of legislation in the ruling party— spate of legislation in the ruling party bj — spate of legislation in the ruling party bj pete _ spate of legislation in the ruling party bj pete run— spate of legislation in the ruling party bj pete run states - spate of legislation in the ruling party bj pete run states such . spate of legislation in the ruling party bj pete run states such asj spate of legislation in the ruling - party bj pete run states such as how are you _ party bj pete run states such as how are you mentioned, _ party bj pete run states such as how are you mentioned, who _ party bj pete run states such as how are you mentioned, who darpa - party bj pete run states such as how are you mentioned, who darpa ——,| party bj pete run states such as how- are you mentioned, who darpa ——, and harmonica. _ are you mentioned, who darpa ——, and harmonica. where — are you mentioned, who darpa ——, and harmonica, where these _ are you mentioned, who darpa ——, and harmonica, where these legislations, i harmonica, where these legislations, so—called anti—conversion _ harmonica, where these legislations, so—called anti—conversion laws, - harmonica, where these legislations, so—called anti—conversion laws, are l so—called anti—conversion laws, are aimed _ so—called anti—conversion laws, are aimed at— so—called anti—conversion laws, are aimed at christians, _ so—called anti—conversion laws, are aimed at christians, in— so—called anti—conversion laws, are aimed at christians, in other- so—called anti—conversion laws, are aimed at christians, in other words| aimed at christians, in other words it's a _ aimed at christians, in other words it's a matter— aimed at christians, in other words it's a matter of— aimed at christians, in other words it's a matter of containment, - aimed at christians, in other words it's a matter of containment, is - aimed at christians, in other words it's a matter of containment, is a l it's a matter of containment, is a matter of— it's a matter of containment, is a matter of intimidation— it's a matter of containment, is a matter of intimidation and - it's a matter of containment, is a matter of intimidation and that's| matter of intimidation and that's exactly— matter of intimidation and that's exactly what _ matter of intimidation and that's exactiy what is _ matter of intimidation and that's exactly what is going _ matter of intimidation and that's exactly what is going on. - matter of intimidation and that's exactly what is going on. there i matter of intimidation and that's . exactly what is going on. there has been _ exactly what is going on. there has been this— exactly what is going on. there has been this spewing _ exactly what is going on. there has been this spewing of _ exactly what is going on. there has been this spewing of hate - exactly what is going on. there has been this spewing of hate and - been this spewing of hate and intoierance _ been this spewing of hate and intolerance by— been this spewing of hate and intolerance by the _ been this spewing of hate and intolerance by the ruling - been this spewing of hate and intolerance by the ruling bjpi been this spewing of hate and . intolerance by the ruling bjp with narendra — intolerance by the ruling bjp with narendra modi _ intolerance by the ruling bjp with narendra modi unfortunately- intolerance by the ruling bjp with i narendra modi unfortunately being the fountainhead _ narendra modi unfortunately being the fountainhead of— narendra modi unfortunately being the fountainhead of this _ narendra modi unfortunately being the fountainhead of this kind - narendra modi unfortunately being the fountainhead of this kind of. the fountainhead of this kind of sentiment~ _ the fountainhead of this kind of sentiment. and _ the fountainhead of this kind of sentiment. and this— the fountainhead of this kind of sentiment. and this has- the fountainhead of this kind of sentiment. and this has not- the fountainhead of this kind ofl sentiment. and this has not only affected —
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sentiment. and this has not only affected muslims, _ sentiment. and this has not only affected muslims, but _ sentiment. and this has not only affected muslims, but has - sentiment. and this has not only affected muslims, but has also l affected muslims, but has also affected — affected muslims, but has also affected christians _ affected muslims, but has also affected christians in— affected muslims, but has also affected christians in indeed i affected muslims, but has also affected christians in indeed it| affected christians in indeed it affects — affected christians in indeed it affects liberal— affected christians in indeed it affects liberal hindus, - affected christians in indeed it affects liberal hindus, sociallyj affects liberal hindus, socially discriminated _ affects liberal hindus, socially discriminated hindus- affects liberal hindus, socially discriminated hindus as - affects liberal hindus, socially discriminated hindus as well. i affects liberal hindus, socially . discriminated hindus as well. but these _ discriminated hindus as well. but these attacks _ discriminated hindus as well. but these attacks have _ discriminated hindus as well. but these attacks have been - discriminated hindus as well. but| these attacks have been mounted deliberately— these attacks have been mounted deliberately around _ these attacks have been mounted deliberately around christmas - these attacks have been mounted deliberately around christmas in i deliberately around christmas in order— deliberately around christmas in order to — deliberately around christmas in order to make _ deliberately around christmas in order to make christians- deliberately around christmas in order to make christians feel. order to make christians feel insecure _ order to make christians feel insecure and _ order to make christians feel insecure and they— order to make christians feel insecure and they have - order to make christians feel. insecure and they have certainly achieved — insecure and they have certainly achieved their— insecure and they have certainly achieved their objective. - insecure and they have certainly achieved their objective. there. insecure and they have certainlyl achieved their objective. there is one other— achieved their objective. there is one other thing _ achieved their objective. there is one other thing that— achieved their objective. there is one other thing that i— achieved their objective. there is one other thing that i should - one other thing that i should mention. _ one other thing that i should mention, which— one other thing that i should mention, which is— one other thing that i should mention, which is this, - one other thing that i should mention, which is this, thatl one other thing that i should i mention, which is this, that the nobel— mention, which is this, that the nobel prize _ mention, which is this, that the nobel prize winner— mention, which is this, that the nobel prize winner mother- mention, which is this, that the - nobel prize winner mother teresa's missionaries— nobel prize winner mother teresa's missionaries of— nobel prize winner mother teresa's missionaries of charity. _ nobel prize winner mother teresa's missionaries of charity. they - nobel prize winner mother teresa's missionaries of charity. they use i nobel prize winner mother teresa'sj missionaries of charity. they use to receive _ missionaries of charity. they use to receive funding _ missionaries of charity. they use to receive funding from _ missionaries of charity. they use to receive funding from all _ missionaries of charity. they use to receive funding from all over- missionaries of charity. they use to receive funding from all over the . receive funding from all over the world _ receive funding from all over the world because _ receive funding from all over the world because they— receive funding from all over the world because they have - receive funding from all over the world because they have been i receive funding from all over the - world because they have been doing extraordinary— world because they have been doing extraordinary work— world because they have been doing extraordinary work with _ world because they have been doing extraordinary work with the - world because they have been doing extraordinary work with the poor - world because they have been doingl extraordinary work with the poor and needy— extraordinary work with the poor and needy and _ extraordinary work with the poor and needy and destitute _ extraordinary work with the poor and needy and destitute in _ extraordinary work with the poor and needy and destitute in india. - extraordinary work with the poor and needy and destitute in india. but- needy and destitute in india. but that funding _ needy and destitute in india. but that funding has _ needy and destitute in india. but that funding has been _ needy and destitute in india. but that funding has been stopped . needy and destitute in india. butl that funding has been stopped by needy and destitute in india. but- that funding has been stopped by the government, — that funding has been stopped by the government, so— that funding has been stopped by the government, so that _ that funding has been stopped by the government, so that gives _ that funding has been stopped by the government, so that gives you - that funding has been stopped by the government, so that gives you a - government, so that gives you a picture _ government, so that gives you a picture of— government, so that gives you a picture of what _ government, so that gives you a picture of what is _ government, so that gives you a picture of what is going - government, so that gives you a picture of what is going on- government, so that gives you a picture of what is going on in- picture of what is going on in india at the _ picture of what is going on in india at the moment _ picture of what is going on in india at the moment.— picture of what is going on in india at the moment. , ., ., at the moment. there might be one of the reasons why _ at the moment. there might be one of the reasons why the _ at the moment. there might be one of the reasons why the us _ at the moment. there might be one of the reasons why the us commission i at the moment. there might be one of| the reasons why the us commission on international religious freedom recommended putting india on a rather some countries that commit
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serious violations of religious freedom. it is not least because there is a big indian diaspora in there is a big indian diaspora in the us becoming an issue a political issue there? i the us becoming an issue a political issue there?— issue there? i don't think it's become a — issue there? i don't think it's become a central _ issue there? i don't think it's become a central issue, - issue there? i don't think it's become a central issue, and| issue there? i don't think it's i become a central issue, and the state _ become a central issue, and the state department has not taken this advice _ state department has not taken this advice from this not official but officially — advice from this not official but officially constituted body to put india on — officially constituted body to put india on the red list because of course — india on the red list because of course india has a lot of important other_ course india has a lot of important other issues with the us, you political, _ other issues with the us, you political, economic and the joe biden— political, economic and the joe biden administration has understandably been skittish about taking _ understandably been skittish about taking them on in this way. but there _ taking them on in this way. but there really is not any doubt that these _ there really is not any doubt that these are — there really is not any doubt that these are extremely serious issues for india _ these are extremely serious issues for india and for a country like the us that _ for india and for a country like the us that believes in religious freedom and its width to be founded on it, _ freedom and its width to be founded on it. there — freedom and its width to be founded on it, there is going to be a point
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where _ on it, there is going to be a point where it becomes a public issue from the joe biden administration. we may not of— the joe biden administration. we may not of gotten there yet but i think we are heading in that direction. narendra — we are heading in that direction. narendra modi is involved with the pope visiting india and with this kind of backdrop that could make for a quieting visit assuming he accepted the invitation. but there will be some christians who will say hang on a minute, the vatican has not covered is of an glory with a lot of things become affordable china or christianity was suppressed for so long and a deal was done, a deal that not everybody thinks was a terribly good one. yes. deal that not everybody thinks was a terribly good one.— terribly good one. yes, so this is four years _ terribly good one. yes, so this is four years ago — terribly good one. yes, so this is four years ago now. _ terribly good one. yes, so this is four years ago now. so - terribly good one. yes, so this is four years ago now. so you - terribly good one. yes, so this is four years ago now. so you have | terribly good one. yes, so this is - four years ago now. so you have the chinese communist party, who tolerate religion. religious freedom is still religious freedom violated in china and if you try and practice outside state control, there is serious control and repression there. but tolerated cam of the
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state wants to try and co—opt and tolerate some of the religions... and is quite keen to control the jewels of bishops and things like that. ., . , jewels of bishops and things like that. . . , . jewels of bishops and things like that. .. , ., ., , jewels of bishops and things like that. , ., .,, .,, jewels of bishops and things like that. , ., ., that. exactly and the pope has a different view _ that. exactly and the pope has a different view that _ that. exactly and the pope has a different view that the _ that. exactly and the pope has a different view that the church i that. exactly and the pope has a i different view that the church alone should decide, so the two did this dealfour should decide, so the two did this deal four years should decide, so the two did this dealfour years ago where should decide, so the two did this deal four years ago where they would sort of effectively agree to compromise and choose bishops together. that was viewed the pope wanted to do it as an attempt to sort of have a dialogue into to revise with china. the difficulty with that, i think, is that it's only two bishops were a couple of bishops had been agreed and appointed. there are several dozen that they need to so as not been actually very much progress and acres of them has been that that ties the catholic church's hands because instant feel unable to criticise where it has been violations of religious freedom and violations of religious freedom and violations of religious freedom and violations of other religions in china as well. so muslims in xinjun
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zhang, uighurs, ortibetan buddhists orthe zhang, uighurs, ortibetan buddhists or the treatment of non—sanctioned churches where often the churches will be raised and bulldozed in china and the passes will be arrested and pressure put on people. so does that limit the catholic church's room to speak out about those things. let church's room to speak out about those things-— church's room to speak out about those things. let me ask one brief thin ifi those things. let me ask one brief thing if! may. _ those things. let me ask one brief thing if! may. is— those things. let me ask one brief thing if i may, is part _ those things. let me ask one brief thing if i may, is part of _ those things. let me ask one brief thing if i may, is part of this - thing if i may, is part of this because of the arrival of evangelical christianity, a greater desire to proselytize and convert because it seems to be one of the fears at least you hear a lot about from those who are involved in these anti—christian protests they say is as much about in the christianity but anti—christians trying to convert us and others? i5 but anti—christians trying to convert us and others? is a but anti-christians trying to convert us and others? is a very aood convert us and others? is a very good question- _ convert us and others? is a very good question. i _ convert us and others? is a very good question. i think— convert us and others? is a very good question. i think over - convert us and others? is a very good question. i think over the l good question. i think over the centuries, _ good question. i think over the centuries, we _ good question. i think over the centuries, we find _ good question. i think over the centuries, we find that - good question. i think over the centuries, we find that weaker| centuries, we find that weaker sections — centuries, we find that weaker sections and _ centuries, we find that weaker sections and tribal— centuries, we find that weaker sections and tribal people, - centuries, we find that weaker - sections and tribal people, people who have — sections and tribal people, people who have been _ sections and tribal people, people who have been discriminate - sections and tribal people, people i who have been discriminate against
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by high-class — who have been discriminate against by high—class hindus, _ who have been discriminate against by high—class hindus, have - who have been discriminate againstl by high—class hindus, have ventured towards _ by high—class hindus, have ventured towards christianity, _ by high—class hindus, have ventured towards christianity, have _ by high—class hindus, have ventured towards christianity, have convertedj towards christianity, have converted towards christianity, have converted to christianity — towards christianity, have converted to christianity. but _ towards christianity, have converted to christianity. but i— towards christianity, have converted to christianity. but i do— towards christianity, have converted to christianity. but i do not- towards christianity, have converted to christianity. but i do not see - to christianity. but i do not see any credible _ to christianity. but i do not see any credible or— to christianity. but i do not see any credible or widespread - to christianity. but i do not see - any credible or widespread evidence that says _ any credible or widespread evidence that says that — any credible or widespread evidence that says that this _ any credible or widespread evidence that says that this is _ any credible or widespread evidence that says that this is being - any credible or widespread evidence that says that this is being done - any credible or widespread evidence that says that this is being done in. that says that this is being done in a systematic— that says that this is being done in a systematic manner— that says that this is being done in a systematic manner by _ that says that this is being done in a systematic manner by the - that says that this is being done in. a systematic manner by the churches in india _ a systematic manner by the churches in india so _ a systematic manner by the churches in india so it— a systematic manner by the churches in india. so it could _ a systematic manner by the churches in india. so it could happen- a systematic manner by the churches in india. so it could happen in the - in india. so it could happen in the odd case, — in india. so it could happen in the odd case, but— in india. so it could happen in the odd case, but it _ in india. so it could happen in the odd case, but it is _ in india. so it could happen in the odd case, but it is certainly- in india. so it could happen in the odd case, but it is certainly not. odd case, but it is certainly not widespread _ odd case, but it is certainly not widespread and _ odd case, but it is certainly not widespread and certainly - odd case, but it is certainly not widespread and certainly not. widespread and certainly not systematic _ widespread and certainly not systematic. and _ widespread and certainly not systematic. and therefore i widespread and certainly not i systematic. and therefore this widespread and certainly not - systematic. and therefore this is an allegation— systematic. and therefore this is an allegation i— systematic. and therefore this is an allegation i know— systematic. and therefore this is an allegation i know on _ systematic. and therefore this is an allegation i know on the _ systematic. and therefore this is an allegation i know on the part - systematic. and therefore this is an allegation i know on the part of- systematic. and therefore this is an allegation i know on the part of the| allegation i know on the part of the hindu _ allegation i know on the part of the hindu right— allegation i know on the part of the hindu right in— allegation i know on the part of the hindu right in india, _ allegation i know on the part of the hindu right in india, but— allegation i know on the part of the hindu right in india, but it's- hindu right in india, but it's an allegation— hindu right in india, but it's an allegation which— hindu right in india, but it's an allegation which i— hindu right in india, but it's an allegation which i believe - hindu right in india, but it's an allegation which i believe is. allegation which i believe is baseless _ allegation which i believe is baseless-— allegation which i believe is baseless. ., , . ., baseless. thank you very much. now from its truism _ baseless. thank you very much. now from its truism of _ baseless. thank you very much. now from its truism of faith _ baseless. thank you very much. now from its truism of faith to _ baseless. thank you very much. now from its truism of faith to the - from its truism of faith to the polarisation of politics and if he thought the last us election was rough, you have not seen anything yet. on thursday the university of the us capital right, joe biden accuses predecessor of creating a
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web of lies about the previous election and auntjenny were the six last year, the president who relayed the mob to attack. this would of language may be connected to democrats in an effective way for a president with very poor voter approval to rally the party ahead of midterm elections with the democrats are in sore danger of losing control of congress. it may have been good politics but was this wise never mind statesman—like? i politics but was this wise never mind statesman-like?- politics but was this wise never mind statesman-like? i think you have to look _ mind statesman-like? i think you have to look at _ mind statesman-like? i think you have to look at this _ mind statesman-like? i think you have to look at this in _ mind statesman-like? i think you have to look at this in a _ mind statesman-like? i think you have to look at this in a way - mind statesman-like? i think you have to look at this in a way that l have to look at this in a way that is hard _ have to look at this in a way that is hard for— have to look at this in a way that is hard for us to look at in the normal— is hard for us to look at in the normal fashion of politics. this is l have _ normal fashion of politics. this is l have to — normal fashion of politics. this is i have to say 85 alarm fire, and we are so— i have to say 85 alarm fire, and we are so used — i have to say 85 alarm fire, and we are so used to it, it's been there for a _ are so used to it, it's been there for a long time now in america because — for a long time now in america because of donald trump that we tend to think— because of donald trump that we tend to think it's _ because of donald trump that we tend to think it'sjust because of donald trump that we tend to think it's just politics as usual _ to think it's just politics as usual. one of the tricky things about— usual. one of the tricky things about talking about donald trump has
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been really how different he has been _ been really how different he has been from other presidents, 20,000 lives and _ been from other presidents, 20,000 lives and he — been from other presidents, 20,000 lives and he told according to the washington post counter, the fact that he _ washington post counter, the fact that he would talk about grabbing women's — that he would talk about grabbing women's genitalia and he would cosy up women's genitalia and he would cosy up to vladimir putin into people to take bleach to solve their problems with covid—19. those were strange, but the _ with covid—19. those were strange, but the truly most unusual thing he did was— but the truly most unusual thing he did was try— but the truly most unusual thing he did was try to mail a coup to keep himself— did was try to mail a coup to keep himself in— did was try to mail a coup to keep himself in power. he is the only president— himself in power. he is the only president in history other public republic— president in history other public republic whoever did this. and this is serious _ republic whoever did this. and this is serious was a being has continual consequences. 58% of republicans think that — consequences. 58% of republicans think that he should be the president, thatjoe biden is not a legitimate president. and that is very. _ legitimate president. and that is very. very— legitimate president. and that is very, very difficult and worrisome for democracy that big lot i would posit is _ for democracy that big lot i would posit is similar to the big lie told by the _ posit is similar to the big lie told by the right in germany after the first _ by the right in germany after the first world war, that the reason they lost— first world war, that the reason they lost the war is that they were stabbed _ they lost the war is that they were stabbed in—
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they lost the war is that they were stabbed in the back by the socialists and the jewish people. that give — socialists and the jewish people. that give people a chance to wrap up and feel— that give people a chance to wrap up and feel betrayed and republicans are feeling betrayed because they have donald trump selena. he is going _ have donald trump selena. he is going to — have donald trump selena. he is going to run for president. he is going with — going to run for president. he is going with the candidate of the bublican— going with the candidate of the publican party again there is no one ina up— publican party again there is no one ina upto— publican party again there is no one in a up to them and they won't send up in a up to them and they won't send upto— in a up to them and they won't send uptothenr— in a up to them and they won't send up to them for anything. and so we are actually— up to them for anything. and so we are actually facing a grave constitutional crisis in the united states _ constitutional crisis in the united states. biden is going to be 82 years— states. biden is going to be 82 years old — states. biden is going to be 82 years old and the next election. he is not _ years old and the next election. he is not doing — years old and the next election. he is not doing great. if he does not do well— is not doing great. if he does not do well in — is not doing great. if he does not do well in them midterms there would not be _ do well in them midterms there would not be any— do well in them midterms there would not be any legislation at all coming out of— not be any legislation at all coming out of washington. in those two years— out of washington. in those two years leading up. things are going to get— years leading up. things are going to get worse, more broken. and so to ignore _ to get worse, more broken. and so to ignore this _ to get worse, more broken. and so to ignore this giant elephant in the room _ ignore this giant elephant in the room and — ignore this giant elephant in the room and say things are just sort of 0k is— room and say things are just sort of 0k is has— room and say things are just sort of ok is has got to push for voting reform — ok is has got to push for voting reform and republicans are trying to make _ reform and republicans are trying to make it _ reform and republicans are trying to make it harder for democrats to vote
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in the _ make it harder for democrats to vote in the states— make it harder for democrats to vote in the states they control. doing a pretty— in the states they control. doing a pretty good job of it. for federal legislation to count —— counteract this, joe — legislation to count —— counteract this, joe biden has to get a couple of senators— this, joe biden has to get a couple of senators to vote against the filibuster, maybe making some progress — filibuster, maybe making some progress by making a big deal about this election. i think we should all be concerned, notjustjoe biden, beoble _ be concerned, notjustjoe biden, people who care about the net estates — people who care about the net estates and who think it's imperfect but people who think at least it's a gravitational centre of the world order— gravitational centre of the world order need to be concerned about the future _ order need to be concerned about the future of— order need to be concerned about the future of the state of american democracy and i'm glad joe biden is raising _ democracy and i'm glad joe biden is raising it~ _ democracy and i'm glad joe biden is raisin it. �* ., , ., raising it. brief last thought if i make. raising it. brief last thought if i make- that _ raising it. brief last thought if i make. that was _ raising it. brief last thought if i make. that was all _ raising it. brief last thought if i make. that was all true - raising it. brief last thought if i make. that was all true a - raising it. brief last thought if i make. that was all true a year| raising it. brief last thought if i - make. that was all true a year ago. he is not used quite this language until now. there is going to be a suspicion that this is electoral politics and it's about strengthening his base, a basic let's face it might will be having quite a lot of doubts about whether he should even be there candidate in three years time. i he should even be there candidate in three years time.— three years time. i certainly see this as a change _ three years time. i certainly see this as a change of _ three years time. i certainly see
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this as a change of tactics - three years time. i certainly see i this as a change of tactics because for one _ this as a change of tactics because for one year. — this as a change of tactics because for one year. he _ this as a change of tactics because for one year, he ignored _ this as a change of tactics because for one year, he ignored donald i for one year, he ignored donald trump — for one year, he ignored donald trump and _ for one year, he ignored donald trump and donald _ for one year, he ignored donald trump and donald trump - for one year, he ignored donald trump and donald trump has i for one year, he ignored donald. trump and donald trump has not for one year, he ignored donald - trump and donald trump has not gone away _ trump and donald trump has not gone away so— trump and donald trump has not gone away. so therefore _ trump and donald trump has not gone away. so therefore i— trump and donald trump has not gone away. so therefore i think _ trump and donald trump has not gone away. so therefore i think he - trump and donald trump has not gone away. so therefore i think he has - away. so therefore i think he has decided to— away. so therefore i think he has decided to be _ away. so therefore i think he has decided to be more _ away. so therefore i think he has decided to be more aggressive . away. so therefore i think he has i decided to be more aggressive and see if— decided to be more aggressive and see if more — decided to be more aggressive and see if more aggression— decided to be more aggressive and see if more aggression works. - decided to be more aggressive and see if more aggression works. and j see if more aggression works. and certainly— see if more aggression works. and certainly when _ see if more aggression works. and certainly when it _ see if more aggression works. and certainly when it comes _ see if more aggression works. and certainly when it comes to - see if more aggression works. and certainly when it comes to the - see if more aggression works. and certainly when it comes to the joel certainly when it comes to the joe biden— certainly when it comes to the joe biden media — certainly when it comes to the joe biden media in _ certainly when it comes to the joe biden media in the _ certainly when it comes to the joe biden media in the us, _ certainly when it comes to the joe biden media in the us, they- certainly when it comes to the joe biden media in the us, they have| biden media in the us, they have welcomed — biden media in the us, they have welcomed this _ biden media in the us, they have welcomed this aggressive - biden media in the us, they have i welcomed this aggressive approach. he has— welcomed this aggressive approach. he has decided _ welcomed this aggressive approach. he has decided to _ welcomed this aggressive approach. he has decided to take _ welcomed this aggressive approach. he has decided to take them on. - he has decided to take them on. but at the _ he has decided to take them on. but at the end _ he has decided to take them on. but at the end of— he has decided to take them on. but at the end of the _ he has decided to take them on. but at the end of the day, _ he has decided to take them on. but at the end of the day, a _ he has decided to take them on. but at the end of the day, a couple of. at the end of the day, a couple of things— at the end of the day, a couple of things are — at the end of the day, a couple of things are important. _ at the end of the day, a couple of things are important. one - at the end of the day, a couple of things are important. one is- at the end of the day, a couple of things are important. one is the i things are important. one is the economy— things are important. one is the economy need to _ things are important. one is the economy need to turn _ things are important. one is the economy need to turn around i things are important. one is the i economy need to turn around and things are important. one is the - economy need to turn around and the second _ economy need to turn around and the second is— economy need to turn around and the second is that — economy need to turn around and the second is that his _ economy need to turn around and the second is that his social— economy need to turn around and the second is that his social and - second is that his social and climate _ second is that his social and climate agenda _ second is that his social and climate agenda needs - second is that his social and climate agenda needs to - second is that his social and l climate agenda needs to push second is that his social and - climate agenda needs to push and be pushed _ climate agenda needs to push and be pushed forward _ climate agenda needs to push and be pushed forward-— pushed forward. thank you all very much and lovely _ pushed forward. thank you all very much and lovely to _ pushed forward. thank you all very much and lovely to have _ pushed forward. thank you all very much and lovely to have your- much and lovely to have your company. thank you very much for your company as well. that's it for dateline: london for this week. we're back next week at the same time. goodbye.
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good evening. it was a pretty wintry end to the week in many parts of the uk. snow brought disruption for some, although it did bring some beautiful scenes as well. that was how it looked for a weather watcher in east dunbartonshire. through tonight, ice could be a hazard for a time, but it will turn milder and also wetter through the second half of the night. under clear skies, temperatures plummeting. ice from southern scotland into northern england and spots further south as well. but then we see cloud bringing rain in from the west, briefly a spell of snow as that bumps into the cold air, but it will tend to turn back to rain as temperatures climb. by the end of the night, belfast, cardiff, plymouth 8—10 degrees. so, a much milder start to saturday morning, but with cloud and outbreaks of rain. this frontal system bringing a pretty unsettled day
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of weather actually, with some heavy bursts of rain, some brisk winds. sandwiched, though, between these two weather fronts, we have this wedge of milder air. so, a different feel to things for saturday morning with cloud with outbreaks of heavy rain pushing eastwards. the rain tending to organise itself into bands, and this last band of rain here pushing eastwards is particularly likely to give some really intense downpours with some thunder and lightning and some squally, gusty winds which could easily gust up to 140—50 mph or more in the most exposed spots. the rain will then clear to leave sunshine and showers. some of the showers will turn wintry as temperatures drop away again, 5—10 degrees around 3pm in the afternoon. a fairly chilly night on saturday night with some wintry showers around, particularly out towards the west. but as we get into sunday, you do have to squint at the map to see it, but there is a little bump in the isobars here, a little ridge of high pressurejust trying to build its way in. it won't be able to kill
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off the shower activity completely, i suspect. there will still be some, but not too many. there should be a decent amount of dry weather and some spells of sunshine. temperatures between 4—10 degrees, and then behind me here comes our next weather system, bringing cloud and rain from the west. but the story really for next week is for things to settle down. high pressure building its way up from the south, establishing itself quite strongly across the southern half of the uk particularly. so, we will see a lot of dry weather, some spells of sunshine. chance for some rain at times in the north where it will be windy, but it's going to feel milder for all of us.
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