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other, and we'll think of each other, and we'll think of same—sex partnerships, when we mention it for strictly, as two men, but it can of course be two women as well. how does strictly compare with other versions of the show around the world? in australia, it is called dancing with the stars. we had an incredible drag act dancing with a man, and it was so well received by the australian public, they were the nation's sweethearts, and they embraced it, they would all the way to the final. she did not a lwa ys the way to the final. she did not always dance as a drag queen, sometimes it was as e—mail as well, it was absolutely fantastic.” sometimes it was as e—mail as well, it was absolutely fantastic. i was just going to say, does a drag act equates to a same—sex dance? just going to say, does a drag act equates to a same—sex dance7|j just going to say, does a drag act equates to a same-sex dance? i think we sort of forgot that courtney was actually a man, so it was nice to see what they did with their tango. it was amazing, you can see that online. because it was so well received, the group would be fantastic to do that here. and of course, you do not need to be gay to
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dance with summary of the same sex, either. boldon dancing isjust dance with summary of the same sex, either. boldon dancing is just about two people milling together in perfect unison across a floor. as long as you have a leader and a follower, it should not really matter who is who. how do you think it'll go down with viewers? what do you think the were afraid of? as brits are very traditional when it comes to our boldon dancing, but of course, like anything in the world, it is evolving, and it moves on, and people need to see it to be able to embrace it. —— ballroom dancing. i think it is one of those things people are a bit scared to see, they think it is not quite right, but until you see something, look at the first lesbian kiss on air in brookside a few years ago, but now it is just the norm. brookside a few years ago, but now it isjust the norm. we are looking at some shots on the screen, it is fun, isn't it, strictly come dancing? it is all about fun. i'm not sure that was dancing, but never
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mind! is about to be put learning skills together, especially celebrities. it's great for mental health, socialising, fitness, new mehmedi. other classes or schools we re mehmedi. other classes or schools were same sex dancing does take place? once a month, go to a ballroom in a south london, they have a same—sex evening called the pinkjukebox. it have a same—sex evening called the pink jukebox. it was have a same—sex evening called the pinkjukebox. it was incredible to see a jam—packed studio full of same sex dancing. it is on the rise and i think everybody should embrace it. taipei zoo has celebrated the 15th birthday of two giant pandas which were gifted to taiwan by the chinese mainland in 2008. the pandas yuan yuan and tuan tuan enjoyed two specially made ice cakes decorated with seasonal fruits and vegetables, as well as several ice balloons on bamboo sticks.
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the cake was also designed with special symbols to wish the female yuan yuan good luck in conceiving more baby pandas. now it's time for a look at the weather. most of us has seen some rain so far today as a weather system moves east across the uk, behind, we are getting a sun returning for the rest of the weekend but it is cooler. the last of that with the system pulls away from east anglia and the south—east of england as we go through the evening. a heavy rain in scotla nd through the evening. a heavy rain in scotland are easing to showers, quite a lot of clear weather around overnight. temperatures dipping away quite widely to single figures is that the day tomorrow. showers tomorrow early in more and western scotland, but fine and sunny weather across many other parts of the uk but the showers will be further south and east during the day, some of them likely to be heavy and thundery day tomorrow. showers tomorrow early in northern and western scotland, but fine and sunny weather across many other parts of the uk but the showers will be further south and east during the day, some of them likely to be heavy
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and thundery. what of us will not. hello, this is bbc news. the headlines: thousands take to the streets across the uk — to condemn borisjohnson's decision to suspend parliament. there's been renewed violence in hong kong — with pro—democracy protesters defying a ban on rallying. more than 50 migrants have been detained as they tried to cross the english channel to reach kent — several boats have been intercepted. the charity, samaritans, is being criticised for entering into a year—long partnership with a gambling company. and now on bbc news — some of the highlights from the victoria derbyshire programme this week.
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hello, and welcome — i'm chloe tilley. over the next half an hour we will choose some of the highlights from our programme over the last week. we start with an investigation by this programme, which found that leaflets telling parents that new relationship education lessons in infant school would encourage their children to maturbate have been handed out in east london. another told parents if they don't challenge relationships and sex education, they would be questioned on the day ofjudgment. protests against one particular programme of relationship teaching, called no outsiders, at primary schools in birmingham made national headlines earlier this year. and there are now fears there will be more protests in other parts of the country as the new school year begins. catrin nye has been speaking to the people trying to oppose them. from next september, it will be compulsory to teach relationships education in primary schools in england, and relationships
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and sex education — rse — in secondary schools. the government wants teaching to include things like single—parent families, adoption and same—sex relationships. but it says it will be up to schools to decide when that's age appropriate. now, since january, this issue has prompted leafleting campaigns and protests outside some primary schools, most notably in birmingham. they can't tell you when and how they should be taught. you have a say in the matter. in newham, east london, parents have been targeted at the school gates. so this is the leaflet that was handed out right here at this primary school? yeah, as you can see, you know there's like a variety of untruths in this. you know, it says things like that inclusive rse is going to promote transgenderism. that it's going to promote homosexual lifestyles, that it's going to teach children
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in infant school about having sex and being encouraged to masturbate, you know? of course, when parents see these kinds of untruths being peddled, they're worried. so the moment we found out about it, we brought it up in full council and we questioned you know, who exactly is this group and why are they spreading this kind of misinformation to parents? and what exactly is their agenda? because it's not about helping children. and it's definitely not about helping parents. the group that distributed that leaflet is called the school gate campaign. they stand by most of the claims but have removed the specific accusation about children being encouraged to masturbate. the new flyers say that some teaching resources will introduce words like masturbation to juniors. this is written in draft teaching guidance for at least one local authority in england. parents of this school, though, have already seen the exaggerated claims. and councillor rohit dasgupta argues the damage has been done.
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he shows me more of the material that's been circulated locally. so this is the kind of material that's been sent around in whatsapp groups? yeah, so these are a lot of private whatsapp groups for parents. this post urges parents to come to a meeting about rse teaching and says there'll be consequences if you don't. if we fail to attend them, the schools will continue teaching our children what they like and we'll be questioned on the day ofjudgment. "we will be questioned on the day ofjudgment." that is a very scary thing to put on a leaflet like this, especially if you're a person of faith. there has been a lot of intimidation that a lot of councillors have faced over here in terms of from both party members as well as residents living in theirward who come and question them, "why are you supporting this?" you know, "this is something that's going to affect my child." and i think it's a lot of misinformation — that is the main problem. is it not totally legitimate for parents to express concerns about what their children
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are taught? i think it's important that parents are consulted and i think it is important that parents are told exactly what their children are taught. but the teachers, the head teachers the curriculum educators are the experts over here. you know, this is not something that has come out of nowhere. you know, this is about making sure that we teach our children about equality, that we teach our children that it is ok to be different. that we teach our children that they don't grow up to become bigots. birmingham has been the focus of the protests against relationship and sex education, particularly these two schools — parkfield community school and anderton park primary. the protesters so far, while often opposing relationships and sex education broadly, have particularly objected to a set of books used to teach it in primary school called no outsiders. the books include stories like a boy who wants to dress as a mermaid and a penguin with two daddies.
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"two penguins in the penguin house were little bit different. "one was named roy and the other was named silo." in birmingham, a group of locals are producing a video showing children and parents reading from the books. they want to make people less worried about what's in them. i know that from parkfield and from over at anderton park primary school that there's some parents who are quite happy with the programme, but unfortunately i'm hearing stories that they're being intimidated, harassed or threatened. some of them have been accused of being not muslim enough. they feel somewhat isolated from the community at large because they have to fit into that community. javed iqbal also lives in birmingham. he's a member of the alum rock community forum, a group covering the same area as parkfield school. his children went there, and now his grandchildren. in the early days of the protest, he spoke on behalf of the parents as part of the parkfield parents group.
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but he says the protests now have to stop. they're not helpful at all. we're grown—up adults, we're educated enough to sit around a table to resolve these issues around a table, instead of standing outside a school and shouting and screaming. do you understand why people felt the need to protest? depending who are you talking about. i mean, a lot of the parents had no choice but to protest, because obviously they weren't being listened to. javed, however, says people from outside the community have no business getting involved in the protests. stay away from them schools, stay away from the children and stay away from the education. how much do you really care? because you don't. .. we've never seen you here. a lot of the people that have actually come to the area, what is in it for you? you know, you'rejust here possibly for publicity, a stunt. orjust get the media fame. how much of the protest do you think was genuine concern and how much
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was just straight up homophobia? a majority of it is a genuine concern. i mean, i don't believe... ok, fine, there might be a few that might be homophobic. but i don't believe the whole community is homophobic. javed was involved in mediation between parents and the school, which he says has not actually been very successful. it's still left in limbo, really. a lot of parents have removed their children to look for alternative schools in the area. bell rings. yehudis fletcher is an orthodoxjew living in manchester. can i come in? she has three young children who attend orthodox schools. yehudis is very pro—relationships and sex education, but says that many within the community are not, including some people running orthodox schools, who don't want to teach it. what are your concerns if children, pupils don't get this kind of education? i think that the children who need
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sex and relationship education the most are the children whose parents or the schools that they go to are trying to deny it to them. those are the children who are likely to be in an environment where they can't speak up if they're being abused. i can't really comment on other communities, but i know that within my community there are people who want children to remain largely ignorant about sex and relationships because they want them to carry on with the traditional way in which they're married at a very early age, without much knowledge about what they're getting into. other people might argue that it's simply people whose religion doesn't accept homosexuality, for example, not wanting their children taught things they don't believe at home. i don't think anybody doesn't believe that homosexuality exists. they might think that homosexual acts are forbidden, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they absolutely
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will have a certain percentage within them who are lgbtq. that's not something anybody can deny. yehudis has been outspoken in her support for rse but says many people don't have her confidence. do you know specific examples where parents have wanted to say, i'm ok with the relationship education but feel like they can't? yes, absolutely. many of them have been in contact with me directly because i've written about it and spoken out about it. they've contacted me privately and said, you know, thank you for speaking out because i can't. do you think the kind of protests we've seen in birmingham could come here? i think they will. i'm really worried about that. the good thing is, in this borough, the council is very, very united in opposing any anti—rse campaigns that come up. it will not be an easy ride. you know, when the government leaves
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it onto local authorities and leaves it onto teachers and headteachers. it's not going to be easy but i think we are going to be doing our best to make sure that the level of really vile protest that we saw in birmingham doesn't come over here in newham. next, we spoke this week to heather, who 20—year—old son, freddie, died in june after falling from a second floor balcony of a hotel. he travelled to magaluf on a work trip after winning a company incentive scheme, but died on the first night of his stay. heather spoke to joanna gosling. losing a child, especially in these circumstances, is the most horrific experience ever, and i never wish anyone to ever have to experience this. so i feel it's important, as a mother, to raise awareness of safety abroad, about looking after each other, and balcony safety.
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you know, everyone thinks that they are exempt from the situation. the fact is, these accidents are happening a lot. they are tragic accidents. often, people just think it comes from young people mucking around — unfortunately, i think a good 75% of these accidents happen when people are alone. so tell us what happened then to freddie on the night that he sadly died? freddie was out with his work colleagues and, gradually, people returned to the hotel, and freddie decided to stay out with some other colleagues. his work colleagues he was sharing a room with had returned and they were asleep.
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freddie returned to his room and had started to get undressed and had gone out to his balcony. we don't know, we believe he tripped or fell asleep, and somehow, fell over the balcony and died instantly. i mentioned that awful moment for you in the early hours of the morning when you got the phone call. it must have been just awful — your son in another country, you get a phone call like that — what did you do? my initial reaction was to put down the phone, i didn't believe the phone call. because, obviously, the person who was calling was clearly very distressed, they had just lost a work colleague. and i... it was complete disbelief. i completely grilled the colleague, i wanted his name, i wanted name of the hotel.
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unfortunately, no one could give me answers so my daughter, between us, we phoned the hotel to confirm if there had been an accident. and then we phoned the magaluf police. unfortunately, nobody could confirm my son's death. which is quite horrific, because you actually believe that you're going to get a knock on the door from the police, telling you. because that is what we are led to believe happens. and without us leaving that telephone number, it may have been several more hours before we were really aware, could confirm that our son had died. what was freddie like? freddie had this most amazing smile that lit up the room for everybody. he is known for his smile. he was extremely passionate, hard—working, loyal man who...
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he worked so hard to get to bristol for thisjob, and he was so proud that he had become a working professional. and he was the first in the office, last out the office. and his life was just about to take off. he was an amazing rugby player, he was extremely well respected across the county for his rugby. and he fought to the end for everything he did. his loyalty to his family and friends is to be commended. and you don't want his death to be in vain? you said about the importance to you of getting a message out there that safety abroad is something that everybody needs to think about, people should look out for each other, support each other. what would your message be to young people, to anybody? because, obviously, people go on trips all the time and don't
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think about the potential risks. the thing is, this applies to everybody of any age. this applies to people with young families with balcony safety. imean... loads of children sleepwalk, adults sleepwalk, so just that awareness of possibly, you know, of definitely locking the balcony door. not letting children out on the balcony unattended. and for young people going out, who are socialising, to stay together, don't leave people alone, and be aware of your environment all the time. and you have set up a memorial fund for your son? tell us about that. the memorial fund was set up because, very quickly
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after freddie's death, we became aware of how many lives that freddie had positively impacted in so many different ways, but especially in sporting activities. he was very supportive at helping younger children, they all looked up to him at the rugby club. it was very family—orientated. but hearing how many lives that he impacted, sports—wise, we felt, as a family, why not set up a fund to kind of help promote and to get people with sports development and coaching? because without freddie having a privileged background, he wouldn't have been able to do all the events that he did sport in. he travelled to new zealand, he was a very lucky, that was rugby. so if we can raise funds to help support adults and children to actually reach for their goals and their dreams, then freddie would have loved that, because he admired anybody
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who fought hard. and he worked extremely hard for his goals and his dreams, and he had just reached them, so we feel this is the best way to carry on his legacy. finally, earlier this year, we reported on complaints of disability discrimination at liverpool university. julia was one of the students who spoke to us about how having various health conditions meant she needed extra support, and how difficult she found getting that help. ijust got to a stage where i was so angry at the university for not helping me, putting the support in place. i realised that it wasn'tjust me that was having these issues, it was a lot of students. how has the university been in terms of their support towards you? extremely inconsistent, and at times, completely not there. after seeing ourfilm, simon harding got in touch to tell
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us about his nephew, gary copeland. gary is registered blind, and he is on the autism spectrum. he has just finished his fourth year of law school at the university of glasgow. he and his family say that he has been systematically discriminated against by the university, which has left him depressed and anxious about failing the course altogether. one of gary's biggest issues has been access to the reading material needed for his course. gary, and his family, have made 19 formal complaints to the university over the last three years, but only one has been fully upheld. on wednesday, simon and gary sat down withjoanna gosling, and he told her of the difficulties that he has encountered. i've also had problems with examinations, i've had it issues, i've had problems with many e—mails and letters back and forth — which is taking up all my time — and some of them are quite nasty as well. so what are your needs? and what's the reaction when you ask for it?
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so, visual impairment, which means that i need to have all of my reading in an accessible word format. so, in order for me to get that, i have to provide the reading list to an external agency. so it must be quite a time—consuming process? if you don't get it, what impact does that have on you? if i don't receive the reading, it means that i basically have to do all of my assessments and my exams based entirely on my memory, which means that it really affects my grades. and how does that make you feel? it's very, very depressing. it's just complete hopelessness, and ijust feel like it's out of control and never going to get any better. simon, you got in touch with us after the previous report that we just saw. i know that you got involved dealing with glasgow university to try to get the support that gary needs. how frustrated are
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you by what has been going on? that gary needs. how frustrated are you by what has been going 0mm has been enormously frustrating. the whole issue here is a duty, a requirement under the equality act of 2010 to make reasonable adjustments. we have tried to work collaboratively with the university, even taking them to mediation at one point, to try to get them to understand the issues for gary and his particular form of disability and needs. there just seems to be a complete intransigence, a lack of understanding, a lack of training, even a lack of will and desire to engage with this. it has been going on for four years, engage with this. it has been going on forfouryears, continuing. engage with this. it has been going on for four years, continuing. we have a statement from the university of glasgow, a spokesperson says that we always look to address the needs of individual students and to tailor the package of support appropriately. in some cases, where the needs are complex and multifaceted, it can take some time to get right. in this instance, huge effort to be made by colleagues,
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aided by expert external advice, to ensure that the student can progressive studies effectively. we are pleased that he is progressing well at an academic level. preparations for his next year of study have been under way for some time, and we are confident that we will be able to support him effectively through to the completion of his studies. does that reassure you? now, not really, it feels very disingenuous. the ad has an anticipatory duty, which means that the university has to anticipate gary's needs and put things in place, they have fundamentally failed to do that. when challenged, they become very embattled and embittered, and it really direct their anger towards us and blame gary for his situation. gary, obviously, you have gone there to get a degree and to go on to do whatever you want to do after it, how do you feel like you're heading into york last year, are you feeling confident about getting through it
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and getting the degree that you want? i'm feeling very, very nervous about it, i just want? i'm feeling very, very nervous about it, ijust feel like it is going to improve in my last year of study. i feel like it going to improve in my last year of study. ifeel like it is going to improve in my last year of study. i feel like it is going to affect my career prospects because it has depressed my grades and it has been very difficult to deal with. that is it for this week's programme. you can always send us your ideas. we are back on monday morning at ten o'clock on bbc two at the bbc news channel and online. bye— bye. asa as a weather system moves east across the uk, many of us has seen a bit of rangers that the weekend. not all has been as heavy as this, from shropshire, early today. we have also seen some shropshire, early today. we have also seen some very shropshire, early today. we have also seen some very heavy rain in scotland, especially luton north. that will system has been hanging
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around, particularly in scotland, with that heavy rain. it is now moving eastwards into the rain is turning lighter as it does so. the wind changing from a westerly to a north—westerly. the last of what is less of the system cooling away from east anglia and the south—east. the heavy rain and love in scotland are easing to showers, they continue in the north and west of scotland overnight, a few brushing the coast of northern ireland. the temperatures overnight quite widely in single figures as was that the day tomorrow. there will be a lot of sunshine tomorrow, i decidedly fleshed out to the day. showers in scotla nd fleshed out to the day. showers in scotland early, some pushing further, some heavy and possibly fund the re. much of wales and southern england avoiding them and stain dry. temperatures topped out
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at 30 celsius last weekend, but most of us are felling well short of that. there will be sunshine around any of the showers. a quick through sunday night and into monday morning, so a you shall was around, particularly northern half of the uk. it will be chilly as monday starts, there will be diffuse but not too far away from freezing. a big picture for next week, high—pressure closest to the southern half of the uk, low pressure close to the northern parts. scotland, northern ireland. those weather systems might occasionally run their way across other parts too, but with hardly any right left. temperatures do recover a little bit into the start of next week, as the week goes on, the cool off once again, as we see the return off once again, as we see the return ofa off once again, as we see the return of a north—westerly breeze. you see the extent of the cloud around next week, a bit of sunshine, diced in
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the south. this is bbc news, i'm lukwesa burak. the headlines at 5pm: there's been renewed violence in hong kong, with pro—democracy protesters defying a ban on rallying. thousands take to the streets across the uk to condemn borisjohnson's decision to suspend parliament. i never thought at my age, 6! years of age, i'd have to be here in whitehall protesting against the shut—down of parliament. more than 50 migrants have been detained as they tried to cross the english channel to reach kent. several boats have been intercepted. same—sex couples could be allowed to compete on strictly come dancing from next year. puts it back into wards in there if the goal! gets the equaliser!


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