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today at 5: the government brings rail services on the east coast main line back under public control. the troubled london to edinburgh route has suffered heavy losses under joint management by virgin and stagecoach. the route has its challenges, but it is not a failing railway. however, as i explained in february, mr speaker, stagecoach and virgin trains got their bid wrong, and they are now paying a price. i think it's a good idea. i think the people who run it in the past have been pretty useless. all everybody really wants is good service, and to pay something you think is the right price for it. we'll have the latest on the takeover, and ask why this route has hit the buffers three times in ten years? lilian greenwood, who chairs the transport select committee, will tell us what answers she's demanding. the other main stories on bbc news at 5: a corporate culture gone rotten — mps deliver withering criticism of the collapsed construction giant carillion. kim jong—un threatens to pull out of next month's summit with donald trump if the us insists north korea gives up its nuclear weapons. cheering
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england's young football fans help gareth southgate unveil the manager's his 23—man side for the world cup in russia next month. and prince george will be a page, princess charlotte one of their bridesmaid's, it's been announced, at their uncle harry's wedding. but it's still not known whether the bride's father will be at windsor to walk meghan markle down the aisle. hello, a very good afternoon to you. it's 5 o'clock. our main story is that for the third time in a decade, the east coast main line is heading back into public hands.
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from next month, the london to edinburgh services, jointly run by virgin trains east coast and stagecoach, will be taken over by the department of transport — for now. as simonjones report, the franchise has suffered heavy losses. it's the end of the line for virgin trains's east coast. services will be brought back under public control. i will terminate the contract on the 24th ofjune, 2018. i plan to use a period operator of last resort control to ship the new partnership. the same day star with the launch of a new long—term blind for the east coast mainline through the re—creation of creation of one of britain's iconic real brands, the lner. 936 miles from london to peterborough, the east midlands, york, edinburgh and beyond. it is being run as a joint venture between virgin and stagecoach. they paid a lot of money to run the service until 2023 but the government says the company has got their numbers wrong and has lost nearly £200
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million. the third time injust wrong and has lost nearly £200 million. the third time in just over a decade it has been forced to call halt to the franchise. gner was stripped of the route in 2007 and national express withdrew in 2009. that announcement today is yet another monumental misjudgement to add to a growing list of miscalculations by this secretary of state. stagecoach said it was surprised and disappointed after failing to negotiate a new deal. the website for its successor, london and north eastern railway, is up and running, and aims to assure passengers its journeys —— running, and aims to assure passengers itsjourneys —— their journeys will not be affected. i think it's a good idea. i think the people who run it in the past have been pretty useless. it costs them a lot of money. they don't seem to be able to add up. am happy the way it is. things slipping the government—controlled. .. happy the way it is. things slipping the government-controlled. .. what everybody wants is good service and
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to pay something you think is the right price for it. the government believes longer term the way forward isa believes longer term the way forward is a partnership between the public and private sectors. what many want to know, after so many failures, is who can make a success of this line, both financially and for travelers? jones, bbc news. our business correspondent theo leggett is here. theo, what's gone wrong? said the liberty—mac holders of this franchise did bid too much and chris grayling emphatically laid the blame at their door today. but the two company said in the past —— certainly, the two holders of this franchise. they said in the past the assumptions on which they made this bid were wrong, in other words anticipating improvements to railway infrastructure which never materialised and increasing passenger numbers, therefore increasing passenger revenues, which never materialised either. although the secretary of state was trying to
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put the blame firmly on the commercial companies and saying they got their sums wrong, there does seem to be a criticism here that could be made of the bidding system itself and the assumptions made by the department for transport. difficult presumably because the secretary of state is saying taking it back into the department for transport‘s control it back into the department for tra nsport‘s control is it back into the department for transport‘s control is only a temporary measure, and he is proposing a new model, public and private partnership model, which presumably will be depending on lots of the same factors? we don't know what construction that public and private partnership will take, because the secretary of state has not said so yet. that information will be forthcoming later. what he has said is they will kind of used this as a transition period now to create the environment in which this public private partnership can exist. for the moment the railway will be run, or supervised at least, by the department for transport, using what it calls an operator of last resort, which will in fact rely on private companies in order to keep things functioning. so although
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in some quarters it has been portrayed as temporary nationalisation of the railway, it isn't really but it is coming firmly under the direct supervision of the secretary of state and the government. theo leggett, thank you very much. lilian greenwood was labour's shadow transport secretary. she now chairs the cross—party transport select committee. it scrutinises the work of chris grayling's department. lilian greenwood, welcome to the daily —— the bbc muzak five. this was not a surprise although the company saying they are surprised and disappointed by —— the bbc news at five. is the third failure in the space of ten years on the east coast main line. we want to look at previous failures and why the secretary of state has made the decisions he has. also we want to look at these plans for a future public private partnership, because to be honest there is little
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evidence that vertical arrangement will deliver, and on this line where there is a multitude of operators seems a very strange place to try it out. is there something specific about this franchise, you think, that makes it so hard to predict likely revenue and therefore result in companies over bidding and finding themselves in a mess?|j think finding themselves in a mess?” think that is one of the questions we will be looking at in our inquiry. 0bviously virgin and stagecoach from the other main north south lane, and this one is quite different, serving quite different markets. but i think there are also very important questions to ask the department for transport. the previous secretary of state told us there had been rigorous and robust scrutiny of the figures and we want to know why they didn't spot that there was going to be a problem. may in part be a problem created by government rather than by the private companies? i think
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government said at the centre, they know what network rail is, the infrastructure manager, what they are expected to do, they know what assumptions virgin stage —— stagecoach made putting in their bid, so perhaps they should have spotted problems and acted sooner or ask further questions about the numbers, because the sums certainly did not add up, and i am not sure yet, and we will find out during our inquiry, where that responsibility lies, and that is the question we wa nt to lies, and that is the question we want to ask. a wonder of some of the political argument over our railways is quite frustrating for parties, because on the one hand they hear your party going back into the last election, let's take it all back into public ownership, then the conservatives, privatisation has been a success, yet the reality is the bit that runs the actual network itself, the tracks and the stations, network rail, it is a publicly run organisation. we are having
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individual franchises ta ken back into public ownership, but as theo was saying, even this new partnership will depend on private companies. isn't it time to be honest and say what we need for an effective railway is a mix of public and private? i think passengers are totally baffled by the fragmented nature of our railways that we have, with 1 cent of people running the trains, one running the infrastructure and a completely different group of people owning the trains. what they want is affordable services that they can rely on, that are not overcrowded, they can get a seat, and they expect government to sort this out. what they don't expect, this sort of mess, for taxpayers were promised a level of premiums being paid back to the treasury by the train operators, and we now know that that is going to be hundreds of millions of pounds adrift. lilian greenwood, chair of the all—party select committee on transport, it will be interesting to see your committee's findings. thanks for being with us this afternoon. plenty of commuters on the trains
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at this time of day. later in the programme, we'll be hearing from passengers at edinburgh — what do they make of the shake—up on who runs their trains? mps have published a damning report into the collapse of the construction and services company carillion. in a joint report by the work and pensions, and business select committees, senior executives are accused of presiding over a "rotten corporate culture," whilst "stuffing their mouths with gold." thousands of people lost theirjobs when the company collapsed. former members of carillion's board of directors have rejected the findings. simon gompertz has more. birmingham's new super hospital — construction at a standstill. this is the continuing blight from carillion, which today's report says was brought down by recklessness and greed, and was a giant time bomb. the longer the midland metropolitan hospital lies abandoned, the more the weather gets in, the higher the cost of restarting. the opening could be delayed three years. it was heartbreaking, i had to tell the guys they had to go home that day. and i didn't know when they were going to come back to work.
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james, an ex—paratrooper, never dealt with anything like this. he was a subcontractor working on the hospital and lost £200,000 to carillion. it is upsetting to think this actually goes on and is probably still going on in other companies, which will make us very wary and will make other companies very wary of working for bigger companies in the future. which is very sad, to be in an industry where this sort of thing can go on. the blamed by mps for what happened to james and others, richard howson, the chief executive with a strategy described as doomed to fail. finance director, richard adam, called the architect of aggressive accounting policies — an accusation he rejects. and chairman philip green, said to be "delusional". which he says is inaccurate. the directors of carillion were lining their own pockets, they had more concern for their own pay, bonuses and dividend pay—outs than they did for running the company in a way that would generate jobs
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and investment and growth. so what turned carillion into a time bomb which put the building of a hospital in danger? the mps homed in on what they called aggressive accounting. accounting for revenue from work which hasn't been agreed upon. they said the approach was intended to deceive. and it was unsustainable. the report is also scathing about carillion's auditors, including kpmg, branded as complicit after being paid millions over the years to sign off the accounts. regulation of big companies and a break—up of the big four auditing firms, which the mps call "a cosy club". simon gompertz, bbc news, birmingham. let me bring you some breaking news
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in the westminster this afternoon. another defeat for the government as it tries to get its brexit legislation through parliament. it has been defeated in the house of lords with peers demanding more "post—brexit protections for the environment." so that is a further defeat for the government, which now has two options, to either concede on it or seek to overturn that fought in the house of commons, which it has already tried to do on a number of previous occasions. so a defeat for the government's brexit legislation in the house of lords, a call by peers for more protection on environmental issues that might arise, to replace the current protections which of course are imposed as part of our membership of the eu. now, it's been announced that the chief executive of 0xfam in the uk, mark goldring, is to stand down at the end of this year. the charity's been criticised after allegations of sex abuse
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by its staff in haiti. in a statement, mr goldring said 0xfam was laying strong foundations for recovery. the north korea has threatened to cancel next month's summit with president trump if the united states continues to insist it give up its nuclear weapons unilaterally. earlier, it pulled out of this week's talks with south korea in protest at the resumption ofjoint military exercises with the us. in the last few minutes president trump has said he will still insist on full denuclearisation of the korean peninsula. paul adams has more. after weeks of positive signs, a hint on north korean television that all is not necessarily well. the announcer condemning planned military exercises in south korea as a provocation and warning that washington will have to think carefully about the fate of next month's planned summit. south korea's military exercises with us forces have long been a source of tension with the north. but this is notjust about military exercises. a north korean statement accuses american officials of
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unbridled remarks, provoking the other side. these include references to complete, verifiable and irreversible denuclearisation and the abandonment of nuclear weapons first, with compensation only coming afterwards. this, it says, is not an expression of intention to address the issue through dialogue. the statement objects to the suggestion that north korea should follow the example of the libyan leader, muammar gaddafi, who voluntarily gave up his nuclear weapons 15 years ago. and it singles out donald trump's most hawkish advisor. i think we are looking at the libyan model of 2003, 2004, and also looking at what north korea itself has committed to previously. so is next month's summit in jeopardy? fresh from securing the release of three americans held in the north, donald trump has high expectations. my proudest achievement will be — this is a part of it — but will be
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when we denuclearise that entire peninsula. american officials seem to be taking the latest setback in their stride. we are operating under the idea and the notion that the president's meeting is going forward with chairman kim next month. last year, kim jong—un had other ways of getting washington's attention. perhaps, experts say, we shouldn't be too worried. if north korea wanted to cancel the summit for good, they wouldn't have issued this statement warning the united states not to pressure north korea any more. they would have tested a missile. if last month's north—south meeting suggested any of this would be easy, that notion has now been dispelled. bringing peace to the korean peninsula is still a huge task and will take more than two dramatic summits to achieve. paul adams, bbc news. this is bbc news at five — the headlines:
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the government brings rail services on the troubled east coast main line from london to edinburgh back under public control. a rotten corporate culture — mps deliver withering criticism of the collapsed construction giant carillion. north korea threatens to pull out of next month's summit with president trump if the us insists it give up its nuclear weapons. and in sport: gareth southgate names his squad for the world cup in russia — it's england's third youngest world cup line up, with 19—year—old liverpool defender trent alexander arnold among those included. ray wilson, a member of england's 1966 world cup—winning team has died at the age of 83. he won the fa cup with everton the same year, having spent most of his career with huddesfield town.
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and briton's simon yates extends his lead in the giro d'italia by winning the 11th stage. the pinkjersey wearer finished two seconds ahead of second placed tom dumoulin. i'll be back with more on those stories after half—past. figures obtained by the bbc suggest the number of gangs using children to carry drugs and to sell them has soared in the last four years. it's thought there are now more than 1,000 of the drug—dealing operations, known as "county lines" — which involve powerful and aggressive city—based gangs taking over drug—dealing in provincial towns around the uk. wyre davies has more. a drugs deal in a north wales coastal town. this isn't the dealer's house, nor the user's. the flat has been "cuckooed", taken over temporarily by a gang from liverpool. it's a classic feature of a pervasive form of drug dealing known as "county lines". across the uk police forces are fighting this new scourge — ruthlessly efficient gangs moving into provincial towns. given the colour of it, we reckon
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it's going to be individual wraps of crack cocaine. many of those lured by the gangs arejust teenagers. one, who worked for a liverpool outfit but has now left, spoke to me anonymously. i was 13 when i started selling class a drugs. at first i started selling bits of weed. and this kid came up to us and was like, if you want to make some real money, jump on this phone. after a few times i got used to it, thinking, yeah, this is easy money. as drug markets in many big cities become saturated, the gangs are moving out. their young couriers using the train network to reach every corner of the country. this is how it works. drugs runners arriving in provincial towns, hand out a mobile phone number to their customers, and this is the county line number. the key thing is that this virtually
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untraceable number is held by the anonymous dealer back in the city. they have no obvious contact with the drugs, but have total control over what drugs are sold, and when. for law enforcement, it's looking for a needle in a haystack. have you got any drugs on you? no. the national crime agency says there are now more than 1,000 county lines across the uk, a fourfold increase injust four years. a feature of county lines is the extreme violence gangs will use to muscle in on local dealers. in this black bmw, four members of a liverpool gang chased down a rival in the town of rhyl, forcing him to stop in a car park. seconds later, mark mason was dead — stabbed 22 times. most county lines networks are based in london, from where gangs send young couriers across the country. but surveillance of gangs who travel down from london has brought results. this operation in swansea led to more than 60 arrests. but it also showed how far the gangs had penetrated
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the lucrative local drugs scene. during the operation what we established was that we had around 21 separate drug lines in the swansea bay area. one of the telephone lines was subsequently sold, it went for tens of thousands of pounds. as secure juvenile units across the country fill up with young people snared by the drugs trade, the government admits it can't just arrest its way out of the problem. wyre davis, bbc news. and gangs, murder and teenage drug runners, presented by wyre davies, is broadcast on bbc one wales tonight — at 21:00 — and available on the bbc iplayer. some of the other stories making bbc news at 5: the government says it will fully fund the removal and replacement of dangerous cladding on high rise blocks owned by councils and housing associations. the prime minister theresa may said fire
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inspectors have visited more than 1,000 tower blocks since the grenfell tower fire, and immediate action has been taken to ensure the safety of residents. the work is expected to cost £400 million. police are investigating a fatal attack on an 85—year—old woman, identified by police as rosina coleman. she was found by a handyman at her home in romford with serious injuries yesterday morning. officers have described it as a "cowardly assault". the facebook founder mark zuckerberg will give evidence to the european parliament about the use of personal data. the social network has come under scrutiny after revelations users' personal information was used in order to target political adverts in campaigns, including the brexit referendum. the parliament's president said mr zuckerberg would come to brussels "as soon as possible," potentially as early as next week. 75 years ago today, 617 squadron with its lancaster bombers took off — to attack three key dams in germany's ruhr valley.
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loaded with revolutionary bouncing bombs, the dangerous mission was designed to target and disable hitler's industrial heartland. most of us know the story through the dambusters, the 1955 film. it's getting a special airing at london's albert hall tomorrow. squadron leaderjohnyjohnson is the last surviving british member of the dambusters squadron. he spoke to robert hall about his memories of the operation, and his efforts to pass them on to future generations. past and present, side by side, the link which binds the raf‘s 617 squadron to aviation history. squadron leaderjohnnyjohnson is the last british member of the dambusters crews. he believes the full story of the operation has yet to be told and he's set out to put that right. there it is, boys. the iconic 1955 film did its best to capture the events of operation chastise and the destruction of the mohne and eder dams. but what about the third dam, the sorpe? i was a bombing man and i can say i had the most comfortable place in the aircraft.
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idealfor a quick sleep if you had the chance. you didn't have the chance very often, of course. when johnnyjohnson crawled into this cramped bomb aimer‘s position at the start of the operation, he and his fellow crew members already knew they would face extra dangers. because their attack on the sorpe dam would require completely different tactics. my concentration was on the bomb site and the target. and my object was to get our bombs as close as i could to the target, and that was it. for the past three yearsjohnny has been piecing together that night with the help of a bristol film—maker. for weeks we had been practising for this operation and now this was it. the sorpe was very different from the mohne and the eder.
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their line of attack was along the top of the dam. 0n the night they had to work it out once they'd got there. i reckon it took us ten runs to attack the sorpe. because we didn't get it right, it wasn't exactly right, go on a dummy run, go round again. johnnyjohnson hopes his film will draw fresh audiences into the story of the dambusters and of the 52 crew members who didn't come home. really hit the people on the squadron. were you heroes? no, that's a word i object to. we were aircrew with a job to do. it'sjust a question of being the lucky one. johnyjohnson was talking to robert hall. stay with us for more memories
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from the last surviving british member of the dambusters squadron at ten to six. with just three days to go until the royal wedding, kensington palace has announced that princess charlotte will be among six bridesmaids at the marriage of her uncle prince harry to meghan markle on saturday. prince george will be one of four page boys. there's still no official word on whether meghan's father, thomas, will attend the wedding and walk his daughter down the aisle. 0ur correspondent angus crawford is in windsor. and let's talk on the children first. picture opportunity a half for many of the camera people covering it for the cameras and broadcasting? —— a picture opportunity and a half. and absolutely starring role for princess charlotte, who is just three, and prince george, who is just four. they will be very much to the forefront of this wedding party, the forefront of this wedding party,
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the bridesmaids and the page boys. there will be ten in total, and we know seven of harry's godchildren will be represented. and also meghan markle's goddaughter ‘s, and her sister. of course we cannot tell you what they will be wearing, because that would be to give a clue about the wedding dress itself. that will remaina the wedding dress itself. that will remain a very closely guarded secret, obviously, until saturday morning. probably the moment that meghan markle steps out of her transport before that service at 12 o'clock, in st george's chapel behind me. what about thomas markle? any word? there were reports he was undergoing treatment because of heart problems he had had in recent days? well, hard facts on this particular issue are a very difficult to find. we believe that several days ago he suffered a heart
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attack. we also believe that this morning, at about 7:30am pacific time, he was due to undergo some kind of cardiac procedure, potentially having a ste nt procedure, potentially having a stent fitted. we have to rely for this on the american celebrity gossip site tmz, to whom it appears he has chosen to speak in the past few days. one has the issue that if he is undergoing an operation today, it is highly unlikely that he would manage to make it to the chapel, saint georges, within the castle grounds, by midday on saturday. so then a big question is raised— who would walk meghan markle down the aisle? the assumption is that it might be her mother, and that would not be unprecedented, for a royal bride to be walked to the altar by a
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woman, a female, because queen victoria herself in the 19th century accompanied two of her own daughters. as i say, hard facts on this issue are difficult to find. we expect to learn more in the hours before us this evening. hard facts not so much, but still lots to talk about. angus crawford, thanks much. right, well, the rest of the world is doing so we are going to do it. yanny or laurel. an audio clip that's been shared millions of times on social media has people arguing over what they can actually hear in it. yanny or laurel. some people hear yanny. some people hear laurel. here it is. have to say i have listened twice, andi have to say i have listened twice, and i have heard both. what do you hear? recording plays
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i have heard both, so i am baffled. the experts say that it is to do with the frequencies. people who can hear high frequencies here one, while some can hear the other. that does not explain why some of us can hear both. you can find it online. i don't know if that means i have a split personality. what do you hear? we have seen some beautiful blue sky and sunshine, and i can show you a gorgeous photograph from scotland
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earlier this afternoon. doesn't that look stunning? will we have some of that this weekend? to the north, glorious clear blue sky and sunshine. temperatures are respected to fall away quite sharply. in fact, low single figures in sheltered areas, a touch of frost first thing tomorrow morning. but we will start ona tomorrow morning. but we will start on a cool side, but a good deal of dry and sunny weather. 0n the whole, we have more of a north—easterly breeze. we start off quite chilly, and that breeds more likely to bring some cloud on the east coast. the best of the sunshine further west. highs of 17. this is bbc news. the headlines: rail services on the
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east coast main line are being brought back under government control for the third time injust over a decade. it comes after heavy financial losses. "a story of recklessness and greed" — mps have blasted the bosses of the outsourcing company carillion for presiding over its collapse. north korea throws the summit between leader kim jong—un and donald trump into doubt — threatening to cancel if the us pressures pyongyang to give up its nuclear weapons. and princess charlotte will be a bridesmaid while prince george will be a pageboy at their uncle harry's wedding to meghan markle on saturday. it's still unclear if meghan's father will attend. let's have a look at the sporting headlines. now over to the bbc sport centre. good evening. england have their third youngest world cup squad for this summer's tournament in russia. it's gareth southgate's first squad for a major tournament and these are the 23 players who will be on that plane.
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a defensive—looking team, which includes 19—year—old trent alexander arnold of liverpool, as well as manchester city's fabian delph and gary cahill of chelsea. the midfield sees chelsea's ruben loftus cheek named after a season on loan at crystal palace and harry kane leads the line in the forwards with arsenal's danny welbeck also named. let's cross over to wembley stadiums now, where our sports correspondent joins us. what are the main headlines as you see it from the squad? we can't look any further than trent alexander arnold. 19 years old, his breakthrough season. impressive in the run up to the final. in the semifinals, home and away against roma and gareth southgate said that
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young players like him have got through on merit, not because of their age. if you look into the midfield, you have got ruben loftus—cheek. he played here at wembley for england in a friendly against germany in november and gained the man of the match award. he has been on loan from chelsea this season. apart from an injury of late, he has impressed over the course of the campaign. no other great surprises, fabian delph comes into the squad. he has them are played on the gareth southgate, he has been in the squad but has always been injured. no place forjoe hart. we knew that yesterday, the same with jack wilshire. adam lallana is the big casualty, the liverpool midfielder who has been plagued by injuries this season, but he does have a place as a stand—by. where do england go for here? they meet up on
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monday the those involved in the fa cup final will make up a week later. those involved in the champions league with liverpool after a further week. the squad depart for russia on the 12th ofjune and then the first match is against tunisia on the 18th ofjune. subsequent group matches against panama and belgium. this is an experimental squad, only five players survive from the previous squad. 11 of the 23 have fewer than 20 caps. no players in this squad have won a match at a world cup, so inexperienced but hope for gareth southgate's men. thank you. plenty of players have been giving their reactions to getting the call up on social media. firstly trent alexander arnold playing for england a few years ago, saying he's dreamt of going to to the tournament since he was a kid. marcus rashford with a message to his mum, who he's gonna take out to russia.
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his united team—mate ashley young saying this picture of him as a youngster may well have been a prediction. and kyle walker will be on the plane too, despite missing the call from the manager. eventually it was good news for him.. there is sad news for english football today, though. it's been announced ray wilson, a member of england's 1966 world cup—winning squad, has died at the age of 83. at 31, the left—back was the oldest player in sir alf ramsey's starting xi which overcame west germany in the final at wembley. he spent most of his club career with huddersfield town before moving to everton, where he won the 1966 fa cup. britain's simon yates has had another fantastic day
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at the giro d'italia, winning a second stage at this year's race. he attacked with 1,000 metres to go at the end of the hilly 156—kilometre 11th stage, and came home ahead of his nearest rivalfor the title, tom domoulin. yates extends his lead over the reigning champion to 47 seconds overall. that's all the sport for now. you can find more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. that's bbc.co.uk/sport. more now on north korea, which has threatened to cancel next month's summit with president trump if washington continues to insist it give up its nuclear weapons unilaterally. earlier, it pulled out of this week's talks with south korea in protest at the resumption ofjoint military exercises with the us. anthony ruggiero is a senior fellow at the washington—based
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conservative think—tank, the foundation for defense of democracies, and is a former north korea analyst for the us state department. hejoins me from washington dc. thank you for being with us on bbc news. let me ask you, are you surprised at this threat? no, i'm not surprised. this is from the well worn playbook that his father used with the united states. the problem is that the playbook ends with north korea agreeing to a nuclear deal with promises in the future, and then violating those very promises almost before the inky ‘s drive. so this is very troubling, even if it is not surprising. was the administration a little naive in being so keen and so quick in saying yes to a summit with kim jong—un without any kind of recondition ——
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preconditions? it is always on a delicate pudding. we need our international partners to go above the letter of the sanctions, to influence them. when given the offer of talks on denuclearisation, i think the administration had to say yes. the issueis administration had to say yes. the issue is less about what north korea said yesterday and more about that the two sides are far apart on denuclearisation. the us wants quick denuclearisation, north korea once it over several years. that has not been breached yet, and it is not clear if those two leaders in the room can make a change. it will hinge on the ground work that is done by both teams in the run—up. we had mike pompeo, the new secretary of state going out to pyongyang and bringing back those three americans who had been held there by north korea. that was clearly an important event, or to killing in terms of
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american public opinion. from what you are saying, they should be scepticism about weather this will achieve anything, considering how north korea has behaved in the past. the statement they came out with last week could have been bitten in the 1990s. north korea is only interested in phased denuclearisation which would likely ta ke denuclearisation which would likely take three or more years. probably after the trump residency, even if he is elected. the trump administration wants this done either by the end of the year or within a year. those two do not match up. maybe this is an opportunity to move out of this summit talk and move back to the maximum pressure campaign to remind him that he faces a choice, either face the maximum pressure or come and be serious about the nuclear rosa cea . you can imagine the temptation to
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get the deal, considering there are mid—term elections coming up. they could say they got the guys to promise things, even if they renege on them down the line. that is certainly something that the north koreans might have been interested in doing. that is what makes these state m e nts in doing. that is what makes these statements at this time so baffling on the north korea side. they could have been quiet and gone to the summitand have been quiet and gone to the summit and probably got some kind of framework, and then talks continue. so this could indicate that inside of north korea there is legitimate heartburn about quick denuclearisation, maybe even any denuclearisation, maybe even any denuclearisation which should give the trump administration pause with regard to the summit. the only alternative view is that kim jong—un is not his father or grandfather, his life experience has been different and maybe he genuinely wa nts to different and maybe he genuinely wants to do something different because he sees the consequences of
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not doing so, that the sanctions become so effective that the economy colla pses. become so effective that the economy collapses. that is possible in terms of the economy. he has a vulnerability back on he wants to grow the economy and the sanctions hurt him. like his father before him, he once a nuclear weapons he can deliver to the united states. thanks very much for being with us. the leader of unite, labour's largest and most powerful trade union affiliate, has condemned mps he called stale "corbyn haters", and urged local activists to sack them as candidates for parliament. he's been speaking to our deputy political editor, john pienaar. jeremy corbyn has had a lot of criticism, been under a lot of pressure from labour mps who consider themselves moderates. do these people still have a place in these people still have a place in the labour party? i suppose that is up to them. the reality is that my criticism of not
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moderates but right—wing labour mps, there is a small group of them, they wa nt to there is a small group of them, they want to criticise corbin on anything and everything. it is the first thing they do the morning when they wa ke thing they do the morning when they wake up. what can we have a go at jeremy about today? my view is that not only has that devalued them in terms of anything they raise, and they may have legitimate concerns, but it does no good to enhance labour's chances of winning the next election. it is a constant dirge.“ the local party decides to kick them out and choose another candidate, you would back that? i certainly wouldn't stop it. would you support it? i'm a great believer in accountability. a number of mps have become a little stale in terms of accountability. it's as though they have that job for life
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accountability. it's as though they have thatjob for life and they don't need to respond to anyone. people have to respond to their own party members. the local party members decide they don't represent them any more, they use the appropriate receipt is and they should leave. i won't cry over it. you would say good riddance? good riddance, in a sense. there was a lot of criticism overjeremy corbyn not tackling anti—semitism within the party. i think it is grossly unfair. he has opposed anti—semitism or his life. the reality is that he has shami chakra barti, or his life. the reality is that he has shami chakrabarti, who has a great history of opposing racism, he quickly asked her to produce a
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report, which she did. those recommendations should have been implemented immediately. they weren't, two years on. we have recently heard her saying that what has happened in the last few weeks is more than what has happened under the previous general secretary under the previous general secretary under the last two years. i believe it was deliberate by forces within labour party headquarters, who deliberately slowed down the process so that jeremy corbyn could be blamed.” think it was wrong, the accusations againstjeremy were wrong. think it was wrong, the accusations against jeremy were wrong. were they politically motivated? against jeremy were wrong. were they politically motivated ? was against jeremy were wrong. were they politically motivated? was it an excuse to attackjeremy corbyn? politically motivated? was it an excuse to attack jeremy corbyn? all kinds of issues and criticisms and indeed points of view can be put
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out. there is no doubt that there are individuals within the party structure who are opposed to him. they used the slowdown of investigating anti—semite comments asa investigating anti—semite comments as a way of embarrassing jeremy corbyn. len mccluskey talking to our deputy political editor. this is bbc news at 5pm. the headlines: the government brings rail services on the troubled east coast main line from london to edinburgh back under public control. a rotten corporate culture — mps deliver withering criticism of the collapsed construction giant carillion. donald trump says he doesn't know if his planned summit with kim jong—un will go ahead after north korea threatens to pull out. an update on the market numbers for you — here's how london's and frankfurt ended the day. and, in the united states, this is how the dow and the nasdaq are getting on. an army fitness instructor accused
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of trying to kill his wife by sabotaging her parachute has denied tampering with it. emile cilliers told winchester crown court that he took the parachute into a toilet at the airbase in wiltshire the day before victoria cilliers made herjump, but said he didn't sabotage it. mrs cilliers suffered multiple injuries when her parachute failed to open properly in april 2015. emile cilliers today also denied tampering with a gas fixture duncan kennedy reports from winchester crown court. he spent the whole day in the witness box, answering questions about the parachute incident and the apparent tampering of a gas fixture at their home. two tends to kill his wife. they had been married forfour yea rs before wife. they had been married forfour years before she made the jump from 4000 feet. she found that her
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parachute would not open. she suffered a number of serious injuries. thejury have suffered a number of serious injuries. the jury have already seen this prosecution demonstration of what they claim happened. they say he took his daughter into this toilet cubicle at the base the day before victoria's jump. they claimed that he used a visit to remove two nylon ties from her reserve chute. in order to sabotage it. he was questioned about that film. his defence barrister asked him, was their space inside that toilet cubicle to carry out the sabotage? he replied, i doubt it. in court, his defence barrister asked about the visit to the toilet and the nylon cords. she asked, did you do anything to the break whilst in the lavatory. he replied no. did you on
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hook any cords on that day? he replied no. he was also asked about this gas pipe at his home. the prosecution claim he tampered with the fixture the week before the parachute incident in a separate attempt to kill victoria. his defence barrister asked him about that, saying, "did you harbour any which to harm victoria?" he said, no, never. did you do anything to intentionally harm anyone? no, i did not, he replied. he denies two counts of attempted murder and is due back in the witness box tomorrow. modern life can make it difficult to get a proper night's sleep, but disruption to the body's internal clock could be linked to an increased risk of mood disorders. researchers have urged people to become more attuned to the body's natural rhythm, and to resist reaching for the mobile phone at night.
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here's our health correspondent, james gallagher. inside every one of us is a biological clock keeping time. it drives huge changes in the way our body works. it is why you want to sleep at night and be active during the day. moods, strength, hormone levels, body temperature, metabolism and even the risk of a heart attack all fluctuate in a daily rhythm. but we are getting very good at disrupting our body clocks. many of us are guilty of being up late at night checking our phones? thers's always something else to tweet, an article to read, another message to send. we know that messing with our body clocks is bad for our health. ask someone how they feel after a night shift or when they are jet lagged. but now there are concerns it could also be bad for our mental health. the study looked at 91,000 people, it showed that those with disrupted body clocks were more likely to have
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depression and bipolar disorder, and they were more lonely and less happy. i think the big concern is these devices that people use during the night time have blue light exposure which can affect your sleep rhythm. that needs more research but i think people should be vigilant and i think a good general piece of advice would be for people to turn off their mobile phones in the evening and not look at them until the morning. but for many of us it seems that finding time to get enough sleep is a challenge. stressed and just can't sleep early. i think your body becomes acclimatised, like having a child for the first time, you get no sleep and you get used to having no sleep. i stay up too late, i watch box sets, and can't stop watching the next episode. this study on our bodies' time piece is not perfect, it cannot say for certain that disrupting our natural sleeping pattern is damaging our mental health.
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but the findings do add to a growing recognition of the importance of the body clock on both our health and well—being. as we've been hearing, it's 75 years ago today since 617 squadron, with its lancaster bombers, took off to attack three key dams in germany's ruhr valley. loaded with revolutionary bouncing bombs, the dangerous mission was designed to target and disable hitler's industrial heartland. many of us know the story through the 1955 film, which will be reshown tomorrow at london's albert hall. squadron leaderjohnyjohnson is the last surviving british member of the dambusters squadron. he spoke to robert hall about his memories of the operation, and his efforts to pass them on to future generations. i was the bombing man. and i consider i had the most comfortable place in the aircraft. two body—length cushions to lie on, and a shoulder rest ahead. idealfor a quick sleep if you had the chance. you didn't have the chance very often, of course.
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and then we were told... joe mccarthy, my skipper, was asked by wing commander gibson, would he join this special squadron that he was forming for one special trip? we were coming up to the end of our first tour on that occasion, and sojoe asked the crew and we said, yes, we'll go with him. it was going to be a low—level business. now, we'd been used to flying 10,000,12,00015,000, if you were lucky maybe occasionally 20,000 feet. in the dark, because you stayed out of the moon, flying in those days. and seeing nothing until you got the target area, and you saw all the guns that you've got to go through before you came back home. all the anti—aircraft fire bursting around about. i found that that didn't worry me at all. my concentration was on
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the bomb sight and the target, and my object was to get our bombs as close as i could to the target, and that was it. giving instructions to the pilot to line the aircraft up correctly. apart from that, i'd no idea what was going on outside, no idea at all. that's the job i was there for, and my concentration was entirely on that. and then the bomb was gone, there was straight and level flight for a while, until a camera was operated and took a picture of where your bomb was dropped. so no point in saying you hit the target when you lobbed it out somewhere in the middle distance. but that was basically my operation. 0n the dams raid, 19 aircraft took off. three returned for various reasons.
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of the 16 that went on, only eight came back. we lost eight aircraft. three aircrew have managed to bail out and were taken prisoner. but we lost the aircraft and 53 aircrew. a tremendous loss for one squadron, for one night's operation. and it really hit the people on the squadron, all the ground crew and aircrew. in fact, in the sergeants' mess, some of them were in tears. they were told, you'd better go to bed, come back in the morning, maybe you'll feel a little better then. i was in the sergeants'
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mess, i didn't drink. but sitting there and seeing all those empty chairs was a reminder of how many people we'd lost that night. that was squadron leader johnyjohnson speaking on the 75th anniversary of the dambusters raid. time for a look at the weather with louise lear. hello again. good afternoon. it has been an afternoon of contrast across the country. for some of us, rather cloudy, dre and breezy, u nfortu nately. let's cloudy, dre and breezy, unfortunately. let's look at the map. hardly a cloud in the sky to the north and west. but they were the north and west. but they were the front still continues to drift south and east, it has brought quite
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a lot of cloud and it has been a cool field for the day. yesterday, mid 20s in places. some places today struggling to get about 15 or 16. that cloud and the rain continues to drift southwards. it will clear overnight and, with clearer skies and this cooler northerly flow continuing to descend across the country, do expected chilly start to thursday morning. how chilly? those are figures in the far north and west and in the countryside it is worth bearing in mind if you are a gardener or grower, you could see a light frost first thing. pretty unusualfor light frost first thing. pretty unusual for the light frost first thing. pretty unusualfor the middle light frost first thing. pretty unusual for the middle of may. light frost first thing. pretty unusualfor the middle of may. a chilly start, but a good deal of dry weather in the story throughout the whole thursday. a north—easterly breeze driving in more cloud and a cooler feel yet again across those east coast. head further inland, more sunshine coming through, 17 or 18 degrees. some differences for friday, we lose the northerly
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breeze. some other front wishes in from the atlantic, a weak affair. certainly quite a lot of cloud generally across scotland and northern ireland. temperatures up to around 19 degrees. moving into the weekend, the high pressure stays with us and that will block these frontal systems from making too much ofan frontal systems from making too much of an impression, perhaps arriving during sunday. for the royal wedding, there will be little change. temperatures as high as 20 or 21 degrees. if you have plans across the country on saturday, you should not be too disappointed with the forecast was up some cloud to the forecast was up some cloud to the north and west but staying dry. not for long, this arise during sunday, but chiefly to the north and west. some rain pushing into northern ireland during sunday and monday. elsewhere, dry, warm and reasonably sunny. italia.
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the government takes the east coast rail line between london and edinburgh back into temporary state control. it comes after the franchise owners stagecoach and virgin ran up losses of almost £200 million. the route has its challenges, but it is not a failing railway. however, as i explained in february, mr speaker, stagecoach and virgin trains got their bid wrong and they are now paying the price. we'll be asking where this leaves the debate about who should run britain's railways. also tonight: a rotten corporate culture — mps deliver withering criticism of the collapsed construction firm carillion. first north korea, now the us throw doubt on the nuclear summit next month — president trump says "we'll have to see". we look at why criminal charges in england and wales have gone down while crime has gone up.
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